Time Nick Message 07:37 * magnuse waves 07:39 josef_moravec morning #koha 07:44 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 23037: Add Henry Bolshaw to contributors <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=72d4b10bf4abcfc36a9f3bac263ad182b6512088> 08:11 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D8 build #263: SUCCESS in 23 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D8/263/ 08:40 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9 build #752: UNSTABLE in 28 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9/752/ 08:40 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_U18 build #247: STILL UNSTABLE in 55 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U18/247/ 09:05 ashimema Grr, random failures 09:05 magnuse those are the best kind... 09:11 vfernandes hi #koha 09:11 magnuse hi vfernandes 09:12 magnuse hi indradg 09:12 * magnuse needs lunch 09:33 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9 build #753: STILL UNSTABLE in 28 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9/753/ 09:34 * ashimema is confused.. same failures... but all I pushed was a tiny string patch 10:01 fraktik @karma 10:01 huginn` fraktik: Highest karma: "Joubu" (754), "cait" (720), and "oleonard" (431). Lowest karma: "-" (-59), "failed" (-41), and "ie" (-38). 11:19 alex_a Bonjour 11:20 magnuse hiya alex_a 11:21 alex_a Salut magnuse 11:49 magnuse Guten Tag calire 11:56 calire hi magnuse :) 12:45 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 22982: (QA follow-up) Add behavior to Koha::Account::Line::apply and unit test <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=f417c15e499745a7cd35fd1c8c5ae79888857199> 12:45 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 22982: Add unit tests <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=986629b29f8651a99f877444c69dec2838f513d8> 12:45 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 22982: Paying lost fee does not always remove lost item from checkouts <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=20dde4cc4acf35ba9f5edc76c5271198217994e6> 12:59 ashimema ooh.. general meeting 12:59 * ashimema had totaly forgoten that 13:05 ashimema anyone around? 13:06 Charles_Quain charles here 13:06 georgew I'm here because I thought there was a meeting this morning 13:06 ashimema it's deadly quiet today 13:07 davidnind yep 13:07 thd yes 13:07 ashimema there indeed is.. so long as we've got enough people to actually say anything ;) 13:07 ashimema coolios.. could be a nice quick one then 13:08 georgew I think it may be so quick that it might be over already 13:08 ashimema #startmeeting General IRC meeting 5 June 2019 13:08 huginn` Meeting started Wed Jun 5 13:08:37 2019 UTC. The chair is ashimema. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 13:08 huginn` Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 13:08 huginn` The meeting name has been set to 'general_irc_meeting_5_june_2019' 13:09 ashimema #topic Introductions 13:09 ashimema #info Martin Renvoize - PTFS Europe 13:09 caroline_catlady #info Caroline Cyr La Rose, inLibro 13:09 georgew #info George Williams, Northeast Kansas Library System 13:09 Charles_Quain # Charles Quain, Interleaf Technology 13:09 lisette #info Lisette Scheer, Latah County Library District 13:09 donnab #info Donna Bachowski - ByWater Solutions 13:09 Charles_Quain #info Charles Quain, Interleaf Technology 13:10 davidnind #info David Nind, Wellington, New Zealand 13:10 thd #info Thomas Duk;eth, Agogme, New York City 13:10 khall #info Kyle Hall, ByWater Solutions 13:10 ashimema now they poor in :) 13:10 kidclamp #info Nick Clemens,ByWater Solutions 13:10 tcohen hi 13:10 wahanui niihau, tcohen 13:10 magnuse #info Magnus Enger, Libriotech, Norway 13:10 tcohen #info Tomas Cohen Arazi, Theke Solutions 13:11 tcohen agenda? 13:11 greenjimll #info Jon Knight, Loughborough University 13:11 caroline_catlady tbh, I had forgotten it was earlier than usual, literally just got in 13:12 magnuse Charles_Quain: you forgot the "info" after the # :-) 13:12 greenjimll The agenda is in: https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/General_IRC_meeting_5_June_2019 13:12 Charles_Quain Sorry. Still not used to IRC. Re-did it! 13:12 magnuse ah, missed that 13:13 josef_moravec_ #info Josef Moravec, Czech Republic 13:14 ashimema #link https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/General_IRC_meeting_5_June_2019 Agenda 13:14 ashimema #topic Announcements 13:14 ashimema Well, we succesfully released 19.05.00, 18.11.06, 18.05.13 :) 13:14 ashimema #info 19.05.00, 18.11.06 and 18.05.13 were all released since we last met 13:14 ashimema and, we had a successful Kohacon19 :) 13:14 ashimema Great to see everyone there :) 13:14 ashimema anyone got anything else to announce? 13:14 ashimema ooh.. my irc seems to have a lag again today 13:15 greenjimll Great to have the YouTube coverage of Kohacon19 13:15 Charles_Quain Great work on 19.05. Some really great stuff in it. 13:15 Charles_Quain On KohaCon.... 13:15 Charles_Quain I am putting the finishing touches to a report on the event. 13:15 ashimema kidclamp++ 13:15 fraktik #Tomáš Wünsch, Municipal Library Usti nad Orlici, Czech Republic 13:15 Charles_Quain Will post it tomorrow or early next week. 13:15 magnuse kidclamp++ 13:16 Charles_Quain 207 Signed Up 13:16 Charles_Quain 15 Cancelled before the event 13:16 Charles_Quain 112 Attended on Monday 13:16 Charles_Quain 116 Attended on Tuesday 13:16 Charles_Quain 99 Attended on Wednesday 13:16 Charles_Quain 77 Attended on Thursday 13:16 fraktik #info Tomáš Wünsch, Municipal Library Usti nad Orlici, Czech Republic 13:16 Charles_Quain We did not count Culture Day attendees 13:16 Charles_Quain 4 scheduled speakers were unable to attend. 13:16 greenjimll If anyone wants to write a trip report on Kohacon19 for Ariadne journal, I hear the editor is willing to listen. :-) 13:16 Charles_Quain Looks like we will have a surplus of about €2000 in the budget. 13:17 ashimema #info Kohacon19 will have a nice report sent out in the next few days 13:17 Charles_Quain still some final bills to come in. 13:17 Charles_Quain I'd like to suggest that we use the surplus to fund some development in Koha. 13:17 Charles_Quain Maybe put it on the agenda for the next IRC 13:17 caroline_catlady are the results from the survey to be included in the report or is that just for you/next year's info 13:17 caroline_catlady ? 13:18 Charles_Quain No, the survey will be there too. 13:18 ashimema we've jumped down the agenda a bit.. but that's fine with me.. kohacon is good to talk about 13:18 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed! 13:18 wahanui Congratulations! 13:18 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9 build #754: FIXED in 29 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9/754/ 13:19 ashimema #info There should end up a reasonably surplus on the Kohacon19 budget, lets discus a good use of that at the next meeting 13:20 ashimema #info Sponsoring a development or donating it as a starter kitty for the next Kohacon in NZ are just a couple of options 13:20 ashimema anything else kohacon Charles_Quain 13:20 Charles_Quain Think that's all - sorry for messing your agenda sequence! 13:21 ashimema let's move on then :) 13:21 ashimema #topic Update on releases 13:22 ashimema #info I'm pushing bugs only for at least another couple of weeks whilst I get up to speed as a new RM for 19.11 13:22 ashimema rmaints? 13:22 wahanui rmaints is, like, ashimema and fridolin are the rmaints 13:22 ashimema haha.. that needs an update now 13:23 ashimema no, rmaints is fridolin, lucas and wizzyrea 13:24 ashimema hmm 13:25 ashimema none of them are around.. 13:25 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_U18 build #248: STILL UNSTABLE in 40 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U18/248/ 13:25 ashimema #info The new team is all in place and we're all warming up to the new cycle 13:25 fridolin hi 13:25 tcohen Martin, push the accounts work as it gets through QA 13:25 tcohen don't delay it 13:25 tcohen :-D 13:26 greenjimll Is there a particular area of future development/bugs that needs focusing on? 13:26 ashimema Was going to discuss that with fridolin to make sure I don't make his life too hard early on.. but I'm of the same opinion 13:27 ashimema I'll be sending a mail to the dev lists later this week with some dev targets.. I'm a little behind where I'd hoped to be 13:28 ashimema #info RM will send a mail later this week with some general target area's for this cycle 13:28 ashimema acquisitions is one area I hope to get us working together on 13:29 ashimema right now focus on bugfixes 13:29 ashimema next topic 13:29 ashimema #topic Training meeting proposition 13:29 caroline_catlady oh yes, that's me 13:29 ashimema davidnind: That one is our isn't it? 13:30 ashimema oh.. coolios 13:30 caroline_catlady I had written something somewhere 13:30 caroline_catlady let me just find it 13:30 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D8 build #264: SUCCESS in 42 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D8/264/ 13:30 ashimema the floor is yours :) 13:31 caroline_catlady Ok, so during Kohacon, a conversation sparked during one of the conferences (i think it was donnab 's?) 13:32 caroline_catlady about how the organizations (support companies, et al) all have practices and materials for training that we develop in our corner 13:32 caroline_catlady but we thought it might be interesting to share 13:32 caroline_catlady so the idea was to propose to add a meeting to the calendar where trainers/educators could exchange on ideas/best practices/materials 13:33 caroline_catlady I don't think it's necessary to do one every month like the others 13:33 caroline_catlady maybe 3-4 per year? 13:33 caroline_catlady (anyone feel free to jump in) 13:33 donnab I think quarterly would be good 13:33 georgew i think it's an awesome idea 13:33 ashimema #idea Lets share more documentation materials and training practices with each other. 13:33 ashimema is irc the right format or are you thinking something more like a video conf? 13:34 caroline_catlady I don't think there would be a set agenda like there is for actual meetings 13:34 donnab I think a video conf would be better 13:34 caroline_catlady I hadn't thpought of that 13:34 georgew NEKLS might be able to offer the use of a Zoom room for this type of meeting 13:34 Charles_Quain I agree that it is a terific idea 13:35 lisette Sounds like a great idea! 13:35 caroline_catlady So the idea here was to set a date for a first meeting 13:35 georgew it would depend on scheduling, but we have two Zoom accoounts that are usually available 13:35 caroline_catlady then we can iron out the details 13:35 ashimema would you 'host' it caroline/david or would you rotate hosting it around participating organisations? 13:35 ashimema good meet is also an option.. we've always found it to be very reliable (and free) 13:36 georgew I'd be willing to host the meeting on one of our Zoom accounts and, after the meeting is started it's not hard to give control of the meeting to someone else 13:36 caroline_catlady zoom accomodates how many people? 13:36 caroline_catlady I have a free zoom account but i've never used it 13:36 donnab I can offer the ByWater education zoom room too 13:36 georgew our accounts will accomodate up to 100 attendees 13:36 donnab a webinar will hold 100 people 13:36 caroline_catlady holy cow! 13:36 ashimema fancy proposing a date on the lists as a first step caroline? 13:36 * ashimema now sees that as a challenge :P 13:37 caroline_catlady would you like me to send a doodle/framadate to the list or decide on a date here and now? 13:37 ashimema I think a doodle/framadate is probably best.. that should catch a few more people who may be interested 13:38 georgew i'd prefer a doodle or framadate poll - then I could indicate if there were any times that our Zoom accounts were unavailable 13:38 * ashimema knows he's not got the ptfs-e trainer calenders to hand and I'm sure they're like to attend ;) 13:39 caroline_catlady #action caroline_catlady will send a doodle/framadate to the list to determine a date for a first trainer/educator meeting 13:39 caroline_catlady (can I action even if I'm not chair?) 13:39 ashimema awesome, you beat me to it 13:39 ashimema I 'think' you can 13:39 ashimema but for good measure 13:39 ashimema #action caroline_catlady will send a doodle/framadate to the list to determine a date for a first trainer/educator meeting 13:40 caroline_catlady I think that was it unless other people had input on this subject? 13:40 Charles_Quain Interleaf will definitely be part of it. 13:40 caroline_catlady Oh something else! 13:40 ashimema brill 13:41 caroline_catlady During Kohacon, it was also decided that we would create a catalog for plugins 13:41 caroline_catlady rangi proposed setting up a koha for plugins and 'cataloging' them 13:42 caroline_catlady inLibro will host the installation and I will start to catalog them 13:42 ashimema haha.. brilliant 13:42 caroline_catlady If anyone has a repo for their plugins, please send it to me 13:43 caroline_catlady I also wanted to widen the purpose of that catalog a bit and maube add training materials 13:43 ashimema #info caroline_catlady is going to start cataloging koha plugins, please send her your repositories if you've built any plugins. 13:43 caroline_catlady like youtube videos and things 13:43 greenjimll Cataloguing Koha release documents? 13:43 ashimema are you aware of the bibliography? 13:43 thd I assume that Zoom provides faciltiies for recording the session for everyone's future benefit. 13:43 caroline_catlady ashimema: yes 13:43 caroline_catlady I will try not to deduplicate 13:43 caroline_catlady but it's still just an idea 13:44 greenjimll Not to deduplicate? 13:44 caroline_catlady right now the focus is on plugins 13:44 * ashimema likes having 'one place to rule them all' 13:44 caroline_catlady nsorry not duplicate what is in the bibliography 13:44 greenjimll :-) 13:44 ashimema there was also some discussion about adding plugin listings to mana.. I think there's a bug for it.. but who knows when/if we'll have a chance to do it. 13:45 caroline_catlady anyway, that's all I wanted to say 13:46 donnab I think it's an awesome idea caroline and will be happy to help in any way I can! 13:46 caroline_catlady thx donnab :) 13:46 ashimema ++ 13:46 ashimema teamwork++ 13:46 ashimema so.. I think that just leaves us with setting a time for the next meeting 13:47 ashimema #topic Set time of next meeting 13:48 thd The first Wed. 3 July but also a day before independence day holiday in the US. 13:49 ashimema hmm, is that going to be a challenge for our friends over in the US then.. should we try a little earlier/later? 13:49 thd Late on the day before independence day could be very bad for participation from the US. 13:50 thd The following week should be fine for the US and may be before people in Europe leave for summer holidays. 13:50 ashimema we could postpone it by a week 13:50 Charles_Quain I dont have any particular preference 13:50 ashimema so 10th.. sounds good to me 13:51 ashimema and what time shall we make it 13:51 ashimema 20 UTC 13:51 * ashimema digs out a timezone display 13:51 wizzyrea good morning friends bah I missed the meeting 13:53 ashimema ok,, 10 July 2019, 20 UTC it is unless I get any other options in the next minute or so? 13:53 Charles_Quain OK with me 13:53 kidclamp +1 13:53 davidnind +1 13:53 thd 18 UTC was the previous meeting. 13:54 ashimema that timing should mean we might catch a NZ person perhaps 13:54 georgew +1 13:54 ashimema 8pm UK, 3pm US and 7am NZ (unless my math is out) 13:55 ashimema of course.. US has lots of different times.. i know you lot are spread about ;) 13:55 ashimema ok with that too thd.. or did you have any particular want of it being 18UTC? 13:55 thd 20 UTC may be more in the direction of the previous alternate norm but I am not certain. 13:55 Charles_Quain Lovely. Talk soon. 13:56 davidnind there is hope :) 13:56 davidnind https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/IRC_Meetings 13:56 ashimema #info Next meeting: 10 July 2019, 20 UTC 13:56 ashimema #endmeeting 13:56 huginn` Meeting ended Wed Jun 5 13:56:55 2019 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) 13:56 huginn` Minutes: http://meetings.koha-community.org/2019/general_irc_meeting_5_june_2019.2019-06-05-13.08.html 13:56 huginn` Minutes (text): http://meetings.koha-community.org/2019/general_irc_meeting_5_june_2019.2019-06-05-13.08.txt 13:56 huginn` Log: http://meetings.koha-community.org/2019/general_irc_meeting_5_june_2019.2019-06-05-13.08.log.html 13:57 ashimema thanks all 13:57 caroline_catlady ashimema++ 13:57 davidnind ashimema++ 13:58 * ashimema goes and runs the meetings script 13:59 * caroline_catlady hates choosing dates for a poll 14:00 caroline_catlady I don't want to put 45 dates on there, but I have no idea of the range 14:00 donnab pick 10 14:00 greenjimll Pick a month and then pick dates in that month you're available as a starter 14:01 caroline_catlady I feel like june is too soon, but July and August are vacation months 14:01 greenjimll You're never going to please everyone, even with a Doodle poll. 14:02 caroline_catlady you're right, I always try to please everyone.... 14:02 donnab last couple of weeks of June should be fine! 14:02 davidnind strike while the iron is hot! 14:03 ashimema agree 14:04 oleonard #info Owen Leonard -- Too late! 14:05 ashimema lol 14:06 ashimema ouch.. i forgot we're in BST over here.. I just set the next meeting to be at 9pm UK.. lol 14:06 ashimema oh well 14:07 caroline_catlady it's hard to get a good time for both NZ and western europe... 14:08 caroline_catlady it's excatly 12 hours I think, so anything during the day in one place is during the night in the other 14:09 davidnind just have to be night owls I guess :) 14:13 ashimema indeed 14:14 wizzyrea yeah nz is a real problem 14:14 oleonard yeah, ashimema I don't think you get to complain to davidnind :) 14:14 wizzyrea well it's just 12 hours :) 14:15 davidnind :) 14:16 ashimema haha.. I'm always amazed at your attendance davidnind.. huge commitment :) 14:16 ashimema davidnind++ 14:16 * ashimema runs off on a school run.. brb 14:19 davidnind Does anyone know who has the Koha YouTube channel access info? https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCqOmLE1-kt84liiG5233BRQ 14:19 davidnind Would like to start curating playlists and things... and maybe add Kohacon videos 14:21 oleonard Not listed here, unfortunately: https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_on_Social_Networks 14:21 oleonard (that page is almost certainly out of date) 14:22 caroline_catlady There is a small section on here https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Roles_for_19.11 but it doesn't say who has the admin password 14:24 davidnind Maybe tcohen, as the video on the channel is from the one they did for Kohacon in Argentina 14:24 davidnind Which was in 2014 14:25 tcohen davidnind: me! 14:26 tcohen I created it, and gave access to wizzyrea (at least tried) 14:29 tcohen caroline_catlady, davidnind I have access to the YouTube channel, I created it. Let's talk about handing you control 14:29 caroline_catlady what do you need? 14:30 caroline_catlady email address? 14:30 davidnind thanks tcohen! that would be great! 14:30 caroline_catlady (davidnind You can take care of it, I will just be a backup) 14:30 * oleonard looks forward to more cat videos on the YouTube channel 14:31 davidnind caroline_catlady: that would be great! 14:33 davidnind always need a backup... 14:38 davidnind tcohen: my email is david.nind@gmail.com 14:38 davidnind right, better try and gets some zzzs 16:04 oleonard Thank goodness for meetings or logbot would have nothing to do 16:17 reiveune bye 19:07 wizzyrea hi everybody 20:08 rangi morning