Time Nick Message 06:29 reiveune hello 06:29 wahanui que tal, reiveune 06:34 marcelr hi #koha 06:41 cait hi marcelr 06:41 cait bbl #koha 06:41 marcelr hi cait 06:44 fridolin hi 06:53 liliputech_asu hi koha 06:57 alex_a Bonjour 07:00 * magnuse waves 07:22 cait @later tell wizzyrea could you add Hypernova to list of support companies please? https://www.hypernova.fi/fi/koha/ https://lists.katipo.co.nz/pipermail/koha/2019-August/053536.html 07:22 huginn cait: The operation succeeded. 08:19 ashimema cait about? 08:19 cait yes 08:19 ashimema I can probably add Hypernova if you like 08:19 ashimema also... 08:20 cait I think i have access, just don't know how the plugin works 08:20 cait if you want to have a look that woudl be nice 08:20 ashimema bug 22744.. I've slighlty lost track of what's going no there.. 08:20 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=22744 normal, P5 - low, ---, nick, Passed QA , 'Do not notify' is really a 'Clear' option 08:20 cait improving usability 08:20 ashimema do you have a preference regarding which patch 08:20 cait compare now and the 2 patches, pick what you like best ;) 08:20 cait i lost track too and might take a whlie to find it again 08:20 ashimema okies 08:21 cait PR_END_OF_FILE_ERROR - someone seen that? 08:22 cait cert is fine for me 08:22 ashimema ok.. no idea how the support listing works.. I'll leave it to wizzy ;) 08:27 cait ashimema: i think that#s where i ended up last time too :) 08:27 cait but i thoguth since we know lari, we shoudl add them - do you agree? 08:28 ashimema hmm.. this alternative patch only applies to staff side and doesn't have the corrsponding change in the opac template 08:29 ashimema FQA ;) 08:29 ashimema I find 'Do not notify' and 'Clear' just as confusing as each other. 08:29 ashimema we don't allow for not sending notices at all do we currently.. 08:29 ashimema if you de-select all other options we default to 'print' do we not. 08:31 cait maybe "unselect all"? 08:39 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.05_U18 build #40: SUCCESS in 32 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.05_U18/40/ 08:43 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.05_D9 build #41: SUCCESS in 38 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.05_D9/41/ 08:46 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.05_D8 build #39: SUCCESS in 42 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.05_D8/39/ 10:20 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 23404: (QA follow-up) Minor fix <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=cb432e7f522f2f052d561dad3b36bc97ca7868a4> 10:20 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 23353: ACQ framework makes fr-CA web installer explode <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=811bee9bce57e67fd22562b3bb62397335b4eeb5> 10:20 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 23404: fix Circulation::TooMany error on itemtype when at biblio level <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=9e1fa801d6f1ff718d8689c855483b8b9c735a9f> 10:20 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 23404: add UT to show bug <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=445b0cb8b595136afdebaee2db3bc768b42b445b> 10:20 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 23404: Change UT calls <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e98af5828a56b52426ae7aa12d1c85e4f9fb41d2> 10:20 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 22929: Allow SCI/SCO logins independent of GDPR_Policy <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=3640130d1fbc49ddc2cc4baef53a4c4d7fea76bf> 10:36 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 23464: Compiled CSS <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=be1159df49cb8a43dbc57e2ce6ba71da1ea296be> 10:36 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 23492: Compiled CSS <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=180e708efe6e23de2c2d63bae7d96a529eff28fe> 10:36 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 23512: (follow-up) Markup comments and corrections <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a2bfe50a49e7c4c718fc2773e739c257f9071995> 10:36 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 23512: Reindent notices and slips page (letter.tt) <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=654b6df5aa344a12fd7982261a6cdb5bec42f884> 10:36 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 23464: (follow-up) QA fixes <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e4e5f96ffb2bfdc269f46f15e9cfeed1b96ea5b7> 10:36 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 23492: OPAC search facet header should not be a link at larger browser widths <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=24ee72bf29301d88ea8eaba0c3315936f5bff9b4> 10:36 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 23464: Update the process of quick spine label printing <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=efd4121941fb129adc57bca35483cd3334884820> 10:36 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 22627: Rename tab on my summary page <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=77e809ee50358498a9214df60cf3ed9e85240a7a> 10:36 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 22627: Renames OPAC fines tab to 'your charges' to be more inclusive <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=cb1d0d4e91072406f82c9da4dba4c0170b27b601> 10:36 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 21180: Allow Talking Tech outbound script to limit based on patron home library... <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=3cb66af150171abf44868f8b0bdca8f70132e4f0> 10:59 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_U18 build #344: UNSTABLE in 29 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U18/344/ 11:00 ashimema grr 11:03 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9 build #860: SUCCESS in 39 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9/860/ 11:06 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D8 build #376: STILL UNSTABLE in 43 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D8/376/ 11:28 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.05_D9 build #42: SUCCESS in 28 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.05_D9/42/ 11:29 oleonard Hi all 11:38 calire hi oleonard 11:38 wahanui hi oleopard 11:39 oleonard How are you calire? Long time no see 11:39 calire I was on holiday :) 11:39 calire I'm good thanks :D 11:40 oleonard My condolences on your return to work 11:40 calire thank you 11:40 cait .... it's not THAT bad I hope 11:40 calire well it's not a hut in the alps ;) 11:42 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.05_U18 build #41: SUCCESS in 38 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.05_U18/41/ 11:43 * oleonard ponders all the things which are not a hut in the alps 11:44 * magnuse fears oleonard will be gone a long time 11:45 * oleonard ponders all the things which are neither a hut in the alps nor a stunning Norwegian landscape 11:45 magnuse narrowing it down, good! 11:46 oleonard Those pictures really were amazing magnuse 11:46 magnuse huh, i go to /cgi-bin/koha/sco/sco-main.pl, am redirected to /cgi-bin/koha/sco/sco-main.pl?sco_user_login=1 and after 10 attempts get ERR_TOO_MANY_REDIRECTS. never saw that before 11:46 magnuse oleonard: thanks, it's a really nice place 11:48 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.05_D8 build #40: SUCCESS in 41 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.05_D8/40/ 11:54 cait magnuse: does your user have the self-check perms? they cause weid things if it's not the self-check user 11:55 cait oleonard: you were too optimistig with your margin right 11:55 cait on the new patron detail page - german is too long (again) 11:56 oleonard cait: Sounds like the default breakpoints for the Bootstrap grid are the problem. Could you file a bug? 11:56 cait staff this time 11:57 cait but it seems to happen ab it more often that we have overlap of labels and content now 11:57 cait starting to fix some with css, but maybe there is another way we could do it 11:58 cait German is just an awkward language... 11:59 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed! 11:59 wahanui Congratulations! 11:59 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_U18 build #345: FIXED in 30 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U18/345/ 12:00 cait bug 23573 12:00 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=23573 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Labels and content overlapping on patron detail page and others for some languages 12:01 oleonard Thanks cait I'll make sure to take a look 12:02 cait it would be nice, if you have an idea - but I understand if nto :) 12:02 cait oleonard: making screenshots for translated release notes... that's why i am turning up odd translation bugs today 12:02 oleonard cait++ 12:02 cait you start to really look at things 12:05 cait hm another odd thing - i added a date of birth, gut it doesn't seem to show up 12:05 cait on patrons > details 12:06 cait ah i see the problem userjs 12:16 magnuse cait: thanks for the tip, will check! 12:20 magnuse cait: the user has "self_checkout_module" rights, adding "circulate" does not change anything 12:21 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9 build #861: SUCCESS in 39 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9/861/ 12:31 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D8 build #377: STILL UNSTABLE in 43 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D8/377/ 13:01 magnuse the patron in AutoSelfCheckID was expired, but renewing it did not solve the problem 13:02 magnuse the librarian is sure it worked last week, and maybe this morning. log shows no changes to sysprefs, and no code was updated 13:09 magnuse *facepalm* it was because i tried to fix some other problem in the code... nm! 13:23 caroline_crazycatlady hello everyone! 13:23 oleonard Hi caroline_crazycatlady 13:23 oleonard Anyone know how to restart mysql in koha-testing-docker? 13:40 tuxayo Hi :) 13:40 tuxayo Thanks oleonard I didn't know about koha-testing-docker ^^ 13:40 oleonard tuxayo: I tried it during KohaCon in Portland but didn't really start using it until last week when my devbox refused to work 13:41 tuxayo Funny, I tried the KohaDevBox when my LXD container install refused to work ^^ 13:42 tuxayo > Anyone know how to restart mysql in koha-testing-docker? 13:42 tuxayo The overkill solution is to restart the container. It shouldn't be long though. 13:45 tuxayo oleonard: Do you fell that koha-testing-docker has the same reliability than the DevBox for running the tests? I have a bunch of failures in the DevBox. 13:45 tuxayo (testing current master) 13:45 oleonard tuxayo: I don't know, I'm not usually doing work that requires tests 13:46 oleonard I think part of the motivation for using it is that it is better for running tests, but I don't know the details 13:46 tuxayo Ho, I should try 13:47 tuxayo oleonard: how about the usage as a dev env to manually see and test the changes. Is it as practical as the DevBox? (with the bonus of using less RAM ^^) 13:48 oleonard tuxayo: You should really be asking ashimema or tcohen. I am but a tiny baby. 13:48 tcohen hi everyone 13:48 tuxayo ^^ 13:49 tuxayo Thanks for the feedback and pointers oleonard 13:49 tuxayo o/ tcohen 13:49 tcohen tuxayo: I moved to koha-testing-docker 13:49 tcohen for all my daily dev/QA work 13:49 tuxayo Great! 13:50 tcohen on the README I point to a setup that adds some useful bash aliases 13:50 tuxayo Does it means that the DevBox is in limited maintenance mode? 13:50 tcohen https://gitlab.com/koha-community/koha-testing-docker#aliases 13:50 tcohen people still use it 13:51 tcohen I'd say it is in limited maintenance mode 13:51 tcohen but there's been a PR to add support for Buster 13:51 tcohen so, it will depend on the users 13:51 tcohen I have it running on my box 13:51 tuxayo Thanks for the info :) 13:51 tcohen just not using it ATM 13:52 tuxayo hey fridolin o/ you don't need to be reluctant to use VirtualBox, we should just use koha-testing-docker. See previous messages. 13:53 fridolin ok indeed 13:54 tcohen @seen marcelr 13:54 huginn tcohen: marcelr was last seen in #koha 7 hours, 13 minutes, and 31 seconds ago: <marcelr> hi cait 14:03 Eduardo Pleased to meet you koha people 14:03 tuxayo hi Eduardo :) 14:03 Eduardo I' like to ask you something concerning OPAC 14:04 Eduardo hi tuxayo 14:04 Eduardo Hope this helps 14:04 Eduardo https://snipboard.io/Wcoitz.jpg 14:04 Eduardo is it posible to get something like this using the Koha intranet? 14:04 Eduardo or just I modify some config files? 14:07 oleonard What specifically do you want Eduardo? 14:10 Eduardo I'd like to make my catalog work like that 14:11 Eduardo all the details are on that page 14:11 Eduardo https://snipboard.io/qX7Vxv.jpg 14:12 Eduardo I'd just like to show that info 14:14 Eduardo and https://snipboard.io/pJPk0Z.jpg 14:14 Eduardo its about the results presentation 14:16 caroline_crazycatlady I have never seen such a presentation. There are probably changes in the .tt file? 14:37 oleonard Eduardo: Is that OPAC public? Can you share a link? 14:51 Eduardo of course! 14:52 Eduardo this is the lik 14:52 Eduardo http://tubiblioteca.utp.edu.pe/ 14:55 oleonard Eduardo: They have added custom JavaScript which does that 14:57 oleonard Oh, and perhaps a couple of extra perl scripts. So it's not a quick change. 14:58 pastebot "oleonard" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Eduardo: Custom JavaScript added to OPACUserJS" (64 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/12940 15:10 Eduardo so Sr Oleonard, it is possible to get something like that as long as someone knows Javascript 15:11 Eduardo thanks a lot, I'll try it out 15:11 oleonard I think it's probably possible even without the added perl scripts. Someone with some JavaScript experience could probably work something up 15:11 * oleonard is trying not to get distracted into trying it himself 15:12 reiveune bye 15:19 tuxayo oleonard: Eduardo : info: this is a Koha 3.18.05100 15:32 Pit-Work i have a question, our local internal koha is running a bit slow for my liking. I'm not sure what is causing it. Even loading the initial page takes 4-5 seconds. and i think its odd 15:32 Pit-Work any suggestions? 15:35 Pit-Work actually its more like 6-9 seconds, for any page to load up, weather its a search or just the main page 15:39 Eduardo Koha 3.18? isnt that a little.... outdated? 15:39 Eduardo Let see, yes, the current version is 19 15:40 Pit-Work it was 3.18 untill i updated to current stable last week, on a dev box 15:40 Pit-Work and am testing it now 15:48 Pit-Work looks like durring that wait period opac-search.pl is executing 15:49 Pit-Work but it uses a single thread on the host 15:49 Pit-Work at least i think so 15:56 caroline_crazycatlady Pit-Work: just to clarify, the Koha that is slow is the 3.18 or 19.05? 15:58 Pit-Work 19.05 15:58 Pit-Work the 3.18 is just a tad faster 15:58 Pit-Work but not much 15:59 caroline_crazycatlady and the 19.05 is on a devbox? do you know if a devbox can run plack? (I,ve only used a devbox once) 15:59 Pit-Work we had koha running for many moons but used sparingly by one person, now that the library is well populated were getting some usage from staff, and thinking of making it accessible to the public, hence my renowed interest in getting this working properly 15:59 caroline_crazycatlady After 16 or 17, you have to use plack otherwise it is painfully slow 16:00 Pit-Work the devbox is a xen host, which i copied over our 3.18 install on debian 7 and updated to 8, then updated coha, reindexed etc 16:00 Pit-Work so it should run plack with no isues 16:00 Pit-Work does plack not get enabled on koha update? 16:01 Pit-Work renowed=renewed 16:01 caroline_crazycatlady I have no idea, anyone? 16:01 Pit-Work i havent touched this koha server for years so im quite rusty when it comes to its inner workings 16:02 Pit-Work as you can tell by previous version running 3.18 hah 16:10 Pit-Work HMM after mild reading it seems that plack does not get pulled nor installed with koha update 16:10 Pit-Work i'll try to do so manually 16:11 Pit-Work also seems like template caching is not enabled either 16:16 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.05_U18 build #42: SUCCESS in 29 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.05_U18/42/ 16:28 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.05_D9 build #43: SUCCESS in 37 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.05_D9/43/ 16:30 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.05_D8 build #41: SUCCESS in 41 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.05_D8/41/ 17:31 oleonard You'll never believe how fast item searching actually is. Bug 23575 17:31 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=23575 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Template error causes item search to be submitted multiple times 18:01 oleonard On the plus side for kohadevbox... It never came to a crashing halt following an item search... 18:14 oleonard docker says 5 containers running, but "docker container list" shows none 18:18 oleonard tcohen around? 18:29 Pit-Work ooh i fund out i get 100s of warning errors in opac-error.log 18:30 Pit-Work all refering to same line in /usr/share/pearl5/MARC/File/XML.pm 18:31 Pit-Work might be causing the massive slowdowns 18:42 Pit-Work unfortunatelly i have no clue about pearl to figure out whats causing it 18:45 tcohen hi 18:46 tcohen oleonard: needed me? 18:48 oleonard Yes, docker questions if you have a moment. Is there a recommended procedure for shutting down docker before powering off my computer? 18:52 oleonard Does Ctrl-C put it in a state where it can be restarted later? 18:52 oleonard If so, is the command for restarting different than setting up a new one? 18:56 davidnind docker commands I usedocker-compose -p koha up // shortcut if aliases setup ku 18:56 davidnind docker-compose -p koha down // shortcut if aliases setup kd (destroys) 18:56 davidnind docker exec -it koha_koha_1 bash // shortcut if aliases setup kshell 18:56 davidnind docker ps // see what is running 18:56 davidnind I normally start fresh - so down destroys the instance you have created 18:57 oleonard I'd rather not start fresh every time... 18:59 davidnind haven't needed to keep current state, so not sure what the best way is to stop it it - I think if you do CTRL +C before you shut down your laptop, then you should be fine with the up command 19:01 ashimema You can keep the dB oleonard .. there a switch for that 19:01 davidnind I normally go CTRL +C, then kd (which is an alias) <-- this destroys everything, then I use ku to start up again next time I need it 19:02 oleonard I haven't tried that ashimema, I should 19:02 * oleonard has to go... more docker questions tomorrow I'm sure 19:04 davidnind Restart mysql container = docker restart koha_db_1 (default container for database) 19:05 davidnind Getting into the mysql container = docker exec -it koha_db_1 bash 19:06 davidnind To get into the database from the Koha container = koha-mysql kohadev 19:12 bdonnahue hey guys 19:12 bdonnahue looking to backup koha and found this guide: https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Backing_up_Koha 19:12 bdonnahue i had two questions... 1) is it up to date, 2) does koha not store documents? 19:13 bdonnahue (brand new to koha so sorry if 2 is a dumb question) 19:15 davidnind bdonnahue: there are no dumb questions :) 19:15 bdonnahue thanks davidnind :) 19:16 davidnind if you have uploaded documents then these are stored on the file system, so you will need to back this up as well 19:18 bdonnahue davidnind, i am still playing around with my first koha install. Where yould these docs be stored on the hdd? 19:19 davidnind not that I run anything in production, but I think you have to backup 1) the database 2) your instance configurations (if you use packages these would be under /etc/koha/sites 3) any themes and changes to the Koha files (maybe manage these using git?) 4) any uploaded files 5) any customised plugins 19:23 davidnind just trying to find the location... also you would need to backup any local cover images you have uploaded as well 19:24 davidnind if you anyone around with system administration experience, and other GNU/Linux servers running, then adopting whatever backup and image tools they have would be recommended 19:30 davidnind bdonnahue: looks like uploads are stored in /var/lib/koha/kohadev/uploads (this is the default in an instance's configuration file) - I think that this includes cover images, as well as any other files uploaded 19:31 bdonnahue davidnind, the admin is me haha. I am thiking I can mount an nfs share on that dir and the mack regular archives of the dir 19:32 davidnind bdonnahue: the path after /var/lib/koha will depend on your instance(s) name(s) 19:32 bdonnahue right, thanks! forgot about that 19:35 davidnind bdonnahie: lucky you :-D, hopefully someone who runs Koha in real life can share what they do for system backups 19:40 bdonnahue would also be curious if anyone has setup a multi master cluster or at least HA 19:44 davidnind bdonnahue: I'm sure some has, particularly the Koha support providers and those running larger systems 20:29 * andreashm waves