Time Nick Message 00:03 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.05_D9 build #87: SUCCESS in 38 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.05_D9/87/ 00:08 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.05_D8 build #87: UNSTABLE in 38 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.05_D8/87/ 00:16 rangi caroline_catlady: looks good to me 00:23 ednalyn Good Morning i just want to enquire about our Koha account 00:24 rangi Hi ednalyn, not sure what you mean about account? 00:24 ednalyn about how we can access all the lists of thew names of koha members in our library system 00:26 hayley hi ednalyn you can use the Reports module, here are some reports you can copy and paste to get the right information https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/SQL_Reports_Patrons 00:26 ednalyn Because someone before us made the account of Koha and right now were having a problem how can we access fully in Koha system 00:28 ednalyn what can we do as a librarian because we cannot fully access on the acount? like ecoding new list of names for Koha members 00:29 hayley to access all functions you need to have a user with superlibrarian permissions, if you have an admin user you may be able to assign permissions to a user to be able to access all functions 03:59 edgard holi 05:21 ednalyn how we can have superlibrarian permissions,because someone before me is not here anymore 07:03 fridolin hi 07:37 * magnuse waves 07:37 * cait waves 07:39 magnuse ~~~ 07:52 alex_a Bonjour 07:54 reiveune hello 07:54 wahanui hello, reiveune 07:55 marcelr hi #koha 08:21 cait good morning #koha 08:22 magnuse hiya cait 09:28 eythian hi 09:28 wahanui hey, eythian 10:10 cait tcohen: if you have a second, could you weigh in on bug 15331? 10:10 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15331 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, RESOLVED DUPLICATE, Sort order breaks at offset=1000 (both OPAC and Intranet) 10:12 cait also ashimema[m] maybe? 10:12 ashimema[m] ? 10:12 cait question about the default sort order limit with zebra 10:12 ashimema[m] ok.. will take a look in a moment 10:13 cait thx 10:14 kohaputti if we refactor something in C4::Reserves.pm to make things faster and easier to understand then that would required a new subroutine... Would it be okay in this case to add new one under C4? 10:15 kohaputti there was a sub called IsItemAvailable or something like that and it does way too many things inside one subroutine and it would benefit from splitting it to more easily understandable chunks 10:21 ashimema[m] I have no issue with that as a step towards more managable code.. anything that makes C4 clearer to aid the move to Koha:: isn't a bad idea in my book.. adding entirely new code in C4 without making clear it's a clarification step towards Koha:: isn't harder to justify 10:21 ashimema[m] I personally often do it in two steps like this.. clarify then move 10:22 ashimema[m] just remember to make sure it's thoroughly tested ;) 10:26 davidnind @later tell caroline_catlady Hoping to wake up before the documentation meeting, if I don't I will have slept through my alarm! :) (also, have made a couple of small changes to the agenda) 10:26 huginn` davidnind: The operation succeeded. 10:29 kohaputti ashimema[m], thanks 10:53 mtj kia ora #koha 10:53 mtj hey ashimema[m], i saw you mention debian 10 problems at the meeting today... 10:54 mtj ...is there a brief list about, of what they are? 10:55 ashimema[m] I think that's part of the problem.. we've not really got a clear list as yet 10:55 ashimema[m] let me dig out the email chain.. Mirko and Fridolin were talking about it briefly 10:59 mtj np, i thought i would have a go at building a koha 19.11.01 package on deb 10 10:59 ashimema[m] that would be awesome 10:59 mtj ..and see what problems i hit 11:00 cait was Unaccent one? 11:00 ashimema[m] I expect a bunch of tests to fail once we have a package but I don't expect you to fix those.. my hope is that once we have a package that builds we can start running the tests on Jenkins and clean up the mess between us. 11:00 ashimema[m] Unaccent is certainly one I think 11:01 ashimema[m] as is Mojo and OpenAPI versions 11:03 ashimema[m] aha.. 11:03 mtj ^ ah yep.. ive seen those 3 mentioned in various bugs 11:03 * ashimema[m] sent a long message: < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/kxJgdoAcCQjczVxfUjuCuGfW > 11:04 ashimema[m] that was from fridolin to mirko back in september 11:04 * ashimema[m] sent a long message: < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/xtnUtDKaQqXgyclqkEEzVTqG > 11:04 ashimema[m] so.. that's the last I heard from Mirko to be honest 11:05 fridolin i have not been on it since 11:05 ashimema[m] so.. I think that's some fairly fundamental things that need thinking about.. stuff I've not even pondered yet :( 11:05 ashimema[m] hi frido :) 11:05 fridolin i dont know packaging, i just now the issues ;) 11:06 ashimema[m] well.. that's certainly a starting place.. I haven't tried to build Koha on a D10 at all yet myself :( 11:06 ashimema[m] been meaning to fo ages 11:10 mtj i'll make a start on it, and see if i can work thru the problems as i hit them 11:10 cait mtj++ 11:10 ashimema[m] reach out as needed.. even if all some of us can offer is a rubber duck ;) 11:10 * ashimema[m] feels uplifted today.. thanks :) 11:19 mtj my pleasure :0) 11:24 mtj the current 19.11 package installs ok on deb10 (at least) 11:25 mtj ^ the libref-util-perl / perl5.20 problem seems ok too 11:26 ashimema[m] interesting 11:26 ashimema[m] any comment there fridolin#? 11:26 ashimema[m] * any comment there fridolin? 11:26 mtj ..on deb10, libref-util installs into /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/perl5/5.28 (as expected?) 11:28 fridolin ashimema[m]: ah but is it OK for Ubuntu Bionic ? 11:29 fridolin it uses perl 5.26.1 11:30 mtj pass on ubuntu... yet 11:31 mtj im really curious why bionic is missing a bunch of packages that exist in releases before *and* after it 11:34 mtj i think for bionic - we need to package the few missing bionic packages in the kc.org repo 11:36 kohaputti mtj, are you mirko? 11:36 ashimema[m] mirko is drojf kohaputti 11:36 mtj no no, im mason 11:37 mtj ..from new zealand 11:37 kohaputti ok, I was hoping to ping drojf about bug 13193 (there is a request for a new debian package) 11:37 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13193 critical, P3, ---, joonas.kylmala, ASSIGNED , Make Memcached usage fork safe 11:37 ashimema[m] mirko and mason have been out diligent package maintainers working as a team for the past few releases.. but mirko has gone awol the last few months and mason is being awesome and stepping up a bit :) 11:38 ashimema[m] yeah.. that's on the list too kohaputti ;) 11:39 kohaputti I have done few debian packages but it's really not something I'm passionate about soo hoping someone else finds it more interesting :) 11:45 mtj i'm happy to package it for the kc.org repo (to me, it seems to be the best way forward) 11:46 mtj ..and then work on getting the package into debian proper 11:47 ashimema[m] :) 11:48 ashimema[m] if we can get the D10 builds running on the nightlies codename to start with.. then we can turn on Jenkins again for D10 and start working through the inevitable bugs :) 11:48 ashimema[m] to me, that's our first step 11:54 mtj sounds good, i'll finish off my d10 build 11:57 ashimema[m] thanks dude 12:04 mtj hmm, bionic seems to install koha 19.11.01 ok too 12:05 mtj the missing bionic packages *are* already included in the kc.org repo 12:05 ashimema[m] :) 12:06 eythian mtj: aloha 12:07 ashimema[m] we already have Bionic testing running on Jenkins.. 12:07 mtj hey eythian 12:07 ashimema[m] and we're not interested in Disco or Eoan I think (Only LTS Ubuntu's was our agreement way back when) 12:08 ashimema[m] ack.. Focal will be an LTS though.. 20.04... so we'll have this all over again with that 12:08 ashimema[m] assuming we continue to want to offer that patturn of support 12:08 * ashimema[m] heads out for a quick walk 12:10 mtj eythian: giz a ping when youre heading to HZ, im keen to catchup for a bier 🺠:0) 12:11 eythian mtj: sure thing :) 12:12 cait bier? :) 12:18 mtj bier/beer 12:19 cait just wondered if you wanted german beer specifically :) 12:23 mtj hmm, thats a delicious idea cait :p 12:34 BR_ Hi, I was chatting with members yesterday and my computer crashed. Is there an archive where i can check what was the last response from members to my last entry. 12:35 mtj ping fridolin: the libref-util-perl/perl-5.20 problem seems to only be on bionic (using the ubuntu package too) 12:36 oleonard Hi #koha 12:36 magnuse BR_: http://irc.koha-community.org/ 12:36 BR_ thanks 12:43 mtj fridolin: does the perl-5.20 bug stop libref-util-perl from working? - or does it just install the files into an incorrect dir 12:55 fridolin mtj: indeed, its the pb of perl with compiled code 12:55 fridolin can we create libref-util-perl-5.2' ? and koha-perldeps-bionic ? 12:57 mtj hi frido, bug stop libref-util-perl from working? 13:14 mtj fridolin: i think a fix would be to add libref-util-perl (0.204-1) to kc.org repo 13:15 fridolin bug is that perl code is not activ since its not in PER5LIB 13:15 fridolin and compiled code is i think bad 13:16 fridolin libref-util-perl can be in kc.org repo but how do we provide both perl versions ? 13:18 mtj aah hmm, the problem is more complex than i thought.. 13:18 mtj ..there are more pkgs with files in /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/perl5/5.20, in bionic 13:35 mtj fridolin: i think your koha-perldeps-bionic package would work well :0) 13:36 fridolin but we may create a package libref-util-perl-dev that launches the compilation 13:36 fridolin i dont know with solution is best 13:37 fridolin ... or CPAN \o/ 13:41 mtj hmm, yeah.. not sure about that too 13:41 * mtj heads to bed - its late! ;) 13:42 oleonard I'll say mtj! 13:42 oleonard mtj++ 13:49 caroline_catlady good morning everyone! 13:52 oleonard Hi caroline_catlady 13:56 cait morning caroline_catlady, hi oleonard 13:57 caroline_catlady davidnind: are you awake? 13:57 cait oleonard: from your twitter mood... can I hell? 13:57 cait help! 13:57 oleonard Thanks cait! It's just, y'know.... 2020. 13:57 * oleonard gestures to everything 13:59 * oleonard sets his Bugzilla preferences back to that old comfy purple skin 14:00 cait oleonard: ah, that.. yeah 14:00 caroline_catlady ready for meeting? 14:00 cait oh 14:00 cait no , but yes? 14:01 caroline_catlady #startmeeting Documentation IRC meeting 9 January 2020 14:01 huginn` Meeting started Thu Jan 9 14:01:11 2020 UTC. The chair is caroline_catlady. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 14:01 huginn` Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 14:01 huginn` The meeting name has been set to 'documentation_irc_meeting_9_january_2020' 14:01 ashimema[m] ooh.. meeting :) 14:01 caroline_catlady #topic Introductions 14:01 caroline_catlady please use "#info" in front of your introduction to have it show up in the automatic minutes 14:01 ashimema[m] #info Martin Renvoize, PTFS Europe 14:01 caroline_catlady #info Caroline Cyr La Rose, inLibro 14:02 Marie-Luce #info Marie-Luce Laflamme, inLibro 14:02 georgew #George Williams, Northeast Kansas Library System 14:02 cait #info Katrin Fischer, BSZ, Germany 14:02 caroline_catlady davidnind says he set his alarm but might not have woken up... :( 14:02 georgew #info George Williams, Northeast Kansas Library System 14:03 davidnind #info David Nind, Wellington, New Zealand 14:03 caroline_catlady oh hi! 14:04 davidnind morning! 14:04 wahanui morning is always someone's afternoon 14:04 caroline_catlady #topic Review of action points 14:04 caroline_catlady #chair davidnind 14:04 huginn` Current chairs: caroline_catlady davidnind 14:04 caroline_catlady Ok so action point from last time 14:04 caroline_catlady review of documentation manager role 14:05 caroline_catlady #link https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Documentation_management 14:05 caroline_catlady anybody have comments on what was done? 14:05 davidnind looks good so far 14:05 * caroline_catlady realizes she hasn't sent a reminder of the meeting on the list like it's written on that page ... -_- 14:06 caroline_catlady will do better next time! 14:06 caroline_catlady Also Review of transition workflow 14:06 caroline_catlady #link https://gitlab.com/koha-community/koha-manual/issues/13 14:07 caroline_catlady there has been some more dwork done on this 14:07 caroline_catlady I branched 19.11 so we are effectively working on the 20.05 manual! 14:07 caroline_catlady hoping to get 19.11 up to date asap before the new features and enhacements start rolling in for 20.05 14:08 caroline_catlady davidnind: you had a concern about the branching? 14:09 davidnind that's all good 14:09 thd #info Thomas Dukleth, Agogme, New York City - [mild cold] 14:09 caroline_catlady ok 14:09 * ashimema[m] should read the latest updates there.. will catch up 14:09 caroline_catlady Last action point Managing branches and back porting changes 14:10 davidnind got in the swing of back porting changes, so happy to do that if you would like 14:10 caroline_catlady Like I said, I branched 19.11, and I have been backporting commits as needed 14:10 Joubu #info Jonathan Druart 14:10 caroline_catlady rangi said what I did was ok, so I'll try to document what I did for future reference 14:11 ashimema[m] ++ 14:11 cait caroline_catlady++ 14:12 caroline_catlady #topic Project updates 14:12 caroline_catlady #link https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_Documentation_Team#To_do_lists_and_projects 14:12 caroline_catlady anybody have updates on projects they have been working on? 14:14 thd I am back in New York where I can work on Koha instead of cleaning ceiling's etc. for my mother in California. 14:14 caroline_catlady hehe! 14:15 davidnind nothing to add from me (did nothing over the xmas break :-() 14:15 * cait was lazy too 14:16 caroline_catlady alright so we'll see next time 14:16 caroline_catlady #topic What's been done so far 14:17 caroline_catlady davidnind: has been doing some maintenance work 14:17 caroline_catlady with bernardo 14:18 ashimema[m] :) 14:18 caroline_catlady lucyvh has been doing several changes from 18.11, thanks for catching us up! 14:18 davidnind lucyvh++ 14:19 caroline_catlady ashimema[m] has the trophy for first commit to 19.11 :) add EDI LRP support to stock rotation 14:19 cait so happy to see all the updates! 14:19 caroline_catlady and AndyBoze has the trophy for first commit to 20.05 and it's his first contribution! 14:20 caroline_catlady We also have another first contributor : Alexander Borkowski (not sure what is the irc handle) 14:20 caroline_catlady ashimema[m]++ lucyvh++ AndyBoze++ everyone++ :D 14:20 ashimema[m] hehe.. i wrote that submission months ago when i wrote the code :) 14:21 * ashimema[m] would encourage devs to try to do the same. 14:21 ashimema[m] awesome to see new contributors too :) 14:21 ashimema[m] woop, woop 14:21 cait woop! 14:21 caroline_catlady yes! yay! 14:22 caroline_catlady awesome everyone! 14:22 davidnind caroline_catlady has been adding all the tasks to taiga, and a bit of a flurry of changes in the last week by Holly 14:22 lucyvh Apologies, lost track of time! 14:22 caroline_catlady right! I merged them and totally forgot to mention it :) 14:23 lucyvh Hi everyone 14:23 caroline_catlady hi lucyvh! we were just ++ing you for your great work :) 14:23 davidnind hi lucyvh! 14:24 caroline_catlady #topic Content development guidelines 14:24 caroline_catlady davidnind has been working on this 14:24 caroline_catlady New section on commit messages 14:24 caroline_catlady #link https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Git_guide_for_documentation#Commit_messages 14:25 caroline_catlady (though I don't think we will not refuse commits if they don't have this formar) 14:25 caroline_catlady also more info on how to write links 14:25 caroline_catlady #link https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/ReStructuredText_-_Tips_and_Tricks#Links 14:26 caroline_catlady words to use instead of others 14:26 caroline_catlady #link https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Word_usage_-_A-Z 14:26 caroline_catlady for example use staff clinet instead of intranet, etc... 14:26 caroline_catlady *client 14:26 cait wow, very cool 14:26 ashimema[m] awesome work 14:26 cait consistent use of words is helpful for translations as well 14:27 cait although one could argue that we don't have a client 14:27 cait in technical terms 14:27 lucyvh Its so useful to have all this written up somewhere - amazing work! 14:27 caroline_catlady I agree, but that's in the Koha terminology... 14:28 cait oh i see 14:28 caroline_catlady Personnaly, I would prefer staff interface 14:28 cait same :) 14:28 cait we use the literal translation fo that in German 14:28 caroline_catlady #link https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Terminology 14:28 davidnind I've got a few more, but started with a couple (staff client was from the current terminology list at https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Terminology) 14:28 cait so maybe we shoudl rethink that there than if we want to change 14:29 caroline_catlady is it used a lot in the code of Koha? 14:29 davidnind do we want to change it? I prefer staff interface myself 14:29 caroline_catlady Ok, so we'll change it for the documentation 14:30 lucyvh +1 for staff interface 14:30 davidnind I think I've seen all of them used so far in the manual 14:30 caroline_catlady ashimema[m]: you can decide what you want to do in Koha's code itself 14:30 ashimema[m] code wise we say 'intranet'.. but that all hidden to end users in reality 14:30 oleonard My quick search only turns up one use of "staff client" in the templates 14:30 cait i think there is everything in the gui now 14:30 ashimema[m] terms wise I'm happy with 'staff interface' as the standard 14:30 thd Even if "X client" may be technically correct in terms of function. People in the general population at least may relate better to "interface". 14:30 cait so not too late to change :) 14:31 caroline_catlady ok davidnind can you change the wiki page? 14:31 ashimema[m] I think it's most likely to come up allot in the manual but very rarely be a term we use in koha itself 14:31 cait i think probably in the prefs most 14:31 davidnind I will! 14:31 oleonard Switching from "intranet" to "staff client" was an improvement but also an arbitrary decision. 14:31 cait but t would be an easy clean-up job 14:31 ashimema[m] coolios 14:31 cait oleonard: are you ok too with staff interface? 14:31 caroline_catlady #action davidnind will change the manual terminology from staff client to staff interface 14:31 cait so maybe we should change both pages 14:32 oleonard I imagine that support companies might have standardized on "staff client" in their web sites and documentation? 14:32 oleonard Something to check on. 14:32 oleonard Otherwise I like staff interface. 14:32 caroline_catlady we use intranet or staff interface in our local docs 14:32 cait quickly checking bywater for some samples 14:33 davidnind as the terminology page is part of the development guide, should we raise at development meeting as well? 14:33 caroline_catlady #action caroline will add a task to change the terms in the manual 14:33 georgew I hear staff client, staff interface, and intranet from ByWater all the time. It depends on who you're talking to. 14:34 cait hm couldn#t turn up an example yet 14:34 oleonard ByWater can patch those humans' operating systems in a snap right? 14:34 lucyvh We use all those variations times also at PTFS 14:34 georgew I'm sure they'd like to 14:34 georgew It varies in the documentation I've seen from them to 14:34 cait thx georgew 14:34 georgew And it changes overtime 14:35 caroline_catlady so there isn't a standard, but for the manual, we want it to be consistent 14:35 caroline_catlady I will be an easy task for a newbie to commit 14:36 caroline_catlady we're also thinking of adding a glossary to the manual to help ppl who are coming from other systems 14:36 caroline_catlady I started one on a local branch 14:36 caroline_catlady I will commit it soon, but I'm not sure how to make it show up in the table of contents 14:36 caroline_catlady is it automatic? 14:37 davidnind the glossary is autogenerated I think 14:37 caroline_catlady is it? 14:37 cait caroline_catlady: i think it's automatic yes 14:37 cait hm would it be top level new file? 14:37 caroline_catlady that's wahat I was thinking 14:38 caroline_catlady so it could go at the end 14:38 cait let me quickly check 14:38 pastebot "caroline_catlady" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "here's what an entry looks like in my file" (5 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/18771 14:39 caroline_catlady the "see" is "instead of term 1, use term 2 14:40 caroline_catlady so in my example, loan will refer to checkout 14:40 cait i thought it was source/index.rst 14:41 davidnind the terms show up in the index, there is a link to that at the top and bottom of each manual page 14:41 cait ah it is: https://gitlab.com/koha-community/koha-manual/raw/master/source/index.rst 14:41 cait gitlab does some rendering that makes some not show, but you can see it in raw 14:41 cait you just sort your new file in there 14:42 caroline_catlady ok thanks cait 14:42 caroline_catlady davidnind: I found the index list, but it's empty 14:42 cait i thin it just looks like it on gitlab - did you try 'raw'? 14:42 cait or edit, if you are logge din 14:43 davidnind that's because there areno entries yet 14:43 caroline_catlady https://koha-community.org/manual/19.11/en/html/genindex.html 14:43 caroline_catlady ok so when I add my file, it will populate this? 14:44 davidnind should do, I think it did when I tested 14:44 caroline_catlady ok cool! 14:45 caroline_catlady #topic Next steps 14:45 caroline_catlady I wanted to talk about priorities 14:45 cait oh, different file! 14:46 caroline_catlady I'd really like to catch up 19.11 so that when the devs start to add new stuff to 20.05 we can stay on top 14:46 ashimema[m] +1 14:46 caroline_catlady so priority #1 is anything in 19.11 on Taiga 14:46 cait should we note versions in commit messages? 14:47 caroline_catlady I started adding "new feature", "enhancement" and "screenshot" tags in taiga, and that is the prioriuty order too (new features, then enhancements, then screenshots) 14:47 ashimema[m] probably a good idea 14:47 caroline_catlady write the version number in the commit message or the commit comment 14:47 davidnind I think adding it to the merge request would be better, e.g. this was added in 19.05, etc 14:48 caroline_catlady as long as it's written somewhere 14:49 caroline_catlady There are some interesting agenda points still to cover, but I think we on't have enough time 14:50 caroline_catlady is it ok if we move these to the next meeting? 14:50 davidnind that's fine with me 14:50 ashimema[m] me too 14:50 caroline_catlady ok good! 14:50 cait yes 14:50 caroline_catlady #topic Set time of next meeting 14:51 caroline_catlady feb 6? 20UTC? 14:51 davidnind +1 14:52 davidnind hope it's not too late for everyone else... 14:52 thd +1 14:52 ashimema[m] 1 14:52 lucyvh +1 14:53 caroline_catlady #info Next meeting: 6 February 2020, 20 UTC 14:53 caroline_catlady #endmeeting 14:53 huginn` Meeting ended Thu Jan 9 14:53:25 2020 UTC. 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(v 0.1.4) 14:53 huginn` Minutes: http://meetings.koha-community.org/2020/documentation_irc_meeting_9_january_2020.2020-01-09-14.01.html 14:53 huginn` Minutes (text): http://meetings.koha-community.org/2020/documentation_irc_meeting_9_january_2020.2020-01-09-14.01.txt 14:53 huginn` Log: http://meetings.koha-community.org/2020/documentation_irc_meeting_9_january_2020.2020-01-09-14.01.log.html 14:53 caroline_catlady thanks everyone! 14:53 davidnind caroline_catlady++ 14:54 lucyvh Thanks all 14:56 oleonard caroline_catlady++ 14:57 davidnind (I borrowed the format for the word usage list from the IBM Style Guide https://www.oreilly.com/library/view/the-ibm-style/9780132118989/) 15:03 caroline_catlady ashimema[m]: can you run the script that adds the minutes and things to the meeting wiki page? 15:08 thd Putting my cold back to sleep before I have to go to work. 15:13 caroline_catlady I find the email subject "Warning about patron relationship problems" incredibly funny... Like "oh those two aren't together anymore, he never did the dishes" 15:18 ashimema[m] lol 15:19 ashimema[m] and I've run the meeting script now 15:19 caroline_catlady thx! 15:19 oleonard caroline_catlady: I have a feeling there are library patrons about whom librarians would like to use that message 16:05 wizzyrea bahaha 16:14 caroline_catlady is there a bug to remane the "news" tool now that it's not only for news? 16:14 oleonard Not that I've seen caroline_catlady 16:17 caroline_catlady Added Bug 24387 16:17 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=24387 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Rename News tool 16:17 caroline_catlady probably easy enuogh to change 16:24 oleonard caroline_catlady is drunk with power after renaming the staff client 16:24 caroline_catlady lol!! 16:29 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 18731: (QA follow-up) Spelling and POD corrections <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=8b6d1579b7fdd5e1210283a52f8da3411d0c1c87> 16:29 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 18731: Use the stashed koha.embed in objects.search <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=021f5c95d7d0b9bff8eb703abc6fb65a656bd3de> 16:29 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 18731: Add API mappings to K::A::{Basket,Invoice} <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=5d8ae2e6c8fd6f0de86f13ed444aec6fe69d9147> 16:29 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 18731: Make authenticate_api_request stash the embed structure <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=110170760c3ae2b4ec842bca651f767b71dd0701> 16:29 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 18731: Unit tests <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=6659a45b6ea6f957f3c9c0d0f022a086ea78432e> 16:29 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 18731: OpenAPI definitions <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=5cd9c904c4ecef58a4e9b8d38ddb587f67c5a617> 16:29 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 18731: /acquisitions/orders endpoint <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=441cde5dbdf914953986cae2af9bb7bac569f87a> 16:39 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 24257: Fix close of modal on 'Yes, print slip' <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a2bd9e361a6ec1f489f5a51892dcaa63b7d7a9a5> 16:39 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 24255: Add summation methods to Koha::Account::Lines <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=836079c1002273f9c6ab2b1c6b1dc638aa062768> 16:49 ashimema[m] funny.. I was going to say can we rename the news tool :) 16:49 ashimema[m] thanks for reporting it caroline_catlady 16:56 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 21959: Add sponsor details <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=96ab49823291d441fd43ed0cbef242f7beb58d37> 16:57 reiveune bye 17:04 * ashimema[m] is pleased to see the release note already starting to fill up nicely for 20.05 🙂 https://gitlab.com/koha-community/koha-release-notes/blob/master/release_notes_19_12_00.md 17:17 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9_MDB_Latest build #36: STILL UNSTABLE in 44 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9_MDB_Latest/36/ 17:17 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D8 build #590: STILL UNSTABLE in 44 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D8/590/ 17:35 caroline_catlady question: the BarcodeSeparators syspref, does it affect the barcode files or the barcodes you enter in the box? 17:36 caroline_catlady it's not clear in the bug description bug 22996 17:36 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=22996 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, RESOLVED FIXED, Move barcode separators to a preference 17:37 caroline_catlady and other related question do we have to espace all the characters we put in there? it only says to escape the hyphen, but shouldn't the dot be escaped too? 17:47 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9 build #1058: STILL UNSTABLE in 39 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9/1058/ 18:03 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9_My8 build #67: STILL UNSTABLE in 46 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9_My8/67/ 18:28 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_U18 build #530: STILL UNSTABLE in 40 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U18/530/ 18:45 oleonard Anyone know if there is a way to add multiple patrons to a club at once? 18:47 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9_MDB_Latest build #37: STILL UNSTABLE in 44 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9_MDB_Latest/37/ 18:47 oleonard khall? ^^ 18:48 khall oleonard I'm afraid not 18:48 khall a batch tool would be nice though 18:48 oleonard Okay I just wanted to make sure I wasn't missing it 18:48 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D8 build #591: STILL UNSTABLE in 42 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D8/591/ 19:52 * oleonard learns about the UseCashRegisters preference 19:52 cait how is it? 19:53 oleonard We're still getting to know each other 20:00 oleonard See y'all tomorrow! 20:05 wizzyrea oh bugger he left 4 mins ago. 20:31 caroline_catlady what does making a cash register "default" do? 20:31 caroline_catlady I added several cash registers to the same library and made one of them default, but when I go to pay a fee, it's the first alphabetically that is selected by default 20:32 caroline_catlady not sure what else 'Make default' could mean 20:33 caroline_catlady oh nevermind, I hadn't saved, hehe 20:40 ashimema[m] Hehe 20:40 ashimema[m] Did I not add documentation for cash registers yet..? 20:42 ashimema[m] Oleonard, there's a team by piece missing from the cash registers stuff.. I'm looking to add a follow-up bug ton over it. It works better if you define a payment_type with the code 'CASH'.. seems it got lost during rebases.. 20:43 ashimema[m] Just thought I'de give you the heads uo 20:43 caroline_catlady I didn't see it... 20:44 caroline_catlady I hope I didn't just do this in double 20:45 ashimema[m] Not surprised if it's missed it.. 20:45 ashimema[m] I'm behind on my own documentation.. 20:45 * ashimema[m] is bad at following his own rules.. 20:45 ashimema[m] Thanks Caroline 😀 21:00 caroline_catlady Do we have strong opinions about the permissions being all divided up in sub sections? https://koha-community.org/manual/19.11/en/html/patrons.html#patron-permissions-defined 21:01 caroline_catlady Would it make it too long if we did just one long subsection with all the permissions? 21:01 caroline_catlady cait? 21:01 wahanui i think cait is qa manager 21:01 caroline_catlady I think you're right wahanui 21:04 hayley hehe 21:17 cait huh? :) 21:17 cait no ;) 21:17 cait maybe even a table? 21:17 cait could make it shorter 21:19 caroline_catlady tables are hard to manage in rst i find 21:20 caroline_catlady unless I'm just not doing it right 21:20 cait no you are probably right 21:46 ashimema[m] https://thomas-cokelaer.info/tutorials/sphinx/rest_syntax.html#the-csv-table-directive 21:46 ashimema[m] Csv-table looks fairly simple? 21:50 caroline_catlady oh cool! looks much easier! 21:50 caroline_catlady I'm used to the ones that look like sql 21:50 caroline_catlady if you write something longer, you have to change all the other lines... ugh 22:09 koha-jenkins Project Koha_18.11_D8 build #218: SUCCESS in 33 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_18.11_D8/218/ 22:09 koha-jenkins Project Koha_18.11_D9 build #220: SUCCESS in 30 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_18.11_D9/220/ 22:15 koha-jenkins Project Koha_18.11_U18 build #210: SUCCESS in 34 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_18.11_U18/210/ 22:37 tcohen hi there 22:42 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed! 22:42 wahanui Congratulations! 22:42 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.05_D8 build #88: FIXED in 33 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.05_D8/88/ 22:43 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.05_D9 build #88: SUCCESS in 34 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.05_D9/88/ 22:45 * cait waves 22:52 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.05_U18 build #89: SUCCESS in 37 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.05_U18/89/ 23:14 koha-jenkins Project Koha_18.11_D9 build #221: SUCCESS in 30 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_18.11_D9/221/ 23:15 koha-jenkins Project Koha_18.11_D8 build #219: UNSTABLE in 32 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_18.11_D8/219/ 23:26 koha-jenkins Project Koha_18.11_U18 build #211: SUCCESS in 33 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_18.11_U18/211/ 23:37 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.05_D8 build #89: UNSTABLE in 22 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.05_D8/89/ 23:53 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.05_U18 build #90: UNSTABLE in 38 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.05_U18/90/ 23:54 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.05_D9 build #89: UNSTABLE in 28 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.05_D9/89/