Time  Nick           Message
21:06 Veronica       I have 3 libraries as show the search result of a single specific library in koha
20:39 Joubu          no idea, leaving. See you tomorrow
20:02 Joubu          thx :)
20:00 wizzyrea       anyway I have to go away for kid pickup now
19:58 wizzyrea       that's what mine looks like
19:58 wizzyrea       ok 3 - has value for JSON Pointer "/22/library_id"
19:58 Joubu          tcohen: where are the loooogss?
19:57 Joubu          other failures repeat 'we got 404, 404, 404, ...'
19:57 wizzyrea       whooah
19:57 Joubu          first failure on libraries.t, super useful
19:57 Joubu          #   at t/db_dependent/api/v1/libraries.t line 92.
19:57 Joubu          #   Failed test 'has value for JSON Pointer "ARRAY(0x55c791f5cb48)"'
19:56 Joubu          I've certainly done that already :)
19:56 wizzyrea       on the kohaclone files, if you use an external one
19:55 Joubu          permissions on which files?
19:55 wizzyrea       now I try not ever to run them at the same time
19:55 wizzyrea       I've had the permissions go funny occasionally on the clone when I switch between the two
19:55 wizzyrea       ok do you happen to use the same kohaclone for both devbox and docker (if you use that)
19:54 Joubu          do we have special logs for the rest api?
19:54 wizzyrea       hmmm
19:54 Joubu          I did that, and provision, and reset_all :)
19:54 wizzyrea       i mean of course you thought of that
19:54 wizzyrea       reboot the devbox first :P
19:53 wizzyrea       well
19:53 Joubu          I have no idea how to start debugging this
19:53 wizzyrea       k yep then all ok for me
19:53 Joubu          yup
19:53 wizzyrea       you don't mean docker right you do mean the vagrant devbox
19:53 Joubu          erk
19:52 wizzyrea       I'm All tests successful
19:51 Joubu          I can GET from the browser, but the tests are all returning 404
19:51 wizzyrea       1s it's booting
19:51 Joubu          prove t/db_dependent/api/v1/libraries.t
19:51 wizzyrea       joubu ^
19:50 wizzyrea       what do I need to do?
19:50 wizzyrea       i have a devbox
19:48 Joubu          someone around using kohadevbox and having the api tests passing?
18:54 oleonard       See y'all later
18:50 wizzyrea       there I think that trio of badness is all rdy for QA
18:49 wizzyrea       there there
18:49 * wizzyrea     pats Joubu gently
18:48 Joubu          "sorry, I am wrong" is my favourite answer today... erk
18:37 wizzyrea       k
18:37 Joubu          absolutely not
18:36 wizzyrea       if not I'll make a wee follow up
18:36 huginn`        Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=22905 critical, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Cannot upate the status of suggestions if the branchcode filter is set to all
18:36 wizzyrea       joubu did you mean to leave use Data::Printer colored => 1; warn p $suggestion; in your patch on bug 22905
18:32 wizzyrea       knowing both is good :)
18:31 wizzyrea       naw that's good because getting it to run in devbox has been a problem
18:25 * Joubu        reads too slowly...
18:25 Joubu          wizzyrea: locate start_selenium, run it as vagrant user. Then you should be good to prove tests in t/db_dependent/selenium
18:24 Joubu          ashimema, wizzyrea: I think I have it now
18:16 indradg        hi wizzyrea lisettelatah
18:15 lisettelatah   hi wizzyrea
18:14 wizzyrea       hi indradg lisettelatah
18:14 wizzyrea       yes I do that is very easy with docker.
18:12 wizzyrea       nm I see I think
18:11 wizzyrea       I should knkow how to do this
18:11 wizzyrea       how do you run the selenium tests
18:11 wizzyrea       alright in testing docker
18:08 huginn`        Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=22907 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Cannot add new suggestion with strict SQL modes turned on
18:08 wizzyrea       hm but you do want a signoff on bug 22907?
18:06 wizzyrea       ha don't be it's alright
18:06 Joubu          sorry :)
18:06 wizzyrea       hehe
18:06 Joubu          it's wrong :)
18:06 Joubu          no, forget that
18:05 wizzyrea       I have an environment for that >.>
18:05 wizzyrea       you are wanting a signoff on 22907 ay
18:05 wizzyrea       Oooh joubu!
17:59 huginn`        Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=22905 critical, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Failed QA , Edit suggestions - wrong branchcode behavior
17:59 Joubu          ashimema: still on bug 22905?
17:51 wizzyrea       https://cdn-images-1.medium.com/max/1600/1*Uj3nFQckzthDi8i-GVEuVQ.jpeg
17:51 wizzyrea       ashimema, this was how I felt this morning
16:59 oleonard       Maybe lunch will help
16:54 wizzyrea       it'll help.
16:53 wizzyrea       you should play some tetris
16:52 oleonard       I should work on something more straightforward, like putting colorful blocks in holes which match their shapes
16:52 huginn`        Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=22284 new feature, P5 - low, ---, agustinmoyano, Needs Signoff , Groups of pickup locations for holds
16:52 wizzyrea       bug 22284 is baking my noodle
16:52 wizzyrea       :( sorry oleonard
16:49 oleonard       My brain is definitely busted.
16:25 Joubu          ashimema: should we fix on a separate bug report?
16:24 * cait         doesn't knwo what you all are debating... but good luck! bbl I guess...
16:23 ashimema       'tis in Log.t though
16:23 ashimema       did you want to fix the last occurence or shall I?
16:22 ashimema       I so should have done that
16:22 ashimema       crap
16:22 Joubu          ashimema: `git grep datenonly` => 3 occurrences!
16:22 wizzyrea       well that particular bug would be enraging to librarians
16:22 ashimema       that's interesting too
16:21 ashimema       thanks for testing.. it's great having good testers to rely on
16:21 wizzyrea       they ran a lot faster on devbox than they did on docker
16:21 wizzyrea       idk, they were failing in a lot of ways
16:20 ashimema       very strange
16:20 ashimema       glad they're passing.. still wondering why they were failing
16:20 wizzyrea       it's extremely strange
16:20 ashimema       how strange
16:18 wizzyrea       lol
16:18 wizzyrea       idfk
16:18 wizzyrea       well I took the nuclear option and rebuilt a new docker and now the tests pass
16:14 * ashimema     agrees
16:13 Joubu          but yeah, better to ->search then ->count, even for readability.
16:11 ashimema       ;)
16:10 ashimema       well.. more than two
16:10 Joubu          it does not matter much
16:10 ashimema       we have two options
16:10 ashimema       which is wrong
16:10 ashimema       we just allow the use of count through Koha::Objects
16:10 tcohen         \o
16:09 alex_a         \o/
16:09 ashimema       there's another hole in logic there
16:09 wizzyrea       oleonard, that is fork toss worthy
16:09 cait           alex_a++
16:09 ashimema       to..
16:09 ashimema       just as I suspected
16:09 ashimema       so actually we want to actively discourage passing params to count unless we're not just passing through to dbic
16:08 tcohen         Joubu— # inconsitencies
16:08 ashimema       Yeah..
16:04 Joubu          well, this is not correct, but you get the idea (or not?)
16:04 Joubu          with ->search we will hit Koha::Objects->search, which may be surcharged
16:03 Joubu          they must be identical
16:01 * ashimema     is keen on consistency.. but isn't really sure in this case
16:01 ashimema       is that something we want to encourage or discourage I wonder..
16:01 ashimema       query for you Joubu.. I note in that test we use ->count(search_params) rather than the ->search(search_params)->count form..
16:00 ashimema       lol
16:00 ashimema       wt..
15:59 oleonard       wizzyrea: I too would like to throw down my fork. https://screenshots.firefox.com/aHvfx19PceDsOjbT/kohadev-staff.mylocalkoha.org
15:59 ashimema       hard ot fix when you can't replicate the issue
15:58 ashimema       I really can't get Circulation.t to fail for the other patchset though :(
15:58 ashimema       hope you're OK with my alternative posted now
15:53 Joubu          I did not think about the perf impact it could bring
15:53 Joubu          ashimema: yes we could replace it
15:53 ashimema       it's actually caused by a typo in the test!
15:53 ashimema       gonna submit an alternative to your last patch Joubu
15:51 ashimema       :vsplit
15:51 wizzyrea       https://media.tenor.com/images/6a0b0bcccdc18952fd7f760052530126/tenor.gif it's me
15:50 ashimema       I don't really like that actionlogs test
15:46 ashimema       lol
15:45 Joubu          that was a bit unexpected to see another test failing after I fixed 3 others before :)
15:45 wizzyrea       WHAT EVEN.
15:45 wizzyrea       omfg it's something different every time
15:45 ashimema       I can see reasonable reasons for that actually.. but.. I wonder how often logaction is called and whether the DateTime performance inpact will be annoying
15:44 ashimema       using perl datetime instead of mysql for the timestamp
15:44 ashimema       I love the last patch there Joubu
15:44 ashimema       wow
15:43 ashimema       lol
15:43 * wizzyrea     backs out all the patches and puts on all the ones from joubu
15:43 wizzyrea       omg circulation.t is SO RANDOM.
15:42 ashimema       I believe you wizzyrea, sometimes these things are evil to replicate
15:41 huginn`        Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=22877 major, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Signed Off , Returning a lost item not marked as returned can generate additional overdue fines
15:41 ashimema       anyone else fancy trying the tests from bug 22877
15:41 wizzyrea       gr this is annoying
15:40 wizzyrea       mine aren't the same  as that tho
15:40 huginn`        Bug 22917: normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Circulation.t fails if tests are ran slowly
15:40 wizzyrea       https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=22917
15:39 ashimema       I'm afraid I can't get it to fail :(
15:39 huginn`        Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=22917 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Circulation.t fails if tests are ran slowly
15:39 Joubu          see the fix like the one on bug 22917 for random failures
15:39 ashimema       passed again
15:39 wizzyrea       and I just ran it again and it's just 117 again
15:38 wizzyrea       88-91, 95-97, 117
15:37 wizzyrea       it's very odd. Oh now it's failing a bunch of things?!
15:36 wizzyrea       this time it was devbox but I think I ran it in docker yesterday
15:36 wizzyrea       yea mine was test 117
15:35 ashimema       re-run three commences
15:35 ashimema       odd.. re-run it and it passes
15:33 ashimema       `not ok 130 - CanBookBeIssued & RentalFeesCheckoutConfirmation`
15:33 ashimema       ooh.. I get a completely urelated test fail now
15:31 ashimema       I'm re-running the tests now
15:31 ashimema       or a different one?
15:31 ashimema       same failure as before?
15:29 ashimema       :(
15:29 ashimema       it runs fines in koha-testing-docker for me now
15:29 ashimema       how are you running it.. wonder if it's expecting existing data or something?
15:28 ashimema       oh, relaly
15:27 huginn`        Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=22877 major, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Signed Off , Returning a lost item not marked as returned can generate additional overdue fines
15:27 wizzyrea       ashimema, I still can't get your new test for circulation.t to pass on bug 22877
15:25 ashimema       but that's for another day
15:24 * ashimema     thinks it could be a prime place to explore using API + Vue/React/Whatever
15:23 ashimema       it's totaly mad how it fits together.. I'm sure it grew really organically.. someone was probably very proud of each bit they added ;)
15:23 reiveune       bye
15:23 ashimema       it needs a significant refactor at some point
15:22 huginn`        Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4069 critical, P5 - low, Oldversions, henridamien, CLOSED FIXED, organize filter on suggestions doesn't work
15:22 wizzyrea       there were bugs about this all the way back at bug 4069
15:22 wizzyrea       heh
15:19 ashimema       I can see why it gave you a headache
15:19 ashimema       it's a royal mess aint it..
15:19 ashimema       haha
15:19 Joubu          ashimema: do not hesitate to let FIXME behind you while writting a fix ;)
15:16 Joubu          ashimema: I am wondering if all the filters/views options we have are really necesary
15:12 ashimema       this code is horrible :'(
15:12 ashimema       it seems to be very deliberate to be using the filter params in a shared way
15:11 ashimema       nope.. the more I dig into this the more my brain hurts
15:10 wizzyrea       ashimema, I feel like I'm a bad news bear this morning
15:10 wizzyrea       :(
15:10 wizzyrea       it's tricky that one
15:05 cait           like who shoudl see them...
15:05 cait           just we got a tono f bugs relating to that issue too
15:05 ashimema       it's the re-use of param names that's screwing with us
15:05 cait           ok :)
15:05 ashimema       I don't think those one's are the issue
15:05 cait           anon susggestion feature adds them but i think you can also manage in the gui somehow without it
15:04 cait           whatever you do... keep in mind there are suggestions without a branch
15:04 ashimema       I have one more idea up my sleeve
15:02 ashimema       tere's more to it :(
15:02 ashimema       I was hoping I'd got the quick fix.. but alas it doesn' work
15:01 ashimema       agreed
15:00 Joubu          the other issues are old
15:00 Joubu          I think we need a quick fix for the "change status" action
14:59 wizzyrea       You get a wish! and YOU get a wish!
14:59 wizzyrea       i imagine librarians feel a bit like oprah when they "check all" -> mark as accepted
14:58 ashimema       hmm.. perhaps
14:57 wizzyrea       it seems to always work using the edit button
14:57 wizzyrea       hide the batch editor
14:57 wizzyrea       if you are not a user to whom the suggestion belongs
14:57 wizzyrea       would be
14:57 wizzyrea       I was wondering if (a) solution
14:56 ashimema       that area of code melted my brain
14:56 ashimema       nah, it's likely not you
14:56 wizzyrea       lol
14:56 wizzyrea       because i always wonder that
14:56 wizzyrea       but I wonder if i'm doing it wrong
14:56 ashimema       blast
14:55 wizzyrea       I couldn't get your patch to make any difference to the behaviour
14:55 huginn`        Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=22905 critical, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Failed QA , Edit suggestions - wrong branchcode behavior
14:55 wizzyrea       bug 22905
14:55 ashimema       ?
14:55 wizzyrea       ashimema, about?
14:54 Jess           I am running Zebra, thank you, I will try this
14:53 Joubu          Jess: some info on the wiki: https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Troubleshooting_Zebra ; First make sure the zebra daemon is running (you are running zebra right?), then a full reindex will certainly fix your problem
14:46 Jess           Hello!  I was wondering if anyone had a solution to books not showing up in the search option after manually entering into the catalog system?  Any suggestions would be fantastic.  It worked in the past but has stopped working.  Cannot even be searched under barcode number, but can be checked out and checked in.
14:44 wizzyrea       ww
14:44 wizzyrea       er
14:44 wizzyrea       14570
14:38 huginn`        Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=22928 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, ASSIGNED , "Update child to adult patron" link no longer displayed
14:38 Joubu          paxed: bug 22928
14:36 oleonard       Yes, even after dealing with the cache
14:35 Joubu          ;)
14:35 Joubu          oleonard: it's cached!
14:34 * oleonard     forgot that working with columns_settings.yml always involves some incantations
14:31 Joubu          paxed: I will do it then
14:30 paxed          Joubu: not yet, i didn't have time to look any further into it
14:30 Joubu          paxed: did you report the issue already?
14:24 Frank_Purcell  Joubu: I have actually closed everything and cant find the link, but i had a few open at the time trying to resolve it. Ill let you know when i find it in myhistory.
14:20 Joubu          Frank_Purcell: the question is super important, our install documentation is correct: https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_on_Debian
14:18 oleonard       Hi wizzyrea
14:17 wizzyrea       hi
14:17 Joubu          Frank_Purcell: which documentation are you following?
14:15 Frank_Purcell  Joubu: thank you
14:15 oleonard       Super easy to embed a column configuration in the batchmod template, but it wouldn't tie in to global preferences
14:14 Joubu          Frank_Purcell: try with http://debian.koha-community.org/koha/gpg.asc
14:11 Joubu          tcohen: or you maybe?
14:11 Joubu          Frank_Purcell: that's wrong from our side, I am asking the person in charge of that
14:10 oleonard       ...Except maybe the title column in batch mod?
14:10 huginn`        Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=22926 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Use standard columns configuration on batch item modification and delete pages
14:10 oleonard       I'm working on Bug 22926... It seems like I should just be able to drop in the columns config for the additems table and have it work
14:08 kidclamp       additesm is under columns config i think, and the other is a custom js file?
14:04 oleonard       Does anyone know the difference between the way columns are selected for display on the add item screen compared to the batch modification screen?
14:04 Frank_Purcell  Hi all, quick question, when inserting: [wget -o- http://debian.koha-community.org/gpg.asc |sudo apt-key add-] I get response: Connecting to debian.koha-community.org | connected. HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 404 Not Found. gpg: No valid OpenPGP data found.
14:01 Joubu          ashimema: will have a look
14:00 Joubu          ho wait sorry, I have the try in the pm
13:58 paxed          Joubu: hm.
13:58 Joubu          paxed: it works for me on master at first glance
13:58 paxed          Joubu: i pinged you because apparently that was your code
13:57 huginn`        Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=22847 critical, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Specific circ rule by patron category is displaying the default (or not displaying)
13:57 ashimema       bug 22847.. I don't think it's required for 18.11.x but wanted to double check with you on that
13:57 ashimema       just the person I wanted to see
13:57 ashimema       oh.. Joubu
13:53 Joubu          paxed: what is the context? If it just for a count, you could use .size, as you will get an array
13:53 paxed          Joubu: the "update patron to adult" menu option didn't show up because of it
13:52 Joubu          paxed: yes it's a known 'bug', we could force the context in the TT plugin
13:46 eythian        https://www.at5.nl/artikelen/194062/live-museumplein-stroomt-vol-voor-huldiging-ajax there's a giant party around marcelr's work
13:41 magnuse        national holiday here tomorrow, see ome of y'all in dublin on monday!
13:35 magnuse        Frank_Purcell: oh noes...
13:25 Frank_Purcell  Sigh! im still getting Hash Sum mismatch errors.
13:16 Frank_Purcell  nevermind, got it +)
13:14 Frank_Purcell  Okay im logged in, but it looks like it hasnt installed some aspects of the GUI. I only have Network, Volum, and Power displayed top right. How do i manually open terminal? I dont have the "activities" option on the top left
13:01 Frank_Purcell  took like 5mins then it loaded the GUI. i logged in and its been another 5mins on a black screen... will wait and see if i can get in then will test commands in the terminal
12:58 Frank_Purcell  sorry "Failed to start Raise network interfaces."
12:56 Frank_Purcell  [FAILED] Failed to start Raid network interfaces.
12:56 Frank_Purcell  when booting up [6.182713] [drm:vmw_host_log [vmwgfx]] *ERR*R Failed to send log
12:53 Frank_Purcell  no list of options to install. so still a repository mirror issue. But lets hope i got the files i needed from the ISO
12:53 Frank_Purcell  once again "retry" is getting me further... so weird... now it jumped straight into GRUB after saying retry
12:51 Frank_Purcell  installation successful but still got the error on "Configure the package manager" -selected South African mirror...
12:40 calire         turns out my work laptop is not set up so I can close the lid and carry on working :D
12:39 calire         hehe thanks oleonard
12:35 oleonard       welcome back calire!!!
12:32 tuxayo         🤞
12:32 Frank_Purcell  atleast im learning so many new things
12:31 Frank_Purcell  knowing my luck Ill get the same error and the fix is super complicated =P I gave it 20GB now up from 8GB so lets see =)
12:28 tuxayo         That's a bit of a relief that it was only that, hopefully nothing more will block you
12:26 tuxayo         Ho ^^"
12:25 Frank_Purcell  will set more space and see what happens
12:25 Frank_Purcell  WARNING **: Configuring 'liv-installer' failed with error code 1.
12:25 Frank_Purcell  tar: write error: Broken pipe
12:24 Frank_Purcell  o0 looks like i ran out of space?? (process:7325): tar: write error: No space left on device
12:23 Frank_Purcell  "installation step failed" The failing step is: install the system
12:23 Frank_Purcell  damn
12:23 Frank_Purcell  "Install the system" "Installing the system..." "Copying data to disk..." its about half way, and this is where it crashed last time.
12:20 * magnuse      wanders off for a bit
12:19 magnuse        ooh, i'd make sure i had the latest version
12:19 Frank_Purcell  yea, update became available this morning but i wanted to try a few more times before updating
12:19 tuxayo         Is there an update available for your virtualbox?
12:18 Frank_Purcell  i would have said maybe an issue with Debian 9.9.0 but magnuse said it ran without an issue
12:18 Frank_Purcell  Do you think it could be bugs with the virtualbox version?
12:17 tuxayo         Frank_Purcell: yes, and maybe ask on the debian channel  #debian how to get more info if it's not enough.
12:15 Frank_Purcell  No error message just "Failed stage: Install the System" i should have pressed ctrl alt f5 should i? running it agin quick
12:13 tuxayo         how does it fails?
12:13 magnuse        any error messages?
12:13 Frank_Purcell  my installation is failing now... at a much earlier stage "Install the System" ... what a waste of a 2gb download
12:12 tuxayo         So indeed that should help with your issues.
12:11 tuxayo         Frank_Purcell: «this installation is running alot slower, clearly install quite a bit more - which is a good sign» This isn't a netinstall with the live isos, internet might even be optional during the install.
12:11 Frank_Purcell  yip, but its quite extensive in regards to sending and communicating lines. There is nothing I am aware of that has the complexity to differentiate lines as much. Im in sales but recently did a training session on SIP2
12:11 ashimema       I think 'dootrix' are the most recent people to try to change that magnuse
12:10 magnuse        it's mind numbing that SIP2 is still the standard for communicating between ils'es and physical equipment...
12:10 Frank_Purcell  The internation director will be here on the 6th of June until the 11th, I will mention to him and see if i can start something
12:09 magnuse        that would be cool
12:09 oleonard       https://www.interleaf.ie/list-of-donors/
12:09 Frank_Purcell  exactly
12:09 oleonard       Frank_Purcell: Currently the Koha community can receive support in the way of code contributions/testing/documentation, or in sponsorship of events like KohaCon
12:08 Frank_Purcell  they dont offer an ILS, but they are partnered with the likes of SirsiDynix. They should partner with you guys and use some of the funds to donate back to the koha community for development purposes
12:07 Frank_Purcell  thats sad. maybe i can change that one day
12:07 * magnuse      too
12:07 ashimema       they're just another self service vendor in my experience
12:07 magnuse        nah, i don't tink they have had any contact with the community
12:07 ashimema       they don't support Koha directly as far as I'm aware no
12:07 Frank_Purcell  as far as im concerned, the Koha community has the best interests of the community at heart, so i thought bibliotheca would be involved with this
12:06 Frank_Purcell  They are trying to help librarians spend less time on physical and repetitive tasks by automating it, and increase event and community integration
12:05 Frank_Purcell  I mean as a company do they support your community
12:05 magnuse        what changes are that?
12:05 magnuse        well, Koha supports SIP2, so it mostly works, i think
12:05 Frank_Purcell  because it would be directly in line with the changes they are trying to make in the world
12:04 Frank_Purcell  Do they support you guys? as in Koha
12:04 magnuse        yeah, i think it is hard to run an ils and not get in contact with them :-)
12:03 Frank_Purcell  just by the way, my company is partnered with bibliotheca - not sure if any of you deal with them? They are global giants in regards to Security equipment, RFID, automated returns and sorting etc
12:02 Frank_Purcell  haha =P well this installation is running alot slower, clearly install quite a bit more - which is a good sign. "Installing the system" now
12:01 magnuse        ah, the jokes one could have made a few years ago... ;-)
12:00 Frank_Purcell  I uninstalled my AV and only using Microsoft defender now, disabled firewall
12:00 magnuse        *outside
12:00 magnuse        nah, i don't think domain name should affect your ability to download stuff from utside
11:59 magnuse        could it be related to anti virus on your machine?
11:59 Frank_Purcell  could it possible be because I set a domain name instead of leaving it blank?
11:58 Frank_Purcell  yeah, i thought it had to be the network because everything i saw on google says DNS issue or firewall. But no luck
11:57 ashimema       very very wierd
11:57 magnuse        so weird if you tried 3 different internet connections, and they all behave the same
11:55 Frank_Purcell  let me try the new ISO quick with Gnome
11:55 Frank_Purcell  hence the Select and Install doesnt work
11:55 Frank_Purcell  as mentioned, they usually fail but i keep "retrying" until it goes through. But then i dont get the page that offers the GUI or the SSH Server so i now believe the repository didnt work at all. it just allowed me to continue
11:54 magnuse        i did not change anything about the networking
11:54 magnuse        i'm on vb 5, so yours should be better
11:54 magnuse        wow, how weird
11:54 Frank_Purcell  i tried all mirrors in south africa, as well as ftp US and ftp UK
11:53 Frank_Purcell  I used graphic install and virtual box 6.0.6 r130049 (Qt5.6.2)
11:51 Frank_Purcell  When I select a mirror, it begins to download files up to the 7th file. Often, it says Failed to access mirror. But then I hit retry and it eventually works (recently it has been working on the first, or second attempt). Once that is done, it begins "Select and Install Software" - this completely fails. I have to ignore this and was hoping to manually add the repository and apt-get update from the terminal but this didnt fix the issues.
11:49 oleonard       ( Frank_Purcell note that huginn` responds that way because he thinks using @ like that is a bot command )
11:48 wahanui        i already had it that way, huginn`.
11:48 huginn`        Frank_Purcell: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready
11:48 Frank_Purcell  @magnuse sorry I only saw your questions now. Will reply in 2secs
11:48 Frank_Purcell  I have also tried this from 3 internet sources. My Home internet, a family members home internet, and my mobile Wifi. This could be a local network block... I wonder how to bypass. Ive just downloaded the Gnome version, so hopefully all required files including SSH server will be there and I dont need the repositories until a bit later. lets see
11:42 ashimema       almost feels like local networking blocking your requests to the repo's at this point Frank_Purcell
11:41 magnuse        Frank_Purcell: i just downloaded https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/amd64/iso-cd/debian-9.9.0-amd64-netinst.iso, set up a vm in vb, booted off the iso, selected a mirror in south africa (i'm in norway) and ran through the install process without problems
11:35 ashimema       I've grabbed the patch for 18.11.06 but that's not out yet and there are a couple of other gremlins I wanted to get fixed before release :(
11:34 huginn`        Bug 22895: critical, P5 - low, ---, nick, Pushed to Stable , [18.11] cannot place item level holds
11:34 ashimema       https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=22895
11:33 ashimema       sorry indradg, there's a bug for that.. my mistake on a backport I think :(
11:29 magnuse        Frank_Purcell: did you try selecting a mirror in South Africa
11:28 indradg        what could be the case?
11:27 indradg        memcached, mysql, koha-common restarted
11:27 indradg        things were working perfectly on 18.11.02... upgraded and *boom*
11:27 indradg        I´m getting a unblessed error against itemnumber while attempting to make an item level hold on 18.11.05
11:25 oleonard       Hi all from me too!
11:24 wahanui        hi oleopard
11:24 magnuse        hi oleonard
11:24 magnuse        hi indradg
11:24 indradg        Hia all
11:23 magnuse        which version of VirtualBox?
11:22 magnuse        Did you choose "Install" or Graphical install"?
11:18 magnuse        is this where you get the .iso from? https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/amd64/iso-cd/
11:16 magnuse        So selecting a mirror works, but then when the system starts downloading stuff there are problems?
11:14 magnuse        ah, ok
11:14 Frank_Purcell  nope, Im on my own internet, through my wifi router (with sim card)
11:12 magnuse        sounds like a network problem? could there be a firewall blocking you?
11:03 Frank_Purcell  You see the part where Debian Desktop Environment and Standard System utilities is selected by default, and you must also select SSH Server, I dont even get those options because the mirror/repository doesnt download or connect properly. Without those files, I cannot install koha through the terminal
11:01 Frank_Purcell  Hi tuxayo, Ive checked that guide and ive basically done everything identically... So i am not sure why it didnt work. Will keep trying diferrent ISO's and maybe Ill try an older version of Debian.
09:52 tuxayo         www.brianlinkletter.com/installing-debian-linux-in-a-virtualbox-virtual-machine/
09:52 tuxayo         weird, the Debian 8 was instalable with the net install in VirtualBox, so Debian should also be.
09:39 Frank_Purcell  debian-live-9.9.0-amd64-gnome.iso	2019-04-27 12:50	2.2G
09:39 Frank_Purcell  apparently you have to use the "live iso" to get it to work in VirtualBox. so now im downloading 2.2GB Debian 9.9.0 Gnome
09:32 Frank_Purcell  I dont even get asked for the "configuring popularity contest" page as I dont think i connect to the the mirror successfully
09:31 Frank_Purcell  i cant get past 2:29 on his video
09:31 Frank_Purcell  http://kohageek.blogspot.com/2017/06/install-koha-on-debian.html
09:29 Frank_Purcell  didnt work =( same issue. brand new ISO
09:17 tuxayo         Frank_Purcell: you might was to check the integrity of the downloaded isos before installing in case something went wrong with the download
09:13 Frank_Purcell  will try that now
09:13 Frank_Purcell  ive just downloaded debian-9.9.0-amd64-xfce-CD-1.iso
09:13 Frank_Purcell  debian-9.9.0-amd64-netinst.iso
09:13 tuxayo         Frank_Purcell: which install media (Debian iso) are you using?
09:12 Frank_Purcell  my issue is almost identical to this. I am trying the suggested fix but doesnt seem like its working
09:11 Frank_Purcell  yes
09:11 Frank_Purcell  https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=820074
09:11 tuxayo         Frank_Purcell: So you are in the Debian instalation if I understand correctly?
09:08 Frank_Purcell  After select archive mirror (United Kingdom, (ftp.uk.debian.org)
09:07 Frank_Purcell  I had issues when selecting package manager, but eventually it when through and downloaded. Thereafter I get the error when installing whatever files it downloaded
09:07 Frank_Purcell  Hi tuxayo
09:06 Frank_Purcell  Menu items 'pkgsel' failed.
09:06 Frank_Purcell  Error after package installation using ctrl-alt-F4 brings up: "Warning**: Configuring "pkgsel" failed with error code 100.
09:06 tuxayo         «Select and install software» In which procedure are you stuck?
09:06 tuxayo         hi Frank_Purcell  :)
09:04 Frank_Purcell  I wont give up, I believe in open-source and I believe libraries have a crucial role. Koha fits perfectly into my life =)
08:58 cait           and i am not a linux person myself :(
08:58 cait           Frank_Purcell: don't give up yet, I am sure it will work out - but as martin said we are a bit frantic right now before the conf
08:52 * ashimema     runs into meeting.. bbiab
08:51 ashimema       that really is so strange :(
08:51 Frank_Purcell  I keep clicking retry and eventually it goes through to :"Select and install software" and then this fails too
08:51 Frank_Purcell  immediately there are issues during the installation. I havent even got fair and the package manager selection is giving issues
08:49 Frank_Purcell  your guys help has been wonderful so far, I have no complaints. Im new to this and came in with very little knowlege besides the operation part. I was expecting to struggle
08:48 ashimema       you've picked a rather busy time in community I'm afraid.. lots of the most active people are all gearing up for the next releases and our anual conference so we're all running around like mad at the moment
08:48 Frank_Purcell  maybe I will format my pc, or partition it, and try the installation that way
08:47 * ashimema     is thinking, trying to se if thre's any other advice I can give you
08:44 Frank_Purcell  I love libraries, and if my company tells me to throw this idea out the window, I may just quit and do it privately. But i am not wealthy and dont have the finance to sustain myself
08:44 * ashimema     has even run koha on a raspberrypi before
08:43 Frank_Purcell  this is true.
08:43 ashimema       fair points
08:42 ashimema       chicken and the egg problem then.. you're trying to install koha 'the hard way' first.. I say 'the hard way'.. but really it seems you're struggling with virtualbox more than anything else
08:42 Frank_Purcell  The OS part I am aware I wont have to deal with it much. but we are a technical company who wants proof that our knowledge is sufficient if something goes wrong.
08:41 Frank_Purcell  We are happy to rent a server, exactly as mentioned above, but only if I can prove to get the Koha installation correct.
08:40 ashimema       you can get some pretty reasonable cloud systems these days for not allot of money.. DigitalOcean for example will give you a perfectly adequat debian system for $5USD a month
08:40 Frank_Purcell  I used an image to install Koha on Ubuntu. and its locally on my VM. but i can seem to get the web side working. Once i showed my company the software on my PC they were impressed, but I need to connect it to the web.
08:39 Frank_Purcell  lets put it this way
08:38 Frank_Purcell  Yes, they want my version to look like the bywater one after installation
08:38 ashimema       so it's a fairly long term demo system
08:38 ashimema       there are a few demo online for example:https://koha-community.org/demo/
08:37 Frank_Purcell  I need it up and running completely to have a web accessible version, as for content inside Koha, we can slowly add patrons, media, rules, etc. Similar to the ByWater solutions demo, and the other demos on the Koha site
08:36 ashimema       how much of a demo do they need/want?
08:35 Frank_Purcell  Its a case of, if I can help our libraries with Koha, more money can go into the community or other library events
08:34 Frank_Purcell  so basically they are laughing at me with all these issues, thinking that Koha cant make a difference for our clients. But our clients are paying ridiculous amounts for imported LMS/ILS. People take advantage of government offices in SA because we dont have local production to compare to. Especially with software
08:32 Frank_Purcell  So i believe in Koha but my company doesnt. we are the largest provider for all libraries in South Africa. we can make a huge difference for our communities here but I need to get it up and running first. Ive sacrified my person PC, which is here with me at work. I dont want to lose everything, so i thought i could test it with VirtualBox. If i get the demo up and running perfectly, the company will buy or rent our own server and then I can repeat the
08:31 * ashimema     hasn't used it for ages.. but it's basically just Koha in a VM fully installed and ready to work with for dev.. but I don't see why it wouldn't work for general playing with either
08:31 ashimema       cait: do you think the kohdadevbox might be simpler to get going for the above?
08:30 ashimema       so.. why are you installing it in a vm.. just for playing with?
08:30 ashimema       I'm just really surprised it's not working for you
08:30 Frank_Purcell  100% understood
08:30 Frank_Purcell  yeah i feel like a fool because its the OS installation im not getting right, not even koha
08:30 ashimema       it's usually a simple case of 'install debian from netinstall or iso, add koha debian repositories, install koha with apt'
08:29 Frank_Purcell  im struggling to install debian in such a way where the Koha installation goes smoothly. Certain aspects of the OS installation are critical and result in complicated error fixing if the install was not perfect
08:29 ashimema       I've never ever had it fail on my with all the issues you're having
08:29 ashimema       for me the 'ideal state' is a standard debian server install
08:29 ashimema       for me the 'ideal state' is a standard debian server instal
08:28 ashimema       to be entirely honest
08:27 cait           and then the rest is up to what you want to do with it and what you prefer
08:27 cait           or the Debian devs consider what you get when it's installed the ideal state
08:27 cait           i thik there probably is not an ideal state
08:25 Frank_Purcell  cant someone set up the OS to the ideal state, make an image of it, and then upload that image? then everyone can restore the image on their VM/PC and continue with their own personalised koha installation
08:24 Frank_Purcell  quick question: no one has a link for debian OS preinstalled ready to install Koha?
08:21 Frank_Purcell  definitely a repository issue. so now im downloading the XFCE CD version instead of the netinstaller ISO of debian. hoping that the required files will be included in the XFCE version - it is much bigger
08:14 ashimema       I'm all out of idea now I'm afraid
08:13 Frank_Purcell  didnt work ashimema. I am getting the exact same errors. So i followed a guide to skip that part and once again update the /etc/apt/sources.list. but still getting hash sum mismatch errors when running apt-get updates and apt-get upgrade
08:09 magnuse        kia ora cait!
08:04 ashimema       mornin' cait
08:04 cait           good morning #koha!
07:51 ashimema       and restart the VM (or just restart networking within it) for it to pick up it's own IP
07:50 ashimema       I tihnk the tl:dr is change it from NAT to Bridged
07:49 Frank_Purcell  thank you ashimema, ill try this now
07:44 ashimema       is another example walkthrough
07:44 ashimema       https://superuser.com/questions/17265/why-would-my-windows-7-inside-virtualbox-not-see-other-computers-on-network
07:43 ashimema       you want to set the NAT on VirtualBox
07:43 ashimema       but it's simple enough
07:43 ashimema       I can't remember how to do it off the top of my head
07:43 ashimema       a 20s google gave me this: https://www.techrepublic.com/article/how-to-set-bridged-networking-in-a-virtualbox-virtual-machine/
07:42 ashimema       VirtualBox needs to be configured to expose the external network to the internal OS
07:33 Frank_Purcell  i feel like it is a DNS problem because im going through Virtual Box
07:33 Frank_Purcell  but its like intermittent network loss... i can see it gets a few files and then stops. sometimes closer to file 7 which is the furthest it goes before bombing out
07:32 Frank_Purcell  if i continue without package manager, once in terminal i dont have sudo installed and receive alot of Hash Sum errors. when googling the errors, it was stated the be a sources.list problem (or package manager). so now im trying to select a mirror to resolve these issues before they happen and cant select any mirror
07:27 Frank_Purcell  how do i check that from the VM during installation?
07:25 liliputech_asu Hi Frank_Purcell can you make sure you can access the network from the VM? like what gives a ping to any external service?
07:15 Frank_Purcell  Installing Debian 9.9.0 on Windows 10 through VirtualBox, I am getting "failed to access the mirror" when selecting any mirror link. This means that even sudo wont be preinstalled which gave me endless problems. Can anyone assist?
07:13 Frank_Purcell  good morning everyone
07:00 alex_a         bonjour
06:57 ashimema       anywho.. moving on
06:57 ashimema       yup.. then calling scalar is a nonsense
06:55 wahanui        bidet, reiveune
06:55 reiveune       hello
06:55 magnuse        http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=blob;f=Koha/Template/Plugin/Categories.pm;h=140f12a3957b36c61368b28084975af7b8d3542e;hb=HEAD
06:55 magnuse        it's a wrapper around "return Koha::Patron::Categories->search_limited($params);"
06:55 * ashimema     thought is was core to TT
06:55 ashimema       so is 'all' on of our plugins
06:54 magnuse        ...according to the POD
06:54 magnuse        "In a template, you can get the all categories with the following TT code: [% Categories.all() %]"
06:52 * ashimema     is currently reminding himself what `all` actually does
06:52 magnuse        i would guess [% IF Categories.all(category_type => 'A').count > 0 %]
06:52 ashimema       exactly
06:52 magnuse        and why both scalar and count?
06:52 magnuse        yeah, that looks wrong
06:50 ashimema       surely calling all on a scalar is wrong
06:46 marcelr        hi #koha
06:18 paxed          cait: his client is on, so he should notice the ping eventually
06:09 cait           paxed: wrong time, he is in Argentina
05:50 paxed          ping Joubu ^
05:49 paxed          Categories.all works. use Categories.scalar.all just returns an empty string.
05:48 paxed          so this doesn't seem to work on master: [% IF Categories.scalar.all(category_type => 'A').count > 0 %]
05:43 * paxed        grumbles
05:31 fridolin       hi
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