Time  Nick                  Message
23:08 wizzyrea              for whatever we are cheering for I want to participate in cheering!
23:08 wizzyrea              yay hayley!!
22:47 koha-jenkins          Project Koha_18.11_D9 build #216: FIXED in 38 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_18.11_D9/216/
22:47 wahanui               Congratulations!
22:47 koha-jenkins          Yippee, build fixed!
22:44 hayley                Yayyyyy
22:43 aleisha               \o/ hayley :D
22:42 koha-jenkins          Project Koha_18.11_U18 build #206: FIXED in 41 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_18.11_U18/206/
22:42 wahanui               Congratulations!
22:42 koha-jenkins          Yippee, build fixed!
22:35 koha-jenkins          Project Koha_18.11_D8 build #214: FIXED in 29 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_18.11_D8/214/
22:35 wahanui               Congratulations!
22:35 koha-jenkins          Yippee, build fixed!
22:08 caroline_catlady      anyone know how I can skip the import of data during the Web installer? I keep getting time outs from my browser OR error messages because the data already exists
22:07 caroline_catlady      you too
22:06 ashimema[m]           Have a good one my #koha friends
22:06 ashimema[m]           And on that note.. I'm clocking off
22:06 ashimema[m]           đŸ˜€
22:03 caroline_catlady      https://media.giphy.com/media/DUtVdGeIU8lmo/giphy.gif
22:03 tcohen                I cannot debug the logs atm
22:03 tcohen                and all checks correct
22:03 tcohen                the nodes have disk space
22:03 tcohen                looks like restarting it was enough
22:00 ashimema[m]           poor thing
21:58 tcohen                what did you all do to poor jenkins?
21:57 tcohen                just got back home
21:57 wahanui               hello, tcohen
21:57 tcohen                hola
21:53 ashimema[m]           he's taking a quick look now
21:52 ashimema[m]           I poked tomas via slack :)
21:51 hayley                that's okay!
21:51 koha-jenkins          Project Koha_18.11_U18 build #205: STILL FAILING in 12 sec: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_18.11_U18/205/
21:51 ashimema[m]           so.. we do need tcohen :(
21:51 ashimema[m]           I don't have the access to kick that I think
21:51 ashimema[m]           looks like the nodes are all down and the master is stuck in a loop
21:51 ashimema[m]           so.. Jenkins
21:50 aleisha               ashimema++
21:50 lisettelatah          ashimema++
21:50 caroline_catlady      ashimema++
21:50 koha-jenkins          Project Koha_18.11_D8 build #213: STILL FAILING in 26 sec: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_18.11_D8/213/
21:50 hayley                thanks ashimema[m]!
21:50 davidnind             ashimema++
21:50 ashimema[m]           thanks everyone
21:50 huginn                Log:            http://meetings.koha-community.org/2019/development_irc_meeting_18_december_2019.2019-12-18-21.00.log.html
21:50 huginn                Minutes (text): http://meetings.koha-community.org/2019/development_irc_meeting_18_december_2019.2019-12-18-21.00.txt
21:50 huginn                Minutes:        http://meetings.koha-community.org/2019/development_irc_meeting_18_december_2019.2019-12-18-21.00.html
21:50 huginn                Meeting ended Wed Dec 18 21:50:20 2019 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)
21:50 ashimema[m]           #endmeeting
21:50 ashimema[m]           #info Next meeting: 15 January 2020, 14 UTC
21:49 davidnind             +1
21:49 ashimema[m]           that suit?
21:49 ashimema[m]           Next meeting: 15 January 2020, 14 UTC
21:49 koha-jenkins          Project Koha_18.11_D9 build #215: STILL FAILING in 12 sec: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_18.11_D9/215/
21:48 ashimema[m]           so
21:48 ashimema[m]           nd the general meeting is a later one I believe so the 'flop' to the earlier time for the dev meeting makes sense I think
21:48 ashimema[m]           so yeah.. 15th works
21:48 ashimema[m]           there's a general meeting on the 8th
21:47 ashimema[m]           I was just thinking the same
21:47 koha-jenkins          Project Koha_18.11_U18 build #204: STILL FAILING in 12 sec: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_18.11_U18/204/
21:47 davidnind             15th January? (unless you want the 1st of Jan !)
21:45 ashimema[m]           #topic Set time of next meeting
21:45 ashimema[m]           ok.. shall we move on to setting the time of the next meeting
21:44 ashimema[m]           rather than just introducing more pain
21:44 ashimema[m]           Yeah.. I'd like to make it a good habbit people get into..
21:44 koha-jenkins          Project Koha_18.11_D9 build #214: STILL FAILING in 12 sec: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_18.11_D9/214/
21:44 aleisha               but yes can be brought back up in jan!
21:43 aleisha               sorry im a bit late but i think it would be cool if it became custom to update those docs. extra work for sure but helpful for everyone and could just become habit after some time
21:43 hayley                ++
21:42 ashimema[m]           lets leave those as idea's then and bring it back up next meeting in January
21:41 davidnind             even an attachment to the bug would be helpful, however it is written
21:41 koha-jenkins          Project Koha_18.11_U18 build #203: ABORTED in 29 sec: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_18.11_U18/203/
21:40 davidnind             once we get through the backlog... :-D
21:40 ashimema[m]           indeed
21:40 koha-jenkins          Project Koha_18.11_D8 build #212: STILL FAILING in 12 sec: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_18.11_D8/212/
21:40 davidnind             in an ideal world it would be nice to get docs updated soon after bugs are pushed to master , while everything is fresh in everyone's minds
21:39 ashimema[m]           one of the things I do occasionally for bywater bugs for instance is that I request their educators write docs for a bug before I go ahead and do a final QA run on it.
21:39 koha-jenkins          Project Koha_18.11_D9 build #213: STILL FAILING in 33 sec: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_18.11_D9/213/
21:39 lisettelatah          If there are clear guidelines for what it should do, we might be able to get more people to do signoffs.
21:38 ashimema[m]           indeed.. all QA is 'guidelines' anyway.. so the team won't allow it to hold up code without good reason ;)
21:38 hayley                I agree, but then I don't have the QA/Documentation experience
21:37 ashimema[m]           it also makes testing and qa simpler if we have a clear manual for what the feature is meant to do
21:37 caroline_catlady      docs is still very behind, but if we can be more involved during the process maybe we could be of help?
21:37 ashimema[m]           and it's a massive task for you guys to write all the docs for everything new in the last days/weeks before release
21:37 ashimema[m]           I really don't like enhancements and new features going in without any form of documentation at release time
21:36 koha-jenkins          Project Koha_18.11_U18 build #202: STILL FAILING in 12 sec: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_18.11_U18/202/
21:36 ashimema[m]           not sure it's heavier as much as it's just shifting the 'when' for doing it..
21:35 ashimema[m]           hmm..
21:35 koha-jenkins          Project Koha_18.11_D8 build #211: STILL FAILING in 30 sec: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_18.11_D8/211/
21:35 caroline_catlady      I'm ambivalent... I fear it would make the process heavier
21:35 ashimema[m]           #idea Should we require documentation merge requests for certain bug categories as part of the QA process?
21:34 ashimema[m]           #idea Should we require summaries for release notes for certain categories of bugs as part of the QA process?
21:34 davidnind             can propose something for the next meeting as a coding guideline for the next meeting
21:34 koha-jenkins          Project Koha_18.11_D9 build #212: STILL FAILING in 12 sec: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_18.11_D9/212/
21:33 ashimema[m]           #idea Should we add some guidlines for writing good summaries for the release notes
21:33 davidnind             if there isn't I'm happy to have a go
21:33 ashimema[m]           #topic Review of coding guidelines
21:32 ashimema[m]           hmm.. no formal guide yet.. but perhaps we should create one
21:32 davidnind             great!
21:32 hayley                is there a guide to writing a good release note?
21:32 ashimema[m]           awesome
21:31 lisettelatah          I try to add release notes as I see things are PQA. If you want to let me know if you think something needs release notes I'm happy to help with that.
21:31 ashimema[m]           so...
21:31 ashimema[m]           this sort of ties into the next topic
21:31 caroline_catlady      loved the preferences and reports notes :)
21:31 koha-jenkins          Project Koha_18.11_U18 build #201: STILL FAILING in 31 sec: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_18.11_U18/201/
21:31 ashimema[m]           :)
21:31 ashimema[m]           in the last release I tried to ensure all new features had a good summary, then I picked as many enahncements as I could get through and finally I went through looking at bugs for preference changes and db changes that would need report updates
21:30 caroline_catlady      I'll try to keep an eye on release notes, and let you know ashimema[m] if there's any bug that should be described more
21:30 ashimema[m]           any thoughts on what to concentrate on with that regard
21:30 koha-jenkins          Project Koha_18.11_D8 build #210: STILL FAILING in 12 sec: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_18.11_D8/210/
21:30 ashimema[m]           very good idea to raise it again though.
21:30 davidnind             that helps when working what the issue is about, sometimes it can be hard to work out what the change is about and waht documentation changes are required
21:30 * ashimema[m]         did sort of try to do it whilst going along last cycle.. but struggled to keep up
21:29 caroline_catlady      +1
21:29 koha-jenkins          Project Koha_18.11_D9 build #211: STILL FAILING in 34 sec: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_18.11_D9/211/
21:29 davidnind             should we try and get release note text added once the bug is pushed to master, rather than trying to do all at once nearer the end?
21:29 caroline_catlady      (my morning time sorry)
21:29 caroline_catlady      There was the message from this morning regarding translations
21:28 davidnind             I'll post a summary on the issue about the translation process, and then we need tod ecide what to do I guess
21:28 ashimema[m]           ok.. lets move on then unless anyone else wants to take the floor and raise anything.. now's your chance
21:28 caroline_catlady      it's slower this week at the office, trying to catch up on docs work
21:27 ashimema[m]           brill
21:27 davidnind             not at this stage, caroline_catlady is adding all the bugs to our task list in taiga
21:27 ashimema[m]           as in.. hows the translations processes going.. do we need to tie it down any further... are you waiting on anyone for anything
21:27 ashimema[m]           anything you wish to raise regarding dev and documentation davidnind ?
21:26 koha-jenkins          Project Koha_18.11_U18 build #200: STILL FAILING in 12 sec: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_18.11_U18/200/
21:26 davidnind             always good to have a look around at what other projects are doing, and picking up ideas for improvement
21:26 ashimema[m]           conversation to date is summarised on that wiki page, please contribute your thoughts there or catch me here if you want to discus anything with a smaller audience before expanding it to the wider groups.
21:25 koha-jenkins          Project Koha_18.11_D8 build #209: STILL FAILING in 29 sec: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_18.11_D8/209/
21:25 ashimema[m]           We discusses release cycle cadence, continious integration/deployment practices, expiriment and stabalise and various other practices..
21:25 hayley                ashimema[m] sounds good!
21:24 davidnind             ashimema++
21:24 koha-jenkins          Project Koha_18.11_D9 build #210: STILL FAILING in 12 sec: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_18.11_D9/210/
21:24 ashimema[m]           To summarise, with all the things going on the library world at the moment (FOLIO, Acquisitions and Mergers) I think it's important to swing around and ask ourselves as a community what our strengths and weaknesses are and if we can improve anything.
21:22 ashimema[m]           #link https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_Versioning_-_Next Cycles Discussion
21:22 ashimema[m]           #info So, we raised the idea of shaking up release cycles during the last general meeting.. Please take a look at the minutes and contribute you're thoughts to the wiki page
21:21 koha-jenkins          Project Koha_18.11_U18 build #199: STILL FAILING in 32 sec: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_18.11_U18/199/
21:21 ashimema[m]           #topic General development discussion
21:20 * ashimema[m]         is looking forward to well rested QA people in the nw year wo ar super keen to test all the tihngs
21:20 ashimema[m]           #info QA is moving along, lots more to do, but it's nice to see the pace picking up again.
21:19 hayley                oh thank you! :D
21:19 ashimema[m]           I'm happy to take a look at Jenkins too once the meeting is closed ;)
21:19 ashimema[m]           [off] no worries
21:19 ashimema[m]           #info Katrin sends her apologies, not feeling well this evening
21:19 hayley                sorry for the interruptions ashimema[m] :)
21:19 huginn                hayley: The operation succeeded.
21:19 hayley                @later tell tcohen hi, are you able to take a look at jenkins? it is having issues: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/view/Koha%2018.11/
21:18 ashimema[m]           #topic Updates from the QA team
21:18 ashimema[m]           #info Maintanence packaging may be delayed as we'e not managed to contact the packaging manager, tarballs will be available on the 23rd with packages to follow
21:17 hayley                oh then no ashimema[m] no reply from him yet
21:16 hayley                jenkins is having issues...
21:15 ashimema[m]           mtj around?
21:15 koha-jenkins          Project Koha_18.11_D8 build #208: STILL FAILING in 32 sec: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_18.11_D8/208/
21:15 ashimema[m]           he was copied into the scheduling round robin
21:15 hayley                *touch
21:14 hayley                no I haven't, have not been in tough with him yet however
21:14 koha-jenkins          Project Koha_18.11_D9 build #209: STILL FAILING in 12 sec: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_18.11_D9/209/
21:14 ashimema[m]           I've not seen any replies from mirko.. have you hayley?
21:14 ashimema[m]           good question
21:13 davidnind             Is packaging going to cause any problems for the maintenance releases?
21:13 hayley                thank you ashimema[m] I have had a lot of support so thank you everyone :)
21:13 ashimema[m]           You're doing great hayley, thanks for taking on the role :)
21:12 ashimema[m]           #info 19.05 and 19.11 are scheduled for release on 23rd too
21:12 ashimema[m]           #info 18.11 is on track to be packaged up on 20th when I go on holiday and released on 23rd - just ironing out the last failures/instabilities now
21:12 hayley                please ignore the chaos :)
21:11 ashimema[m]           thanks :)
21:11 ashimema[m]           I think it may just be you tonight hayley
21:11 koha-jenkins          Project Koha_18.11_U18 build #198: FAILURE in 31 sec: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_18.11_U18/198/
21:11 hayley                18.11 is on track to be packaged up on 20th when I go on holiday and released on 23rd - just ironing out the last failures/instabilities now
21:11 ashimema[m]           * rmaints?
21:11 ashimema[m]           rmaints
21:11 ashimema[m]           rmaints is talljoy, lucas, hayley
21:10 wahanui               ashimema[m]: I forgot rmaints
21:10 ashimema[m]           wahanui forget rmaints
21:10 koha-jenkins          Project Koha_18.11_D8 build #207: FAILURE in 12 sec: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_18.11_D8/207/
21:10 ashimema[m]           ooh..
21:10 wahanui               rmaints is fridolin, lucas and wizzyrea
21:10 ashimema[m]           rmaints?
21:10 ashimema[m]           #topic Updates from the Release Maintainers
21:09 ashimema[m]           #info Cycle has had a good start, lots of bugs working their way through the SO/QA process, great to see a new name on the QA team :)
21:09 koha-jenkins          Project Koha_18.11_D9 build #208: FAILURE in 35 sec: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_18.11_D9/208/
21:08 ashimema[m]           #topic Update from the Release manager
21:07 hayley                :)
21:07 ashimema[m]           Anyone have anything they'd like to add?
21:07 ashimema[m]           #info Bugfix only period will be coming to an end shortly, we will start working on pushing enhancements from early January starting with the existing PQA queue and then working through some of the challenging and ambitious bugs.. refactoring efforts for example.. giving us a chance to thoroughly test and fix issues before release
21:05 ashimema[m]           #info Stable releases are on their way, thankyou to the new RMaints
21:04 ashimema[m]           #topic Announcements
21:03 inlibro               blou: #info Philippe Blouin, Solutions inLibro, Montréal
21:03 ashimema[m]           still nice to have you :)
21:03 ashimema[m]           oh, not so bad
21:03 hayley                thank you! happy to make it!
21:02 ashimema[m]           welcome along, nice to have you guys
21:02 aleisha               10am :)
21:02 ashimema[m]           is it not darn early in NZ?
21:02 lisettelatah          #info Lisette Scheer, Idaho, USA
21:01 davidnind             #info David Nind, Wellington NZ
21:01 aleisha               #info Aleisha Amohia, Catalyst IT, Wellington NZ
21:01 hayley                #info Hayley Mapley, Catalyst IT, Wellington NZ
21:01 ashimema[m]           #info Martin Renvoize, PTFS Europe, UK
21:01 ashimema[m]           Please introduce yourselves with #info to appear in the minutes
21:00 ashimema[m]           #topic Introductions
21:00 huginn                The meeting name has been set to 'development_irc_meeting_18_december_2019'
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21:00 huginn                Meeting started Wed Dec 18 21:00:45 2019 UTC.  The chair is ashimema[m]. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
21:00 ashimema[m]           #startmeeting Development IRC meeting 18 December 2019
20:36 ashimema[m]           i tried to just distil what was said at the general meeting into bullet points
20:35 cait                  good night!
20:35 cait                  sorry, going ot miss the meeting today
20:35 ashimema[m]           ta
20:34 caroline_catlady      I sent the link over to the team to see if they have comments
20:31 ashimema[m]           not had a great deal of time to further that
20:31 ashimema[m]           https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_Versioning_-_Next
20:31 caroline_catlady      ok, thanks!
20:30 * ashimema[m]         is tired
20:30 ashimema[m]           only in so much as pointing out the wiki page I started creating to collect ideas and ask for contributions
20:16 caroline_catlady      ashimema[m]: will you talk again about the cycle?
20:13 hayley                hehe
20:12 ashimema[m]           seems so
20:12 caroline_catlady      we scared them
20:10 caroline_catlady      50 minutes, 1 hours... same same but different
20:10 ashimema[m]           in 50 mins.. unless my calendar is wrong
20:10 ashimema[m]           here
20:10 caroline_catlady      Jessedhammu: it is here, but in an hour
20:09 Jessedhammu           Where is koha development meet happening???
19:55 mtompset              Now to wait for the "My OPAC is the the wrong language now" :)
19:54 mtompset              wheee.... zh, fr, th, and ms!
19:20 wizzyrea              hi :)
18:42 mtompset              Greetings, wizzyrea :)
18:42 mtompset              Thanks for the ideas/feedback, tcohen. Good to see everyone here. Greetings, Joubu tcohen ashimema[m]
18:04 ashimema[m]           It was stock rotation rota stages management
17:54 * ashimema[m]         thinks it might have been stock rotation.. could we not follow that example?
17:54 * ashimema[m]         seems to remember implementing a re-orderable list somewhere which didn't require full page reloads
17:18 Joubu                 however there is something more or less ready I think, tcohen knows
17:18 Joubu                 I have been waiting for that answer for years
17:16 * oleonard            suspects Joubu has thoughts
17:16 Joubu                 :)
17:15 oleonard              The API returns some data which isn't end-user friendly, like borrowernumber and itemnumber. What is the best way to translate that data into something useful?
17:14 tcohen                oleonard: shoot
17:02 huginn                Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=23501 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, ASSIGNED , Drag-and-drop hold reordering in the staff client
17:02 oleonard              tcohen: I'm back on Bug 23501 and have a question if you have a moment
17:01 oleonard              Hi tcohen
16:53 tcohen                it didn't get installed
16:53 tcohen                somehow
16:53 tcohen                just in case
16:53 tcohen                and there's a install_plugins.pl script in the devel dir
16:52 tcohen                mtompset: MARC checker has an extra dependency that is not pulled automatically by koha-common
16:49 mtompset              ah... that's if plack is enabled.
16:45 mtompset              Config variable ${instance} is not defined
16:44 mtompset              I think I noticed a strange error in the apache log...
16:43 mtompset              out of curiousity...
16:40 mtompset              a field or two didn't get created.
16:40 mtompset              the upgrade was bumpy.
16:38 * oleonard            gets sympathetic whiplash
16:36 mtompset              I just upgraded from 3.20 to 19.05
16:36 mtompset              really? That would be handy to know about.
16:35 wizzyrea              i thought magnuse had something like that
16:33 mtompset              and show differences for existing ones.
16:33 mtompset              something that would allow you to pluck missing xpaths into your existing koha-conf.
16:33 mtompset              do we have a koha-conf upgrade script?
16:32 caroline_catlady      +1
16:32 mtompset              caroline_catlady++ # thanks for that link.
16:31 mtompset              So I guess it really is if the plug in is busted.
16:31 mtompset              okay... cover flow installed and lists.
16:28 oleonard              mtompset: I tried to add the Koha MARC Record Checker and it didn't work
16:27 wizzyrea              would you consider it a bug to require a notice for every transport in use, otherwise the script stops?
16:27 caroline_catlady      Not everything's in there yet, but getting there
16:27 caroline_catlady      :)
16:27 oleonard              That's neat caroline_catlady !
16:27 caroline_catlady      to find plugins ^
16:26 caroline_catlady      https://koha-resources.inlibro.net/
16:26 oleonard              mtompset: I tried that recently and found errors in the log which suggested the plugin was the problem
16:26 mtompset              finding kpz's to test is a pain.
16:25 mtompset              and the plugins-data table is empty.
16:25 mtompset              but then it says no plugins are installed.
16:25 mtompset              It uploads the plug.
16:25 mtompset              but plugins seem to be half-broken?
16:25 mtompset              Just upgraded koha -- finally.
16:25 mtompset              It has.
16:24 oleonard              Hi mtompset, been a while
16:24 mtompset              Greetings, #koha.
16:07 oleonard              tcohen around?
16:04 reiveune              bye
14:55 cait                  so we would show his until we figure out how to do it from the main manual repo
14:54 cait                  if we want something quick... we could just have Bernardo push his generated files to the website storage
14:54 caroline_crazycatlady bbl
14:53 cait                  i think we stil didn't fully agree on how to
14:53 ashimema[m]           you can of course just go ahead and do a manual merge this once to get it updated and keep your person happy
14:52 ashimema[m]           I think we're very nearly there.. just needs some final chasing through but I've lost track of who needs chasing to do what
14:52 ashimema[m]           see that thread for details of where we're currently at
14:52 ashimema[m]           https://gitlab.com/koha-community/koha-manual/issues/13
14:51 caroline_catlady      I agree
14:50 ashimema[m]           we should automate it rather than asking them to do it
14:49 caroline_catlady      (they had one session on Monday, so I think that's where the complaint is from)
14:49 caroline_catlady      maybe they could push after the session
14:49 caroline_catlady      I know the france team do translating sessions regularly
14:48 caroline_catlady      ok... should all language administrators be able to push the manual changes?
14:48 ashimema[m]           there's an ongoing discussion in a gitlab issue I believe
14:48 ashimema[m]           what I'd like to see if the public manuals receive the nightly translations whenever anything changes
14:47 ashimema[m]           as for pushing those changes to the public manual, that's a manual process of merging in the changes at release time still.. which may not have happened since they translated.
14:47 caroline_catlady      aaah...
14:47 ashimema[m]           my understanding is that the language get built nightly but only published on bernardo's server which isn't linked to from anywhere so you have to know it exists..
14:46 caroline_catlady      yup, waiting for that info and I will let you know as soon as I have an answer
14:46 ashimema[m]           which manual (koha version), and when did they look and when did they do their translations
14:28 caroline_catlady      I admit I'm a biut out of the loop on that particular issue
14:28 caroline_catlady      I just got a message on the French (from France) translation mailing list saying they don't see their translations in the manual, do we know if bernardo has implemented the automatic updates?
14:24 huginn                Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13193 critical, P3, ---, joonas.kylmala, ASSIGNED , Make Memcached usage fork safe
14:24 kohaputti             ashimema[m], I don't have the skills to re-implement locking for Bug 13193 so if I'm going to do something it should be debian packaging. Have you heard anything from Mirko?
14:20 magnuse               hiya caroline_catlady and oleonard
14:07 oleonard              Hi caroline_catlady
14:06 caroline_catlady      hi everyone!
13:36 eythian               hi oleopard
13:22 wahanui               hi oleopard
13:22 cait                  hi oleonard
13:21 oleonard              Hi #koha
13:03 vfernandes            we need to create some mecanism to improve this methods
13:03 vfernandes            update_index waits until indexing is finished
13:01 vfernandes            update_index_brackground method in Koha::SearchEngine::Elasticsearch::Indexer points to update_index
12:56 vfernandes            batch actions are too slow...
12:56 vfernandes            any idea how to put ES indexing running in background?
12:04 cait                  she might
12:04 magnuse               i bet calire is eating cake!
12:00 vfernandes            hi #koha
11:56 wahanui               well, calire is playing with jquery to keep myself awake XD
11:56 tcohen                where's calire
11:53 magnuse               ¡hola tcohen!
11:53 tcohen                morning #koha
10:48 cait                  let me know if I can do something
10:48 cait                  going out for lunch for a bit, will be back later
10:32 ashimema[m]           nope.. he doesn't
10:32 ashimema[m]           he may already have permission.. I can check that
10:32 ashimema[m]           ooh.. Lars used to contribute to it
10:31 cait                  i am not sure about the rounding issue - but the wrong smbols would be a really easy fix
10:31 cait                  i am not sure i could manage it - but i can report our known bugs once this is moving forward
10:30 ashimema[m]           I've asked him to remind me what the process is..
10:30 ashimema[m]           it's in effect becoming a second author on the module.. gaining permission to take it over for maintanence
10:30 cait                  not sure what that is
10:29 cait                  maybe i missed it back then
10:27 ashimema[m]           want me to ask mst for a commit bit?
10:27 ashimema[m]           well.. it's had one for a while given that the bug you hughligted was reported 8 years ago
10:26 cait                  i don't remember it having an issue tracker last time either - but there is now one
10:26 cait                  yeah i ws looking into doing a merge/pull request
10:25 ashimema[m]           interestingly though.. it's fairly high up the cpan river :(
10:24 ashimema[m]           there's no repo for it linked on metacpan :(
10:23 cait                  the module is not overly complicated, someone who accepts changes woudl be nice
10:23 ashimema[m]           it falls under most of the guidlines for how to take over a module
10:23 ashimema[m]           I could probably get you a maintainer bit on that module if you like cait ;)
10:23 cait                  not nice
10:23 cait                  but therounding is especially annoying - working around it now by adding invalid iso codes
10:22 cait                  we also have had to add "false currency codes" because some of the currencies have the wrong symbol
10:22 cait                  overall
10:22 cait                  i think it would be good to have only one way doing things
10:22 cait                  TRY has frac_len = 0, which turns into "round to 0 decimal"
10:21 Joubu                 and use the default currency defined in Koha
10:21 Joubu                 Koha::Number::Price, that use Number::Format
10:21 cait                  https://rt.cpan.org/Public/Bug/Display.html?id=71623
10:21 cait                  but it doesn't help... because i can't fix it
10:21 cait                  i think i know where the error is actually
10:21 Joubu                 we should actually use the way we format price in the template
10:21 ashimema[m]           grr.. no Changes file :(
10:21 cait                  but don't have a reference server to check
10:20 cait                  i think we caught the newest version then
10:20 cait                  the problem started exactly the day after our debian update - went unnoticed for a while
10:20 ashimema[m]           I was just thinking that
10:20 cait                  debian update
10:20 ashimema[m]           indeed
10:19 Joubu                 you should not get a different behavior than before, the module has not been updated since 2015
10:18 cait                  it's used for the formatting of items.fines in overdue notices
10:18 cait                  it just printed rounded fines into notices...
10:17 cait                  I've emailed the author ages ago but nver heard back... any chance we could replace it?
10:17 cait                  hm we are noticing more andmore problems with /Locale::Currency::Format
10:14 Joubu                 I think it's a bug. Could you open a bug report?
10:09 mifantrax             it had to be set correctly to make openidwork
10:08 mifantrax             https://library.tcmi.edu
10:08 mifantrax             this is my value
10:07 mifantrax             it is correct, thank you, searching through similar issues that has seemed to be a common issue but it is setup correctly
10:06 Joubu                 mifantrax: double check the value of the system preferences OPACBaseURL
10:05 nlegrand              morgn
10:05 mifantrax             Thank a lot!
10:05 mifantrax             how could this be solved
10:05 mifantrax             Hi everyone, i need some help and guidance, we have setup  access to catalog after login, we use 2 authentication methods, username and password or google openid, when a patron opens a direct link to an item and authenticates with username and password they get to the item itself however with openid they get redirected to the opac main page
07:56 alex_a                Bonjour
07:47 magnuse               bonojur reiveune et #koha!
07:39 reiveune              hello
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00:24 kathryn               yup!
00:24 hayley                hey kathryn are you around? :)