Time  Nick           Message
04:39 mtompset       Greetings, #koha.
04:40 mtompset       #WeTheNorth :) YAY! Raptors won NBA championships.
04:40 mtompset       @seen Joubu
04:40 huginn`        mtompset: Joubu was last seen in #koha 1 day, 13 hours, 55 minutes, and 40 seconds ago: <Joubu> yes
04:44 mtompset       @seen ashimema
04:44 huginn`        mtompset: ashimema was last seen in #koha 7 hours, 32 minutes, and 5 seconds ago: <ashimema> Looks interesting, bedtime reading.. 😀
04:45 mtompset       @seen alex_a
04:45 huginn`        mtompset: alex_a was last seen in #koha 21 hours, 43 minutes, and 8 seconds ago: <alex_a> bonjour
04:47 mtompset       Greetings, eythian
04:52 mtompset       Have a great day (24 hour period), #koha.
05:01 fridolin       hi
05:01 wahanui        bonjour, fridolin
05:01 fridolin       ah merci wahanui
05:38 ashimema       Will be around soon mtompset , just taking pooch for a walk first
06:37 reiveune       hello
06:53 liliputech_asu bonjour koha
06:58 alex_a         bonjour
06:58 wahanui        hello, alex_a
07:27 magnuse        hooray for bug 23112!
07:28 huginn`        Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=23112 new feature, P5 - low, ---, andrew.isherwood, NEW , Circulation of ILL items
07:53 ashimema       thought you might like that one magnuse
08:28 magnuse        ashimema: hehe, perfect! do you have a timeframe for the development?
08:39 ashimema       19th July is our official start date for it that we've told the customer whose funding it.
08:40 ashimema       but we may start it earlier if the RFC looks solid
08:40 ashimema       I wanted to try and ensure we nailed the RFC down before starting dev on this one :)
11:41 ashimema       @seen alex_a
11:41 huginn`        ashimema: alex_a was last seen in #koha 4 hours, 42 minutes, and 26 seconds ago: <alex_a> bonjour
12:08 oleonard       Hi all
12:26 calire         hi oleonard
12:26 wahanui        hi oleopard
12:26 eythian        hi oleopard, cailre.
12:28 calire         hi eythian
12:28 * oleonard     wonders what he should do today...
12:29 cait           fix all the bugs? :)
12:29 oleonard       It's all a question of which one to do first
12:29 * ashimema     wouldn't mind oleonard's UX eyes on his two accounts tables bugs
12:30 ashimema       bug 23106 and bug 23115
12:30 huginn`        Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=23106 trivial, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Needs Signoff , Totals are unclear when a credit is involved on the 'Pay fines' screen
12:30 huginn`        Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=23115 trivial, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Needs Signoff , Totals are unclear when a credit is involved on the OPAC 'Fines and charges' screen
12:31 oleonard       I will take a look ashimema
12:32 ashimema       hugs
12:32 ashimema       hopefully they're quick one's to look at.. they're small really
13:05 cait           bug 23122 might be a fun one
13:05 huginn`        Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=23122 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , When searching callnumber in simple search, search option is not retained
13:05 cait           i suspect a template issue
13:06 ashimema       any chance you could also take a look at bug 23025 oleonard.. I'm not sure I'd know what to look at to spot breakage
13:06 huginn`        Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=23025 is not accessible.
13:11 cait           found another: bug 23123
13:11 huginn`        Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=23123 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Status AVAILABLE and ORDERED for suggestions is not translated in the templates
13:22 oleonard       cait ashimema I added an updated patch to Bug 23025 with a test plan
13:22 huginn`        Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=23025 is not accessible.
13:24 ashimema       thanks oleonard :)
13:26 cait           oleonard++ :)
13:29 magnuse        oleonard++
13:29 oleonard       The process of keeping those dependencies up to date is new to me. As far as I know we'll only need to do it when there is a security issue or when we find that a new feature requires an updated version.
13:45 oleonard       Hi wizzyrea
13:54 oleonard       ashimema: I'm confused by what I'm seeing with Bug 23115
13:54 huginn`        Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=23115 trivial, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Needs Signoff , Totals are unclear when a credit is involved on the OPAC 'Fines and charges' screen
13:56 wizzyrea       good morning
13:57 oleonard       Why is there one payment line in that bottom section? https://zivotdesign.com/p/view.php?p=15605205335410
13:57 ashimema       that does indeed look odd
13:57 ashimema       it's because the 'outstanding' is not 0
13:57 ashimema       I would have expected a Payment to have been applied to something
13:58 ashimema       and thus zeroed
13:58 ashimema       how did you create that payment line?
13:59 oleonard       It was data already in the system, so there's a chance it's messed up. I'll try some fresh transactions.
14:03 * ashimema     tries to replicate that and can't
14:03 ashimema       man I find the whole change thing a bit wierd
14:05 * cait         grumps
14:05 cait           I filed a bug but not much participation there so far
14:06 oleonard       cait: ?
14:08 ashimema       I'm looking at it again now cait
14:08 ashimema       trying to decide if/how I'd make it cleaner
14:09 ashimema       it feels a little wierd that it's not impossible to make an overpayment
14:09 oleonard       ashimema: This looks more like what you were expecting? https://zivotdesign.com/p/view.php?p=15605213090826
14:11 ashimema       yeah, looks better
14:12 ashimema       basically.. any outstanding Credits shown beneith the 'Total due'..
14:12 ashimema       I just wanted to try and make it clearer that the credits are not yet applied
14:12 ashimema       I suppose 'Total due' could be 'Subtotal'
14:13 ashimema       it's odd as when online payments are enabled there's no way for the end user to apply existing credits.. so they'll end up paying off the top figure (if they select to pay all)
14:14 cait           ashimema: my issue is mostly partial payments
14:14 cait           if you pay amount,not a single line (iirc)
14:15 cait           but also the labelling is inconsistent between paying a single line and an amount
14:15 oleonard       I think we need to emphasize that the information in that line is different from the amounts due. Perhaps: https://zivotdesign.com/p/view.php?p=15605217138723
14:19 oleonard       cait: I can't reproduce Bug 23122
14:19 huginn`        Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=23122 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , When searching callnumber in simple search, search option is not retained
14:20 ashimema       hmm
14:20 ashimema       then you loose the 'amount' vs 'amount oustanting'
14:21 * ashimema     ponders if there's any other way to highlight it more
14:22 ashimema       perhaps the label at the top should be corrected from 'Fine amount' to 'Amount' too whilst we're here.. even above the line we're still showing payments (one's that have zero outstanding) so really the 'Fine amount' column is mislabled as it is.
14:23 cait           oleonard: hm, tested in 18.11
14:24 cait           sorry, i should have noted that
14:24 oleonard       I tested in master and 18.05
14:24 cait           i've sent you a link, can you check if you see it there? just to make sure?
14:24 cait           that we are testing the same thing
14:26 oleonard       I see that when I do the search the callnum parameter looks like this: idx=callnum
14:26 oleonard       On your system it's idx=callnum%2Cphr
14:27 cait           ah yes
14:27 cait           that's a syspref
14:27 cait           look sofr 'phrase'
14:27 cait           but it did break for both settings for me
14:28 oleonard       I can reproduce the bug if I turn on phrase searching
14:35 ashimema       did the 'credit' class used to do anything styling wise on those credit lines oleonard?
14:35 ashimema       not on the lines I've moved to the bottom but in generall
14:35 oleonard       I think it probably did ashimema, I'm not sure when we lost track of it
14:35 ashimema       the credits above the total are also classed up as credits
14:37 ashimema       hmm.. I'm also wondering if the credits below the total should get the same even/odd row treatment.. didn't realise I'd missed that
14:51 oleonard       I think I've got it cait
14:56 ashimema       https://imgur.com/eWDMHVx
14:56 ashimema       any better?
14:56 liliputech_asu it's friday, have a nice weekend Koha folks :)
14:57 cait           oleonard: oh cool
14:57 ashimema       italisized all 'outstanding' lines
14:57 cait           sorry, got distracted here (work stuff)
14:57 cait           well, coworker dropped a big tower with files off the desk and that caused some distraction heh
14:57 oleonard       ashimema: I would be (am) confused about what an "outstanding" credit is.
14:58 ashimema       hmm
14:58 ashimema       ok
15:00 ashimema       my plan is to add an 'apply' button in the next bug.. so patrons can apply their credit against debits if they want to
15:00 ashimema       it's only a problem if you have the prefs set to not automatically always apply credit against debt
15:00 ashimema       the AutoReconcileBalance thing
15:04 reiveune       bye
15:05 cait           ashimema: i think this needs to be a pref (the apply for patrons) as noted on the bug
15:06 ashimema       of course
15:07 ashimema       :confused:
15:08 ashimema       looking at opac.scss it looks to me like td.sum should be bold.. but it's clearly not in our screenshots
15:11 oleonard       It's a bug ashimema. It should say " &.sum { "
15:12 ashimema       oh.. coolios
15:12 * ashimema     should properly read scss and remind himself how it works
15:16 ashimema       hmm..
15:17 ashimema       so do you think it's clearer without my changes at all then?
15:18 ashimema       we've got a few customers who are getting complaints that the totals are all messed up without my changes
15:21 oleonard       ashimema: Sorry, I deal with fines and charges so seldom I don't think I'm the best person to ask
15:22 oleonard       #endlibraryfines
15:22 ashimema       no worries.. you've already helped clarify a few things for me :)
18:37 pedro_         Hello, I have a problem with SRU server, when I try to search (myserver:9999/?version=1.1&operation=scan&scanClause=dc.identifier=fish) i always have the same error  (YAZ 4.2.30
18:37 pedro_         Error: 404
18:37 pedro_
18:37 pedro_         Description: Not Found). How Can I configure the server in a correct way?
18:40 pedro_         with yaz-client command (Z> find), It shows: [109] Database unavailable -- v2 addinfo 'biblios'.
18:59 kidclamp       have a nice weekend all!
20:03 magnuse        @later tell pedro_ does it help if you use myserver:9999/biblio?version=1.1&operation=scan&scanClause=dc.identifier=fish (notice the "biblio")
20:03 huginn`        magnuse: The operation succeeded.
20:11 bag            magnuse: HI!!!
20:19 magnuse        bag: HI
20:20 magnuse        knuckles!
20:23 bag            knuckles >>>>
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21:13 ashimema       kidclamp ++ #giving bug 23104 a good thorough testing
21:13 huginn`        Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=23104 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Regression (18925) in circ rules - unlimited vs 0
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