Time  Nick             Message
23:13 caroline_catlady good night everyone!
21:40 kidclamp         Yeah, but harder than I hope
21:27 corilynn         kidclamp, you mean the existing ones that are in the browser cache?
20:59 hayley           doing good, very busy in the team atm but the weather is nice so that's a plus!
20:58 wizzyrea         how doin :)
20:58 hayley           hi @wizzyrea!
20:58 aleisha          hi wizzyrea :)
20:58 wizzyrea         hi hayley and aleisha
20:53 kidclamp         technically, it hsould be possible to copy the storage somehow
20:44 corilynn         well, I got a bit before I need to hack away...
20:44 corilynn         :(
20:44 kidclamp         but I don't know which it is right now, and I think he is tending to sick tots today
20:44 wahanui          somebody said tcohen was the man you want to thank
20:44 corilynn         tcohen?
20:43 kidclamp         tcohen would be able to give the best example
20:43 corilynn         i guess not
20:43 kidclamp         heh, no one tried hard enough to bribe me
20:43 wahanui          corilynn: sorry...
20:43 corilynn         wahanui always confuses the crap out of me
20:43 wahanui          i think kidclamp is reply i guess kidclamp is the first RM not to be bribed
20:43 corilynn         kidclamp?
20:35 corilynn         do we have a good sample for the api?
20:34 kidclamp         After that it should be trivial to use api rather than the current save call
20:34 kidclamp         Just the tables, the next step is adding and api route
20:34 corilynn         or is it just the tables?
20:33 corilynn         kidclamp, can you send me whatever you did so far?
20:33 corilynn         I'll push it through the proper process, but I need this fixed by the end of next week
20:33 kidclamp         corilynn: that is top of my dev queue, but not ready for sign off, need to do the actual work
20:32 corilynn         I'm going to have to hack something in. I was just talking to my manager about that
20:32 corilynn         it's a desperately needed feature here, and because I use dynamic urls everyday the macros are gone
20:30 cait             https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Advanced_editor_macros
20:28 cait             but it#s not very full so far
20:27 cait             we have a wiki page currently
20:25 rangi            it would make sense for people to be able to share them, rather than everyone creating them, there's gotta be some common use cases for cataloguing :)
20:25 rangi            corilynn: it might also be worth talking to Biblibre about if mana-kb could be used to share macros
20:24 rangi            sadly the patch just adds a table, no code to use it. So there's still a lot to do
20:23 rangi            corilynn: on the upside, we have a couple of clients who exclusively use rancor (the advanced editor) so we might be able to work on that feature
20:21 rangi            Catalyst (where I work) has done way way less signoffs and QA this cycle than we normally would, hopefully can do more the next release cycle
20:21 cait             paying for people like Joubu helps - I think now he is back it will be flowing a bit more in some areas
20:20 cait             paid work usually gets preference
20:20 cait             but it's hard to herd cats - for every qa person it's a struggle between paid work and community work
20:20 rangi            some from 2018
20:20 rangi            195 waiting signoff
20:19 rangi            yeah that queue is getting large :(
20:19 cait             but we are not looking at new feautres right now until the release is out
20:19 cait             corilynn: at the moment... SO is a bottleneck too - QA is usually keeping up somewhat
20:19 rangi            (1348 patches, with 3149 sign offs in the 6 months from 19.05 release to today)
20:18 davidnind        caroline_catlady: if you do get it to work locally you will get a lot of warnings, I'm about a day and 1/2 into fixing them...
20:18 rangi            i mean it can always be faster, more people doing QA is good, but getting clients to pay for that, that's the hard thing
20:17 corilynn         ok
20:17 rangi            in the scheme of things, koha is really fast paced
20:17 rangi            :(
20:17 corilynn         I've never worked in open source before (other than to be rebuked when I fixed something that they wanted to be broken)
20:17 davidnind        I would reverse the changes using pip uninstall ... then use ^^^ (pip instead of pip3 installs the python version 2 versions of things)
20:16 corilynn         I know, i know
20:16 corilynn         my husband was one of those QAs
20:16 rangi            so apples and oranges
20:16 corilynn         yeah
20:16 rangi            sure, and you had inhouse people paid to do qa that you could tell to do it right
20:15 corilynn         sorry, i worked for one of the "big 5" for software development... fast was like less than a day. Slow was less than 2 weeks
20:15 corilynn         ok, if September = fast, then I will agree?
20:14 rangi            nothing older than september in the signed off queue (ie waiting for qa)
20:13 corilynn         rangi, that has not been my experience
20:13 rangi            its the initial dev and the initial sign off that usually takes a while
20:13 rangi            and usually quite fast
20:13 rangi            however everything that gets to the QA step (passed signed off) gets looked at
20:13 rangi            yep
20:13 corilynn         rangi, I get that, I was hoping they might make some sort of difference in the QA queue, but that probably works the same way too
20:12 rangi            corilynn: so the votes don't really factor into that
20:12 corilynn         kidclamp, I see a patch created 10/2, but it wasn't sent to QA?
20:12 rangi            corilynn: basically people work either on what they are paid to work on, or, what interests them
20:11 rangi            caroline_catlady: it might be still using the pip installed version
20:11 caroline_catlady ugh, I'm still getting that same error...
20:11 rangi            but they might make you feel better :)
20:11 corilynn         :(
20:11 rangi            nope
20:10 corilynn         do up votes matter?
20:10 huginn           Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17268 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Advanced cataloging editor - rancor - macros are lost when browser storage cleared
20:10 corilynn         bug 17268
20:10 corilynn         I found it
20:10 cait             i'll look for it
20:09 corilynn         cait, I need to ++ that IMMEDIATELY
20:09 davidnind        (I'm on Ubuntu 18.04)
20:09 cait             corilynn: to my knowledge yes - there is a bug open abou tmaking them more permanent i think
20:09 rangi            heh :)
20:08 davidnind        I used sudo apt-get install python3-sphinx  python3-sphinxcontrib.spelling (only reinstalled in the last week)
20:08 davidnind        my bad
20:07 corilynn         help! where are the macros saved? only as a cookie in the browser?
20:07 caroline_catlady ah oops! :) I just did the first part
20:07 rangi            one line
20:06 caroline_catlady or two?
20:06 caroline_catlady rangi, the sudo apt-get command that you wrote, is that one line?
20:06 rangi            (im on debian, so ymmv)
20:06 rangi            but yep, pip3 if not using the packaged version
20:05 rangi            yeah, i just use apt-get
20:05 davidnind        with 18.04 use pip3
20:05 cait             and you probably want to try it with a newer version
20:05 cait             i have on idea how i came up with that ho
20:05 cait             my notes say: sudo -H pip install 'sphinx==1.5.1' --force-reinstall sudo -H pip install sphinxcontrib-spelling
20:05 rangi            sudo apt-get install python3-sphinx python3-sphinxcontrib.spelling
20:05 rangi            https://gitlab.com/koha-community/koha-manual/blob/master/README.md
20:05 rangi            cos, i use apt-get it
20:04 caroline_catlady I have ubuntu 18.04
20:04 rangi            are you using debian/ubuntu caroline_catlady ?
20:04 rangi            hmmm
20:03 caroline_catlady and then I did sudo pip install Sphinx
20:03 caroline_catlady I started by installing pip sudo apt install python-pip
20:02 cait             how did you install it?
20:02 cait             checking if i can find my notes from last time sec
20:02 caroline_catlady But I litterally JUST installed it, why didn't it install the latest version?
20:02 caroline_catlady It seems I have Sphinx 1.8.5
20:02 caroline_catlady when I try to install that, it says Could not find a version that satisfies the requirement Sphinx>=2.0.0
20:01 caroline_catlady when I run sphinx-build -b html bla bla, it says I'm missing sphinxcontrib.spelling
20:01 cait             what error are you getting?
20:01 cait             it's been a while since i tried
20:01 caroline_catlady can someone help with sphinx? I'm trying to install it so that I can preview my changes to the docs before committing them. I think I have version problems
19:18 huginn           rangi: The operation succeeded.
19:18 rangi            @later tell Joubu done
19:15 rangi            Joubu: the 5.0.6 one?
18:45 koha-jenkins     Project Koha_Master_U18 build #487: UNSTABLE in 1 hr 1 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U18/487/
18:22 koha-jenkins     Project Koha_Master_D9_My8 build #26: SUCCESS in 36 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9_My8/26/
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17:11 cait             stilllost, but I blam the stupid cold
17:10 khall            what you are referring to is actually cruft that should be removed. We split the Koha guarantor functionality from the non-koha guarantor. That stuff is all under "Contact" now, and doesn't have any practical effect in Koha
17:08 cait             khall: sorry, not sure i understand yet - but it's probably me today
17:04 huginn           News from kohagit: Bug 24100: (bug 23788 follow-up) Capitalization correction <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=fc7da400acfb26c33bfa941ba0f63e3aeba97c04>
17:02 cait             just commented
17:02 khall            cait I'm referring to the 'empty' patron fieldset inside the "Guarantor information" fieldset
17:01 cait             khall: are we sure it should not be visible on quick add? there is a not specifically referring to quick add
16:58 corilynn         thanks ashimema!
16:58 ashimema         Wednesday, 27 November
16:58 ashimema         Planed 19.11 release
16:58 ashimema         27th
16:57 corilynn         i swear I googled before I asked, but what's the release date for 19.11?
16:47 vfernandes       #koha it's possible to set the "no renewal before" to count only open days?
16:47 * cait           waves
16:43 caroline_catlady ok thanks :)
16:43 ashimema         * that should have opened it up to you now caroline_catlady
16:43 ashimema         that should have opened it up to you now caroline_catalady
16:42 * ashimema       adds caroline to the cc list.
16:42 davidnind        hi caroline_catalady!
16:42 caroline_catlady btw hi!
16:41 caroline_catlady I get it
16:41 caroline_catlady ah ok, and they mask it so that it's not viewable to the internet
16:41 davidnind        it will be a security-relate bug
16:40 huginn           News from kohagit: Bug 23964: (follow-up) We should check for only active holds when determining to... <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=0f4bc4fd812b34bf15f593d769363dde1ca0247b>
16:38 huginn           Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=22522 is not accessible.
16:38 caroline_catlady why would I be blocked from seeing a bug on bugzilla? I have a reference to bug 22522 in one of my internal support tickets, but bz tells me I am not allowed to see it?
16:19 reiveune         bye
15:49 huginn           Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=24104 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Item search - dropdown buttons overflow
15:49 Joubu            oleonard: bug 24104 - is this new?
15:45 wizzyrea         hi
15:36 huginn           Joubu: The operation succeeded.
15:36 Joubu            @later tell rangi could you have a look at the rebased patch I attached to bug 23672?
15:34 nlegrand         Bonjour !
14:40 caroline_catlady (if it works, lol!)
14:40 caroline_catlady thanks Joubu, I will wait for Maryse to change the file and I will sign it off
14:39 Joubu            yes
14:38 cait             but the approach looks good
14:37 Joubu            that's what I was going to comment
14:34 cait             but no owen around to ask - it's why I added him CC
14:34 cait             or really make a new one
14:34 cait             the only thing I was wondering about this patch was if we shoudl include it in the datatables string file
14:34 Joubu            it's a tiny patch, that's fine :)
14:34 cait             but you can sign-off and still ask for another
14:34 cait             one sign-off from "anyone" and a QA
14:34 cait             not quite
14:30 caroline_catlady We have to have two sign-offs anyway, right?
14:29 cait             but i wouldn't mind
14:29 cait             i am not sure what the current rule is
14:25 caroline_catlady I know I'm not supposed to sign off things done by inlibro
14:25 caroline_catlady Can I sign it off? I reported it, but my colleague submitted a patch
14:25 huginn           Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=24046 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, maryse.simard, Needs Signoff , 'Activate filters' untranslatable
14:25 caroline_catlady I'm not sure of the ettiquette for bug 24046
14:18 caroline_catlady Should I mark it as duplicate?
14:17 cait             that's how i found it
14:17 cait             funnily it was the random bug on the dashboard yesterday
14:16 cait             sorry for the confusion :)
14:16 caroline_catlady oh yeah ok!
14:16 cait             caroline_catlady: ^
14:16 wahanui          this one is big enough as is
14:16 cait             this one
14:16 huginn           Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=22252 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Status messages returned by Mana are not translatable
14:16 cait             bug 22252
14:16 cait             22252
14:16 cait             nope
14:16 huginn           Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=22522 is not accessible.
14:16 cait             bug 22522
14:16 cait             i think I typoed the bug number
14:15 cait             oh
14:15 caroline_catlady I'm not sure which typo you're talking about... :/
14:15 huginn           Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=22552 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Adding users to serials routing search requires edit_borrowers permission
14:15 caroline_catlady cait, can you explain more about bug 22552?
14:13 tcohen           hi	caroline_catlady corilynn cait
14:13 caroline_catlady Good morning everyone!
14:05 corilynn         mornin' tcohen
14:04 tcohen           morning all
14:03 corilynn         aaru_swartz, are you still having problems with bulk load?
13:08 marcelr          sshh
13:05 magnuse          wow, quiet day...
09:51 koha-jenkins     Project Koha_Master_D9 build #1013: SUCCESS in 34 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9/1013/
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09:48 wahanui          Congratulations!
09:48 koha-jenkins     Yippee, build fixed!
09:26 koha-jenkins     Project Koha_Master_U18 build #485: SUCCESS in 41 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U18/485/
09:16 koha-jenkins     Project Koha_Master_D8 build #546: SUCCESS in 28 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D8/546/
08:45 huginn           News from kohagit: Bug 23901: Fix sms_input is null in opac-messaging.tt <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=7b8780daa14dad446c0c7b0cdf4f01fe90531ed3>
08:45 huginn           News from kohagit: Bug 23901: Fix indentation <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=8606ca9a0e8d476b4674ec0325402c16de8e58da>
08:45 huginn           News from kohagit: Bug 24013: Fix transferbook if item is checked out <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=4c853b0034e20d127a42149dd9d6239867d9df67>
08:45 huginn           News from kohagit: Bug 24013: Add tests <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=95d5be238cb69b8f4a38bebc6128b82c23d1c208>
08:45 huginn           News from kohagit: Bug 24072: Typos in advance_notices.pl causes DUEDGST not to be sent <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=1f3a9722e4f8d32c7a839137252fc935ad599f74>
08:45 huginn           News from kohagit: Bug 24084: PlainMARC view broken on OPAC if other $.ajax calls produce errors <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=770f24d4f7da01434fb2318425e4275ec791db8f>
08:45 huginn           News from kohagit: Bug 24093: Sorting indicators broken on list contents view <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e9163adf3f7bbd4ca0ae7721b272ab2493e4d5ff>
08:06 cait             #koha
08:06 cait             good morning k
07:57 wahanui          salut, reiveune
07:57 reiveune         hello
07:51 alex_a           Bonjour
07:37 fridolin         aloa
07:29 marcelr          hi #koha
07:10 magnuse          \o/
07:09 huginn           cait: The operation succeeded.
07:09 cait             @later tell caroline_catlady bug 22252 is probably related to the typo you found
06:14 aaru_swartz      Let me please know if this is the right place to ask for help
06:14 aaru_swartz      I am facing an issue in uploading bulk data in Koha
06:13 aaru_swartz      Thanks for all the support you have given so far.
06:13 aaru_swartz      Hi Team Koha