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01:37 hayley           when a bug report says I am not authorised to access it, I know it's a security patch, but do I need to be able to get to it as rmaint to update its status etc. ?
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02:26 koha-jenkins     Yippee, build fixed!
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07:05 Null404          hello everyone
07:05 Null404          is there any way to edit multiple records by author of the book ?
07:06 Null404          I want to update date of birth of specific author
07:07 Null404          because some records have wrong date of birth
07:09 Null404          and I don't want do manual edit over 60+ records
07:26 davidnind        Null404: Have a look at Tools > Batch item modification and Batch record modification (https://koha-community.org/manual/19.11/en/html/tools.html#batch-record-modification)
07:28 Null404          but I don't have set any lists or templates
07:32 reiveune         hello
07:33 davidnind        Null404: I only know you can, but I have not done it in real life - maybe a bit later someone who has done it can help (or post a message to the mailing list)
07:35 Null404          okay, thanks for help @davidnind
07:43 davidnind        Null404: Here is a tutorial by the wonderful ByWaters staff https://bywatersolutions.com/education/monday-minutes-marc-modification-templates
07:44 Null404          okay, i take a look of this
07:44 davidnind        Null404: You could also export the records, modify using MarcEdit, and reimport - I've not used MarcEdit much, so you will have to figure out how to do that
07:45 Null404          I've not used MarcEdit too
07:46 hagud            I know a little marcedit, what do you want to do?
07:53 Null404          @hagud I want to update date of birth of specific author because some records have wrong date of birth (1927, not 1929) and I don't want do manual edit over 60+ records
07:53 huginn           Null404: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready
07:53 wahanui          i already had it that way, huginn.
08:00 alex_a           Bonjour
08:00 wahanui          hi, alex_a
08:06 Joubu            Null404: write a report, like: select biblionumber from biblio where author="your author";
08:07 Joubu            execute it and you will see a "edit biblio in a batch" (or similar) button at the top of the result table
08:08 Null404          okay I got it
08:16 Null404          okay, I got "Batch record modification" by specific numbers and I cannon find where to modify MARC inside these records
08:17 Null404          I have only: "Modify record using the following template: F to i"
08:18 paxed            you need to create a new template, tools -> marc modification templates  (IIRC)
08:26 Null404          It really worked ! Thank You for help! :)
08:31 ashimema[m]      Morning #koha
08:35 ashimema[m]      messages?
08:35 wahanui          messages are coming through out of order again today
08:35 ashimema[m]      huggin?
08:41 huginn           News from kohagit: Bug 15352: (RM follow-up) Add missing filters <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e6550fd751dc7e73c8e6bfd83043bfde23f4d634>
08:44 Null404          I have a quick question: If I have KOHA 17.11 and should I update to 18.11 then to 19.11 or straight from 17.11 to 19.11 ?
08:47 ashimema[m]      Well.. the upgrade process will walk through all updates in order anyway.. so you can just straight to 19.11 if you want.  There are some fairly big DB updates between those versions though so it's mostly about how long it takes.
08:48 Null404          version 19.11 is stable and safe to use in library, right ?
08:49 ashimema[m]      should be.. the .04 update to it is just around the corner (22nd Feb).. I tend to recommend waiting for about that release in a cycle
08:52 Null404          okay
08:53 huginn           News from kohagit: Bug 15352: Do not display the link if item.uri does not exist <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=0c2d158497b379058db62cccca9d7131377a1d4a>
09:02 Null404          @ashimema[m] what should I do first update Ubuntu, then Koha or first update Koha, then Ubuntu ?
09:02 huginn           Null404: I suck
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09:37 ashimema[m]      oh dear..
09:38 ashimema[m]      did I break jenkins
09:39 Joubu            yes :)
09:39 Joubu            BREAK ALL THE THINGS!
09:39 Joubu            or FIX, can't remember
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10:12 Joubu            @later tell khall Hi Kyle, could you have a look at bug 23727? I do not know how to fix it correctly.
10:12 huginn           Joubu: The operation succeeded.
10:13 magnuse          bug 23727
10:13 huginn           Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=23727 critical, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Editing course reserve items is broken
10:13 Joubu            @later tell kidclamp Hi Nick, could you add you stamp to bug 24532? I did not follow the different patches to be confident enough with the changes.
10:13 huginn           Joubu: The operation succeeded.
10:27 kohaputti        Joubu, reading bug 24506 I assume support with Zebra using 'or' as or query, but with ES only 'OR' is supported as or query. This most likely applies to any advanced catalogue searches the user might do using or or and keywords
10:27 huginn           Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=24506 major, P5 - low, ---, andreas.jonsson, Signed Off , Multibranch limit does not work with ElasticSearch
10:27 kohaputti        * I assume we support
10:28 kohaputti        we probably should do something about it other than just fix the internal uses of OR, because the users doing the search might still use lower case. Or, if we want to support only upper case OR then we probably should deprecate lower case or in the zebra searches
10:31 Joubu            kohaputti: I agree, but that is a simple patch to fix a feature that is broken with ES. That was enough for me to let it go. We should open a bug report to fix it in the module
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11:00 huginn           News from kohagit: Bug 15352: (RM follow-up) Add missing filters <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=8d417d4a6fccf5d871a389ce13cd1d283ce1deee>
11:07 cait             only 83 bugzilla updates? you can DO MORE! :)
11:09 Joubu            @later tell aleisha Hi Aleisha, could you have a look at Martin's patches on bug 24474. Do they fix the issues you reported?
11:09 huginn           Joubu: The operation succeeded.
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11:44 huginn           News from kohagit: Bug 21156: (RM follow-up) Correction to added filters <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=97b84b631f13b6b4a024b39cf928c11ae3dc6b88>
11:45 ashimema[m]      jajm around?
11:46 jajm             ashimema[m], yes
11:47 ashimema[m]      bug 21156
11:47 wahanui          bug 21156 is not pushed yet, so should not work here?
11:47 huginn           Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=21156 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Pushed to master , Internationalization: plural forms, context, and more for JS files
11:47 ashimema[m]      so.. i realise that locale_data.js gets created by the translation tools when installed a translated language right?
11:47 jajm             ashimema[m], yes
11:47 ashimema[m]      do we need/wan't a default one for the /en set
11:48 jajm             it shouldn't be a problem with bug 24661
11:48 huginn           Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=24661 normal, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Needs Signoff , Inclusion of locale-related javascript files is broken
11:49 ashimema[m]      ooh..
11:49 ashimema[m]      I'd not seen that one.
11:49 ashimema[m]      excellent
11:49 wahanui          darn tootin' it is.
11:49 ashimema[m]      you've also updated it to Asset in that one... that was going to be my next question..
11:49 ashimema[m]      I'll fast QA that one now
11:49 ashimema[m]      thanks
11:50 jajm             :)
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11:52 ashimema[m]      do we actually need/want the other two assets in the /en template ?
11:53 ashimema[m]      no harm I suppose anyways
11:55 koha-jenkins     Yippee, build fixed!
11:55 wahanui          Congratulations!
11:55 koha-jenkins     Project Koha_Master_D9_MDB_Latest build #126: FIXED in 51 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9_MDB_Latest/126/
11:58 huginn           News from kohagit: Bug 24661: Fix inclusion of locale-related javascript files <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=d2e60c553ba42e61c8ad321c3625e6d291e9c13d>
11:59 koha-jenkins     Yippee, build fixed!
11:59 wahanui          Congratulations!
11:59 koha-jenkins     Project Koha_Master_D9_My8 build #151: FIXED in 56 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9_My8/151/
12:04 jajm             ashimema[m], yes we want them for __* functions
12:05 ashimema[m]      yeah.. I thought that after i said it..
12:05 ashimema[m]      ditzy moment ;)
12:08 huginn           News from kohagit: Bug 24531: Fix OAI-PMH sets for records with repeated fields <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=d1a0921fd106bc910fff2fed74344bbad4d33f55>
12:08 huginn           News from kohagit: Bug 24531: Test for OAI-PMH sets and repeated fields <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=3a49e02a5d184a7be800df3e6d0037584fdf3251>
12:08 huginn           News from kohagit: Bug 22898: Fix failure since bug 19618 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=7c9680749fa3a56ee65e823b318b22876a95edce>
12:08 huginn           News from kohagit: Bug 22898: Since bug 23957, submit element is now a button (no longer input) <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=25aad587d2b8789f171e3f3093362d1856f388ea>
12:08 huginn           News from kohagit: Bug 22898: Add selenium tests placing holds (staff) <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=f1378a537e73c05783082725f203b4cb1eeec596>
12:29 koha-jenkins     Yippee, build fixed!
12:29 wahanui          Congratulations!
12:29 koha-jenkins     Project Koha_Master_D9 build #1142: FIXED in 38 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9/1142/
12:33 oleonard         Hi all, happy GBSD
12:34 ashimema[m]      Hi oleonard
12:34 wahanui          hi oleopard
12:37 koha-jenkins     Project Koha_Master_D8 build #685: STILL UNSTABLE in 38 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D8/685/
12:45 koha-jenkins     Yippee, build fixed!
12:45 wahanui          Congratulations!
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13:01 Joubu            Did you know that GBSD also means "The Great British Skinny Dip"? "The Great British Skinny Dip is a project run by British Naturism. Every year this great event provides lots of opportunities for people to try costume-free swimming across many varied locations throughout the UK."
13:02 oleonard         Also "Ground Based Strategic Deterrent," so not quite as good company as the naturists
13:04 ashimema[m]      lol
13:04 oleonard         And "Gresham-Barlow School District" which is great, because all those Oregon parents searching for the #GBSD hashtag will get some good skinny-dipping content
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13:08 magnuse          lulz
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13:33 oleonard         jajm: Have you ever encountered this error before?
13:33 oleonard         /usr/bin/msgmerge: error while opening "/home/vagrant/kohaclone/misc/translator/po/fr-FR-messages-js.po" for reading: No such file or directory
13:33 * oleonard       testing Bug 24662
13:33 huginn           Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=24662 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Needs Signoff , Remove global variables MSG_* from datatables.inc
13:34 jajm             oleonard, yes, juste five minutes ago :) bgkriegel mentioned it on that same bug
13:35 oleonard         Oh thanks I totally missed that part of his comment
13:38 jajm             oleonard, you can `./translate install LANG` first, it will create the missing file
13:38 koha-jenkins     Project Koha_Master_D8 build #686: STILL UNSTABLE in 30 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D8/686/
13:44 oleonard         jajm: Otherwise it tests really well
13:44 oleonard         jajm++
13:46 jajm             great :)
13:47 ere              ashimema[m]: Just a quick followup on my slow api startup stuff from yesterday: the database call was slow because it initialized DBIx, which again is slower than I like. OpenAPI JSON validation is, however, the real culprit, and I think we could speed it up when plugins are present by building the full spec and only validate it once, then fall back to one-by-one if it fails. Anyway, too much to change for now...
13:53 oleonard         Can't locate object method "phases" via package "CPAN::Meta::Prereqs"
13:53 caroline_catlady good morning!
13:54 oleonard         Hi caroline_catlady
13:55 Joubu            oleonard: install libmodule-cpanfile-perl
13:56 oleonard         Joubu: "libmodule-cpanfile-perl is already the newest version (1.1002-1)."
13:57 ashimema[m]      Sounds interesting ere
14:00 Joubu            oleonard: jessie?
14:00 wahanui          i think jessie is packaged with 5.20.2
14:00 oleonard         stretch
14:01 ashimema[m]      For now but perhaps grab it from cpan
14:01 ashimema[m]      Need the talk to mtj.. I think it shouldnt need packaging, but maybe I missed something
14:01 Joubu            oleonard: sorry, it's libcpan-meta-perl
14:03 cait             hi all
14:03 cait             where is the GBSD group please? :)
14:03 oleonard         Thanks Joubu!
14:04 oleonard         cait: group?
14:04 oleonard         cait: The GBSD group is skinny-dipping in a British lake somewhere, it turns out
14:04 Joubu            all naked undef the waterfall
14:05 Joubu            hah!
14:05 ashimema[m]      lol
14:07 cait             oh...um.
14:08 cait             i just wanted to join... but not so sure now :)
14:08 oleonard         It's okay, technically this channel has always been clothing-optional ;)
14:09 cait             interesting...
14:09 cait             oh well..
14:10 oleonard         cait: But seriously, were you expecting a group somewhere other than here?
14:10 cait             nope, it was just my way of saying, 'got rid of the work stuff, where are my gbsd people?' :)
14:10 oleonard         HERE!
14:10 ashimema[m]      hello
14:11 cait             cool! where do i start?
14:11 cait             something nice and easy for warm up?
14:11 * ashimema[m]    is rebasing bug 11983
14:11 huginn           Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11983 normal, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, In Discussion , Code to select patrons to purge needs to be centralized (use of filter_by)
14:11 ashimema[m]      nice to have you back cait
14:11 oleonard         Is there a debian package for MARC::Record::MiJ?
14:11 cait             MiJ?
14:11 wahanui          i heard MiJ was in debian, we just don't pull it (yet, eyes on mirko)
14:11 cait             lol
14:12 ashimema[m]      pass
14:12 oleonard         :/
14:12 cait             wahanui: sounded positive
14:12 wahanui          cait: what?
14:12 oleonard         Installer says it's required...
14:12 ashimema[m]      https://manpages.debian.org/testing/libmarc-file-mij-perl/MARC::Record::MiJ.3pm.en.html
14:12 ashimema[m]      Looks like it oleonard
14:12 cait             https://manpages.debian.org/jessie/libmarc-file-mij-perl/MARC::Record::MiJ.3pm.en.html
14:13 cait             ah, you beat me
14:13 cait             :)
14:13 cait             jinx
14:13 ashimema[m]      https://packages.debian.org/jessie/libmarc-file-mij-perl
14:13 ashimema[m]      haha.. yup
14:13 ashimema[m]      so.. prehaps it's not listed in our control file?
14:13 oleonard         *sigh* Sometimes I guess the wrong name
14:14 ashimema[m]      confused oleonard..
14:14 ashimema[m]      what's the actual problem..
14:14 ashimema[m]      it's listed in the debian/control file so should be getting installed I think?
14:14 cait             hm hang up on git pull?
14:15 oleonard         Running the web installer, not a new installation
14:15 ashimema[m]      how do you install your dependancies oleonard.. I tend to use `apt install koha-perldeps`
14:15 ashimema[m]      using the community packages for
14:16 oleonard         ashimema[m]: I wait until Koha tells me something is missing and then I try to guess the package based on the error message :D
14:16 cait             +1
14:16 cait             ... and of course my devbox is acting weird... today of all days
14:17 Joubu            I have to end my day a bit early today. Happy end of GBSD #koha :)
14:17 cait             bye Joubu
14:18 ashimema[m]      lol
14:19 koha-jenkins     Project Koha_Master_U18 build #612: UNSTABLE in 47 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U18/612/
14:19 oleonard         Hi wizzyrea
14:21 cait             ashimema[m]: could i interest you in fast an easy? bug 17611
14:21 huginn           Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17611 trivial, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Signed Off , Searching for orders uses misleading column name "Pending order"
14:21 ashimema[m]      sure
14:22 ashimema[m]      fancy taking a bash at but 22359 cait.. i've been waiting for your feedback on that one for ages :(
14:23 cait             bug 22359
14:23 huginn           Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=22359 normal, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Signed Off , Improve usability of 'change calculation' (bug 11373)
14:23 cait             oh
14:24 cait             i'll try, but maybe a little later
14:24 cait             doing some warm-up first
14:24 ashimema[m]      okies
14:24 cait             n't locate object method "phases" via package "CPAN::Meta::Prereqs" at /home/vagrant/kohaclone/C4/Installer/PerlModules.pm line 55
14:24 cait             that a new one?
14:24 oleonard         I was just asking about that cait
14:25 cait             aha
14:25 oleonard         libcpan-meta-perl
14:25 ashimema[m]      libcpan-meta-perl
14:25 ashimema[m]      lol
14:25 oleonard         jinx
14:25 ashimema[m]      it's listed in the packages and dependancies..
14:25 cait             i tihnk something is wrong
14:25 cait             well maybe
14:25 ashimema[m]      but mirko's nightly build bot isn't currently building packages
14:25 cait             usually the installer should point out missing packages
14:26 ashimema[m]      so it won't have got pulled yet.
14:26 cait             but in this case... the installer explodes
14:26 ashimema[m]      it's required for the installer to piont out missing dependancies ;)
14:26 cait             I was afraid you'd say that
14:26 cait             maybe a nicer error would be something ot cosider :)
14:27 ashimema[m]      report it.. I didn't think of it when i QA'd that one.. never had the issue
14:27 cait             Cache::Memcached::Fast::Safe
14:27 ashimema[m]      but yes.. it would be nicer to report something nicer
14:27 cait             we do plan to fix htat... right? that it will be installed by default?
14:29 cait             does someone have the debian package name for me maybe?
14:29 oleonard         libcache-memcached-fast-safe-perl
14:30 cait             hm thought that was what i tried sec
14:30 ashimema[m]      that's going to be marked as required.. I think Joubu did a bug for it..
14:30 cait             nope
14:30 cait             yes it is requierd
14:30 ashimema[m]      can't remember the number off the top of my head
14:30 cait             which means i need it to get out of hte web installer
14:30 cait             E: Unable to locate package libcache-memcached-fast-safe-perl
14:30 ashimema[m]      again.. likely the lack of Mirko's build bot
14:31 ashimema[m]      I think mtj has laready packaged it but not released untill release
14:31 ashimema[m]      use cpanm for now cait
14:31 cait             one of his bots produced a file with lots of EEK - i commented on te bug
14:33 cait             Building and testing Cache-Memcached-Fast-Safe-0.06 ... OK
14:33 cait             Successfully installed Cache-Memcached-Fast-Safe-0.06
14:33 cait             6 distributions installed
14:33 cait             still no luck
14:33 cait             i did a restart all
14:33 cait             and web installer still claims i don't meet requirements
14:33 oleonard         cait: What does it say is missing?
14:33 cait             sitll the memcached one
14:34 cait             but at the same time the system says it's installed that version :(
14:34 ashimema[m]      hmm
14:34 ashimema[m]      did you install it at system or user level?
14:34 ashimema[m]      i.e. sudo?
14:35 cait             reinstalling
14:35 cait             i didn't even know these were a thing
14:37 ashimema[m]      very recent pushes
14:37 ashimema[m]      like.. yesterday for the cpanfile one
14:37 cait             ok... my memcached is dead
14:37 cait             and now i can't add sql reports for my test
14:38 ashimema[m]      why is memcached dead?
14:38 cait             because it won't work with en empty cache value... which cannot be set when cache is off
14:38 cait             i dunno
14:38 cait             ok it#s alive again
14:39 cait             .. an di think i have already seen a bug for can't save report without memcached somewhere
14:41 cait             hi khall!
14:41 wahanui          hmmm... hi khall is my consciousness present in this realm?
14:42 khall            hi cait!
14:47 cait             khall: not sure i understood your comment on the course reserves bug
14:47 cait             the first idea of always editing the course item from there made sense to me -
14:48 khall            cait simply put, in master, editing a course item just calls ModItem!
14:48 cait             yep i noticed
14:49 cait             scary stuff
14:49 cait             but what did you mean would make it less flexible?
14:50 cait             sec, this part here: I'm wondering if we should have the course items editor *only* update the course items table and *never* the items table. That would also mean disabling the ability to edit course items on active course reserve. This could make the system more understandable, though less flexible.
14:55 oleonard         jajm: Is there something on the wiki about new guidelines for translatable strings in JavaScript?
14:56 jajm             oleonard, no, i was just about to write something about that in bug 24662, JS5 rule should probably be removed/changed
14:56 huginn           Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=24662 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Needs Signoff , Remove global variables MSG_* from datatables.inc
14:57 oleonard         It's a different function in JS, correct? __() instead of _() ?
14:57 jajm             yes (__ and all its companions __n, __x, ...)
14:58 cait             I'd love to have some docs for dummies about those with examples
15:02 ashimema[m]      damn is annoying having to write out ever single field name in a group by :(
15:04 caroline_catlady in which case would you need to group by everything?
15:05 cait             mysql strict stuff
15:07 ashimema[m]      any time you join a table and want to group down to one table's id's
15:07 ashimema[m]      for example
15:07 ashimema[m]      borrowers by last issue data
15:07 ashimema[m]      * borrowers by last issue date
15:07 ashimema[m]      I only want one row for a borrower but might be more than one issue since date x in the join
15:08 ashimema[m]      before the sql strict crap a group_by me.borrowernumber was enough..
15:08 ashimema[m]      with it.. we need group_by me.field for every field in the borrowers table..
15:09 caroline_catlady good to know
15:11 cait             ashimema[m]: speakign of the group by - could you take  a quick look at bug 24488 if i made sense there? it#s just about that
15:11 huginn           Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=24488 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, aleisha, Needs Signoff , Holds to Pull sometimes shows the wrong 'first patron' details
15:11 ashimema[m]      sure
15:21 cait             @excuse
15:21 huginn           cait: I suck
15:22 ashimema[m]      hope I've clarified it, not made it worse cait
15:22 cait             all we can do is try :)
15:22 cait             glad I was not totally wrong too
15:23 ashimema[m]      yikes.. I don't think she's going to like it.. now I've looked at the code..
15:23 ashimema[m]      adding all those field aint half going to be messy
15:23 ashimema[m]      mind you.. I've just done it in a clever way elsewhere.. maybe I'll give her a tip
15:25 ashimema[m]      also scares me she's done allot to change a controller and there are zero tests
15:26 cait             yeah
15:40 ashimema[m]      oh dear..
15:40 ashimema[m]      I'm not finding mysql bugs in that strict behaviour
15:40 ashimema[m]      poo
15:48 cait             hm?
15:48 ashimema[m]      mysql can't do 'having' queries with that mode in 5.5 and 5.6
15:48 ashimema[m]      fixed in 5.7
15:49 ashimema[m]      but we currently still claim to support 5.5 and 5.6 and support all strict modes too
15:49 cait             oops
15:49 ashimema[m]      indeed
15:49 cait             so defaut mysql disables use of having?
15:49 ashimema[m]      I'm currently trying to figure out how to write the query in a completely different way
15:49 cait             having late lunhc/early dinner, then back on bugs
15:50 ashimema[m]      yup
15:50 ashimema[m]      well.. having with a join
15:50 ashimema[m]      and a group by
15:50 ashimema[m]      but that's actually a pretty common combination
15:50 ashimema[m]      no matter
15:51 cait             group by an dhaving always go together i think?
15:52 ashimema[m]      mm
15:52 ashimema[m]      https://bugs.mysql.com/bug.php?id=80455
15:52 ashimema[m]      and now I remember why it is a having I was using in the first place!
15:52 ashimema[m]      strict modes royally screws the pooch in this case
15:53 ashimema[m]      think the only way out of this might be a subselect
16:01 reiveune         bye
16:05 ashimema[m]      tests++
16:36 wizzyrea         hi
16:36 wahanui          bidet, wizzyrea
16:37 lisettelatah     hi wizzyrea
17:05 cait             lisettelatah: GBSD'ing? :)
17:06 lisettelatah     cait,yes! I'm rebuilding my devbox again and commenting on bugs while it builds.
17:06 ashimema[m]      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0PF1V7c4hU for those not aware
17:06 ashimema[m]      it's nice to see your not on your own in GBSD
17:06 cait             awesome :)
17:06 cait             lisettelatah++ :)
17:10 cait             bywater++
17:10 * ashimema[m]    is loving watching his queue fill up this afternoon
17:10 cait             not sure if can say the same about my queue heh
17:10 cait             ... well probably
17:11 cait             shoutout to Owen on the youtube thing :)
17:12 cait             well deserved
17:21 ere              ashimema[m]: Yeah, I'll see if I can manage to find a moment to try improving the loading of plugins. I stumbled on the fact that Koha::Plugins->new()->GetPlugins cannot be called twice or it will blow up..
17:23 ashimema[m]      interesting
17:26 cait             kidclamp++
17:28 ashimema[m]      khall++
17:37 ashimema[m]      bbiab.. dinner time :)
17:46 oleonard         Bug 22880 signed off!! Thank you lisettelatah!!
17:46 huginn           Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=22880 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Signed Off , Convert opacheader system preference to news block
17:46 cait             woohoo
17:46 cait             lisettelatah++
17:51 lisettelatah     I have to go up on the desk for an hour, but I'll try and sign off some more after that.
17:56 cait             i might get actually something done now that they stopped... but still sad :)
18:06 ashimema[m]      Haha
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18:43 ashimema[m]      Hmm.. send I'm not installing the right dependency on D8 yet
18:43 ashimema[m]      Sure I feed that earlier this week
18:43 koha-jenkins     Yippee, build fixed!
18:43 wahanui          Congratulations!
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18:52 lisettelatah     If a test plan has steps like "prove -v t/db_dependent/Circulation.t" how should I test that in my devbox?
18:53 ashimema[m]      Kohadevbox?
18:54 ashimema[m]      Inside kohaclone, literally just run the command you showed
18:54 ashimema[m]      It'll output a bunch of results
18:54 oleonard         Have to do kshell first
18:55 lisettelatah     perfect, thanks.
18:56 lisettelatah     I turns out the patch didn't apply properly for that bug, but I'm sure I'll find another.
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19:06 lisettelatah     When I was setting up my devbox this morning, I told it to import sample items on the web installer but I don't have any items now. Is there a way I can tell it to import that sample data now?
19:12 oleonard         lisettelatah: The nuclear option would be to drop the database, recreate it, and re-run the web installer
19:12 cait             hm but we don't have items
19:12 cait             i mean in the web installer - or is devbox hacked?
19:13 cait             is there an equivalent to reset_all?
19:13 cait             oh
19:13 cait             lisettelatah: devbox or docker?
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19:15 lisettelatah     devbox
19:16 lisettelatah     In the past when I've run the devbox webinstaller it populated with some items and bib records.
19:16 lisettelatah     Or I'm remember incorrectly because I've done so much on the sandboxes
19:17 cait             i think the web installer doesn't have sample records/items
19:17 cait             but you can run reset_all - it will populate the db with the sample data from the web installer and some more
19:17 * oleonard       always forgets about reset_all
19:17 koha-jenkins     Yippee, build fixed!
19:17 wahanui          Congratulations!
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19:18 lisettelatah     cait! Thanks, I'll try that. It would be very helpful to have some pre-populated items.
19:18 cait             it is
19:18 cait             Joubu added that - Joubu++
19:19 lisettelatah     Also, is there a way to set a lost on date in the past? The bug I'm testing needs to have a book that has been lost for at least a couple of days. I can lose a book and then test next week if I need to, but if I could sign off today that'd be great.
19:19 cait             hmm
19:19 cait             i don't hink there is a way outside of sql
19:20 cait             you could try to map it to an uppercase subfield code... and try to edit in the item edior... but never tried that
19:20 cait             i coul dhelp with the sql bit if you want
19:24 lisettelatah     Doesn't look like it'll map.
19:24 lisettelatah     cait, thanks, I think I'll just wait till next week and try testing something else.
19:25 cait             np
19:25 cait             lots to pick still :)
19:28 lisettelatah     Bug 24609, if I run the prove and get back Result: Pass does that mean it worked? I haven't tested any API bugs before.
19:28 huginn           Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=24609 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, andrew.isherwood, Needs Signoff , Add routes for getting and setting checkout due date
19:31 davidnind        Yep! (It's all a bit of black box to me, but if it is all green and no failed tests, then it is all good to sign-off)
19:34 lisettelatah     davidnind ++
19:34 lisettelatah     oleonard++
19:34 lisettelatah     cait++
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19:58 oleonard         That's it for me folks. I hope there are still a few out there squashing for a while longer
19:58 cait             :)
20:01 lisettelatah     I'm here 2 more hours and am mostly going to be squashing for that time :)
20:01 cait             still around too
20:01 ashimema[m]      You guys are awesome
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20:50 cait             Circulation and fine rules is really slow now with the changes :(
20:51 cait             takes a really long time to save an edit
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20:55 cait             hm Too many holds:   koha  can only place a maximum of Unlimited total holds.
20:55 cait             there is something going wrong there
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21:16 lisettelatah     cait, slow to load the page the first time, even with only 1 rule.
21:16 lisettelatah     That is definitely a problem.
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21:19 cait             i also just filed a bug about holds
21:20 cait             bug 24669
21:20 huginn           Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=24669 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Editing circulation rule breaks holds when total holds unlimited
21:20 cait             not about performance yet
21:20 cait             do you perceive it as much slower too?
21:20 ashimema[m]      Go team .🤗
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21:26 lisettelatah     I thought it was very slow. When I saved it was about 25 seconds and there was only 1 change.
21:31 cait             ouch
21:31 cait             we should file that as well
21:31 cait             maybe it woudl be resolved with the new gui, but i#s not good
21:34 cait             filed bug 24670
21:34 huginn           Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=24670 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Circulation and fine rules page has performance issues since issuingrules change
21:36 lisettelatah     cait++
21:36 cait             they might say it's ont finihsed... but then we at least know
21:36 ashimema[m]      I thought that was just me earlier today.. took like two minutes to load the circ rules table
21:37 cait             ok, so it's at least confirmed :)
21:38 lisettelatah     How do you test with a remote branch? I see the revamped circ rules on 15522 is on a remote branch ready for sign off.
21:38 ashimema[m]      Either add the remote to your git and checkout the branch.. or use a sandbox which supports branches
21:38 cait             hm it might be a little easier on a sandbox if it generlaly works on a sandbox
21:39 cait             otherweise remote yep
21:39 cait             so basically what ashimema[m] said much better than me
21:39 cait             :)
21:39 lisettelatah     I forgot the sandboxes supported remote branches. I'll try that!
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21:39 ashimema[m]      <lisettelatah "I forgot the sandboxes supported"> 'git remote add joubu https:://whatever'
21:40 ashimema[m]      'git checkout -b whatever --track joubu/whatever
21:41 ashimema[m]      That's how I do it.. but then I have loads of remotes setup already
21:41 ashimema[m]      Good luck
21:41 lisettelatah     Thanks ashimema[m]!
21:44 ashimema[m]      I really hope the performance issues can be improved.. rather disappointed the seems to be such a slow down
21:45 caroline_catlady does anyone use the "summary" in item types?
21:45 caroline_catlady I can't figure out what it does, and it's not in the manual
21:46 cait             no tusing it...
21:46 cait             i think there is a debate of removing it
21:46 andrew___        oh, caroline, I knew that at one time. one sec, dredging memory
21:46 cait             but there is a bug report with a decent test plan i think
21:47 caroline_catlady it must be there for a reason, we can't remove it completely
21:47 cait             bug 23663
21:47 huginn           Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=23663 normal, P5 - low, ---, nick, Pushed to master , Itemtype summary feature in search results is only used in deprecated opac results non-xslt view
21:47 cait             bug 17589
21:47 huginn           Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17589 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, CLOSED FIXED, Improper method type in Koha::ItemType(s)
21:47 cait             sorry, that one: 17598
21:47 cait             bug 17598
21:47 huginn           Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17598 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Make use of itemtypes.summary
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21:53 andrew___        Ah, I was getting item type summary confused with library OPAC info -- another mysterious and seemingly under-used field
21:59 koha-jenkins     Yippee, build fixed!
21:59 wahanui          Congratulations!
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21:59 lisettelatah     I'm off now.  Have a good weekend everyone!
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23:12 caroline_catlady another question... what is the difference between the system preference maxreserves and the maximum total holds allowed (count) in Circulation and fines rules > Default checkout, hold and return policy
23:13 caroline_catlady maybe someone answer me in a @later since I wont be around in the next weeks
23:15 caroline_catlady btw, I'm off for a training for the next two weeks (!!) I'll be back on IRC in March. @later me, email me or message me on What'sApp if you need anything specific from me, like cat advice or knitting advice lol :)
23:59 davidnind        caroline_catlady: have fun training!