Time  Nick             Message
06:16 * magnuse        waves
06:19 calire           morning
06:33 reiveune         hello
06:54 alex_a           Bonjour
07:22 andreashm        salut
07:22 wahanui          hi, andreashm
07:26 cait             morning #koha
07:31 liliputech_asu   morning :)
07:37 magnuse          a swedish library that upgraded to 19.05.x resports that circ rules involving "all" stopped working after the upgrade. only rules with specific itemtypes and patron categories work. anyone else seen that?
07:40 cait             oh ugh
07:40 cait             have you checked bugzilla yet?
07:40 cait             i thought there was a bug with some fallbacks, but fixed
07:43 magnuse          not yet
07:45 magnuse          bug 22247?
07:45 huginn           Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=22247 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Koha::IssuingRule->get_effective_issuing_rule has no hard fallback
08:08 lari             [09.09.19 11:27:57] <cait> but i thoguth since we know lari, we shoudl add them - do you agree?
08:08 lari             thanks for noticing :)
08:09 lari             yes we should add them :-D
08:09 cait             lari: maybe keep an eye out for wizzyrea - I won't be around much the rest of the week - travelling
08:10 cait             i left her a later, but they are easy to miss
08:10 lari             we have a koha seminar in finland too :) but no rush
08:33 cait             lari: annual bsz event, koha user meeting and a technical workshop heh
08:40 huginn           News from kohagit: Bug 22996: DBRev 19.06.00.25 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a7d5a4cc82ad7a1402eb0d11fd6d9613cadfa13a>
08:40 huginn           News from kohagit: Bug 23004: Unit test <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b26c2a18630538ee515f8e383293efd2c2928c70>
08:40 huginn           News from kohagit: Bug 23004: Missing authtype filter in auth_finder.pl <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=949e36c7b8a11cd185025a4c9e102f0e26205009>
08:40 huginn           News from kohagit: Bug 22996: Add new preference BarcodeSeparators <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b9c236ecb8534b4682939440feff86a4275658fe>
08:40 huginn           News from kohagit: Bug 22996: Move barcode separators to a preference <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=237b86006bc7880ffcf8427e2fdc1c71797d4abc>
08:59 vfernandes       hi #koha
09:13 koha-jenkins     Project Koha_Master_D9 build #862: SUCCESS in 29 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9/862/
09:18 koha-jenkins     Project Koha_Master_U18 build #346: SUCCESS in 38 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U18/346/
09:25 koha-jenkins     Project Koha_Master_D8 build #378: STILL UNSTABLE in 42 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D8/378/
09:30 magnuse          cait: and marseille :-)
10:52 cait             magnuse: that was only this week
10:52 cait             still some time to marseille
11:08 magnuse          cait: ah!
11:09 ashimema         I thought it was quiet today.. then realised I'd just not started my IRC client
11:13 cait             i noticed..
11:22 * oleonard       salutes
11:26 oleonard         ashimema around?
11:28 calire           hi oleonard
11:28 wahanui          hi oleopard
11:28 oleonard         Hi calire
11:29 ashimema         Hi
11:29 * ashimema       was making tea
11:29 oleonard         as promised I am back with docker questions
11:30 ashimema         fire away
11:30 ashimema         though I'm no docker pro.. ;)
11:30 oleonard         What to do when I run the "up" command but when I run the bash command it says the container is not running?
11:31 ashimema         er.. what bash command?
11:31 oleonard         Sorry, "docker exec -it koha_koha_1 bash"
11:32 ashimema         wierd..
11:32 ashimema         did the 'up' actually work?
11:33 ashimema         and.. do you happen to have the `export RUN_TESTS_AND_EXIT="yes"` line in your bashrc?
11:33 ashimema         if you do.. then the `up` will run up then shutdown again
11:33 ashimema         you need to not have that line to have a running docker
11:34 oleonard         Uh... I guess not... the koha container isn't listed when I do "docker container list"
11:34 oleonard         mysql, memcached, and elasticsearch are up
11:34 ashimema         that's odd
11:34 ashimema         those shouldn't come up without the koha one.
11:38 ashimema         interestingly tcohens `ku` alias adds `--force-recreate` to the up command
11:38 ashimema         may be worth running that version to get a fresh instance up to connect to
11:40 mgoss            I am doing a first time install. When I login from web I get [Tue Sep 10 06:28:13 2019] install.pl: DBD::mysql::st execute failed: BLOB, TEXT, GEOMETRY or JSON column 'changed_fields' can't have a default value at /usr/share/perl5/DBIx/RunSQL.pm line 273.
11:40 mgoss            Can anyone help woith this'
13:00 oleonard         Hi wizzyrea
13:03 wizzyrea         hi :)
13:29 oleonard         every git command in koha-testing-docker is SUPER SLOW...
13:33 magnuse          wizzyrea: did you get the @later from cait?
13:33 magnuse          about adding the finish support company?
13:33 * magnuse        gotta have some food
13:35 oleonard         14 seconds is too long to wait for "git status" to tell me stuff.
14:05 wizzyrea         I did
16:01 reiveune         bye
16:37 mjk_             So, are Koha packages available for Rasbian/ARM?
16:42 davidnind        a while ago I got Koha working on a Raspberry Pi using packages with Raspbian Lite https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_on_a_Raspberry_Pi_3_B%2B
16:42 davidnind        ^^ the instructions need updating, which is on my to do list
16:53 mjk_             Meh. My connection got interuppted.
16:54 mjk_             Anyhow, is there any reason that the armhf packages in the repo shouldn't "just work"?
16:56 mjk_             Replacing the ancient PC that my SF club is using as its Koha server and replacing it with a RasPi should be a no-brainer in terms of power usage.
17:00 tcohen           hi
17:02 mjk_             The other question is: how much ram does Koha really need? Our club has never had more than four or five concurrent users so could we get away with 2 GB of RAM?
17:03 davidnind        mjk_: can't remember exactly how or why but the [arch=i386] packages worked
17:03 davidnind        with a Raspberry Pi 3 and memcached enabled it seemed reasonably speedy
17:04 mjk_             Granted, the periods of heaviest use are during library committee work sessions when we try to get as many people cataloging as possible.
17:06 davidnind        just go a Raspberry Pi 4 with 4GB memory! (standard version has 2GB) Probably won't be able to play with this until next weekend though and test out/update install instructions :-(
17:09 mjk_             Looking forward to it.
17:11 mjk_             In the next few weeks, I plan on getting some database issues that have left a couple books unable to get checked in sorted and getting everything cleaned up so that I have a clean and unbugged dump to work from when I move servers.
17:11 davidnind        yeah for clean data!
17:13 mjk_             Our poor club has roughly a 30000 item library. We have maybe 4000 items catalogged.
17:16 davidnind        that's a bit of a backlog to work through! And all Sci-Fi?
17:17 mjk_             And fantasy
17:18 davidnind        my two favourite fiction reading categories, mostly read sci-fi these days though.
17:19 mjk_             Strangely, when we started the cataloging project, the DVD/Blu-ray collection was our top priority because it circulated so much.
17:19 mjk_             Now circulation is dead in those categories.
17:21 mjk_             And, somehow I get kicked if I switch to another tab for too long
17:23 davidnind        that's interesting...digital media format obsolescence, I guess everyone is using streaming services now
17:27 mjk_             Partly that. I suspect that the composition of the collection also has a lot to do with stuff. Lots of movies and TV from the mid 2000s through the early 2010s back when the club was rolling in cash.
17:28 davidnind        I think the web chat client has a rather short time out period (I haven't used it)
17:30 mjk_             Basically, our club's main sources of income are our annual convention and our small press which reprints classic SF that no commercial press will touch.
17:31 mjk_             The bottom has fallen out of the Classic SF reprint market over the last five or so years.
17:33 tcohen           @later tell marcelr I got it wrong regarding your BarcodeSeparator syspref
17:33 huginn           tcohen: The operation succeeded.
17:34 davidnind        that's a real shame, some of the classic stuff is really good
17:35 caroline_catlady davidnind: did you see the email that needs moderation on the koha-docs list?
17:35 mjk_             Indeed.
17:35 caroline_catlady I'm not sure what to do with it
17:37 caroline_catlady Looks like someone sent it to the docs list but it was probably meant for the regular or dev list
17:39 davidnind        caroline_catlady: will repost on main list - should have dealt with over the weekend, but have been lazy!
17:39 caroline_catlady no worries, I could have done it, I just wasnt sure
17:39 caroline_catlady Most of the stuff we have to moderate is pretty obviously spam, but not this one
17:40 caroline_catlady Unless spammers are getting reeeeeaaaalllly good! :)
17:40 davidnind        I haven't seen any spam, yet...
17:41 caroline_catlady It's true that there hasn't been any in a while... Maybe biblibre did something
17:43 davidnind        hopefully, or maybe the spammers have just given up!
17:43 davidnind        BibLibre++
17:54 davidnind        caroline_catlady: bounced message now sorted!
17:54 caroline_catlady davidnind++
18:16 oleonard         GRUMBLE
18:17 oleonard         git keeps telling me I can't apply a patch because I'll lose unstaged changes, but there aren't any