Time  Nick                  Message
00:22 * oleonard            hoped tcohen would have left me a message filled with wisdom
00:53 mtompset              wizzyrea, Why yay hayley? Did hayley fix it?
00:55 mtompset              musical flashback for oleonard: https://youtu.be/xCorJG9mubk
00:55 mtompset              (Roxette's Joyride)
00:58 oleonard              I remember it well. What prompted that?
01:24 mtompset              "filled with wisdom"
01:24 mtompset              Don't need a book of wisdom. ;)
02:36 hayley                hahah yay hayley because hayley as first time release maintainer had her branch fail because of jenkins being sad, and then it was fixed by ashimema[m] :D
07:21 magnuse               @later tell mtompset did you know that the first koha conference/gathering in sweden was held at a hotel owned by the guy from Roxette?
07:21 huginn                magnuse: The operation succeeded.
07:21 magnuse               @later tell oleonard did you know that the first koha conference/gathering in sweden was held at a hotel owned by the guy from Roxette?
07:21 huginn                magnuse: The operation succeeded.
07:33 fridolin              bonjour
07:34 marcelr               hi #koha
07:39 reiveune              hello
07:57 alex_a                Bonjour
08:56 paxed                 is there ever going to be a push to move all the functionality from C4 to Koha?
08:58 paxed                 i am so discouraged by the standard "failing this because it should go into Koha, not C4" response, when all the code in question is in C4
09:00 marcelr               paxed: its a long way out of C4
09:00 Joubu                 bug 15449
09:00 huginn                Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15449 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, NEW , Move stuff to the Koha namespace
09:00 Joubu                 The patches I submit there usually take 1 year to be integrated into master
09:01 cait                  on the plus side... some major modules are gone already
09:01 Joubu                 only C4::Branches so far
09:01 cait                  I think ashimema[m] said to push for items next?
09:02 cait                  might misremember
09:02 cait                  ah i thought we had patrons too
09:02 paxed                 this code split personality is hampering dev
09:02 Joubu                 CRUD for patrons, yes
09:02 cait                  i wonder if we culd make the patches smaller / easier to test in a way
09:02 Joubu                 I do not think so
09:03 Joubu                 I tried with CRUD for items, but finally ended up removing half of the module.
09:04 Joubu                 paxed: which code are you refering to?
09:09 paxed                 Joubu: concrete bugs, or just in general? eg. bug 21559 or 21215
09:09 huginn                Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=21559 new feature, P5 - low, ---, pasi.kallinen, Failed QA , Rules for automatic framework codes
09:12 Joubu                 you can call C4 code from Koha, even if not recommended
09:12 Joubu                 * from the Koha:: namespace
09:14 Joubu                 paxed: about the different sub you added on bug 21215, take a look at Koha::AuthorisedValues, you will certainly find what you are look for
09:14 huginn                Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=21215 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, pasi.kallinen, Failed QA , Saved SQL reports code improvements
09:17 sunshine              Hi everyone, I have a question concerning the usage of elasticsearch with Koha 19.11.00-1 running on Debian Stretch (9.11). On a test system, I managed to install everything fine some time ago, but I wanted to start using elasticsearch on another system yesterday as well. However, some libcatmandu packages seem to be missing. I managed to install libcatmandu-perl, but libcatmandu-store-elasticsearch-perl is required.
09:17 sunshine              I could not find a suitable version for Stretch. Did I miss something here? Thanks in advance! :)
09:19 rkrimme1              In addition: It looks like the package is present in Debian Buster, and it looked like it was shipped from the Koha Debian Repo before, but is no longer there
09:20 rkrimme1              so, currently, it seems that there is no clean way to install this with koha on Debian 9
09:20 * cait                waves
09:20 rkrimme1              Hi cait!
09:20 rkrimme1              I finally started my irc client again
09:20 rkrimme1              ;)
09:20 cait                  I seem to remember a dicsussion about removing dependency on catmandu , but not sure what happened with it in the end
09:21 cait                  kidclamp: around?
09:21 rkrimme1              Well, it would be totally okay to remove this dependency from the koha repo if the target platform would be Debian Buster I think
09:22 cait                  you might want to ask again a bit later today - kidclamp (US) or tcohen (Argentinia) might know the answer
09:23 rkrimme1              Yeah, thats fine
09:23 cait                  bit early for them still
09:23 sunshine              that would be great, thanks
09:24 sunshine              we could also consider upgrading to Buster otherwise, but lets see
09:25 cait                  i think there was an issue with newest debian - bug 24167
09:25 huginn                Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=24167 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , We should support installation on Debian 10
09:26 cait                  so probably better to stay off debian 10 for now
09:26 rkrimme1              I always have the feeling you know _all_ the bugs.
09:26 sunshine              thats what we thought about half a year ago, just stay safe with debian 9
09:27 cait                  I have a strange memory for bugs, but certain topics have me lost for sure
09:30 cait                  bug 19983 had the discussion about catmandu i think
09:30 huginn                Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19983 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, CLOSED FIXED, Switch single-column templates to Bootstrap grid: Authorities
09:30 cait                  sorry, typo
09:30 cait                  bug 19893
09:30 huginn                Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19893 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, glasklas, RESOLVED FIXED, Alternative optimized indexing for Elasticsearch
09:32 cait                  it's a bit of a long read, not sure what the final result was tbh
09:35 sunshine              thanks a lot, i'll have a look at it
09:37 cait                  it might be too old - in 18.11 already. hope the experts show up soon
09:41 sunshine              but it mentions the same (old) catmandu-store-elasticsearch version I somehow got on one of the systems
09:42 sunshine              but we're not in a hurry, just started testing ES again :)
09:52 Joubu                 sunshine: I am using 9.11 and I libcatmandu-perl and libcatmandu-store-elasticsearch-perl are installed without any issues
09:56 sunshine              Joubu: On which OS is your setup running? And when did you start using ES/the libcatmandu packages?
09:58 sunshine              Funnily, on one of the two servers where I installed ES maybe 3 months ago, everything is fine too. Something must have changed with a more recent version of Koha (or something else?)
09:59 Joubu                 It's a fresh install, using docker containers.
10:00 Joubu                 ES is running on a separate container, but the 2 packages are installed on the debian 9.11 where Koha is running on
10:02 Joubu                 sunshine: http://paste.koha-community.org/18760
10:15 sunshine              Hm, that's weird. The output on my well-functioning server is quite similar, but I don't see why they don't exist on the other one
10:16 nlegrand              a good day
10:17 Joubu                 sunshine: double check /etc/apt/sources.list.d/koha.list
10:19 sunshine              its identical on both (deb http://debian.koha-community.org/koha stable main)
10:21 sunshine              i feel like I'm missing something obvious here..
10:54 tcohen                morning all
10:56 marcelr               hi tcohen
10:57 marcelr               bug 24274 needs a signoff ;) easy
10:57 huginn                Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=24274 normal, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Needs Signoff , New installations should not contain field 01e Coded field error (RLIN)
12:01 kidclamp              We stopped using catmandu for indexing, but it's still used for interacting with es I believe
12:01 kidclamp              There is a koha-elasticsearch package that contains all the needed modules
12:03 marcelr               hi kidclamp
12:03 marcelr               still having fun with es ?
12:06 kidclamp              Just don't ask about authorities
12:07 marcelr               wouldnt dare
12:10 kidclamp              :-)
12:19 cait                  sunshine: did you find your solution yet?
12:19 cait                  rkrimme1: pling
12:28 eythian               hi
12:42 cait                  hi eythian
12:43 tcohen                lets bundle all the dependencies  on build time \o/
12:47 marcelr               thx tcohen++
12:48 tcohen                thanks to you
12:48 tcohen                I always hated that
12:48 tcohen                :-D
12:48 tcohen                I might have filed a bug for that a well
12:49 marcelr               couldnt find it
12:49 tcohen                maybe I only commented somewhere
12:49 tcohen                anyways
12:49 tcohen                thanks :-D
12:55 sunshine              kidclamp: sorry, was off for a while. Thats a good hint with the koha-elasticsearch package, for some reason I could not find it. But if the missing catmandu package is in there, I'll find a way to get it, thanks!
14:02 caroline_crazycatlady good morning everyone!
14:03 marcelr               o/
14:05 cait                  good morning
14:05 cait                  sunshine: i guess most of us have been there...
14:19 magnuse               hiya caroline_crazycatlady of the long name, marcelr, cait
14:19 marcelr               o/
14:20 marcelr               magnuse: we have a field 01e removal in SO
14:20 marcelr               you asked it in 2009
14:22 oleonard              Hi all
14:22 marcelr               hi oleonard
14:22 wahanui               hi oleopard
14:24 magnuse               marcelr: yay!
14:32 cait                  hi magnuse
14:41 oleonard              In my opinion Roxette's "Joyride" has not aged well.
14:53 oleonard              I wonder if it would make sense to have the API to return some data in a formatted version (in addition to the 'raw' version). Then we could return dates formatted according to the system pref.
16:08 reiveune              bye
16:08 reiveune              à demain
16:16 cait                  ashimema[m]: Joubu: bug 24278
16:16 huginn                Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=24278 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Replace Locale::Currency::Format because it's buggy
17:45 wizzyrea              hi
17:45 oleonard              Hi wizzyrea
18:07 koha-jenkins          Project Koha_19.11_D8 build #7: SUCCESS in 31 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.11_D8/7/
18:13 koha-jenkins          Project Koha_19.11_D9 build #8: SUCCESS in 47 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.11_D9/8/
18:22 koha-jenkins          Yippee, build fixed!
18:22 wahanui               Congratulations!
18:22 koha-jenkins          Project Koha_19.11_U18 build #8: FIXED in 52 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.11_U18/8/
18:44 kidclamp              oleonard: "in a wonderful balloon"
18:45 oleonard              What?
18:46 kidclamp              it's the best part of joy ride
18:47 oleonard              I get it mixed up with Jane Wiedlin's "Rush hour"
18:48 * kidclamp            goes to get another earworm
19:57 oleonard              See y'all later
22:14 alexbuckley           hi kathryn :)
22:14 kathryn               hi alexbuckley and all :)
22:29 koha-jenkins          Project Koha_19.11_D8 build #8: SUCCESS in 34 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.11_D8/8/
22:42 koha-jenkins          Project Koha_19.11_U18 build #9: UNSTABLE in 42 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.11_U18/9/
22:45 koha-jenkins          Project Koha_19.11_D9 build #9: SUCCESS in 44 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.11_D9/9/
22:46 wizzyrea              mōrena tāngata Aotearoa
22:46 hayley                mōrena!
22:48 alexbuckley           mōrena wizzyrea!
23:01 kathryn               kia ora wizzyrea
23:02 kathryn               it is total 4 seasons in one day stuff in wellington today - ferries cancelled, and bicyclists nearly getting blown into the sea this morning, and now sunshine
23:05 koha-jenkins          Project Koha_19.11_D8 build #9: SUCCESS in 35 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.11_D8/9/
23:13 caroline_catlady      rangi, can you help with this merge request? https://gitlab.com/koha-community/koha-manual/merge_requests/303
23:14 caroline_catlady      I have to rebase, but I'm not sure how
23:14 caroline_catlady      Last time there was a button to rebase and then I could merg
23:15 caroline_catlady      maybe this one is just too behind
23:16 rangi                 ahh right, yep ill have a go
23:17 caroline_catlady      It's such a small change, but it requires a lot of work, lol!
23:21 rangi                 done
23:21 caroline_catlady      thx! rangi++
23:22 caroline_catlady      There's another one I think ashimema[m] wanted you to look at
23:22 caroline_catlady      https://gitlab.com/koha-community/koha-manual/merge_requests/295
23:22 caroline_catlady      See the comments
23:23 koha-jenkins          Project Koha_19.11_U18 build #10: STILL UNSTABLE in 40 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.11_U18/10/
23:23 caroline_catlady      but it's not urgent or anything :)
23:24 rangi                 cool will take a look
23:24 caroline_catlady      thx so much!
23:25 caroline_catlady      I'm going home, have a good afternoon all!
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23:50 koha-jenkins          Project Koha_18.11_U18 build #207: SUCCESS in 44 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_18.11_U18/207/