Time  Nick             Message
22:43 kathryn          yes it's a koha service for schools rather than a shared service, am hoping for examples of lots of schools working together in an organised way or shared instance - we'll see!
22:41 caroline_catlady It may be just a branding things
22:41 caroline_catlady https://kohaforschools.com.au
22:40 caroline_catlady I know Calyx has a Koha school program, but I'm not sure how it works
22:39 kathryn          I will, hopefully we hear some more school examples, we'll see
22:39 caroline_catlady If you need more info, let me know
22:38 caroline_catlady no problem!
22:38 kathryn          *your
22:38 kathryn          good night and thanks for you email caroline_catlady :)
22:34 caroline_catlady good night everyone!
21:52 oleonard         Yay I finally get to go home! See y'all later!
21:17 cait             :P
21:16 cait             we should add that
21:16 caroline_catlady It's probably a literal translation from the german word ;)
21:16 cait             ... on thefly
21:16 caroline_catlady lol!! love it!
21:16 cait             lol
21:15 oleonard         Perfect: https://zivotdesign.com/p/view.php?p=15658173226729
21:10 cait             sorry... getting late here
21:10 cait             ah
21:10 oleonard         Yes it could be misinterpreted as barcode label
21:10 cait             print label?
21:10 cait             isn't that even longer?
21:07 caroline_catlady it could be barcode label?
21:07 cait             for translating a verb is often helpful
21:07 cait             do we need spine?
21:07 cait             hm it would not fit with the rest
21:05 caroline_catlady maybe it's not best practices not to put a verb on a button, i don't know...
21:03 caroline_catlady could you put "Spine label" on the button and the printer acts as the context "print" ?
20:59 cait             worse in german :)
20:58 oleonard         "Print spine label" is so long
20:58 oleonard         It seems weird to have a heading for "Spine label" but it does add context to the "Print label" button... https://zivotdesign.com/p/view.php?p=15658162441600
20:48 kathryn          and hi errybody else too :)
20:48 kathryn          hi oleonard :)
20:48 alexbuckley      hi oleonard :)
20:48 oleonard         Hi kathryn
20:47 oleonard         Hi alexbuckley
20:26 cait             but not easy right now
20:25 cait             i am trying to keep on top of the worst ones a bit. that are freshly filed
20:25 cait             thx
20:23 ashimema         But that one is right at the top of the list
20:23 ashimema         I'm struggling to find time for a few bugs at the moment 😔
20:21 cait             because it does worry me too regards our update to 18.11
20:21 cait             glad to see ashimema poppe dup
20:21 cait             it does
20:21 andreashm        just mentioned it looked bad. =)
20:18 cait             yes?
20:14 andreashm        cait: the bug you just linked to (previous fines being overwritten)
20:11 * oleonard       doesn't even know what hold notes are used for
20:10 * oleonard       was trying to add a note to an in-transit hold, that's why it wasn't working
20:09 * ashimema       aims to look at that one tomorrow.. need to try and recreate it
20:08 cait             sorry?
20:01 * andreashm      now worries about that one since we are just upgrading to 18.11 (this week)
20:01 andreashm        cait: that one does look bad
19:41 cait             caroline_catlady++
19:41 huginn`          Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=23454 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Fine for the previous overdue may get overwritten by the next one
19:41 cait             bug 23454 worries me
19:41 caroline_catlady I think I will put my footer on the wiki as an example... I'm sure I'm not the only one who needs something like taht
19:40 andreashm        hi cait
19:40 cait             Joubu: there are some bad bugs around atm, thx for fixing some :)
19:40 cait             hi andreashm!
19:40 cait             but collecting links so far :)
19:39 cait             i still have to learn about TT notices too.. haven't really dived into it yet
19:38 caroline_catlady I didn't even know what that table was for, now I understand :)
19:37 * oleonard       wonders if calire had to bake Apfelstrudel to get German citizenship
19:36 cait             ok, back to the oven
19:36 cait             first one ever, so we will see :)
19:36 cait             caroline_catlady: the table here should help: https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Notices_with_Template_Toolkit
19:36 caroline_catlady yum!
19:36 oleonard         Yum
19:36 * cait           is trying to make "Apfelstrudel"
19:34 cait             just finished cooking - then hopefully another go at the auth_values patches :)
19:34 cait             nice to see you
19:34 cait             hi :)
19:34 Joubu            hi cait!
19:34 cait             with the variables
19:34 Joubu            oleonard: why not?
19:34 cait             i will find the link
19:34 cait             Joubu:  caroline_catlady Josef started a list on the wiki
19:33 caroline_catlady hi!
19:32 * cait           waves at Joubu, caroline_catlady and oleonard
19:27 * oleonard       is taking stabs in the dark
19:26 oleonard         I guess $hold->set at line 939 of Reserves.pm can't accept a "reservenotes" parameter?
19:18 caroline_catlady ok thanks!
19:17 Joubu            caroline_catlady: to know how to name the variables for the TT syntax you can refer to https://gitlab.com/koha-community/Koha/blob/master/C4/Letters.pm#L1461
19:17 caroline_catlady so are the variables the same for all notices?
19:17 caroline_catlady yass! Thank you Joubu++
19:16 caroline_catlady ooh! It worked for the library with 3 lines! :D Ok trying with a library with just one
19:15 Joubu            I thought we renamed the variables
19:14 caroline_catlady ok will try that
19:14 Joubu            [% branch.branchaddress %]
19:13 Joubu            ho, it's "branch", sorry
19:13 caroline_catlady just because it's easy to test :)
19:13 caroline_catlady CHECKOUT
19:13 Joubu            which template are you editing?
19:12 caroline_catlady maybe it's not branchaddress?
19:11 caroline_catlady it doesn't work
19:11 koha-jenkins     Project Koha_Master_D8 build #350: FAILURE in 1 min 32 sec: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D8/350/
19:11 Joubu            yes
19:11 caroline_catlady like this? [% IF library.branchaddress2 %] [% library.branchaddress2 %]<br/> [% END %]
19:11 huginn`          Joubu: The operation succeeded.
19:11 Joubu            @later tell tcohen Jenkin's run #349 was running forever, I aborted it. Jenkin's report may have filled the disk space however
19:11 Joubu            erk
19:11 huginn`          Joubu: The operation succeeded.
19:11 Joubu            @later tell ashimema Jenkin's run #349 was running forever, I aborted it. Jenkin's report may have filled the disk space however
19:10 huginn`          Joubu: The operation succeeded.
19:10 Joubu            @later tell ashimema Jenkin's run #349 was running forever, I aborted it
19:10 koha-jenkins     Project Koha_Master_D8 build #349: ABORTED in 1 day 8 hr: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D8/349/
19:08 caroline_catlady ok thanks Joubu, I will try that
19:08 Joubu            but you need to pick the right variables
19:08 * oleonard       did not know that
19:08 caroline_catlady that's what khall told us
19:08 Joubu            yes you can
19:08 oleonard         Can you mix syntaxes like that? TT and the old style?
19:08 Joubu            not "branches"
19:08 Joubu            use "library"
19:08 caroline_catlady ^ this is what I have right now but it doesn't print even if the library has an address2 and address3
19:07 pastebot         "caroline_catlady" at pasted "This is my footer" (8 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/6892
19:07 caroline_catlady I'm basing my template on https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Notices_with_Template_Toolkit#Make_choices
19:06 caroline_catlady I'm trying to use conditions to show branches.address2 and branches.address3 in notices only if the library has those filled out
19:05 caroline_catlady hi Joubu! I didn't know you were around :)
19:04 Joubu            caroline_catlady: What's the question? :)
19:04 caroline_catlady anyone good with TT around?
19:04 caroline_catlady TT = T_T
18:32 koha-jenkins     Project Koha_18.11_D9 build #151: SUCCESS in 26 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_18.11_D9/151/
18:26 koha-jenkins     Project Koha_18.11_U18 build #144: SUCCESS in 34 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_18.11_U18/144/
18:09 caroline_catlady oleonard++
18:09 caroline_catlady and thank you!
18:06 caroline_catlady ah I see it now sorry! :)
18:05 koha-jenkins     Project Koha_18.11_D8 build #152: FIXED in 22 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_18.11_D8/152/
18:05 wahanui          Congratulations!
18:05 koha-jenkins     Yippee, build fixed!
18:04 caroline_catlady oleonard: does your code copy it immediately or just after save?
17:52 koha-jenkins     Project Koha_18.11_D9 build #150: SUCCESS in 33 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_18.11_D9/150/
17:47 pastebot         "oleonard" at pasted "Copy date and price data during item add" (16 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/6878
17:45 oleonard         I've got some JS you can use, let me look...
17:44 caroline_catlady it works with cardnumber and userid so I though it would work there too
17:44 caroline_catlady (sorry I was out on luch)
17:44 caroline_catlady oleonard: yes, I want to auto-fill the replacement cost with the price (952$v with 952$g)
17:43 koha-jenkins     Project Koha_18.11_U18 build #143: SUCCESS in 27 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_18.11_U18/143/
17:42 lisettelatah     oleonard: could you set it as a preference so people who wanted to print as default could and others could just confirm? Though with consortium like ours that would still be a problem because not all the branches have printers.
17:09 oleonard         (we didn't want 'print' to be the default until we got slip printers)
17:09 oleonard         Choosing the default might be going too far. Maybe just focus on the first button on the left.
17:08 oleonard         Default focus and focus style for hold modal buttons? https://zivotdesign.com/p/view.php?p=15658024645569
16:49 oleonard         caroline_catlady: Are you trying to use the id to apply some JS or CSS?
16:48 oleonard         ...if I recall correctly...
16:48 oleonard         The inputs get a randomized number attached to their id so that they can be tied to cataloging plugins
16:45 caroline_catlady input id="tag_952_subfield_g_330576" and when I Ctrl+F5, it becomes tag_952_subfield_g_586648
16:44 caroline_catlady why does the id of an input field change in the new items form?
16:19 cait             bye all :)
16:13 huginn`          Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=23462 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Unable to delete a patron list
16:13 cait             bug 23462
16:12 cait             23462 is a bit odd too
15:59 oleonard         Oh yeah, and it should be styled like a button
15:57 cait             i thin it#s this one: SpineLabelShowPrintOnBibDetails
15:57 * oleonard       thought he checked
15:57 oleonard         Oh I must have completely missed it when I was looking at the template
15:56 cait             to make it show up
15:56 cait             oleonard: oh i saw your comment on one of the bug - the label printer thing on the item table is a pref
15:56 cait             labels, label printing, labelling ...
15:55 oleonard         No, but every once in a while he'll magically appear when someone mentions labels
15:55 cait             oleonard: haven't seen him in a long time
15:52 * oleonard       wonders if he had to say chris_n's name 3 times
15:27 cait             not including the #koha one i missed : (
15:26 cait             this day had way too many meetings
15:26 cait             I think kilt
15:26 caroline_catlady rofl!
15:25 cait             we think that too
15:25 cait             yeah :)
15:25 caroline_catlady I understood, but I thought it was nicer
15:25 cait             lol
15:25 cait             i emant it more globally #koha... but... hm. royal we.
15:25 oleonard         Your devs could probably sport a nice tweed jacket. That might suit them.
15:25 caroline_catlady lol, god = cait and she uses the royal we, I love it ;)
15:24 cait             neither can we :)
15:24 caroline_catlady god I can't type...
15:24 caroline_catlady *spot
15:24 caroline_catlady I will check with my devs before to see if they can sport something
15:23 oleonard         You could invoke the name of chris_n
15:23 cait             mailing list maybe?
15:23 cait             not good
15:22 caroline_catlady there is nothing in the help nor in the manual
15:21 cait             bet on
15:21 cait             i would have be ton \n
15:21 cait             it generates pdf
15:21 oleonard         I wonder if that's a bug in the text-escaping stuff
15:20 cait             hm have you checked the context help?
15:19 caroline_catlady Is there a way of making line returns in patron card text fields? I've tried with <br/> (it just prints <br/>) dans \n (the pdf doesn't open)
15:04 * cait           waves
15:02 caroline_catlady good mornin oleonard
14:56 oleonard         Hi all
14:31 reiveune         bye
14:31 reiveune         ye
13:45 * thd            goes back to a little unavoidable screen scraping ugg
13:44 tcohen           ashimema++
13:42 ashimema         thanks all
13:41 huginn`          Log:            http://meetings.koha-community.org/2019/general_irc_meeting_14_august_2019.2019-08-14-13.00.log.html
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13:41 ashimema         #endmeeting
13:41 ashimema         #info Next meeting: 11 September 2019, 21:00 UTC
13:41 ashimema         done
13:41 ashimema         so seems mostly reasonable..
13:41 ashimema         UTC 21 is UK 22, NZ 09 and US (new york) 17
13:39 thd              No problems.
13:39 ashimema         speak now if anyone has any problems with that proposal
13:39 thd              I have generally been confused by directional drift as local time has changed seasonally.
13:38 ashimema         11 September 2019, 21:00 UTC
13:38 ashimema         21:00 looks like the time we've usually alternated to for NZ for General meetings
13:37 ashimema         20:30 has been the dev meeting time that we've caught NZ
13:37 cait             seems good
13:37 cait             9 am
13:37 thd              Is 21 UTC the time with is now catching people in NZ?
13:36 ashimema         2100 UTC
13:36 ashimema         11th September then?
13:36 thd              I have no actual objection to the first week personally.
13:36 ashimema         mm, perhaps leave it a week to try and catch people once they've actually returned
13:35 thd              The first week in September is the end of customary academic holidays in many places.
13:34 ashimema         ooh.. I'm not around then, heading home from anual leave
13:34 ashimema         First wednesday of the month as usual... any obvious problems?
13:33 ashimema         #topic Set time of next meeting
13:32 ashimema         okies.. lets move on then
13:31 kidclamp         can we flatter him into returning
13:31 ashimema         and wizzyrea is storming ahead on the SO stats :)
13:30 kidclamp         Joubu++
13:30 ashimema         though it's nice to have kidclamp back on QA after his stint as RM :)
13:30 ashimema         we certainly notice Joubu's absence too.
13:30 ashimema         he dashboard is telling.. it's the usual suspects doing SO and QA..
13:29 ashimema         thanks tcohen :)
13:29 tcohen           ashimema: I will try to do more QA for the rest of the cycle
13:28 cait             ashimema: not sure about that... herding cats is hard :)
13:28 ashimema         could be a nice short meeting today
13:28 caroline_catlady #info Caroline Cyr La Rose, inLibro
13:27 ashimema         any questions for the RM ?
13:27 ashimema         Katrin has been doing a great job rounding up the troops for QA as ever, thanks cait
13:26 ashimema         I feel dev meetings have been going reasonably well and are a little more inclusive again now we have moved the late slot a little later again to catch the NZ croud.
13:25 ashimema         #info 10 of the above bugs were Sponsored, thankyou sponsors :)
13:25 ashimema         #info 224 Bugs pushed to date, 158 bugfixes, 65 enhancements and 1 new feature.
13:24 ashimema         #info We are 3 months into the cycle and 2 weeks into a 2 month window for adventurous pushing.
13:23 ashimema         #topic Update from the RM
13:22 ashimema         at least a couple in my own queue.. I best get to writing patches for those
13:21 ashimema         so not huge numbers.. but there are a fair few 'New' that need looking at
13:21 ashimema         6 'Major' in NSO, 1 in NQA
13:21 ashimema         only the bugs highlighted in the koha dashboard
13:20 tcohen           is there a list?
13:20 wahanui          well, rmaints is fridolin, lucas and wizzyrea
13:20 ashimema         rmaints?
13:19 ashimema         #info Fridolin sends his apologies for not making the meeting. 19.05.x series in in reasonable shape, he's keeping up with bugfixes well but we do have a few bugs still making their way through the SO/QA process
13:18 ashimema         #topic Stable releases
13:18 ashimema         #topic Update on releases
13:18 ashimema         OK.. moving on..
13:17 ashimema         They have not yet called for speakers, but should be doing so any day now I believe
13:16 ashimema         #link https://2020.kohacon.org/ Kohacon20
13:16 ashimema         #info Kohacon20 is all set to take place 19th-25th October in Wellington NZ
13:15 ashimema         #info koha-US Conference is next month in Pueblo, CO from September 18-21
13:15 tcohen           #info Tomas Cohen Arazi
13:14 wahanui          salut, tcohen
13:14 tcohen           hi
13:14 lisettelatah     The koha-US conference is next month in Pueblo, CO from September 18-21.
13:14 thd              I do not intend to worry much about it but it seems t be the only mysterious table for which I do not have a nice MySQL structure to migrate.
13:13 ashimema         shall we move on.. anyone else got any announcements?
13:13 ashimema         I think I wouldn't worry too much about it
13:12 thd              Yes, it is populated.  Guessing from the database username owning the table it may have been something created in the first day of starting with MediaWiki after which we started again with a different database username.
13:11 ashimema         is it populated?
13:10 ashimema         not I
13:09 thd              Does anyone know the origin of the anonymized_mwuser table in MediaWiki?
13:09 huginn`          Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=23073 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmc, NEW , wiki.koha-community.org needs updating to a later version
13:09 ashimema         #into See bug 23073 for ongoing progress
13:08 thd              I do have one question.
13:08 ashimema         #info thd has made good progress with migrating our existing MediaWiki from Postgres to MySQL.. the first step towards upgrading.
13:08 huginn`          Bug 23073: normal, P5 - low, ---, gmc, NEW , wiki.koha-community.org needs updating to a later version
13:08 thd              https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=23073
13:07 wahanui          darn tootin' it is.
13:07 ashimema         oh, excellent
13:07 thd              I have updated the bug report.
13:07 thd              As the agenda is empty  I want to announce good progress with migrating the Koha MediaWiki database from Postgres to MySQL.
13:06 ashimema         fire away thd
13:06 thd              Yes.
13:06 ashimema         Hmm, does anyone have any?
13:06 ashimema         #topic Announcements
13:04 ashimema         we'll give people another minute or two.. seem to be trickling in
13:03 khall            #info Kyle M Hall, ByWater Solutions
13:03 kidclamp         #info Nick Clemens, ByWater Solutions
13:02 lisettelatah     #info Lisette Scheer, Latah County Library District
13:02 thd              #info Thomas Dukleth, Agogme, New York City
13:02 jzairo           #info Jessica Zairo, ByWater Solutions
13:02 Charles_Quain    #info Charles Quain Interleaf Technology
13:01 ashimema         #info Martin Renvoize, PTFS Europe
13:01 ashimema         Please use #info to introduce yourselves
13:01 ashimema         #topic Introductions
13:01 huginn`          Current chairs: ashimema cait
13:01 ashimema         #chair cait
13:01 Charles_Quain    Hi All
13:00 huginn`          The meeting name has been set to 'general_irc_meeting_14_august_2019'
13:00 huginn`          Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.
13:00 huginn`          Meeting started Wed Aug 14 13:00:53 2019 UTC.  The chair is ashimema. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
13:00 ashimema         #startmeeting General IRC meeting 14 August 2019
13:00 ashimema         Shall we kick it off then :)
12:57 magnuse          hiya corilynn
12:55 ashimema         mornin' cari lynn
12:54 corilynn         good morning from Alaska!
12:54 * ashimema       dashes off to get tea
12:54 ashimema         yup..
12:53 ashimema         lol
12:53 magnuse          Slainte Charles_Quain
12:53 magnuse          ashimema: in 7 minues?
12:52 ashimema         meeting soon ladies and gents :)
12:42 eythian          cait: https://www.the-american-interest.com/2019/08/03/what-germans-are-reading/
11:55 ashimema         :)
08:53 magnuse          kia ora ashimema
08:29 ashimema         mornin' #koha
07:31 cait             good morning #koha
07:21 * magnuse        waves
06:59 wahanui          niihau, alex_a
06:59 alex_a           bonjour
06:41 reiveune         hello