Time Nick Message 23:47 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.05_U18 build #84: SUCCESS in 34 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.05_U18/84/ 23:38 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.05_D8 build #83: SUCCESS in 28 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.05_D8/83/ 23:25 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.05_D9 build #83: SUCCESS in 43 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.05_D9/83/ 23:12 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.05_U18 build #83: SUCCESS in 35 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.05_U18/83/ 23:09 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.05_D8 build #82: SUCCESS in 28 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.05_D8/82/ 22:49 rangi cya tcohen 22:43 tcohen night all 22:41 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.11_U18 build #23: SUCCESS in 51 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.11_U18/23/ 22:40 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.11_D9 build #22: UNSTABLE in 44 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.11_D9/22/ 22:29 rangi hi tcohen 22:27 tcohen hi 22:21 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.11_D8 build #22: SUCCESS in 31 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.11_D8/22/ 22:16 cait good night all 22:01 cait it means you are a good tester :) 22:00 caroline_catlady go to know that I'm "special" hehe! 21:57 cait it's a special skill 21:57 cait yeah, sometimes everything you touch breaks 21:57 caroline_catlady I was just trying to reproduce my OverdueBlocks Circ thing... which I was working on because of a question from a client... rabbit holes 21:56 caroline_catlady lol ok! good to know! 21:56 cait hope they are going to fix it tomorrow 21:56 cait but holds are actually broken if you run into that next 21:56 cait not sure 21:56 cait hm same here 21:56 caroline_catlady all my tags tables are empty 21:55 caroline_catlady no 21:55 cait does the record have tags defined? 21:55 cait i think it's a perl module used by koha 21:54 caroline_catlady since it's in /usr/lib/ I thought maybe it was a perl error rather than a Koha error 21:54 cait looks ok for me 21:53 caroline_catlady both 21:53 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.05_D9 build #82: SUCCESS in 38 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.05_D9/82/ 21:53 cait opac or staff? 21:53 cait I can test it 21:52 caroline_catlady anybody else have this problem? eric found the Tags clue in irc logs from last May 21:52 caroline_catlady my freshly pulled master has a weird error when trying to view a record, but ONLY if TagsEnabled is on... ?? Can't use an undefined value as an ARRAY reference at /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/perl5/5.26/DBI.pm line 2081. 21:40 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.05_U18 build #82: SUCCESS in 38 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.05_U18/82/ 21:34 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.05_D8 build #81: SUCCESS in 34 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.05_D8/81/ 21:29 wizzyrea np :) 21:29 hayley thanks wizzyrea :) 21:28 wizzyrea hayley++ 21:23 hayley message it to you :) 21:23 wizzyrea hayley what's your email address? 21:18 wizzyrea it'd be so much better than the JS one I think 21:18 cait i didn't see an option for that 21:18 wizzyrea ^ if we don't use it, we probably should 21:17 cait dont know for sure about elastic, ut i haven't seen it mentioned 21:17 wizzyrea cool I can check on it. I usually just assign a password and don't worry about the email part 21:17 cait wizzyrea: i used hmapley as a username 21:17 hayley oh thanks wizzyrea, cait has given it a go and I haven't received an email yet, woul;d you mind checking if everything looks right? :) 21:16 wizzyrea (rangi can too I think) 21:16 wizzyrea hayley, YES, I can do that 21:16 wizzyrea instead of the JS one that is a little naff? 21:15 wizzyrea does anyone know, when elastic is enabled, do we use it's internal highlighting? 21:13 cait ifound some bugs about noissuecharge too 21:11 caroline_catlady I think it's masked when we use NoIssuesCharge 21:11 cait it sounds like we should block it 21:10 caroline_catlady when using OverduesBlockCirc set at "Block" shouldn't we mask the checkout box? Right now, we can scan the barcode, and only after we've scanned it does it say that the patron is not allowed to checkout 20:58 hayley thank you! 20:57 cait I've never done it before 20:56 cait give me a moment 20:56 cait i can check 20:56 hayley git on the brain 20:55 hayley oh shoot thank you rangi :) 20:55 rangi koha-community.org that is ;) 20:55 hayley hi cait, are you able to make accounts on koha.git-community.org? I am trying to post the release notes for the most recent 18.11 release :) 20:41 andreashm don't really start working until tomorrow though, so mostly lurking. 20:40 andreashm =) 20:40 andreashm always. 20:40 andreashm hey cait 20:40 cait hi andreashm - still keeping odd hours? :) 20:34 huginn` cait: The operation succeeded. 20:34 cait @later tell ashimema i meant the post-release bug cleanup thing 20:34 huginn` cait: The operation succeeded. 20:34 cait @later tell ashimema we did the post-release email thing 20:00 oleonard And bye again 19:56 wahanui hi oleopard 19:56 aleisha hi oleonard 19:55 * cait waves 19:55 oleonard Hi aleisha 16:06 reiveune bye 15:57 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=22880 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Convert opacheader system preference to news block 15:57 oleonard vfernandes: The goal is to convert anything like that. I'm waiting for Bug 22880 to get tested before I submit more patches (several of which are ready to go) 15:56 vfernandes ok :) maybe the intranetmainuserblock should also be converted to news block 15:51 oleonard vfernandes: It should be but it hasn't been discussed 15:50 vfernandes the tool will be renamed? 15:50 vfernandes that's good because it allows to have different content by language (currently we do the content control with JS) 15:45 oleonard vfernandes: Yes, and opacnav, opacnavbottom, any OPAC pref which is designed to accept HTML content 15:45 vfernandes oleonard: which systempreferences will be converted to news block? opaccredits, opacheader, opacmainuserblock? 15:45 oleonard tcohen still around? 15:39 cait true 15:38 oleonard Most hats look silly on most people 15:36 cait although most hats look silly on me :) 15:36 cait i can live with that 15:31 oleonard Yes 15:31 cait oh, like a cowgirl? 15:30 cait i have no idea what that is 15:28 * oleonard gets cait a 10-gallon hat and lariat for bug-wrangling 15:26 cait addictive 15:25 cait i will finish my time travelling at some point and get back to those... but finding bugs to close is so... satisfying 15:25 * oleonard dusts the cobwebs off of it 15:25 cait :) 15:25 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=22880 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Convert opacheader system preference to news block 15:25 oleonard If y'all like that check out Bug 22880! 15:25 oleonard https://bywatersolutions.com/education/monday-minutes-utilizing-the-new-news-feature-for-opac-customization 15:19 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=24347 new feature, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Add a 'search to order' option similar to 'search to hold' 15:19 oleonard Bug 24347 ready to test 14:41 cait real humans! 14:39 oleonard I was distracted by IRL humans but have not been scared off 14:33 cait just frogged my last finished project (didn#t fit) 14:33 cait i really need to update my ravelry 14:31 caroline_catlady The pattern is https://www.ravelry.com/patterns/library/silverleaf-2 14:31 caroline_catlady Still haven't given it to my mom... :( I hhaven't seen her since christmas 14:30 caroline_catlady the blue one? 14:28 cait caroline_catlady: still thinking about your scarf - pretty color and pattern :) 14:25 * cait hopes my rant didn't scare him off 14:21 cait oleonard++ 14:21 caroline_catlady oleonard++ 14:20 cait and btw... big thanks for looking into this at all! 14:20 cait oleonard: would that be doable? 14:20 cait so that would be option 1, but with a change to the search field 14:19 caroline_catlady it's a good compromise I think 14:19 cait and we enable advanced searching 14:19 cait but we get rid of the not so great search result list in acq 14:19 cait so you'd have bestof both worlds... simple and advanced search 14:18 cait withthe new add order links 14:18 cait it could go ot the normal result list 14:18 cait but instead of going ot the search result list in acq like it does now 14:18 cait i wonder if we could have a simple search form 14:18 cait hm for the click more 14:17 caroline_catlady I think I like the second one better... It's one more click, but it's more consistent with the other choices AND with the regular search results 14:15 cait i think advanced search and then https://zivotdesign.com/p/view.php?p=15783148764095 14:14 caroline_catlady Where does it go when we click on the link in the second option? 14:14 caroline_catlady I thought it was a comparison between old and new 14:13 caroline_catlady Oh ok, no I get it 14:13 caroline_catlady I've only gotten one option I think? 14:12 cait caroline_catlady: which option do you like better from oleonard's screnshot? 14:08 caroline_catlady I agree for the external source... it's really not clear 14:08 eythian oleonard: it's OK, there's still the private #all-about-oleopard channel, it's pretty active 14:07 oleonard Yeah I feel like y'all aren't talking about me anymore and I can't handle it. 14:07 cait scope creeping for this bug for sure 14:07 cait sorry, that's philosophical, but i feel a revamp might be nice at some point :) 14:07 cait why do we not say SRU/Z3950 like in cataloguing? 14:06 cait and noone undertands the "external source" either 14:06 cait because what's an empty record? 14:06 cait or just ' New record' 14:05 cait create an acq record or similar might be better 14:05 caroline_catlady I don't know, my eye just skips the first word 14:05 cait and people never understad "from a new (empty) record" in my training 14:05 cait it's something you will use often and the amount of text makes it hard to spot what you are looking for 14:05 cait but it feels clunky 14:05 cait i know 14:04 cait or even... Existing record 14:04 caroline_catlady I think it's just to complete the sentence Add order to basket ... 14:04 cait it could just be "Use existing record" 14:04 cait i mean there is an awful lot of text 14:04 cait why do we have the From everywhere... 14:04 cait oleonard: i am undecided... i think i tend a bit to the second... but wonder if we should not make this all nicer 14:03 oleonard Two versions I've tried: Adding it as an 'advanced search' option, and completely replacing the old version. https://zivotdesign.com/p/view.php?p=15783190632296 14:03 oleonard https://zivotdesign.com/p/view.php?p=15783148764095 14:03 cait and how it should look like in the aquisition module 14:03 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=24347 new feature, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Add a 'search to order' option similar to 'search to hold' 14:03 oleonard caroline_catlady: We're talking about Bug 24347 14:02 caroline_catlady hum. sure? 14:02 cait (looking at pretty pictures from owen) 14:02 cait caroline_catlady: do you want to be our second acq opinion? 14:02 cait caroline_catlady: happy nw year :) 13:59 oleonard Hi caroline_catlady 13:59 caroline_catlady happy new year everyone! 13:58 oleonard cait: Two versions I've tried: Adding it as an 'advanced search' option, and completely replacing the old version. https://zivotdesign.com/p/view.php?p=15783190632296 13:52 cait but probably good to get some acq people's opinions 13:52 cait I lean towards yes 13:51 cait my feeling is it could replace it middle term 13:51 oleonard Agreed 13:51 cait maybe some formatting already could help there... (line height etc.) 13:51 cait I was thinking the other day that our long link list of options doesn't have a great usability 13:50 cait hm good question 13:49 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=24347 new feature, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Add a 'search to order' option similar to 'search to hold' 13:49 oleonard cait: Do you think Bug 24347 should eliminate the existing "From an existing record" search in acquisitions? 13:41 magnuse i think you have to enable email for that problem to occur, so if you do that without configuring email on the server it is probably a sysadmin issue? 13:40 magnuse good question 13:32 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13483 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , If unconfigured nullmailer, huge log size and make host run out of space 13:32 cait is bug 13483 a koha or a sysadmin issue? 13:26 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13390 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , authority overlay overwrites bib links 13:26 cait bug 13390 13:26 cait hm i wonder how 13390 could happen 13:25 cait heh kind of 13:15 oleonard The good ol' days. 13:12 cait november 2014... ah... 13:00 cait i have probably filed a ton of invalid bugs over time... but I'd rather see people close it than it being not fixed 12:59 cait ah, I can no longer be embarassed 12:59 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=24350 blocker, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, NEW , Can't place holds 12:59 cait bug 24350 12:59 oleonard Thanks for filing But 24350 cait. I hesitated because I thought it might be just me. 12:51 cait just so there is... something 12:51 cait some want that 12:51 cait i have a jquery snippet somewhere to auto-enter the date 12:51 cait i was thinking maybe basketnumber, but the short text might just work best 12:51 oleonard I'm glad to hear it's not just me! 12:51 cait people never know what to enter there, often just do today#s date 12:50 cait basket names are often not so helpful i think 12:50 oleonard I was wondering whether it needed more information like basket name and vendor 12:49 oleonard Yes 12:49 cait it would only show if you have used the link from acq, right? 12:49 oleonard What do you think about that link text? It is correct/clear? 12:48 cait ooooh shiny 12:48 oleonard cait: https://zivotdesign.com/p/view.php?p=15783148764095 12:46 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=24351 major, P1 - high, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , During Installation, connection to remote mysql server fails 12:46 cait anyone for bug 24351? not sure if bug or installation error 12:45 cait morning tcohen 12:44 oleonard Hi tcohen 12:43 tcohen morning 12:41 eythian it'd be worth digitising. Then extracting things like adverts and uploading to Internet Archive. 12:40 cait possibly 12:40 oleonard I still have a few VHS tapes that I need to send away to get digitized while I still can 12:40 eythian I imagine they're still readily findable. 12:40 oleonard :( 12:39 cait so maybe you can still easily get old ones cheap? our broke down at some point and that was the end to all the films my mum recorded 12:39 cait interesting 12:39 oleonard We still have one or two library branches that still carry VHS tapes because their service population hasn't been able to upgrade 12:38 cait i guess getting a recorder this years is oto hard 12:38 eythian ah, no, seems that their website doesn't talk about VHS so much so either that's changed or I remember wrong. 12:36 eythian I think wellington might still have a video (as in VHS) rental shop. 12:33 eythian and cheaper 12:33 eythian yeah, we had those too of course. But the postal thing was more convenient. 12:33 cait interesting, i don't think there is a German equivalent - there used to be 'shops' for renting... but obviously not that many around any more 12:33 eythian looks like it shut down in 2017 anyway. 12:32 eythian cait: it wasn't in NZ either, but we had a company that did the same thing, I only got rid of it in 2015 when I moved countries. 12:32 cait aaw :) 12:32 oleonard cait: And I will never complain about bug noise, especially from you! 12:31 cait eythian: on the plus side... i don't think the dvd posting was ever available in germany :) 12:30 cait oleonard: and i thought htat was only me :) 12:30 eythian I miss having a service like that, the range of options was so much larger than streaming 12:30 oleonard cait: No at work, just Koha'ing. 12:30 eythian cait: yeah, netflix started off doing DVD posting 12:29 cait sorry to make so much bug noise - did you work saturday? 12:29 cait hi oleonard :) 12:29 cait that was pre-streaming... wasn't it? 12:29 cait "I would love to see holds updated to act kind of like the Netflix DVD queue system." 12:29 oleonard Hi #koha 12:15 cait heh 12:15 eythian oh bother, you've just reminded me that there was a new Doctor Who episode last night that I forgot to download. 12:07 cait looking at bugs filed in 2014 on bugzilla 12:07 * cait is time travelling today 11:58 eythian so far, I'm mostly waiting for someone else to show up so I can go over something I want to do with him. 11:57 cait hope a quiet day at least 11:55 eythian I am, not a holiday here. NL is very stingy about holidays 11:53 cait are you at work today? public holiday here, but only in 3 states 11:53 cait eythian: got oyur later, thx :) 11:49 cait tcohen: ^ 11:49 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=24350 blocker, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Can't place holds 11:49 cait bug 24350 11:49 cait properly 'holds are broken' 11:47 eythian how mean? Like, just a bit irritated or properly aggressive? 11:42 cait someone else too? 11:42 cait hm I get a mean error trying to access /cgi-bin/koha/reserve/request.pl?biblionumber=1 11:38 * cait waves 10:30 Bruck . But, that does not seem to have helped. Please advise. 10:30 Bruck I have just recently upgraded to 17.05 from 16.05 and when I try to edit items on Koha, it throws the following error "Can't call method "branchname" on an undefined value at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Biblio.pm line 1627". I search the archive online saw the advice to update the two fields<https://lists.katipo.co.nz/public/koha/2017-September/048966.html> (UPDATE items SET homebranch='LIB', holdingbranch='LIB'). I have done that and did the 10:28 Bruck thanks 10:27 eythian Bruck: huginn` is a robot, the channel is usually active but Monday morning (my time at least) probably isn't the busiest. 10:15 Bruck thanks huginn 10:13 huginn` eythian: The operation succeeded. 10:13 eythian @later tell cait happy new year :) 10:08 wahanui i already had it that way, huginn`. 10:08 huginn` Bruck: I'll give you the answer just as soon as RDA is ready 10:08 Bruck @inlibro Hi, just wanted to check if this chat room is working as i do not see any activities 09:25 dersmon or do i have to first search name variants in the authorities, and then navigate to bibliographic records from there? 09:24 dersmon is it possible to include all authority data in my normal catalogue searches? 09:11 dersmon hi * 08:19 sophie_m 8-) 08:12 magnuse merci boucoup and the same to you! 08:12 sophie_m thanks magnuse, all the best for you and your family :) 08:11 magnuse happy new year sophie_m 08:11 * magnuse waves 08:05 sophie_m Hello #koha and happy new year !!! 08:01 alex_a Bonjour 07:52 marcelr hi #koha 07:39 fridolin hi there