Time Nick Message 22:49 caroline_catlady have a good weekend all! 20:43 martin_ sudo koha-remove librarian Removing Koha instance librarian ERROR 1133 (28000) at line 1: Can't find any matching row in the user table 20:32 caroline_catlady what do you mean by instance? 20:30 martin_ hello i'am having trouble removing an instance in koha 18:44 * cait might not be human 18:44 tcohen khall: can you rephrase https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_Plugin_Hooks#Implemented_hooks so humans can read it? 18:44 wahanui cait, I didn't have anything matching what do you mean 18:44 cait wahanui: forget what do you mean? 18:43 cait not understsanding it 18:43 wahanui i think do you mean is reserves.tt the only place where a hold gets placed? 18:43 tcohen what do you mean? 18:43 cait tcohen: it could be me :) 18:43 * cait waves at khall :) 18:41 cait but htank you :) 18:41 tcohen I will ask a native speaker 18:40 cait i have no idea what it means 18:40 cait tcohen: could you maybe rephrase the first sentence? 18:39 tcohen cait: https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_Plugin_Hooks#Implemented_hooks 18:11 cait tcohen: ^ 18:06 mtompset tcohen, that one is harder. 18:03 cait https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_Plugin_Hooks 18:02 cait i probably coul dnot do more then really start it 17:58 tcohen cait: if you start a wiki page about plugin hooks I can write some lines about the ones I've just added (after_biblio_action and after_item_action) 17:53 tcohen mtompset: I expected you to fix the 'how to resize the VM filesystem issue' as well :-D 17:52 * tcohen saw 17:43 mtompset tcohen, added an issue and a PR to kohadevbox. :) 17:28 oleonard Bye all 16:44 mtompset Though, I think I may have read somewhere that Chrome won't play nice unless you have https. 16:42 mtompset I suspect my privacy extensions are getting in the way. 16:42 mtompset Had problems with Chrome. 16:42 oleonard Why? 16:41 mtompset had to use FireFox. 16:41 mtompset Plugged and unplugged. :) 16:41 mtompset I successfully tested it on my windows box, running kohadevbox on my laptop. 16:41 mtompset Sweet! 16:38 oleonard It works for me in that I have no webcam and it correctly hides the option 16:37 mtompset even when you unplug the webcam? 16:31 oleonard Looks to me like it works 16:27 mtompset but as the commit says, it is hard to test on a laptop with webcam built in. :) 16:27 oleonard cool 16:27 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6815 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Needs Signoff , Capture member photo via webcam 16:27 mtompset oleonard, I have attempted a webcam detect/show, not-detected/hide patch on bug 6815. 16:26 mtompset Have a good weekend ashimema 16:26 ashimema bbq time :) 16:26 ashimema laters #koha 16:26 huginn` ashimema: The operation succeeded. 16:26 ashimema @later tell wizzyrea On monday lets talk about koha-push in the release tools repo.. I 'think' in most cases it should work for rmaints now... but I need to document it and wouldn't mind some feedback for if it's actually usefull to that broader audience 16:23 cait you too! 16:18 ashimema have a good weekend all 16:18 ashimema mwah.. it's late on a friday.. I'm gonna go join the family.. 16:12 ashimema (in relation to updating the koha release tools additions I've made for updating bz on push to be more widely usable) 16:11 ashimema just checking if I was doing the 'norm' or was a bit random 16:11 * ashimema had 18.11.x and 18.05.x as branches whilst he was rmaint 16:11 * ashimema has 'upstream' as my names remote that points to community git and '19.06.x' as my branch 16:10 ashimema how do you have your branches and remotes setup for release maintanence? 16:10 ashimema random question for you wizzyrea.. 16:09 wizzyrea hi everybody 16:05 cait he is usually not on irc, but was really fast when i messed with one of his bugs this morning 16:03 oleonard tcohen: because we don't see drojf around much anymore 16:02 tcohen oleonard: why the sad-face? 16:00 tcohen hi all 15:15 cait have a nice weekend all! 15:13 cait sorry, wa s not around for a bit - packing up to leave the office 15:13 ashimema mason may also be a good one to ask.. as the other packaging maint 15:08 oleonard sad-face 15:08 ashimema happy to email Mirko to get him involved though.. sometimes it needs a more direct aproach to catch him these days 15:07 ashimema sorry.. that's a bit of a duck out 15:07 ashimema like tcohen, yourself and mirko ;) 15:07 ashimema well.. I'm game for the change and really will go with the advice given by people closer to the problem than me ;) 15:06 ashimema indeed 15:06 mtompset ashimema, given that we don't support jessie, I don't see a problem with changing squeeze-dev to stretch. The issue that might get weird is the 16.06~git change. 15:05 oleonard I look forward to trying it when I'm at a computer with a webcam 15:05 mtompset I just hacked something together yesterday based on the comment from tcohen. 15:04 mtompset oleonard, not sure how to do that. 15:02 ashimema as in.. I understand what you mean.. but don't really have any forsight as to what any repurcussions may be. 15:02 ashimema I'm afraid I have no idea what that means really 15:02 mtompset And what about changing the default name from 16.06~git? 15:02 oleonard mtompset: Would it be possible to do a webcam feature-check before displaying the option to take a picture? 15:02 mtompset ashimema, while I remember... would you and/or mirko be adverse to a bug to change squeeze-dev as the default distribution in build-git-snapshot? 15:00 mtompset Oh there it is, huginn` you scared me for a moment. :) 15:00 * mtompset gasps, "Have we lost the bot?!" 14:59 * ashimema would love to jump into that one day 14:59 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6815 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Needs Signoff , Capture member photo via webcam 14:59 mtompset cait, bug 6815 ;) 14:59 ashimema I'm sure it's doable.. just challenging and costly 14:59 mtompset Greetings, #koha caroline_catlady cait ashimema 14:58 mtompset cait, don't blame MARC. My name has a 'k'. :P 14:58 caroline_catlady other than links what are the challenging functionalities? 14:56 ashimema but we tie allot of our challenging functionality into the templates 14:56 reiveune bye 14:56 ashimema indeed 14:55 caroline_catlady but that's not really MARC, that's the thing, it would be the same even without MARC 14:55 caroline_catlady ah you mean the links and things 14:54 ashimema that's even more interlinked 14:54 ashimema bibframe 14:54 ashimema like, the templates don't just expose fields.. they also govern a fair bit of functionality 14:54 ashimema it's not 'MARC' per say, but the logic that you can derive from it 14:54 caroline_catlady what's the new framework again? libframe? 14:54 ashimema not really 14:53 caroline_catlady but MARC in itself is pretty straightforward no? 14:53 cait caroline_catlady: i am blaming MARC 14:52 cait that way cou could get the updates in, but still do your own thing 14:52 cait and allow for inheritance... overwriting them if you want 14:52 caroline_catlady i know, it really sucks. there has to be an easier way to do this 14:52 cait like... have a template for each field 14:52 cait my idea would be to do more with templates 14:52 cait the logic is very complicated in some cases... so general templates don't work super well most of the time 14:51 cait you can always file bugs to add missing fields 14:51 cait yes 14:50 caroline_catlady since the xslt doesn't have all the fields 14:50 caroline_catlady but it only works to hide things, not to show things, right? 14:47 cait because some of our fields had not the right setting, just becaue it never worked... 14:47 cait field is not visible doh. 14:47 cait caroline_catlady: led to a lot of headscratching to find out why something would no longer display itht he xslt... 14:45 caroline_catlady ah ok, we only upgrade our clients with the .05, so 18.05 would have been the first to work that way 14:45 cait i think 17.11 might be the first it worked with 14:45 ashimema indeed 14:45 cait which i forget all the time because it didn't use to work. 14:45 caroline_catlady I haven't tried in a while, but it never worked for me 14:45 cait but you can totally use the visibility settings for a few versions ow 14:44 cait but having 'all the fields' is a big task 14:44 wahanui i think really is good to have josef_moravec back.. always get a boost from seeing a bunch of signoffs :) 14:44 caroline_catlady really? 14:44 cait exactly that works now 14:44 cait well es 14:44 cait caroline_catlady: nope 14:44 caroline_catlady but couldn't we minimally have an xslt with all the fields and use the OPAC and Intranet check boxes in the marc framework to hide or show the fields? 14:44 ashimema but.. you'd never get upgrades 14:43 ashimema I'm sure we could do the same in koha ;) 14:43 cait the hiding 14:43 ashimema in rebus:list the templates were in the db and user customisable 14:43 cait caroline_catlady: it works now 14:43 oleonard caroline_catlady: Because it's too complicated, basically 14:43 ashimema xslt was meant to help in flexability and things 14:43 caroline_catlady The OPAC records in the system we had in the library where I worked was completely customizable so we could arrange it how we liked it 14:43 ashimema they were prior to the xslt template weren't they ;)? 14:42 caroline_catlady Is there a reason why the fields cannot be shown/hidden from the staff interface? I asked that my first week here and blou and eric just laughed in my face ;) 14:42 ashimema within xml blocks 14:42 ashimema it does things like make sure all the attributes are always in the same order 14:41 * ashimema was tempted to suggest we do that in koha core to be honest 14:41 ashimema the diff was significantly easier to read 14:41 oleonard Cool ashimema I was Googling the other day methods for validating XSLT 14:41 ashimema I'd take the new version from upstream.. run it through the above, then vimdiff it to the customised version from last time 14:41 ashimema so i ended up with two commits each time 14:40 ashimema I never found git did a decnt job of merging 14:40 cait trying to keep changes in the origial to a minimum when possible 14:40 cait and then use templates 14:40 cait that i import at the top of the normal xslt 14:40 ashimema $ diff 1.xml 2.xml 14:40 ashimema $ xmllint --c14n FileB.xml > 2.xml 14:40 ashimema $ xmllint --c14n FileA.xml > 1.xml 14:40 cait actually i am using a utils file 14:40 caroline_catlady ashimema: I know blou worked a lot on keeping ours tidy (I heard a lot of swearing for his corner of the office) 14:40 cait you can read that as a no :) 14:40 cait ? 14:40 ashimema as in.. canonicalised xml? 14:39 ashimema do you guys tidy your xslt's before comparing 😉 ? 14:39 * oleonard is still trying to get previous XSLT customizations to work on our upgraded-to-18.11.x system 14:38 cait one commit... 14:38 cait so the idea was that i will put the xslt in our main repo when i make a new rebased branch from community 14:38 * ashimema liked the idea of having them in their own repo outside of koha source entirely 14:38 ashimema I've never got us to settle on one method 14:38 ashimema we have lots of different methods in the wild... :( 14:38 cait caroline_catlady: we have package installations - oe package to rule them all 14:38 caroline_catlady ^ +1 14:37 ashimema we do customise.. but they're a darn pain to maintain 14:37 caroline_catlady ours are on different branches, so libraries who want their xslt customised have their own xslt on their own branch 14:37 ashimema we often wonder the same 14:37 cait hm 14:37 ashimema might want to look into git submodules 14:36 ashimema (you'd have to setup a second nfs mount yourself) 14:36 cait one is for a manuscript library, one is for a library that has knd of their own catalouging rules and one is standard for all the rest 14:36 ashimema doing it outside of the sync repo is going to be challenging if you're wanting to work in devbox 14:36 cait caroline_catlady: we do... but we have about 3 different files atm 14:36 caroline_catlady I was wondering if other people customized their xslt... good to know 14:35 cait so i can commit my heart out there without our rebase getting so confusingly long 14:35 ashimema as in.. what's the problem you're solving 14:35 cait I am trying ot put our xslt in their own repo 14:35 ashimema what are you trying to do cait? 14:35 ashimema hmm 14:34 cait so maybe not kohaclone 14:34 cait ashimema: looking for where to stick a new repo 14:34 ashimema yes.. so long as sync is set 14:34 ashimema stick anything in the source tree dir and you'll find it in both devbox and host 14:34 oleonard If you have sync set up 14:34 ashimema kohaclone ;) 14:33 cait I seem to remember there is a directory that devbox and host share... can someone remind me? 14:26 caroline_catlady teamwork++ 14:25 vfernandes thanks for the help cait, caroline_catlady and oleonard 14:25 cait cool ) 14:24 vfernandes specific note + jQuery 14:24 vfernandes *work 14:24 vfernandes cait: insert a specific note will wokr 14:23 caroline_catlady right I had brief history 14:22 caroline_catlady ah, I might no have full history turned on 14:22 cait i see 14:22 cait [off] https://hfjs.bsz-bw.de/cgi-bin/koha/opac-serial-issues.pl?selectview=full&biblionumber=5970 14:22 vfernandes yes 14:22 cait full history? 14:22 vfernandes caroline_catlady: click on more details 14:22 cait le tme check one of ours 14:22 caroline_catlady subscription tab 14:21 cait caroline_catlady: where are you looking? 14:21 caroline_catlady I don't see my waiting issue in the opac... 14:21 caroline_catlady hm, I'm having trouble reproducing... https://snag.gy/r6yoXn.jpg https://snag.gy/mDtc5G.jpg 14:20 cait yo might also be able to hide all waiting for irregular pattersn - they have no date, so look slightly different 14:20 vfernandes humm good idea 14:20 cait an idea for a workaround... have them enter something in the issues note they want to not show and use that for hiding it in the opac? 14:19 cait it's not possible to not generate the next issue on receiving 14:19 cait it's not how things work right now 14:18 vfernandes because we may be hiding numbers that we are really waiting for... this problem happens mostly in irregular subscriptions. Koha generates an automatic waiting issue, it appears on OPAC and they don't want that... they want to add it manually with waiting status and then it should appear on OPAC 14:13 cait vfernandes: why not? 14:13 cait no item for waiting i mean, so items are not the problem, only the serials display 14:13 cait oleonard: the item is not generated there 14:13 cait yeah i would suggest the same 14:13 vfernandes caroline_catlady: JQuery is an option but we can't hide all waiting issues... 14:12 caroline_catlady because the item is only create upon receiving 14:12 caroline_catlady They would have to change the item record, but we want to save them steps 14:11 * oleonard is not familiar enough with serials to know if the OpacHiddenItems preference could be leveraged here 14:10 caroline_catlady like if the status is "Waiting", then don't show it 14:10 vfernandes they only want to suppress the automatically generated issue 14:10 caroline_catlady My first thought would be JQuery 14:09 caroline_catlady I don't think suppressing the record would work because they would want to see the received issues 14:08 oleonard i.e. Can that record be suppressed automatically somehow? 14:08 oleonard I think it would be worth looking at the OPAC issue rather than the generated serial issue 14:07 vfernandes they want to manual add the new serial when they want instead of the system create a new one when receiving another... the main reason is not to show on OPAC the waiting issue 14:04 oleonard what she said ^ 14:04 caroline_catlady what he said ^ 14:03 oleonard vfernandes: It would be interesting to know exactly why they requested the change. Perhaps there's an underlying issue 14:03 caroline_catlady knowing what their end goal is might help find a solution that satisfies them 14:02 vfernandes caroline_catlady: it's a client request... i think it should be configurable 14:01 caroline_catlady vfernandes: why do you want to create it manually instead of having it created automatically? the point of the serials module is to reduce the manual steps you have to do 13:55 vfernandes and not automatically by the system 13:55 vfernandes I want to generate the serial Nº 4 (following the previous example) manually... 13:53 cait so what is the use case, why do you not want it to do that? 13:53 cait yep, that is the expected bheaviour 13:52 vfernandes example: after receiving Nº3 issue the system auto-generates Nº4 (waiting status) 13:51 cait vfernandes: can you explain what you want to do? 13:49 vfernandes there is any way to block a new serial creation when receiving another? 13:35 oleonard Hi wizzyrea 13:17 AnnaBoten corilynn was last seen in #koha 2 days, 0 hours, 1 minute, and 54 seconds ago: <corilynn> but i probably can find a few other cataloging bugs to sign off 13:17 alex_a !seen corilynn 13:16 alex_a Someone here using advanced marc editor ? 12:57 caroline_catlady [off] right. I saw on the news there was some controversy, but tbh, I try not to watch any news concerning that man who I shall not name, it's giving him attention he doesn't deserve 12:55 oleonard [off] Independence Day, like Thanksgiving, is always problematic... Under the current administration even more so. Not feeling celebratory 12:52 oleonard We went to our city's fireworks show which was Wednesday evening, but nothing yesterday 12:52 caroline_catlady do anything special yesterday oleonard? 12:51 oleonard Hi caroline_catlady 12:48 caroline_catlady good morning! 12:39 oleonard That was what I needed jajm 12:27 oleonard ah, no. Thanks 12:27 jajm did you update dbix class schema too ? 12:25 oleonard This is after running updatedatabase. I hesitate to blame your patch because I don't know how to tell if it's a problem with my db (without starting from scratch) 12:25 oleonard "DBIx::Class::Storage::DBI::_dbh_execute(): Unknown column 'me.closed' in 'field list'" 12:23 oleonard I ran into an error... let my try to pull it up again 12:23 oleonard Hi jajm, I was just testing your rebased basketgroups patch 12:23 jajm oleonard, yes 12:12 oleonard jajm are you around? 11:58 eythian it's quite pleasant here at the moment, fairly consistantly in the low 20s 11:54 calire I know this feel 11:53 oleonard But seriously... It was so sunny and hot yesterday that I wanted to bury myself in a hole. Some rain would've been graet. 11:49 cait I love rain 11:49 oleonard Sure if you want to get rained on 11:49 cait animal sacrifices...do mosquitos count? 11:47 oleonard No rain on me, I am one of the gods' favorites on account of my many animal sacrifices and good-smelling oils 11:46 calire I heard there was some rain 11:45 oleonard We had a holiday yesterday, so I wasn't here. Don't know if y'all heard about it. We keep those things pretty quiet. 11:43 wahanui hi oleopard 11:43 calire hi oleonard 11:42 ashimema hello 11:42 oleonard Hi all 11:18 ashimema but I can't replicate any of the failure locally :( 11:17 ashimema jenkins seems upset today 11:13 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9 build #809: STILL UNSTABLE in 32 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9/809/ 10:23 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D8 build #319: STILL UNSTABLE in 37 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D8/319/ 09:06 vfernandes hi #koha 08:49 huginn` marcelr: The operation succeeded. 08:49 marcelr @later tell khall plz look at 23057 08:24 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D8 build #318: STILL UNSTABLE in 36 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D8/318/ 08:22 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9 build #808: STILL UNSTABLE in 33 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9/808/ 08:19 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_U18 build #301: STILL UNSTABLE in 29 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U18/301/ 08:19 marcelr ashimema++ # thx for so 08:19 marcelr hi cait 07:59 cait marcelr++ thx for QA 07:50 ashimema sure thing.. will take a look now :) 07:49 marcelr y 07:49 marcelr this little bug survived a few releases alread 07:49 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=23266 normal, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Needs Signoff , Add to cart fires twice on shelf page 07:49 marcelr bug 23266 07:49 marcelr btw care for signing off 23266 ? 07:49 ashimema that was challenged my understanding of that area of code I must admit 07:48 ashimema Thanks marcelr 07:48 marcelr looking at 23057 07:48 marcelr ashimema: cant catch up ;) 07:47 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 21181: Unit tests <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=ab417c290a06640153f725e361b56bf6c598c386> 07:47 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 21181: Make cancel_expired_reserves.pl Cancel all holds not waiting if ExpireRese... <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=4f7f55e5fcb8c9b0a608a79228e303de05ff0328> 07:47 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 23077: Unit tests <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=51bfa2ce28fc2eed7b5d0361fe4585afd96e3e20> 07:47 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 23077: Don't fill cardnumber with empty string <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=cc60770c4eed3ab8144acd2382e2894f7b63fb37> 07:47 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 23083: Fix course reserve item editing if one of the value is set to UNCHANGED <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e4ee3636304d06a0492fee6a1fcd9e4c65a17be6> 07:47 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 23083: Add tests <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=44469cf4c3e9fa690b2247324b1922fdde207f9f> 07:47 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 23199: Koha::Patron->store must check 'uppercasesurname' syspref <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=fa390ca232a0979c6786a0e00eca8d458f644f3e> 07:47 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 23248: Avoid opac-ISBDdetail.pl breaking on invalid biblionumber <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=c3f0732eb72dfb3c4c6000a8602424772bd46b61> 07:47 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 23199: Added tests for Koha::Patron <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e53bed5375638c8d7baaefb04cd77843dbe8e8a3> 07:47 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 23199: (follow-up) Fix tab/space issues <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=611b60ea9657efbe5f6c1da53d4b6a6d2d5f6a01> 07:47 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 23077: Fix import of cardnumber 0 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=9796f5adb39b3cb56bf82837cd57d14e513e8cae> 07:47 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 23248: (QA follow-up) Consolidate 404s <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=7e559e59635e387ce53a894a67e4323e4984a15f> 07:03 ashimema Fans will be on.. haha 07:02 fridolin 22°C here 07:02 liliputech_asu Weeeeeeeekend!!! oh, still a kid, doesn't have summer vacation, I'm getting screwed somehow --' 07:02 fridolin maybe a font setting 07:02 ashimema It's beautiful here this morning.. though it was already 18degrees at 6am this morning.. gonna be a scorcher 07:02 alex_a and summer vacations for me 07:02 fridolin ah it was a test on purpose liliputech_asu 07:01 fridolin and summer vacations for kids 07:01 liliputech_asu damn irssi doesn't diplays emoji, I'm missing something now ><' 07:01 fridolin and last day before weekend 07:01 ashimema Hehe 07:01 fridolin morning ;) 07:01 ashimema What we celebrating fridolin ? 07:01 alex_a bonjour 07:00 ashimema Haha 07:00 * ashimema is very British... Despite the alias 07:00 fridolin 🥳 07:00 ashimema Hehe 06:59 liliputech_asu it means good morning in japanese :) 06:59 fridolin caturday ? 06:59 ashimema No idea what that says,.. but it look cool 06:59 ashimema Morning #koha 06:58 ashimema Wow my mtompset was busy last night. 😀 06:58 liliputech_asu ãŠæ—©ã†å¾¡åº§ã„ã¾ã™ :) 06:58 marcelr hi fridolin 06:45 fridolin hi 06:33 reiveune hello 05:32 marcelr hi #koha 04:11 mtompset Have a good day (24 hour period), #koha 02:02 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20340 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, alex.arnaud, Needs Signoff , Ability to use authentication plugin 02:02 mtompset Wow... getting back to an old bug finally. bug 20340 01:10 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6815 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, In Discussion , Capture member photo via webcam 01:10 mtompset tcohen, bug 6815