Time  Nick           Message
22:23 mtompset       Still same problem for me though. :)
22:23 mtompset       Oops... 2 days early. *whew* :)
22:23 mtompset       I was away from keyboard, because that's when my son gets home from school.
22:22 mtompset       tcohen, you were on time for the meeting.
19:06 wahanui        i heard next meeting was https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Next_IRC_meetings
19:06 tcohen         next meeting?
18:59 oleonard       See you later #koha
18:54 huginn`        mtompset: khall was last seen in #koha 1 week, 5 days, 4 hours, 50 minutes, and 56 seconds ago: <khall> #info Kyle, ByWater Solutions
18:54 mtompset       @seen khall
18:38 koha-jenkins   Project Koha_Master_U18 build #285: STILL UNSTABLE in 36 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U18/285/
18:27 huginn`        Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=23197 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Add more batch operation options to SQL report results
18:27 oleonard       Bug 23197
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17:34 huginn`        News from kohagit: Bug 23109: (RM follow-up) Correction to typo in DBRev <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=c7047b45cb44adf12189e9180ef27fe8e63efa23>
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17:24 huginn`        News from kohagit: Bug 23152: (RM follow-up) Correct pluralisation of Koha::Libraries <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=8bf6f4dc5ad2aad0a5dd59c4fb7f70fd6b0f069e>
17:20 ashimema       Grr
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16:52 oleonard       I'm extending that but it still could be better
16:52 oleonard       Yeah limiting it to visible items doesn't make sense, but the functionality is being done all in-template
16:51 cait           ah boo :)
16:51 oleonard       Only visible items. The current implementation puts that information into a tooltip
16:51 oleonard       No
16:51 cait           but i was probably wrong
16:50 cait           i had the impression it wokred on the result set
16:50 cait           can we work around the 'visible' part?
16:50 koha-jenkins   Project Koha_Master_D8 build #298: UNSTABLE in 42 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D8/298/
16:50 cait           the german translation will be interesting anyway :)
16:49 cait           oleonard: maybe?
16:48 * oleonard     tries to get around that
16:44 oleonard       Oh shoot you can't jump straight to batch record modification because you have to choose a modification template first :(
16:41 koha-jenkins   Project Koha_Master_U18 build #282: UNSTABLE in 36 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U18/282/
16:39 reiveune       bye
16:38 koha-jenkins   Project Koha_Master_D9 build #785: UNSTABLE in 29 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9/785/
16:26 Vero           for login
16:26 Vero           which file is modified to remove the password field in koha for the user, thanks
16:26 oleonard       "Batch operations with 20 visible records" ?
16:25 cait           sorry, my mind i s a bit over the place today
16:25 Vero           hi
16:25 cait           batch modify for the utton label doesn't seem to fit for so many actions
16:24 cait           i am wondering if we should move it into the toolbar maybe then?
16:24 cait           good info :)
16:24 cait           I didn't know that
16:24 cait           ah it only works for visible?
16:23 oleonard       cait, what do you think?  https://zivotdesign.com/p/view.php?p=15613925166572
16:17 kidclamp       yeah, I tihnk having it at the top is nice
16:17 wahanui        i already had it that way, oleonard.
16:17 oleonard       kidclamp: Do you think the menu placement is better than having the buttons embedded in the table headers?
16:15 huginn`        News from kohagit: Bug 5287: (QA follow-up) update deprecated button <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=aa8abb916f8aa19c109abdd7841560abc01db239>
16:15 huginn`        News from kohagit: Bug 5287: Add floating toolbar to search results in OPAC <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=c5ca160e3b79b7ad1cbc4cfc1c2c7db30d2686ff>
16:15 huginn`        News from kohagit: Bug 23109: Improve description of staffaccess permission <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=dc0e8002fa6219cd49a5cc457191ef7855163c28>
16:15 huginn`        News from kohagit: Bug 23158: keep on-site checkout info when using itemBarcodeFallbackSearch <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=12ef157d757431520d63ab154b9572a855acf317>
16:15 huginn`        News from kohagit: Bug 23109: (follow-up) fix typo in upgrade script <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a19bd0e0267e9173a8c766c565ef67ecd1babcb7>
16:15 huginn`        News from kohagit: Bug 23158: Make the assignment statement more readable <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=9f4c2306ebc42e107603f6f8bf393a20d1013458>
16:15 kidclamp       or wahtever compound word they prefer for biblionumber
16:15 huginn`        News from kohagit: Bug 5287: Compiled CSS <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e17cff4d5aea108010850ff4a6bada80ba6ef055>
16:15 huginn`        News from kohagit: Bug 23109: DBRev 19.06.00.008 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b5ad077342faed74de34c3f185379ddf1b8ff4ad>
16:15 oleonard       Do you think the menu placement is better than having the buttons embedded in the table headers?
16:15 kidclamp       we should probably have a syspref somewhere listing the columns that we can show it on - so that german libraries don't have to use 'biblionumber' but can use 'einnumberenthatsonthebookinthedb'
16:14 kidclamp       I have been wanting that
16:14 kidclamp       I like it
16:13 oleonard       It would appear if there were either a biblionumber or itemnumber column in report results
16:13 kidclamp       does that only appear on a 'biblionumber' column?
16:09 oleonard       What do y'all think of this? https://zivotdesign.com/p/view.php?p=15613925166572
16:05 ashimema       Thanks Owen :)
16:04 huginn`        News from kohagit: Bug 23159: Reindent addbiblio.tt <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=c7147fcde03f7ba1ac13e485adcac587f2dde85c>
16:04 huginn`        News from kohagit: Bug 23146: Unit tests <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=f04747c89c8a318e3ee7c49cadc859f1fe7bb5b3>
16:04 huginn`        News from kohagit: Bug 23146: Add support for Basic auth on the OAuth2 token endpoint <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=23065fe0d8e09be78d1234a3a5bebf322da34925>
16:04 huginn`        News from kohagit: Bug 23152: Add tests <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b6dc26e93d9d0170c9980291a0f217adcc429e6a>
16:04 huginn`        News from kohagit: Bug 23152: Implement koha_object[s]_class when needed <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a60a6f40c3e25753c7474c4ff20f28e71353c351>
16:04 huginn`        News from kohagit: Bug 23154: Add pagination to /api/v1/checkouts <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=088522032f33b6a5931cbea1b928537e7fe33fd0>
16:04 huginn`        News from kohagit: Bug 23159: Add comments to addbiblio.tt <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=1020fe5b1f95a606d445acb4ac16c0c30586e71d>
16:04 huginn`        News from kohagit: Bug 23146: (QA follow-up) Make sure we use the absolute path <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=d52f58682cbae7f903a0459f3ec282a65a8ae1f6>
16:04 huginn`        News from kohagit: Bug 23152: (RM follow-up) Add handling for Koha::Plugin::Methods <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a87f5a01502b5df08f5e7b61650be6ea7dbafa30>
16:03 ashimema       good question
16:02 kidclamp       but which is the right answer?
15:59 ashimema       that feels wrong somehow
15:58 ashimema       lol
15:57 kidclamp       but on spent.pl we add all shipment costs and have none on ordered.pl
15:57 kidclamp       on acq-home  we split shipment between ordered and spent
15:55 ashimema       erm.. not sure I'll be much help but can try
15:55 kidclamp       quesiton about shippping costs
15:54 kidclamp       acquisitions in the house?
15:35 ashimema       all good
15:35 ashimema       TestBuilder.t is what will highlight the issue to me... so I'll just apply, run the tests.. fix the failure as an RM followup and push the set
15:35 ashimema       no worries
15:35 ashimema       haha
15:35 koha-jenkins   Project Koha_Master_D8 build #297: SUCCESS in 42 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D8/297/
15:27 Joubu          ho yes I remembered now, I wrote the stuff in TestBuilder.t, so checked it out when it was done, it's lost :)
15:26 koha-jenkins   Project Koha_Master_U18 build #281: SUCCESS in 36 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U18/281/
15:25 Joubu          nope, I think I removed it
15:22 Joubu          ok, trying to remember where I wrote that
15:21 ashimema       just thought I'd give you the option ;)
15:21 ashimema       I'm happy to sort it here as an RM followup
15:21 ashimema       it'll apply fine.. but there's a couple of new classes that are missed
15:20 Joubu          the patch applies ok here
15:19 ashimema       or rather.. have you run that and throw an updated patch up for me
15:19 ashimema       I can either run that.. or apply the patch, run the builder test script and fix the couple of cases it'll throw as an RM followup
15:19 ashimema       it's next on my 'to push' hitlist
15:18 huginn`        Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=23152 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Passed QA , koha_object[s]_class methods must be implemented when needed
15:18 ashimema       did you say you had a script to regenerate for bug 23152?
15:18 koha-jenkins   Project Koha_Master_D9 build #784: SUCCESS in 29 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9/784/
15:18 Joubu          yep
15:17 ashimema       Joubu around yet?
15:16 paxed          mtompset: ah. i'll look at it tomorrow or wednesday
15:14 huginn`        Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12297 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, pasi.kallinen, Needs Signoff , Waitingreserves code duplication
15:14 mtompset       bug 12297... how to test?
15:13 mtompset       Sorry... got distracted...
15:11 paxed          mtompset: what's up?
15:04 paxed          yes?
15:04 mtompset       Are you around, paxed?
15:04 huginn`        mtompset: paxed was last seen in #koha 4 days, 3 hours, 41 minutes, and 21 seconds ago: <paxed> ashimema: meaning someone will have to make a decision on when to update and/or pick the packages?
15:04 mtompset       @seen paxed
14:54 ashimema       hehe
14:54 mtompset       I think the set_password script needs a little more validation. ;)
14:54 mtompset       BTW, I just set the password on a patron that doesn't have a user id.
14:53 mtompset       Okay, if there is that move to clean up the common stuff into that, then it makes sense. Otherwise, set_password is only ever run from a command-line, as far as I know.
14:52 mtompset       Nice idea.
14:52 ashimema       what would be nice is to start using it for more.. like there's a bunch of patterns in our scripts like using GetOpt::Long and pod2help or whatever.. we could move some of those imports into the base class
14:51 ashimema       the short of it mtompset was that we introduced Koha::Script as a sort of base class for all scripts.. all it currently does is set the environment so actionlogs and things work cleanly
14:50 mtompset       oleonard++
14:49 ashimema       wednesday evening (bst evening)
14:49 wahanui        i heard next meeting was https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Next_IRC_meetings
14:49 oleonard       next meeting?
14:49 huginn`        News from kohagit: Bug 15704: Split up Zebra indexing of RDA 264 information <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=3599e57bf67a1357c13903fbf07f07cb2c94e756>
14:49 huginn`        News from kohagit: Bug 20292: Filter/censor info sent via SIP <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=14af35852edf33f05883184cc451662438114c12>
14:49 huginn`        News from kohagit: Bug 22509: Add new script to add MARC fields with date formatted stringsto bib records <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e54e887b58d7daa0309d16923cce4419aee6314b>
14:49 huginn`        News from kohagit: Bug 22509: Add the --unless-exists option to the script <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e8a4f97e95c8206c2cc60ba81d953ae1c4c12963>
14:49 mtompset       when is the dev meeting?
14:49 huginn`        News from kohagit: Bug 22862: Normalize SMS messaging numbers before validating them <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=115f4f2045a6c695d1eed47cd401b7759630ac4d>
14:49 huginn`        News from kohagit: Bug 22888: Use DataTables for Koha news table filtering <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a1083587b235ac0d85e85a625944179e2c087785>
14:49 huginn`        News from kohagit: Bug 21588: Add expand/collapse all links to the "Acquisition details" subscriptions <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a6d732f563bfcd19691decbb9968dc1f4b25c07c>
14:49 huginn`        News from kohagit: Bug 22862: (QA follow-up) Make regexes match <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=982fd9fecbe6777805d2d0d3f977f10c522b86c5>
14:49 huginn`        News from kohagit: Bug 22509: Fix POD error <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=7f3c98478ab63e834d7787c1ce6ab06e46d44395>
14:49 huginn`        News from kohagit: Bug 22509: Add more POD and fix --where <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=da12cf7551dd1bd533b7cbcf5a679ea58f6a0f4e>
14:49 huginn`        News from kohagit: Bug 22509: Clarify with an example the usage of --unless-exists <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=0b783783706f88d04225c0a42759798ae14c9755>
14:49 huginn`        News from kohagit: Bug 22935: Improve style of Bootstrap pagination <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=33b70b798d4cc2bc6d6db43a40d006dd8c1109b8>
14:49 ashimema       oleonard all pushed and up to date
14:49 huginn`        News from kohagit: Bug 22888: Compiled CSS <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=cc9d167af6081009bd3c41c7dd91f90c76c6ca1b>
14:49 huginn`        News from kohagit: Bug 22509: (RM follow-up) Add use of Koha::Script base class <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=0141b797d7f495bbcea350c14e3b6aae635ce7cf>
14:49 huginn`        News from kohagit: Bug 22935: Compiled CSS <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=535925e23f58d654ddd3a1da62d6bf2572aca0a2>
14:49 ashimema       mtompset there's a Koha::Script discussion scheduled for the dev meeting
14:49 * mtompset     smirks.
14:48 ashimema       just in case anything else touches it.. I don't think it should
14:47 ashimema       hold off for 30s whilst I push master ;)
14:47 mtompset       tcohen, sorry... just curious about the need for Koha::Script in set_password.pl
14:47 oleonard       Of course
14:47 ashimema       any chance of a rebase pretty please
14:47 huginn`        Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5287 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Patch doesn't apply , Add floating toolbar to search results in OPAC
14:47 ashimema       sorry I just kicked out bug 5287 ... afraid is no longer applies (I think I recently pushed another of your bugs that tidies the indenting)
14:46 * oleonard     stares blankly into the four remaining hours of his work day
14:45 ashimema       oleonard about still?
14:42 cait           talk to you all tomorrow :)
14:42 cait           asking... and already have to leave
14:42 cait           mtompset: ?
14:39 tcohen         shoot
14:38 tcohen         I am, mtompset
14:36 mtompset       Quick question for the channel. Would you ever set a password in a cron job?
14:35 koha-jenkins   Project Koha_Master_D8 build #296: SUCCESS in 41 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D8/296/
14:34 mtompset       You still here, tcohen?
14:34 huginn`        mtompset: tcohen was last seen in #koha 1 hour, 4 minutes, and 27 seconds ago: <tcohen> morning all
14:34 mtompset       @seen tcohen
14:32 koha-jenkins   Project Koha_Master_U18 build #280: SUCCESS in 37 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U18/280/
14:30 oleonard       Hi kidclamp
14:29 KotH           ashimema: looks like just setting serial enumeration field in the item form does what i want it to do
14:29 * kidclamp     waves
14:23 koha-jenkins   Project Koha_Master_D9 build #783: SUCCESS in 29 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9/783/
13:52 huginn`        News from kohagit: Bug 22944: change unit tests <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=48e5713e6ff78d7aad7eff9e239ec8779d62655c>
13:52 huginn`        News from kohagit: Bug 22944: avoid AnonymousPatron in search_patrons_to_anonymise <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=66975364b672ea5f362d49f6e5fca8c9a0e8326c>
13:52 huginn`        News from kohagit: Bug 23034: Remove uninitialized value warning in Mana KB settings <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=0df3fc3dae575ceb16b85de6c201f5e82d01059c>
13:52 huginn`        News from kohagit: Bug 22944: remove obsolete unit test <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=ed7b3760965ec5a52783efe64bcba13b45b3725a>
13:52 huginn`        News from kohagit: Bug 23106: Tweak display of totals on payment page <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=7c5e7ca9c47ac6c8a8b7d89da46e7354d8fea69d>
13:52 huginn`        News from kohagit: Bug 23115: Tweak display of totals on 'Fines and charges' page <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=49275f27d43990746b4af5c6335d4fe7f38de7b4>
13:52 huginn`        News from kohagit: Bug 23098: Reword success message of KOC upload process <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=286f151009f778d6d4d0890b1a8bead1a6e62bde>
13:52 huginn`        News from kohagit: Bug 23115: (follow-up) Move switches to a TT block <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=efc21e6f47801503e55e3ba709a48c3f426f90ac>
13:52 huginn`        News from kohagit: Bug 23115: (QA follow-up) Address QA tools complaints <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=c3ced5d89320f85774d945957b2b4e68d0336016>
13:51 huginn`        News from kohagit: Bug 23115: Compiled CSS <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=f1bb6178e5bfe990da747c9d5b0e7a4f04148a55>
13:51 huginn`        News from kohagit: Bug 23034: (RM follow-up) Consistent coding style <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=4dc64b4b124abf4bd2437004879e083972e20492>
13:45 ashimema       if there are differences git will spot changes in.. what he said
13:44 oleonard       staff-global.css in the staff client, opac.css in the OPAC
13:44 mtompset       oleonard, where are the 'yarn build' results built?
13:39 KotH           lol
13:39 oleonard       Some have come up with a new "modern" standard, RDA, which is like MARC but worse XD
13:38 KotH           and when will koha support it? :-D
13:38 KotH           where can i read more on this?
13:38 KotH           oh?
13:38 oleonard       Folks are trying
13:38 KotH           oleonard: how about inventing something new?
13:37 oleonard       KotH: FYI nobody likes MARC, including librarians
13:36 KotH           .o0(MARC is confusing)
13:36 KotH           mtompset: greetings fellow droid
13:35 wahanui        mtompset: huh?
13:35 mtompset       My forgetful memory in polite greeting proves my humanity. Sorry, wahanui
13:34 mtompset       Greetings, oleonard wizzycray khall KotH
13:34 mtompset       Greetings, tcohen
13:33 mtompset       Just wanted to sign off an important bug.
13:33 mtompset       I've never used yarn before.
13:32 * ashimema     got caught by it the other day
13:32 ashimema       :)
13:32 mtompset       Hadn't run yarn install
13:32 mtompset       ashimema, correct.
13:32 mtompset       oleonard++ # Thanks for the link.
13:30 ashimema       not that that's a problem.. one just need to know ;)
13:30 ashimema       it's certainly the case for koha-testing-docker
13:30 ashimema       I might be wrong though
13:30 ashimema       if I remember correctly, although you have yarn installed on kohadevbox, it hasn't run 'yarn install' for you yet.. so you need to run that before you can run the 'yarm build' commands
13:29 tcohen         morning all
13:28 oleonard       https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Working_with_SCSS_in_the_OPAC_and_staff_client
13:27 mtompset       I'm having difficulty... let me recheck my config and start from scratch
13:27 oleonard       It should
13:27 mtompset       oleonard, does yarn build work on a kohadevbox?
13:24 oleonard       In a lot of cases call number isn't unique
13:24 KotH           that also explains how koha can automagically asign a number :)
13:24 KotH           ah.. ok. that makes sense
13:23 oleonard       It's like the item's physical address on the shelf.
13:23 KotH           how is that different from the barcode?
13:23 oleonard       The call number is typically a physical label which helps identify books and where they belong.
13:23 KotH           btw: while we are at learning stuff: what is the purpose of the call number?
13:21 KotH           oleonard: i mostly use koha to keep track on where i have which book
13:21 KotH           oleonard: which they might, in my case
13:21 KotH           yes. definitely! but i whish there were more documents for the layman, who does not have a librarian degree
13:20 oleonard       KotH: I would think the only reason to catalog volumes separately in your case is if the volumes might end up separated
13:20 ashimema       hehe
13:20 ashimema       good learning process though right ;)
13:20 ashimema       hehe
13:19 KotH           ashimema: it just looks like a lot of overkill... but then, using koha for my personal books can be seen as overkill :)
13:19 KotH           ashimema: thanks
13:19 KotH           ashimema: lol
13:18 ashimema       good luck.. it's a place I've gon before and now forgotten all about again.
13:18 ashimema       adding items to those bib records is then down to how you want to lend..:)
13:18 mtompset       Don't know how to test it, so I'll leave it for someone else. :)
13:17 mtompset       ashimema, I updated the patch and set it to needs sign off.
13:17 ashimema       those pages are mostly about the biblio level.. i.e. marc21 catalogueing standards and how well (or not well as may be the case) koha supports them
13:16 ashimema       so there's two questions you want to ask yourself.. how you want to lend such things and how you want them to display in the catalogue in search and things
13:14 KotH           so i can set my own policies :)
13:14 KotH           well.. in this case, organisation == me
13:13 KotH           cool... thanks. somehow missed that in my search
13:13 ashimema       well.. it's often down to an individual organisations catalogueing policy really
13:13 ashimema       https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Multipart_Bibliographics has a bunch of info.. I think it's mostly up to date
13:13 KotH           on what does it depend?
13:13 KotH           hmm..
13:12 ashimema       the answer really is... it depends..
13:12 ashimema       that's a "fun" question KotH
13:12 KotH           or more precisely: should I give each volume a seperate item with seperate barcode, or shall i treat them as one item?
13:12 ashimema       I think SIP needs a general tidy up before we can shoe horn in Koha::Logger there personally
13:11 ashimema       the use of Koha::Logger in SIP actualyl broke allot of things when I got colin_c to check it.
13:11 ashimema       I'm not sure I'm close enough to it to grab it myself
13:10 ashimema       feel free to grab the relevant bit and submit it as a patch..
13:10 mtompset       good day (24 hour period)
13:10 KotH           may I ask, what the right way to add a multi-volume book is?
13:09 KotH           a wonderful good afternoon
13:09 mtompset       I don't think that tiny piece would break anything.
13:09 mtompset       And a tiny piece of that was in that patch.
13:08 huginn`        Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=16509 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, olli-antti.kivilahti, Patch doesn't apply , Koha::Logger dies when log4perl.conf has FileAppender files with different owners, also compatibility with logrotate
13:08 mtompset       Because I was noticing a "Patch Doesn't Apply" on bug 16509
13:06 ashimema       looks like it broke loads of tests
13:05 huginn`        Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15253 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Failed QA , Add Koha::Logger based logging for SIP2
13:05 oleonard       Did you read the bug report mtompset? Bug 15253
13:04 mtompset       Does anyone know why commit 03c03ed8cdb94cda4cfd661e3b04f97cb36d8dc4 was reverted?
13:03 mtompset       Greetings, ashimema liliputech_asu
13:03 huginn`        mtompset: kidclamp was last seen in #koha 3 days, 18 hours, 6 minutes, and 32 seconds ago: <kidclamp> byee
13:03 mtompset       @seen kidclamp
12:42 liliputech_asu subscribed :)
12:42 liliputech_asu ashimema: oki, can't do this just now but I'll subscribe to the bug and test it :)
12:42 ashimema       then alex_a_ can jump on QA :)
12:42 ashimema       feel free to test and SO it..
12:41 ashimema       but it may be good to have some wider testing beyond the default config.. like with multiple plugin_dirs defined
12:40 ashimema       locally testing it, it works well
12:40 liliputech_asu ashimema: \o/
12:39 ashimema       that's what this script effectively does ;)
12:38 mtompset       Greetings, #koha.
12:37 liliputech_asu in my opinion it is crucial to keep the ability to just cp or git clone a plugin repo and be able to install it from there, also keeping the versionnning!
12:37 ashimema       :)
12:36 liliputech_asu ashimema: hi, I'm very intersted by the discussion :)
12:35 ashimema       I reckon we can get that in and then add further functionlity easily enough.. like it would be nice to be able to just feed it the kpz file and have it do the rest for us
12:35 ashimema       feel free to golf it
12:35 huginn`        Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=23191 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , Administrators should be able to install plugins from the command line
12:35 ashimema       bug 23191 alex_a_
11:38 wahanui        hi, fridolin
11:38 fridolin       hi
11:31 oleonard       Hi all
11:28 ashimema       will shout when ready.. seems InstallPlugins doesn't return as I expected so I'm doing some quick investigation
11:06 alex_a_        Will SO or QA
11:06 alex_a_        ashimema++
11:05 * ashimema     quickly writes a bug
11:05 ashimema       just in case we ever want to record the env of how the plugin was installed (and to keep us consistent)
11:04 ashimema       though I was going to add the use of the Koha::Script basecalss
11:04 alex_a_        lol
11:04 alex_a_        Just missing the licence
11:04 ashimema       that's pretty much it..
11:04 alex_a_        :)
11:04 alex_a_        Koha::Plugins->new()->InstallPlugins();
11:04 alex_a_        use Koha::Plugins;
11:04 alex_a_        use Modern::Perl;
11:04 alex_a_        #!/usr/bin/perl
11:03 ashimema       do you already have anything written or would you like me to quickly code something up for you to SO?
11:02 ashimema       go for it :)
11:01 alex_a_        ashimema, let's cut the pear in half and get the command line script in master. What about that ?
10:55 ashimema       that's another one that would get my support for a quick SO/QA/Push process
10:55 ashimema       I still like the idea of plugin white/blacklists in the config so suppliers can vet what plugins customers may use
10:53 ashimema       which is in effect what I think you're asking for
10:53 ashimema       if you're going to have lots of plugins installed in the background I would install them properly in the commandline and just set the disabled flag if you want staff users to be able to enabled/disable them
10:52 ashimema       for the end users 'installing' a plugin is already handled by the install process
10:51 ashimema       not sure about having such a button in the UI..
10:51 ashimema       hmm
10:51 alex_a_        Yep
10:51 ashimema       all it needs to do is call `Koha::Plugins::InstallPlugins()`
10:50 ashimema       I'd support that for a quick OS/QA and push
10:50 alex_a_        List all uninstalled plugin => Install
10:50 alex_a_        But it could be best to have this feature in Koha staff
10:50 alex_a_        ashimema, script created yet :)
10:49 alex_a_        And, at Biblibre, we don't do that
10:49 ashimema       it wouldn't be hard to have a commandline script call the ->getPlugins routine though.
10:49 alex_a_        That means to grant Koha to write in plugins dir
10:49 ashimema       it was already the case the 'install', 'update' and 'uninstall' routines wouldn't run if you just added it to the directory..
10:48 ashimema       the expectation was that you installed the expected way.. via gui
10:48 alex_a_        That time is over ...
10:48 ashimema       yeah.. well..
10:47 alex_a_        Just put the plugin in the plugins dir and refresh plugins-home.pl
10:47 alex_a_        cait, yes
10:44 cait           how did you install before? commandline?
10:42 alex_a_        tcohen around ?
10:36 alex_a_        Is it the expected behavior ?
10:36 alex_a_        So, reading the code, it seems that we can install plugin only via upload now ...
10:29 alex_a_        ashimema, the same what ?
10:28 ashimema       should install the same alex_a_
10:28 huginn`        Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=21073 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , Improve plugin performance
10:28 alex_a_        Is there a new method to install plugins since bug 21073 ?
08:46 koha-jenkins   Project Koha_Master_D8 build #295: FIXED in 42 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D8/295/
08:46 wahanui        Congratulations!
08:46 koha-jenkins   Yippee, build fixed!
08:26 liliputech_asu morning koha :)
08:19 huginn`        Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8523 normal, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, CLOSED FIXED, Authority hierarchies only support UNIMARC
08:19 cait           bug 8523
08:18 cait           but i can't get it to show more than 1 level... so it's useless
08:18 cait           was expecting this: https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/attachment.cgi?id=12097
08:17 cait           we are trying to activate, but it won't show as it should
08:17 cait           hm, is someone using the tree thing for authorities?
08:04 cait           morning ashimema
08:03 ashimema       mornin' #koha
07:02 alex_a         Bonjour
06:35 wahanui        niihau, reiveune
06:35 reiveune       hello