Time  Nick                  Message
22:55 caroline_crazycatlady have a good weekend all!
20:00 caroline_crazycatlady catpicture++
19:57 davidnind[m]          I so love Fred's narratives, and the adventures of the Avenging Chicken (http://avengingchicken.online/misc/installing_koha_on_raspberry-pi-4.pdf)
17:07 tcohen                hi cait
17:07 cait                  hello
17:07 wahanui               hi oleopard
17:07 tcohen                hi oleonard!
17:07 oleonard              Hello again
16:37 AnnaBoten             \_o< quack!
16:28 AnnaBoten             The hunt starts now!
16:28 tuxayo                !start
15:14 tuxayo                ^^"
15:11 ashimema              I've seen this before
15:11 ashimema              grr
15:10 tuxayo                cc ashimema
15:06 tuxayo                weird
15:06 tuxayo                http://staff-tuxayo.sandboxes.ptfs-europe.co.uk/
15:06 tuxayo                http://opac-tuxayo.sandboxes.ptfs-europe.co.uk
15:05 huginn                tuxayo: downloading the Perl source
15:05 tuxayo                When I click on the link for the opac or the staff interface, the new page has a correct URL but still displays the sandbox list
15:05 tuxayo                @PTFS-E : it seems that the sandboxes have an issue: http://sandboxes.ptfs-europe.co.uk/
14:57 reiveune              bye
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14:44 caroline_crazycatlady tuxayo haha! :D
14:43 * tuxayo              approves the text
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14:35 caroline_crazycatlady oleonard++ XD
14:34 * oleonard            approves of the image choice
14:33 caroline_crazycatlady Haven't translated it yet but https://inlibro.com/knowledge-base/ajouter-une-image-dans-une-nouvelle/
14:32 caroline_crazycatlady I figured out the picture frame thing and made a procedure for my client... waiting for feedback
14:32 caroline_crazycatlady cait: no problem!
14:32 cait                  caroline_crazycatlady: sorry caroline, we got a big event here yesterday and things have been generally too crazy
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14:21 ashimema              still feels odd that the tooltip worked before anyways.. i have no idea where it's coming from
14:20 ashimema              the markup was getting added by a browser extention
14:20 ashimema              you're totally right..
14:20 ashimema              aha..
14:19 ashimema              I'll try in incognito
14:19 ashimema              oh.. perhaps
14:19 ashimema              https://pasteboard.co/IzmcMnY.png
14:18 oleonard              Could it be getting added by a browser extension?
14:17 ashimema              and.. if I inspect the page the original tooltip markup is still there
14:17 ashimema              but we still had a tooltip which I've not managed to work out where the original was coming from..
14:17 ashimema              which was missing before..
14:17 ashimema              my patch adds the newline stuff but it also adds the library_limitation class and .tooltip js
14:16 ashimema              did you see the issue before the patch?
14:16 oleonard              Yes
14:15 huginn                Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=23689 minor, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Needs Signoff , Terminology: Branches limitations should be libraries limitations - Authorised Values
14:15 ashimema              the patch on: bug 23689
14:15 oleonard              Yes
14:13 ashimema              is your screenshot with my patch?
14:13 oleonard              I don't see that.
14:13 oleonard              Very weird
14:13 ashimema              but there
14:13 ashimema              the differences are subtle
14:13 ashimema              for itemtypes
14:12 ashimema              https://pasteboard.co/IzmabWt.png
14:12 ashimema              vs
14:12 ashimema              for AV's
14:12 ashimema              https://pasteboard.co/Izm9YRI5.png
14:11 caroline_crazycatlady cait, were you able to test the pasting of images in the news?
14:10 oleonard              https://zivotdesign.com/p/view.php?p=15695933982577
14:08 ashimema              does that make sense?
14:08 ashimema              placement is different, rounded corners and there's no little triangle pointing to where it came from
14:07 ashimema              it does for me
14:06 oleonard              ashimema: Are you saying that the tooltip on the authorized values page looks different than the one on the itemtypes page?
13:46 ashimema              I thought I'd make them match but I can't find where this is coming from in the first place now
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13:45 ashimema              but it's differently styled to the tooltip we introduced in the same field on the itemtypes table
13:45 ashimema              it's the hidden tooltip markup for the branch limitations
13:45 tcohen                we should be really either passing the resultset to the templates, or fetching it using hte accessors on the templates
13:44 ashimema              gr__tooltip is in the source of the page
13:44 tcohen                this is actually technical debt
13:44 tcohen                :-P
13:43 * oleonard            blames tcohen
13:43 ashimema              blame tcohen ;)
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13:43 ashimema              pull master.. I fixed that about 20 mins ago ;)
13:42 ashimema              haha..
13:42 ashimema              if you head to manage an authorized value
13:42 oleonard              ashimema: Are you getting an error when editing authorized values? Can't call method "as_list" on an undefined value at /kohadevbox/koha/admin/authorised_values.pl line 57
13:42 oleonard              Where do you see gr__tooltip?
13:41 ashimema              oops.. sorry
13:41 oleonard              Oh no I've been distracted from my non-Koha obligations
13:40 ashimema              it's different from the bootstrap tooltip elsewhere
13:40 huginn                ashimema: The operation succeeded.
13:40 ashimema              @later tell oleonard where does gr__tooltip come from in the authorized_values admin pages?
13:40 ashimema              oleonard dissapeared?
13:39 tcohen                or that representation
13:38 tcohen                full MARC (usmarc, MARCXML, Marc-in-JSON)
13:38 tcohen                the API is for retrieving records in various ways
13:37 caroline_crazycatlady I know I get a lot of requests for the target audience (521$a) esp. for children's collections... I guess we would be able to query the MARC too?
13:36 caroline_crazycatlady only info from the db can be accessed?
13:36 tcohen                I even removed some fields
13:36 tcohen                the mapping is at the bottom
13:36 tcohen                https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/attachment.cgi?id=93174
13:35 tcohen                transformed a bit
13:35 tcohen                this is actually biblio + biblioitems
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13:35 caroline_crazycatlady ok +1
13:35 tcohen                that's a decision we made for the API
13:34 caroline_crazycatlady Is there a reason for biblio_id vs biblionumber?
13:34 caroline_crazycatlady most of them are the same as the db fields so we're used to them
13:33 caroline_crazycatlady yeah, seems good to me!
13:33 tcohen                what I want is an opinion on the field names, those on the left
13:33 caroline_crazycatlady ah ok!
13:33 tcohen                the values on the right are not important, they are just random data I think
13:32 caroline_crazycatlady there is a colon after the title, but no subtitle
13:32 caroline_crazycatlady is there a 245$b in your record?
13:31 tcohen                but wanted to double check
13:31 tcohen                they look ok-ish
13:31 tcohen                what do you think of those attribute names for biblios
13:31 tcohen                https://snipboard.io/k3lsMD.jpg
13:30 caroline_crazycatlady ooh, for me?
13:30 tcohen                caroline_crazycatlady: I've got a request for you
13:30 caroline_crazycatlady hi tcohen!
13:28 tcohen                hi all
13:23 caroline_crazycatlady hi oleonard! ashimema's been busy
13:22 * oleonard            digs caroline_crazycatlady out of the kohagit news and wishes her good morning
13:11 huginn                News from kohagit: Bug 23214: Modify account-table.inc to enable payment of guarantees fines <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e043ba36938e5025a2b39d6f7dc15101da9047d4>
13:11 huginn                News from kohagit: Bug 23213: Enable minimum payment threshold check in OPAC <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=1001eb3384e7cd9d784d3082d67d2711fd1c20a8>
13:11 huginn                News from kohagit: Bug 23602: Display branch limitations in itemtype table <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=ed2390f999121cd210651d81021f090b6aaada23>
13:11 huginn                News from kohagit: Bug 23602: (follow-up) Correct terminology, add tooltip <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=bfb798386057b3d3c8847815931bfe7a7f8a302b>
13:11 huginn                News from kohagit: Bug 23631: fr-CA translation of NEW_SUGGESTION notice <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=4ca44685bb56c6e172ec5d9ad3dd769fe2eabfa2>
13:11 huginn                News from kohagit: Bug 23602: (follow-up) Improve tooltip formatting <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=8d8d002eecee3ca78bf44c64b20bf2b91ea8a201>
13:10 caroline_crazycatlady Good morning!
13:01 huginn                News from kohagit: Bug 18710: Wrong subfield modified in batch item modification <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=adb232c8f0f4bf8574ca3dce9548196430c57fb0>
13:01 huginn                News from kohagit: Bug 23101: Hide action buttons on contracts if user lacks permission <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=d0a06e365b693de6609998b3d649d9ef4d083880>
13:01 huginn                News from kohagit: Bug 22602: Fix OverDrive circulation when coming from another site <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=4b642386d8983a12c1a79924ae1fac180b10c3d0>
13:01 huginn                News from kohagit: Bug 23607: Make /patrons/:patron_id/account staff only <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=8171c9d05dc3adf0014a727e304f666606f7f751>
13:01 huginn                News from kohagit: Bug 23625: ArticleRequestsMandatoryFields* only affects field labels, does not make... <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=64148cf4ac6f20787a809b36243672430faa6e8f>
13:01 huginn                News from kohagit: Bug 23627: Reduce Koha::Biblio->get_coins noise if no 245 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=8766689d34c63416f38a8248367483c573c5036e>
13:01 huginn                News from kohagit: Bug 23625: Make new 'required' attributes match the currently used syntax in other... <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=0aeb5998481a28fb72c8f184bd3f85f7491dc858>
13:01 huginn                News from kohagit: Bug 23651: Add address of restricted page to syspref description <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=fa97bc90df532720287eaf296c15f7facdaa730d>
13:01 huginn                News from kohagit: Bug 23683: Course reserves public notes on specific items should allow for HTML <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=d8187991a40f58ab815fd1e75d6a3671ca72a668>
12:46 * ashimema            makes note to note that bug
12:46 ashimema              it made me also notice that we still use 'branch' instead of 'library' on the authorized vales page for the same
12:46 * oleonard            shuffles off to see to non-Koha obligations
12:46 oleonard              Okay, better stop procrastinating.
12:45 oleonard              Nope. I just don't usually test with a maximized browser window so I don't think I saw the issue until I looked for it
12:44 ashimema              coolios.. I wasn't being overly perfectionist then :)
12:44 oleonard              Good follow-up on 23602
12:44 oleonard              ashimema++
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12:21 * ashimema            is about to hit his queue
12:21 cait                  lookis like quite some bugzilla activity today :)
12:18 ashimema              best kind of procrastintion ever ;)
12:18 * oleonard            is procrastinating via sign-offs
12:18 ashimema              hugs
12:17 oleonard              I'll take a look
12:17 ashimema              if not I reckon we can PQA it :)
12:17 ashimema              would be interested to see if you think I'm being a bit OTT with it or if you can spot any issues I've not
12:17 huginn                Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=23602 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, agustinmoyano, Signed Off , Library limitations should display in the item types table
12:17 ashimema              bug 23602.. I've added a followup on top of your followup
12:16 * oleonard            isn't going anywhere... nowhere at all... will be here... in Ohio...
12:16 oleonard              Yup
12:16 ashimema              oleonard about still?
12:08 magnuse               it's not my idea, btw, i have seen it done somewhere
12:07 magnuse               could work with local covers, perhaps
12:07 magnuse               yeah, that is probably a problem
12:07 * oleonard            doesn't know how you'd get a print-resolution version of a book cover
12:07 magnuse               see some of you on sunday or monday, in marseille!
12:06 * magnuse             gotta run
12:06 magnuse               oleonard: yes
11:56 huginn                News from kohagit: Bug 23272: (RM followup) Fix edit action <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=148f35963d5eae1f9eabc0c7cb0b69cd7056b020>
11:55 oleonard              Oh I see, like for displays?
11:55 oleonard              Printing the cover of a book?
11:54 magnuse               In the intranet we could have a page for printing the cover of a book, with a qr code that points to the opac record of that book
11:52 magnuse               oleonard: ah yes, there you are
11:38 huginn                Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=23566 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Signed Off , Continue on device - with QR codes
11:37 oleonard              Oh I didn't see that Bug 23566 got a signoff. Cool, that was a fun one.
11:30 oleonard              I'm, uh... right here?
11:29 magnuse               oh leopard where art thou
11:28 wahanui               hi oleopard
11:28 magnuse               hi oleonard
11:28 oleonard              Hi #koha
11:08 ashimema              D8 has a weird encoding issue.. I've been meaning to get to the bottom of it for ages
10:31 magnuse               oh get a grip D8
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09:37 huginn                News from kohagit: Bug 23321: (RM follow-up) Accounts vs. Accounting <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=d79fd755e4c19c70aa5df49783d6615a6f20041f>
09:37 marcelr               ashimema: the AS is optional but would be helpful indeed
09:24 ashimema              should there not be an 'AS' before the $derived_name too..
09:20 ashimema              thanks
09:20 ashimema              perfect
09:19 marcelr               clear; in any case the status is correct now ;)
09:17 ashimema              personally.. the physicist in me hates the idea of showing graphs that don't take account of the whole dataset.. it just ends up misleading
09:17 ashimema              it's 626 we wanted to take an entirely different approach
09:17 ashimema              so.. your comment on 624 is helpful :)
09:16 ashimema              the 'graphs' one we didn't
09:16 ashimema              the 'count' one we liked
09:16 ashimema              ack.. I just got the bugs the wrong way around..
09:15 marcelr               we should limit the query and not apply limit on the results
09:15 marcelr               i failed qa on 626 now
09:14 marcelr               aarg
09:14 ashimema              sorry, It was late and I had a migraine coming on.. then totally forgot yesterday
09:13 marcelr               ok; adding results of the dev meeting on the report and changing status might have been handy ?
09:09 ashimema              having charts that mysteriously only account for some of the dataset seems a fairly silly excersize
09:08 ashimema              i.e. a new bug that adds a preference to just entirely disable charts
09:08 ashimema              I think we decided on a different approach entirely during the dev meeting for 23624
09:07 * ashimema            reads comment
09:07 huginn                Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=23624 normal, P5 - low, ---, paul, Passed QA , Count rows in report without (potentially) consuming all memory
09:07 ashimema              bug 23624
09:06 marcelr               looking at 23626 right now
09:06 marcelr               ashimema: hi, i added a comment on 23624; if it was not qaed yet, i would have hesitated to pass qa
08:26 magnuse               yeah, 1,5 years since last hackfest in Marseille. But I think my last one was the one with jransom in 2016?
07:33 nlegrand              Hallo cait!
07:31 cait                  it might add to the feeling that it has been 1.5 years :)
07:31 ashimema              I've missed a couple, it'll be awesome to attend again
07:31 ashimema              Didn't it switch time of year to not be too close to kohacon this year magnuse?
07:20 cait                  good morning
07:20 magnuse               did i miss one?
07:20 magnuse               feels like ages since last time i was in marseille
07:20 magnuse               kia ora cait
07:20 magnuse               awesome!
07:19 magnuse               oh yes!
07:18 nlegrand              ashimema: ^^ yep!
07:18 ashimema              (assuming you mean hackfest)
07:18 ashimema              woopie.. see you both soon too :)
07:18 ashimema              bbiab
07:18 ashimema              right.. school run O'Clock..
07:18 nlegrand              magnuse: on monday it seems :)
07:18 ashimema              my cash management screen certainly looks best on a widescreen.. side by side functions
07:17 ashimema              interesting thoughts anyways..
07:17 ashimema              yeah.. that's my thinking too.. I just wondered how many libraries were still using ancient kit ;)
07:17 magnuse               bonjour nlegrand! see you soon?
07:17 ashimema              context is that I've generally targeted 4:3 though to be honest not thought a great deal about it.. but a few libaries here mentioned in passing that it would be nice to target 16:10 now as that seems to be the prominent screen on the market
07:17 nlegrand              hey magnuse
07:16 nlegrand              ashimema: I'd say widescreen in France. It's been a while since 4:3 was easisy available on market.
07:16 ashimema              :)
07:15 * magnuse             would guess lots of librarians do not have fancy screens...
07:15 * magnuse             waves
07:09 ashimema              pop quiz, what format of screens are librarians using these days in their respective libraries.. have they joined the widescreen world yet or are most still on 4:3?
07:06 ashimema              wow, someone was busy on QA last night :)
07:06 ashimema              Mornin'
07:04 nlegrand              ^^
07:04 alex_a                nlegrand, yes, ça biche :)
07:03 alex_a                Woké!
07:03 nlegrand              https://fr.wiktionary.org/wiki/bicher#fr
07:03 nlegrand              https://fr.wiktionary.org/wiki/%C3%A7a_biche
07:03 * alex_a              searches the meaning of "ça biche"
07:01 nlegrand              pas mal !
07:00 alex_a                Ça biche ?
07:00 alex_a                Hello nlegrand !
06:59 nlegrand              Salut alex_a, ça biche ?
06:56 alex_a                Bonjour
06:52 nlegrand              Hey #koha
06:34 wahanui               niihau, reiveune
06:34 reiveune              hello
05:45 marcelr               hi #koha
05:31 fridolin              ji