Time Nick Message 06:40 reiveune hello 06:55 alex_a Bonjour 07:21 marcelr hi #koha 07:45 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 20691: DBRev 19.06.00.026 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=16399fd2363ff4bacd2ab4ffe042d211a10e071d> 07:45 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 20691: (QA follow-up) API-related fixes <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=81b2e7f4cbe7f1d2d178ef80048deac196ed80ac> 07:45 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 20691: (QA follow-up) Fix atomic update <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=7f8375f009e6d926ec9965ad2cbd8be1f35dd194> 07:45 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 20691: (follow-up) Fix qa fails <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=27a165363261741ecf5c10187a572f1278be0a17> 07:45 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 20691: Implement fines view <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=5583a0a42c193b4992b3550e4d26bae0ae2630e7> 07:45 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 20691: Add ability to turn feature on and off <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=1ad03f5509ea287c7402c64577595a9c8cd60dfb> 07:45 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 20691: Database update <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=9519c92f736c7acacafc19a4fb91b663c186294e> 08:21 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9 build #863: SUCCESS in 31 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9/863/ 08:25 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_U18 build #347: UNSTABLE in 40 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U18/347/ 08:31 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D8 build #379: STILL UNSTABLE in 43 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D8/379/ 09:50 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed! 09:50 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_U18 build #348: FIXED in 37 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U18/348/ 11:59 koha-jenkins Project Koha_18.11_D9 build #165: SUCCESS in 25 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_18.11_D9/165/ 12:08 koha-jenkins Project Koha_18.11_U18 build #157: SUCCESS in 32 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_18.11_U18/157/ 12:09 oleonard Hi #koha 12:14 koha-jenkins Project Koha_18.11_D8 build #164: SUCCESS in 39 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_18.11_D8/164/ 12:18 magnuse hi oleonard 12:20 gk Hi Koha 12:22 gk Koha 19.05 on Ubuntu 18.04 or 16.04 Package Installation: Errors at Web Installtion. Error 1: The following error occured while importing database structure Install.pl: DBD:mysql:st excecute failed. BLOB, TEXT, GEOMETRY or JSON column ‘changed fields’ can’t have a default value at /usr/share/perl5DBIx/RunSQL.pm line 273. 12:23 gk Error2: DBIx::Class::Storage::DBI::_dbh_execute(): Table 'koha_test.discharges' doesn't exist at /usr/share/koha/lib/Koha/Patron/Discharge.pm line 31 12:24 gk Instead of 205 tables I find only 160 tables in koha database. 12:28 oleonard gk: I see results in my web searches that suggest it may be because MySQL is in "strict" mode 12:28 oleonard I don't know anything about it... just wanted to pass that on. 12:30 gk Thanks oleonard. How can I fix it? 12:31 oleonard gk: I suggest searching the web for how to disable strict mode in mysql. Unless there's someone here who can tell you how to do it 12:31 gk Thank you. I will do that. 12:44 * oleonard bbl 12:52 caroline_catlady good morning! 12:53 davidnind hi caroline_catlady! 13:04 caroline_catlady @davidnind meeting? 13:04 huginn caroline_catlady: I'll give you the answer just as soon as RDA is ready 13:04 davidnind Anyone around for the documentation meeting? 13:04 caroline_catlady I'm here! 13:04 davidnind I should read before I hit enter!:) 13:04 caroline_catlady :) 13:04 lucyvh Yes I'm here 13:04 caroline_catlady hi lucyvh! 13:04 davidnind Hi lucyvh! 13:05 lucyvh Hiboth 13:05 davidnind #startmeeting Documentation IRC meeting 12 September 2019 13:05 huginn Meeting started Thu Sep 12 13:05:12 2019 UTC. The chair is davidnind. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 13:05 huginn Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 13:05 huginn The meeting name has been set to 'documentation_irc_meeting_12_september_2019' 13:05 ashimema #info Martin Renvoize, PTFS Europe 13:05 davidnind #topic Introductions 13:06 caroline_catlady #info Caroline Cyr La Rose, inlibro 13:06 davidnind #info David Nind 13:06 lucyvh #info Lucy Vaux-Harvey PTFS Europe 13:07 davidnind Looks like it is just us! 13:07 davidnind #topic Action points 13:08 davidnind Looks like my list hasn't magically disappeared! 13:08 davidnind I've been working through installation, but not much to share yet or progress on other tasks 13:09 caroline_catlady I didn't get much done on the git guide either 13:09 davidnind #inofo Agenda https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Documentation_IRC_meeting_12_September_2019 13:09 davidnind #info https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Documentation_IRC_meeting_12_September_2019 13:09 davidnind Starting to feel very bad about lack of any visible progress! 13:10 caroline_catlady thd has been making good progess on the wiki update 13:10 davidnind yes, that is great - a lot of work to get things working 13:10 davidnind will be great to have a more up-to-date version of mediawiki 13:11 ashimema thd++ 13:11 davidnind #info Good progress being made on the wiki update by thd 13:11 caroline_catlady yes thd++ 13:12 davidnind Quite keen to make some progress on an installation guide 13:12 caroline_catlady So davidnind what would be your priorities for you and for us? 13:13 caroline_catlady work on action points or work on the manual, or something else? 13:13 * ashimema would also like to point out we now have 70 until the planned release 13:13 magnuse days? 13:13 caroline_catlady or do you want to assign tasks to different ppl? 13:13 ashimema It would be good to have some help chasing authors of 'new features' for this cycle to get corresponding manual submissions in asap. 13:14 ashimema 70 days..yes.. 13:14 davidnind Main priority is to get manual up-to-date 13:14 ashimema https://gitlab.com/koha-community/koha-release-notes/blob/master/release_notes_19_06_00.md 13:14 caroline_catlady ok! 13:14 davidnind I was thinking one way would be to pick a section or chapter and review this to see if it is up-to-date 13:15 ashimema good plan davidnind 13:15 davidnind I'm working through the installation page at the moment 13:15 caroline_catlady I started acquisitions, so I might as well continue on that 13:15 davidnind caroline_catlady++ 13:16 lucyvh I haven't been able to do much recently - happy to have a go at Cataloguing 13:16 davidnind excellent, and thanks lucyvh! 13:17 davidnind That's three areas assigned! 13:17 lucyvh What is the best way of chasing for the new features? 13:17 caroline_catlady with a golden whip 13:18 caroline_catlady you lasso them and make them write it down XD 13:18 lucyvh Haha!! 13:18 davidnind wondering how a virtual whip would work... 13:18 ashimema I would say look at the bug on BZ and see what company (if it's a company) is behind it.. then chase the company.. often it's not the developer who would be in a position to write the docs and they may need to lean on trainers/documentor from within the company.. 13:19 davidnind Would posting on bugzilla asking for docs for the bug work? 13:20 davidnind for each pushed bug , where required? 13:20 ashimema I certainly try to add the 'Manual' keyword to such bugs as a start.. and often follow with a comment yes. 13:20 davidnind thanks ashimema! 13:21 ashimema next cycle I'd really like to push harder for docs submissions... just nto entirely sure how to do it. 13:21 davidnind I should look at the search setup for this more often! 13:21 ashimema almost need a policy of pulling features back out if a manual entry isn't submitted in a timely manor 13:22 davidnind wonders how that would go down! 13:22 davidnind okay, so we have got a bit of plan, we'll see how it works! 13:22 ashimema other things are a bit more minor and easy to add manual updates as you find issues with them.. for example bug 16284.. likely a small one line update to whatever may already exist in the manual regarding the feature. 13:22 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=16284 normal, P5 - low, ---, josef.moravec, Pushed to master , With CheckPrevCheckout used, check only the item for previous checkout if biblio is serial 13:24 davidnind I'll start looking through the release notes to add any items required to taiga, hopefully I can be as dilligent as caroline_catlady was at this! 13:25 davidnind #info tasks assigned for reviewing sections of the manual in an effort to get it up to date 13:26 davidnind #info davidnind to monitor newly pushed bugs and the release notes and try to encourage doc contributions, and get the minor items incorproated 13:27 davidnind Will see how we go! 13:27 davidnind #topic What's been done so far 13:28 davidnind In the last month one change was from cait, which removed marc mapping 13:29 davidnind Anything else anyone is aware of? Occasionally seeing some updates to the week for the training resources, which is great. 13:29 davidnind cait++ 13:30 caroline_catlady Marie-Luce and I have been working on a knowledge base. It's mainly for our clients, but it's available on the Web 13:30 davidnind #topic Content development guidelines 13:31 caroline_catlady #link https://inlibro.com/en/products/koha-open-source-lms/knowledge-base/?top-category=koha still has some work to be done, but the articles are available in english and french 13:32 davidnind just found it, it looks excellent! 13:33 lucyvh That looks great 13:33 davidnind #info inlibro working on a knowledge base for their clients 13:34 davidnind I might have to learn French! :) 13:34 caroline_catlady everytime we get a support question that looks like it could benefit everyone, we write an article 13:34 caroline_catlady (trying to find the page in English) 13:35 davidnind (falls back on using Google Translate...) 13:35 davidnind would like to do something similar for Koha (from my talk at KohaCon) 13:35 caroline_catlady if you click on an article, it comes up in English... anyway, like I said, still wip 13:36 caroline_catlady The only thing that worries me is keeping it up to date 13:36 caroline_catlady we already have trouble keeping the manual up to date 13:37 davidnind I think that is the ongoing challenging with any content - documentation and training.... 13:38 davidnind #topic Content development guidelines 13:39 davidnind Does anyone have anything they would like to discuss, or any particular things that annoy them? 13:40 caroline_catlady what do you mean by content development guidelines? 13:41 davidnind Will try and post one or two things for the next meeting, similar to what the development meeting does for the coding guidelines 13:41 davidnind the more familiar phrase might be style guide 13:41 caroline_catlady ah ok! :) 13:43 davidnind my minds gone black at the moment... so hopefully it will stare working again soon! 13:44 davidnind #topic Next steps 13:44 caroline_catlady davidnind I will send you some things that I think about 13:45 davidnind Excellent! 13:45 davidnind Right, I think we have discussed next steps, and we all have something to work on over the next couple of weeks 13:46 davidnind unless there is anything else you would all like to raise 13:46 lucyvh If we work through the release notes and document a particular bug where's the best place to record that it's been done? 13:46 ashimema What I've been doing is using the Keywords in BZ.. 13:47 ashimema so.. add the 'Manual' or/and 'release-notes-needed' keyword to the bug in BZ if it's still needing some input.. 13:47 ashimema then remove it once I've done the work.. i.e. filled in the 'Text to go in the release notes' field in BZ or submitted a manual patch and had it merged. 13:48 ashimema I can work through the notes adding the keywords for wherever it's missing to date now if people would like. 13:48 ashimema does that sound like a reasonable workflow.. I'm aware it doesn't record any form of "I'm working on this" status though. 13:48 lucyvh OK, so just remove the keywords once we're done? 13:48 ashimema it's either done or not done in that scenario 13:49 ashimema works for me.. 13:49 lucyvh Yes see what you mean... 13:49 caroline_catlady also on taiga 13:49 davidnind the other thing is to add that bug to taiga if it is not there already there, and then cose it of 13:49 caroline_catlady (sorry discussing 490 vs 830 with a colleague, very intense discussion) 13:49 ashimema indeed.. i've never got entirely up to speed on taiga 13:49 davidnind all the above sound good! 13:50 davidnind ditto 13:50 davidnind whoosh (490 vs 830).... :) 13:50 davidnind no trying to work out how to info this! 13:50 lucyvh Sounds fun!! 13:52 davidnind #info if a bug needs documentation add Manual and or release-notes-needed keyword to the bug in Bugzilla 13:53 davidnind #info if the issue is fixed close of taiga task if t exists (or add and close off if it doesn't) 13:54 davidnind #info remove keywords from the bug once patch merged or text to go in release notes field completed 13:54 davidnind hope that covers it! 13:54 davidnind thanks ashimema! 13:55 davidnind #topic Next meeting 13:56 davidnind Is everyone happy for around this time and on the 3rd or 20th October? 13:56 ashimema thankyou guys for all your hard work to date. 13:56 ashimema works for me. 13:56 caroline_catlady 20 octobre is a sunday 13:56 caroline_catlady and 3rd is during hackfest 13:57 davidnind thanks ashima for encouraging the documentation and release notes contributions! 13:57 davidnind not sure where I got the 20th from! 13:57 davidnind I think I meant the 10th! 13:58 lucyvh 10th good for me 13:58 davidnind is anyone going to Marseille? 13:58 ashimema I will be there (once I book my flights!) 13:59 davidnind sounds like it is always a great experience! 13:59 ashimema I was just discussing this with lucyvh actually.. the french often have a librarians table where they add allot to their own manual... 13:59 ashimema be nice to get something going for the community manual too.. I think some of it ends up submitted.. but allot ends up somewhere in french I believe. 14:00 ashimema it's a good time to write docs.. as the developers are often on hand to explain the features you may be trying to document. 14:01 davidnind would welcome suggestions for when they have problems translating from english that could be fixed to make translation easier 14:02 davidnind is always easier to ask developers to explain what something does 14:02 davidnind #info Next meeting 10 October 13:00 UTC 14:02 lucyvh Need to pop out now, thanks and bye all 14:02 davidnind #endmeeting 14:02 huginn Meeting ended Thu Sep 12 14:02:31 2019 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) 14:02 huginn Minutes: http://meetings.koha-community.org/2019/documentation_irc_meeting_12_september_2019.2019-09-12-13.05.html 14:02 huginn Minutes (text): http://meetings.koha-community.org/2019/documentation_irc_meeting_12_september_2019.2019-09-12-13.05.txt 14:02 huginn Log: http://meetings.koha-community.org/2019/documentation_irc_meeting_12_september_2019.2019-09-12-13.05.log.html 14:02 davidnind thanks lucyvh! 14:02 davidnind thanks everyone for attending 14:03 ashimema thanks all 14:03 caroline_catlady thanks davidnind 14:03 davidnind off to catch some zzzs 14:03 caroline_catlady sleep tight! 14:03 ashimema sleep well davidnind 14:04 davidnind thanks! will be a short one i think - need to back at work in 6 hours! 14:04 davidnind night/morning everyone! 14:15 ashimema calendar meeting script run 14:15 caroline_catlady lol +1 14:16 ashimema ps.. if you guys wanted to update the meeting agenda structure.. the default template the script uses is available and updatable. 14:16 caroline_catlady is it on the wiki? 14:17 ashimema yup 14:17 ashimema just trying to find the page 14:17 ashimema https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Documentation_IRC_meeting_Template 14:18 caroline_catlady cool thanks ashimema++ 14:18 ashimema just don't mess with the `__THING__` placeholders.. 14:18 caroline_catlady can we add some? 14:18 ashimema otherwise change it to what you guys feel is fit :) 14:18 caroline_catlady like if we wanted to add the #action from the minutes 14:18 ashimema placeholders? 14:19 ashimema ooh.. that's a cool idea.. 14:19 ashimema hmmm. 14:19 ashimema that would need some enhancements to the scripts at my end too.. but I don't see why not if you think it's a good idea. 14:19 ashimema we already read the minutes of the meeting at part of the script 14:19 ashimema so pulling out actions shouldn't be too honerous 14:19 caroline_catlady ok, I'll see with david, I think he does it manually 14:20 caroline_catlady but it would be a good reminder of who was meant to do what 14:20 ashimema totally.. I really like the idea 14:23 caroline_catlady ooh, oleonard got a makeover 14:23 oleon What now? 14:23 oleon Oh, new Chatzilla installation 14:23 caroline_catlady oleon sounds latin :) 14:35 tcohen hi all 14:36 caroline_catlady hi tcohen! 15:01 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 23599: Avoid exploding in search_with_library_limits when no library is passed <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a07e7ddb8b778fafc921564c36ea2e167c43929b> 15:01 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 23599: Regression tests <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=92b16c8e5f8f3e149c6d53fdb0f8aa9d36133299> 15:05 reiveune bye 15:33 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9 build #864: SUCCESS in 29 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9/864/ 15:35 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 15497: DBRev 19.06.00.027 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=13f83dc6e3dc5aed5651cedda78eb13e63e8a227> 15:35 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 15497: (QA follow-up) Use the methods from bug 23281 instead <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=0c6bb77333b461242c283cb0cc91be9cd49a1c5f> 15:35 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 15497: Limit itemtypes by branch in additem.pl <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=3fca44b65dfb4bc03b17df41101db52ddb52da39> 15:35 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 15497: Modify schemas <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=ff85c6812e58869f804316ef3121988be5332718> 15:35 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 15497: (QA follow-up) Fix call in search_with_localization <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b12a56c1867682e91ec2be21689ef090ae41ff20> 15:35 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 15497: Add itemtypes_branches table and atomic update <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=7a38522a1b807cb2d6c54849df7d0144c82ef7c9> 15:42 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_U18 build #349: SUCCESS in 37 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U18/349/ 15:42 oleonard tcohen: In koha-testing-docker, "warning: failed to exec 'man': No such file or directory" 15:45 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 23580: Add C4::Context->yaml_preference <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=2694e53b204128b5ba2eddf9af24a59bc37a982e> 15:45 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 23580: Unit tests <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=8ecee99a020ed1bbac31b5f0d3ef4b3cba269041> 15:45 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 16825: Add API route for getting an item <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e9e6537fae1dd921a95f55394ff2b463be8c834a> 15:45 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D8 build #380: STILL UNSTABLE in 42 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D8/380/ 15:55 tcohen oleonard: maybe it is not isntalled? 15:55 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 21058: Added HTML class to showRDAtag264 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=072a901d35844e99db65c1069b52f4f8b5ad6e5a> 15:55 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 21058: Added HTML classes in MARC21slim2_Detail.xsl <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b65fc8e176f600894a98be526922f05e9d4f000d> 15:55 oleonard It isn't! 15:55 tcohen pull request! 15:55 oleonard :) 16:21 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9 build #865: UNSTABLE in 39 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9/865/ 16:28 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D8 build #381: STILL UNSTABLE in 24 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D8/381/ 16:42 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_U18 build #350: UNSTABLE in 56 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U18/350/ 17:00 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9 build #866: STILL UNSTABLE in 38 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9/866/ 17:38 Guest2416 Hi, I'm having trouble creating tags. I don't see the default ones and it doesn't even let me create new ones. any solution? 17:38 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_U18 build #351: STILL UNSTABLE in 55 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U18/351/ 17:40 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9 build #867: STILL UNSTABLE in 29 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9/867/ 18:17 caroline_catlady Guest2416: are you talking about tags in the OPAC? 18:55 * cait1 waves 18:57 caroline_catlady hi cait1! 18:57 caroline_catlady are you cait's evil twin? 18:57 oleonard Bye all! 19:14 cait1 maybe cait's very tired twin 19:19 cait1 caroline_catlady: ^:) 19:44 * andreashm waves 20:17 Guest2416 yes, about tags on the opac 20:18 Guest2416 Bone of the label maker in the tools module 20:19 Guest2416 the ones that koha brings by default are missing and it doesn't let me make new templates 20:19 Guest2416 sCan they be installed from the terminal? as? 20:22 caroline_catlady Guest2416: ah ok! you mean labels. If you have access to the database, you can use the sample_creator_data.sql file 20:23 caroline_catlady it's in installer/data/mysql/en/optional on my computer, not sure if the hierarchy is the same 20:35 Guest2416 I rephrase my doubt How can I install libraries, user meat templates, tag creator for the items that come with testing along with koha? 20:41 caroline_catlady if you have access to your server, you can do something like ```mysql -u root -p koha_database < installer/data/mysql/en/optional/sample_creator_data.sql 20:41 caroline_catlady ``` 21:41 caroline_catlady good night!