Time  Nick             Message
21:18 huginn           Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=24196 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Advanced editor - Save silently fails on session timeout
21:18 corilynn         Bug 24196 makes me sad :(
21:12 huginn           wizzyrea: The operation succeeded.
21:12 wizzyrea         @later tell eythian so thank you
21:12 huginn           wizzyrea: The operation succeeded.
21:12 wizzyrea         @later tell eythian remember when you gave me that zine/comic on strace. I use that knowledge like every day now.
19:57 oleonard         See y'all later
19:37 oleonard         Doesn't help that I have a touch of the goldfish-brain
19:36 wizzyrea         oh boy yeah.
19:30 oleonard         Too many unfinished projects
18:04 AnnaBoten        There is no hunt right now! You can start a hunt with the 'start' command
18:04 tcohen           !bang
18:04 tcohen           around?
18:04 tcohen           ashimema:
17:27 liliputech_asu   evening koha :)
16:43 koha-jenkins     Project Koha_Master_U18 build #500: STILL UNSTABLE in 41 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U18/500/
16:39 liliputech_asu   ❤
16:37 qasim            <3
16:33 liliputech_asu   qasim: however, you were still right, it's written in there that you should use --create-db option :)
16:33 liliputech_asu   qasim -> https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_on_ubuntu_-_packages
16:32 qasim            I made a mistaken in following this tutorial https://www.academia.edu/38039443/Koha_Complete_Manual_in_Ubuntu_18.04 for the first time after always using koha-community tutorials which worked for me. Foolish of me
16:27 oleonard         wizzyrea: You'll have to program wahanui to do it for you
16:26 wizzyrea         bye*
16:26 wizzyrea         in 11 years, I've never been fast enough to tell that person by when they leave
16:26 reiveune         bye
16:26 ashimema         lol
16:25 wizzyrea         you end up covered in poo, and you get it all over your office at the same time!
16:25 koha-jenkins     Project Koha_Master_D9_MDB_Latest build #5: STILL UNSTABLE in 43 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9_MDB_Latest/5/
16:25 liliputech_asu   fun
16:25 wizzyrea         just why
16:25 wizzyrea         that's like taking off your shoe and beating your forehead with it, while it's covered in dog poo
16:24 wizzyrea         omggggg
16:24 liliputech_asu   wizzyrea: I think... there even used to be some BSD tutorials around here... foolish... :)
16:23 wizzyrea         don't intentionally give yourself a headache
16:23 wizzyrea         and just... just don't on centos
16:23 liliputech_asu   :)
16:23 liliputech_asu   if ubuntu : https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_on_ubuntu_-_packages
16:23 wizzyrea         a+ liliputech_asu :D
16:23 wizzyrea         ^ this is the canonical install doc
16:23 wizzyrea         https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_on_Debian
16:22 liliputech_asu   qasim: i'd say if you're using debian this one is reference : https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_on_Debian
16:22 wizzyrea         1s we have a community one, it's the best one
16:22 wizzyrea         yeah don't follow a rando tutorial
16:22 wizzyrea         ooh
16:21 liliputech_asu   qasim: which tutorial did you followed?
16:14 qasim            I'll reset my VM and try again from scratch
16:14 qasim            I was following a tutorial blindly
16:14 qasim            Appreciate it Arthur :) I think I screwed something up. `shell-init: error retrieving current directory: getcwd: cannot access parent directories: No such file or directory` I was doing the initial setup using the root user.. I should not have done that.
16:13 liliputech_asu   qasim: owf, u'r very welkom, I'll hang around for an hour or so if any help needed
16:12 qasim            Thank you for your help
16:12 qasim            I will give this a try
16:10 liliputech_asu   qasim: since you didn't had access to your instance, I *guess* there is not much data in there yet.
16:10 liliputech_asu   qasim: what you could do to solve your issue : remove "library" instance then recreate with koha-create but without --create-db option
16:09 liliputech_asu   qasim: I *guess* if you give --create-db option to koha-create, then it only creates the db.
16:04 qasim            hahaha
16:04 liliputech_asu   qasim: have some headache medicin ready at hand then :)
16:03 qasim            There is a lot of new terminology for me in the library systems landscape, still trying to wrap my head around it
16:03 liliputech_asu   qasim: let me check that script for u
16:03 qasim            You are correct.
16:03 liliputech_asu   speaking of "user" is a bit confusing in this context, I'd rather speak of "interfaces" (OPAC and STAFF) since some users could have access to both.
16:03 qasim            One more question, after running `sudo koha-create --create-db library` no apache config files have been created. So when I try to run `sudo a2ensite library` it gives me an error `ERROR: Site library does not exist!`. Even though the db has been created successfully
16:02 koha-jenkins     Project Koha_Master_D9 build #1026: UNSTABLE in 54 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9/1026/
16:01 liliputech_asu   u'r welkom, good luck with your installation!
16:01 qasim            That's nice, thank you :)
16:01 liliputech_asu   qasim: you could do that :)
16:00 qasim            So I can set the user "INTRA" to port 80 and the OPAC to port 8080 and that should be fine?
16:00 liliputech_asu   qasim: if you use ip-based installation then you still get two different virtualhosts for OPAC and STAFF interface. however they both reply to any hostname requested, hence you got to differentiate the two interfaces by another mean, listening port for example, that is.
15:42 koha-jenkins     Project Koha_Master_D8 build #557: STILL UNSTABLE in 30 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D8/557/
15:32 qasim            why do I need to use port 8080 for a IP based installation? Can't I use port 80 directly, so if anyone that is trying to access the domain name (private network), just directly gets directed to the Koha page instead?
15:11 koha-jenkins     Project Koha_Master_U18 build #499: UNSTABLE in 46 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U18/499/
15:11 koha-jenkins     Project Koha_Master_D9_My8 build #37: FAILURE in 1 min 55 sec: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9_My8/37/
15:09 koha-jenkins     Project Koha_Master_D9_MDB_Latest build #4: STILL UNSTABLE in 41 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9_MDB_Latest/4/
15:07 koha-jenkins     Project Koha_Master_D8 build #556: UNSTABLE in 39 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D8/556/
15:07 ashimema         back in a bit.
15:07 ashimema         ohh.. school run
15:06 wizzyrea         I will be GLORIOUSLY HAPPY to test that
15:06 wizzyrea         again, I'll test that for you
15:05 ashimema         maybe I'll do that for the staff client whilst I'm at it.. :)
15:05 ashimema         http://www.perladvent.org/2019/2019-12-03.html makes 2fa look like childs play
15:05 wizzyrea         :D
15:05 oleonard         I will cheer everyone on
15:04 ashimema         it's a great idea :)
15:04 wizzyrea         i will test it for you :)
15:04 ashimema         maybe I'll do it as a lunch time project
15:04 wizzyrea         THANKING YOU.
15:04 wizzyrea         that's a public service. I am both ashamed and grateful when I get an email from a company where I've forgotten about the account I have there emails me and is like "hey you, your password here is pwnt we disabled your account"
15:03 ashimema         well.. i reckon with the plugin hook that magnus added o 19.11 we're not far off being able to add it via plugin
15:03 wizzyrea         as in, your local library is letting you know that the password you use literally everywhere is on a list
15:03 ashimema         totally
15:03 wizzyrea         that libraries should provide
15:03 wizzyrea         I think that's an awesome customer service
15:03 wizzyrea         I was just thinking about the pwnt checking
15:01 ashimema         totally
15:01 wizzyrea         *nod* I wish we had a strength checker but then again they also are kind of... depending on the checker they don't mean much
15:01 ashimema         all well worthwhile reads
15:00 ashimema         1 = password strength, 2 = password pwned checking, 3 = 2fa
15:00 ashimema         articles 1, 2 and 3
15:00 ashimema         http://www.perladvent.org/2019/
15:00 wizzyrea         ok does... does it just need to get done?
15:00 wizzyrea         :( :( :(
15:00 ashimema         as for 2fa.. I've been wanting to add it for staff client for ages.. but no-one has sponsored me to do it yet :(
14:59 wizzyrea         https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.unix-ninja.com/p/your_xkcd_passwords_are_pwned&sa=D&source=hangouts&ust=1575988807100000&usg=AFQjCNHXZu8OLT8-F2mDMFejy3CDvXLJ9g
14:59 wizzyrea         sec
14:59 wizzyrea         oh oh I have an article
14:59 ashimema         interesitng read.. I was very tempted to throw a koha plugin together following them
14:59 wizzyrea         it always is amirite
14:59 oleonard         wizzyrea: I'll bet it's a cool fish we can't get here
14:59 ashimema         the first few perl advent articles are about password strength checking
14:58 wizzyrea         hi caroline_catlady
14:58 caroline_catlady hi all!
14:58 wizzyrea         what kind of fish?
14:58 wizzyrea         also fish soup yum
14:57 huginn           News from kohagit: Bug 17831: Remove non-existig bibliosubject.subject mapping from frameworks <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=285e1eb8ca8db3a28f82b8c86ce3488dc9f44b9b>
14:57 huginn           News from kohagit: Bug 17831: Database update - Tidy up frameworks in existing installations <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=34e931d5a2c5cdeb2e968dda3216a554f196c5b9>
14:57 huginn           News from kohagit: Bug 24128: Add alias for biblionumber search <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=9d68838af66cc93bb256d31f9e4296fab5d99a6f>
14:57 huginn           News from kohagit: Bug 17831: DBRev <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=cef3745aae53dad48c5cea654041d7bd24e0e71e>
14:57 wizzyrea         oh hell yeah
14:57 magnuse          we ahould have had that like... yesterday :-)
14:57 magnuse          i was mainly thinking 2fa for staff
14:57 wizzyrea         or even internet access or an email account.
14:56 wizzyrea         and there is at least one fair point there - that not everyone has a phone or a phone number
14:56 wizzyrea         I'm told that "in the real world" (don't get me started here...) library patrons can't deal with 2 factor
14:56 * magnuse        wanders off to make fish soup
14:56 wizzyrea         yeah same
14:55 magnuse          i think i would prioritize 2 factor auth, if i could, though
14:54 magnuse          cool!
14:52 wizzyrea         ^ it would be interesting to enforce this kind of a thing on Koha staff passwords
14:52 wizzyrea         "OkCupid stopped aging out employee passwords by policy a couple of years before NIST revised SP 800-63B. Instead, regular password audits are performed as a mitigating control. Employee password hashes for critical core resources are collected and thrown into a password cracking rig. Any passwords which are recovered are forced to be changed."
14:52 wahanui          bonjour, wizzyrea
14:52 wizzyrea         hi
14:51 magnuse          yeah, but today there is nowhere to link to display the ill requests connected to a biblio
14:50 oleonard         It would be nice if it could work like the holds link: It shows the count of ILL requests and clicking it shows the list of all ILL requests
14:50 wahanui          i already had it that way, huginn.
14:50 huginn           magnuse: Quote #123: "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is a mad scheme a library somewhere will be doing it ... except madder" (added by wizzyrea at 09:20 PM, March 30, 2011)
14:50 magnuse          @quote get 123
14:50 magnuse          normally there will only be one, but there could perhaps be more, so i want to take care of that
14:50 magnuse          yes!
14:49 oleonard         Oh they each link to a separate request?
14:47 oleonard         magnuse: I don't understand why there are 2
14:47 * oleonard       throws a rope to magnuse to keep him from getting swept away in huginn messages
14:46 huginn           Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20799 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, magnus, NEW , Add a link from biblio detail view to ILL request detail view, if a biblio has an ILL request
14:46 magnuse          bug 20799
14:46 huginn           News from kohagit: Bug 23246: Only jump into the 'images' tab HTML5MediaEnabled is set <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=142a0235ad9a266aeb5fdc0f0686aabdce43f5e6>
14:46 huginn           News from kohagit: Bug 23246: (follow-up) Hardcoding tab position is not enough <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=6938b0eac577b1f0e3833ccf5cc0c05aa133d879>
14:46 huginn           News from kohagit: Bug 24033: Fix column labelling on basket summary page (ecost) <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=fa41a4a94d9493377a71d1272ec5b3cabed5ff85>
14:46 huginn           News from kohagit: Bug 20948: Simplify existing code <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=93b2905bdf5c18063ab30d029c5e7a09a8f91641>
14:46 huginn           News from kohagit: Bug 20948: Only display item-level hold info if first hold <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=ca501374afa83ffe4f02920597cb977766704e5b>
14:46 huginn           News from kohagit: Bug 24057: Hea is not an acronym <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=243e4cd03140732b4156d6d0bb1156f0aa90c2b6>
14:46 huginn           News from kohagit: Bug 24053: Typo in FinePaymentAutoPopup description <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=543e11fdfacb6c7a4a7aecb015fd2443cbcc3df6>
14:46 huginn           News from kohagit: Bug 24056: Capitalization: Cash Register ID on cash register management page <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=fa1fa51562fbf018a1c11bf51895fd42034d8c4c>
14:46 huginn           News from kohagit: Bug 23987: Use src=CATALOGUING for edition/deletion in batch from items table <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=3225d049bef956d5fd66ed93561ddc9108ce138a>
14:46 huginn           News from kohagit: Bug 23987: "return to cataloguing" if the record is deleted from bachMod-del <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=5d94cbefdc0f06c9cc9b57a9e3016f52fdf2d71a>
14:46 huginn           News from kohagit: Bug 24126: Article requests tab appears twice on patron's checkout screen <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=9fa2818899bf4495ca94c6d311ec750d39298167>
14:46 magnuse          oleonard: do you think this is an acceptable way to use the number_box "widget" to display multiple links from a biblio to connected ILL requests? https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/attachment.cgi?id=96102
14:36 huginn           News from kohagit: Bug 24136: Update sponsors for 19.11 cycle <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=25ddfb15c5b0ec957ebf73874d41275701b818f7>
14:28 magnuse          huh,why can i see an ill userflag in the db, but nothing about ill in the permissions ui?
14:27 magnuse          eythian: ah, ok
14:25 huginn           News from kohagit: Bug 24168: (bug 23116 follow-up) AllowHoldPolicyOverride allows a librarian to almost... <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=ad3e5bae0cde4c9d8770f3f0414ee6add0d80c44>
13:50 eythian          magnuse: really, a fairly small eruption on the scale of such things. It just happened while there were people pretty much in the crater :/
13:35 tcohen           hola magnuse
13:14 magnuse          hiya tcohen
12:58 huginn           tcohen: Error: Failed to load Wunderground API. Check the logs for more information.
12:58 tcohen           @wunder cordoba, argentina
12:57 tcohen           morning
12:51 magnuse          https://images.geonet.org.nz/earthquake/drums/latest/haz-seismic-drum.png
12:50 magnuse          http://www.xn--bodhavn-s1a.no/webkamera/
12:49 oleonard         Wow, I hadn't heard that
12:48 oleonard         https://www.ohio.edu/webcam
12:47 magnuse          wow, big eruption in nz
12:47 oleonard         7C, rain here
12:47 magnuse          1cm fresh snow earlier today
12:46 magnuse          -3C, cloudy
12:46 oleonard         It's broken altogether.
12:46 huginn           magnuse: Error: I could not find a valid location for: Bodø
12:46 magnuse          @wunder Bodø
12:46 huginn           magnuse: Error: Failed to load Wunderground API. Check the logs for more information.
12:46 magnuse          @wunder bodo, norway
12:46 huginn           magnuse: Error: I could not find a valid location for: bodø, norway
12:46 magnuse          @wunder bodø, norway
12:46 magnuse          hehe, not a placename, yet
12:45 huginn           oleonard: Error: Failed to load Wunderground API. Check the logs for more information.
12:45 oleonard         @wunder magnuse
12:45 oleonard         Hi magnuse
12:44 magnuse          hiya oleonard
12:33 oleonard         Hi #koha
07:54 alex_a           Bonjour
07:52 josef_moravec    hello #koha
07:45 reiveune         hello
07:31 calire           hi magnuse :)
07:31 magnuse          hiya calire
07:15 calire           morning #koha
07:11 magnuse          davidnind++
07:11 magnuse          \o/