Time Nick Message 03:12 Jeddah Sir i would like to ask po how we can avail KOHA po? 03:12 Jeddah thank you po. 03:12 Jeddah Our school is open last year so I would like to use KOHA po sana. 06:34 marcelr hi #koha 06:38 magnuse \o/ 06:38 magnuse @seen drojf 06:38 huginn` magnuse: drojf was last seen in #koha 23 weeks, 1 day, 11 hours, 23 minutes, and 26 seconds ago: <drojf> -s 06:40 reiveune hello 06:40 wahanui que tal, reiveune 06:58 alex_a Bonjour 07:40 Archie^ The overdues module really takes a LOT of time to load :/ 07:42 ashimema overdues module.. what do you mean? 07:43 ashimema `/cgi-bin/koha/circ/overdue.pl` 07:43 ashimema loads almost instantly for me 07:44 calire anyone know why I would get 'fatal: read error: Connection reset by peer when doing a git pull on master? 07:45 ashimema it can be a transient issue dependant on git server load ocassionally 07:45 ashimema I'd just try again in a few minutes 07:45 Archie^ Circulation -> overdues. I'm pressing it and it loads forever 07:45 calire ashimema: thanks 07:46 ashimema if you're really stuck try a mirror 07:46 ashimema ;) 07:47 calire that is above my knowledge leves ;) 07:47 ashimema I would have suggested the gitlab one.. but it's failing to mirror at the moment :( 07:47 calire *level 07:49 ashimema rangi recommends https://repo.or.cz/koha.git/ 07:53 ashimema so.. I have the followup for my setup 07:57 ashimema https://paste.debian.net/1082294/ 07:57 ashimema calire: ^ 07:57 ashimema actually, I re-wrote what I have just for you... as I have loads of remotes setup which you wouldn't need 07:58 ashimema but the basic idea hold.. I use the 'lower traffic mirror' for git pulls and assign that as 'origin'.. and I have 'upstream' setup to the community hosted site just in case the mirror goes down (and because as rmaint I 'push' to upstream) 07:59 Archie^ Ya i'm getting Proxy Error every time i'm trying to execute overdues from circulation module 07:59 calire ashimema thanks, I'll take a look :) 08:01 ashimema https://paste.debian.net/1082295/ is better (I had a typo in the original paste, sorry) 09:54 paxed hm. where's the data for biblio-table inserted? 10:38 ashimema @later tell wizzyrea I found the error in bug 22610.. it's the confusing nature of the sip_emulator parameters ;) 10:38 huginn` ashimema: The operation succeeded. 10:42 Archie_ ok so are you telling me there is NO way to modify how and where search works? 10:42 Archie_ we are getting constant feedback from librarians that they don't need to see items in libraries on the other side of the country 10:44 Archie_ so the question is: how "modifyable" is koha in a sense that, can i do it by plugin or do i need to modify search itself ? 10:47 ashimema have you not already been given a raft of answers for this Archie_ 10:48 Archie_ all i got from magnuse that i can separate it on OPAC side and thats about it 10:48 Archie_ so i'm not really sure how plugins work in koha and what are the restrictions / possabilities here 10:50 ashimema Koha is open source.. you can contribute to it either directly or through plugins.. if the plugin system isn't extensive enough for you're needs you can submit core patches to extend the plugin hooks easily enough too 10:51 magnuse plugin capabilities are not well documented, i'm afraid, but you can get an idea by looking at this sample plugin: https://github.com/bywatersolutions/koha-plugin-kitchen-sink/blob/master/Koha/Plugin/Com/ByWaterSolutions/KitchenSink.pm no plugin-capabilities for search yet, though 10:52 magnuse does the IndependentBranches syspref affect search? i don't remember... 10:52 ashimema I am not a trainer, I am a developer and as such I haven't given you much advice there as I'm not in possession of that information without going and reading the manual or the code to figure it out.. I'm pretty confident you can limit searches to holding branches in both opac and staff clients though 10:53 ashimema I'm sure I've done it for clients in the past, but I can't remember how 10:54 Archie_ i'm a project manager so it's difficult for me to get on the technical side 10:56 ashimema perhaps you should investigate the independantBranches preferences 10:56 ashimema is this a big consortia you're managing.. sounds like it 10:56 ashimema if your talking about libraries the other side of the country 10:59 Archie_ well we are switching all of the libraries of the country to Koha 10:59 ashimema one massive install? 10:59 Archie_ no, it's gonna be one by one 10:59 Archie_ but right now librarians have access to our demo 10:59 Archie_ with some data. So they are giving us feedback what should be different and what they don't understand 10:59 ashimema So where is the problem? 10:59 ashimema I don't understand 10:59 ashimema we are getting constant feedback from librarians that they don't need to see items in libraries on the other side of the country 11:00 ashimema either you've got all the libraries on one massive system and as such you're seeing items from all over the place or you haven't 11:00 magnuse yeah, if there will be one library per instance, the search is a non-issue 11:00 Archie_ we are trying to do all of that in one instance 11:00 Archie_ since that is the prefferable way 11:02 ashimema it sounds like a massive project to me.. I would highly suggest hiring a company to help you impliment it.. Koha is open source and gpl (meaning you don't have to pay for a lisence) but it's not a simple point a click piece of software (out of necessity.. libraries of complex entities with varying needs).. support companies exist to learn all the details of the software and advice you on it's use. 11:03 Archie_ do you have any suggestion for such companies? 11:03 ashimema we've spent years building up that knowledge and contributing to the ecosystem.. as much as I might like to 'just hand it all over' to you free of charge it would still take me years to do so for you to get the experience we have.. 11:03 marcelr Archie_: which country is switiching to Koha ? 11:03 ashimema Where in the world are you? 11:03 marcelr hmm 11:03 Archie_ Latvia 11:04 marcelr ok 11:04 marcelr nice 11:05 ashimema hope I wasn't coming accross as rude there.. I just wanted to make sure you weren't getting frustrated.. the main take away is "Koha's big, don't expect to grasp everything overnight" 11:06 magnuse on the opac side it is possible to create separate opacs for each library, i think this is a pretty good description of how to do it: https://subscription.packtpub.com/book/web_development/9781849510820/13/ch13lvl1sec74/multiple-opac-interfaces 11:06 ashimema https://koha-community.org/support/paid-support/continent/ is a reasonable start for looking for a support company 11:07 magnuse there is also the SearchMyLibraryFirst syspref 11:08 Archie_ right, gonna look into that support site ;) thanks magnuse 11:09 ashimema as for personal recommendations (I work for PTFS-Europe based in the UK.. so I'll let anyone else here comment on us).. I'd say Biblibre (Based in france) are usually a good bet, Catalyst (New Zealand - perhaps a little far for you), Libriotech (That's magnuse in Norway), ByWater Solutions (Based in the USA) are some of the most active here and as such I know of their solid reputations. 11:10 magnuse PTFS-Europe has a good reputation too, ashimema is just being (very) modest :-) 11:10 ashimema They also probably command some of the higher prices though as they're the bigger outfits.. and that's totally my opinion.. there are other great providers on that list... I've dealt with many of them over the years and haven't really had any terrible experiences so far 11:11 Archie_ Alright, sounds like a good idea to hire some consultation agency 11:11 magnuse yeah, Koha is a pretty extensive piece of software 11:12 ashimema you are always welcome to ask questions here of course.. just we're all fairly busy allot of the time and we're a reduced audience.. it's also worth asking on the mailing lists as that often reaches a larger audience.. even if the response isn't so immediate ;) 11:13 Archie_ magnuse: for a open source, yeah it is 11:16 ashimema Sweden have a great and active users group too, they may be interesting to talk too about such a project aswell :) 11:18 Archie_ sweden is SUPER expensive tho ;D 11:19 Archie_ literally just went to vacation there. 11:33 * oleonard waves 11:33 Archie_ hi oleonard 11:33 wahanui hi oleopard 11:44 cait hi oleonard! 11:44 wahanui hi oleopard 11:49 eythian hi 11:49 wahanui privet, eythian 11:50 koha-jenkins Project Koha_18.11_D8 build #81: FAILURE in 8.7 sec: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_18.11_D8/81/ 11:50 koha-jenkins Project Koha_18.11_D8 build #82: STILL FAILING in 8.1 sec: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_18.11_D8/82/ 12:08 magnuse anyone familiar with the galadriel plugin from bywater around? we are trying to change the font (family). the selected font shows for a second, then the default font from opac_18.1105000.css "takes over" 12:13 koha-jenkins Project Koha_18.11_D9 build #83: SUCCESS in 24 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_18.11_D9/83/ 12:15 oleonard magnuse: I would say that's a bug in the plugin. In order to override the dynamically-loaded font it has to be specific: ".fonts-loaded body { 'Arima Madurai' }" 12:29 magnuse oleonard: what do you mean by "specific"? 12:29 oleonard A more specific CSS selector 12:29 koha-jenkins Project Koha_18.11_U18 build #77: SUCCESS in 33 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_18.11_U18/77/ 12:34 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed! 12:34 wahanui Congratulations! 12:34 koha-jenkins Project Koha_18.11_D8 build #83: FIXED in 39 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_18.11_D8/83/ 12:35 eythian a browser's debug tools are often useful for telling where a CSS rule is that's controlling something. 12:46 magnuse yeah, i think we figured out what is happening 12:47 magnuse just wondering if there is something we are missing, or if it is a bug 12:50 oleonard magnuse: The plugin should be updated to inject different CSS so that it will correctly override the default 12:54 magnuse Petter will report it as an issue on github 13:38 tcohen morning al 13:38 oleonard Hi tcohen 14:00 wizzyrea hi 14:00 wahanui salut, wizzyrea 14:01 davidnind hi wizzyrea 14:01 davidnind no caroline_catlady yet:-( 14:01 luchvh Hi all 14:02 davidnind hi luchvh and AndyBoze! 14:02 AndyBoze Hello! 14:03 davidnind Welcome on board the documentation team AndyBoze, thanks for intro to the docs list! 14:03 AndyBoze Glad to be here. 14:04 davidnind #startmeeting Documentation IRC meeting 9 May 2019 14:04 huginn` Meeting started Thu May 9 14:04:04 2019 UTC. The chair is davidnind. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 14:04 huginn` Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 14:04 huginn` The meeting name has been set to 'documentation_irc_meeting_9_may_2019' 14:04 davidnind #topic Introductions 14:04 davidnind #info David Nind, Wellington, New Zealand 14:05 davidnind apologies if I'm a little slow, not that great at chairing meetings! 14:05 luchvh #info Lucy Vaux-Harvey, PTFS Europe 14:05 AndyBoze #info Andy Boze, University of Notre Dame, Indiana, USA 14:08 davidnind Looks like it is just us! 14:08 davidnind #topic Action points 14:08 ashimema hello 14:08 wahanui hey, ashimema 14:08 ashimema #info Martin Renvoize, PTFS Europe 14:09 davidnind Hi ashimema! 14:09 ashimema no Caroline? 14:09 ashimema would appear not 14:09 davidnind Not yet, so I started without her... 14:10 ashimema okies 14:11 davidnind Just a quick update on my action points, feel free to ask any questions 14:11 cait sorry - just saw a ton of pm - have to run to catch a bus, will be back tonight :) 14:12 cait oh oops meeting :( 14:12 davidnind #link https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Documentation_IRC_meeting_9_May_2019 14:13 davidnind Automated screen capture will probably take a little longer to get working 14:13 ashimema do you think perhaps for the next cycle it might be ready? 14:13 ashimema anything we can do at kohacon to help get it working? 14:14 * ashimema wants to have an even more amazing manual to 19.11 ;) 14:14 davidnind I hope I can get it ready, will still require some manual screenshots 14:15 davidnind At kohacon would be great if anyone has got any experience with selenium tests and the robot framework 14:15 * ashimema is somewhat out of the loop manual wise (too many fingers in too many pies already).. but is happy to help grab dev helpers where needed.. I know rangi is already looking into translation a bit. 14:15 ashimema are you around for the workshops? 14:15 davidnind Repository is here https://gitlab.com/davidnind/koha-automated-screenshots 14:15 wahanui i already had it that way, davidnind. 14:15 ashimema I'm sure we could find a moment to get some intersted expertise involved 14:16 ashimema cool, thanks 14:16 davidnind I will be around for the workshops, so is something we could work on 14:17 davidnind I have the basics working for the easy screenshots, so it is initially just adding definitions for each screenshot to capture 14:18 davidnind ashimema: that would great, I just general google things and make them up as I go along! 14:18 ashimema sounds great 14:18 ashimema more collaboration is my mantra at the moment ;) 14:18 davidnind Is anyone else on the documentation team going to kohacon? 14:18 ashimema I believe caroline is 14:19 ashimema and lucy ^ 14:19 luchvh I'm there for the first 2 days but not the workshops 14:19 davidnind great! 14:19 luchvh Hoping to get to meet some doc team members though 14:21 davidnind I think most of us will be there, so that will be great! As well as rangi and cait and others who have being involved/still involved and have a keen interest in having good documentation. 14:22 luchvh Sounds good! 14:22 davidnind Style/content development guide (which incorporates workflow a-z): working on an outline, but not much further to report on this one :-( 14:23 davidnind Last meeting there was an idea of having a doc sprint day, similar to previous bug squashing day 14:24 davidnind Does anyone have any thoughts on that? 14:24 davidnind Main thing is finding a suitable time, or just run over a 24 hour period. 14:25 ashimema sounds like a good idea to me 14:25 luchvh It's not something I've done before but happy to be involved 14:25 ashimema though yeah, as you say, finding a suitable moment is key 14:26 ashimema I think really it's just a case of announce a 'date' and promote it' 14:26 AndyBoze I'd be happy to participate. 14:26 davidnind I'll send a proposed date(s) to the mailing list, and we can see how it goes as an experiment! 14:26 ashimema and rather than limiting it to a 24 hour period, let it run for the whole 'day' worldwide (to try and catch multiple continents.. I think that's usually how it works for bug squashing events 14:27 wizzyrea it is 14:27 wizzyrea start it at midnight kiribati, end midnight what is it, hawaii time? 14:28 ashimema the advantage for bug squashing is we have leaderboards and things ready to go (and the dashboard).. It would be great to get that sort of thing for documentation pull requests.. gamigication of submissions and all that 14:28 davidnind good idea! 14:29 wizzyrea https://gitlab.com/koha-community/koha-dashboard 14:29 wizzyrea if someone enterprising wanted to add things 14:29 davidnind #info David to organise documentation bug squashing day, most likely after kohacon 14:30 davidnind wizzyrea++ 14:30 davidnind would be good to have a dashboard 14:30 ashimema haha.. it's been on my list to add docs pull requests to that for ages ;) 14:31 luchvh So how does it work? Is there a list of 'to dos' that we would work from? 14:32 davidnind I guess we could create a list of suggested tasks to focus (small, medium and large) and then see how we go 14:32 ashimema I think that would need to be the case yes.. I would suggest a page be created of taigia (if that's what you guys are most familier with still) with such a list.. 14:32 ashimema or gitlab issues works well if not 14:32 ashimema perfect 14:32 ashimema there is also of course the keywords in bugzilla 14:33 ashimema that's a list I'm constantly adding to and will continue to add to as RM 14:33 davidnind I don't think we are short of tasks for the documentation! 14:33 luchvh Agreed!! 14:34 davidnind caroline (and I guess me now) keeps on eye on bugzilla doc bugs and adds them to the Taiga.io list 14:34 ashimema https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/buglist.cgi?bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=In%20Discussion&bug_status=Needs%20Signoff&bug_status=Signed%20Off&bug_status=Passed%20QA&bug_status=Pushed%20for%20QA&bug_status=Failed%20QA&bug_status=Patch%20doesn%27t%20apply&bug_status=Pushed%20by%20Module%20Maintainer&bug_status=Pushed%20to%20Master&bug_status=Pushed%20to%20Stable&bug_status=RESOLVED 14:34 ashimema &bug_status=VERIFIED&bug_status=CLOSED&bug_status=BLOCKED&f1=keywords&keywords=Manual%2C%20&keywords_type=allwords&list_id=281380&o1=allwords&query_format=advanced 14:35 * ashimema still isn't entirely sure of the procss for removing that 'Manual' keyword once something has been written 14:36 davidnind not sure either, I guess we ca just remove it once the work is done 14:36 ashimema and at what point during a bugs life the Manual keyword should be added.. 14:36 ashimema I may even require an existing pull-request for some bugs before I'll merge them as RM.. I don't like new features going in entirely undocumented.. makes them really hard to discover for new users. 14:37 luchvh I must admit I find it difficult to work what needs doing 14:37 ashimema that doesn't mean you guys are responsible for such submissions btw.. more I want the original devs to get on board with documenting what they're submitting (whether that's themselves or them grabbing someone from their company to help) 14:38 davidnind with my documentation hat on, I would say a bug isn't finished until the docs are done ;-) 14:38 ashimema Style/content development guide (which incorporates workflow a-z): working on an outline, but not much further to report on this one :-( 14:38 ashimema so that does seem to be a bit of a limiting factor for contributions still then 14:39 davidnind luchvh: it is a bit overwhelming at the moment I think 14:39 ashimema well.. I'm happy to encourage such a thing next cycle :) 14:39 davidnind #info Style/content development guide (which incorporates workflow a-z): working on an outline, but not much further to report on 14:40 davidnind feels guilty about that, but will make it a priority, will also help new and potential contributors 14:41 davidnind at the moment we have https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Editing_the_Koha_Manual 14:42 davidnind Last year/the year before we ran a video conference session to work through the workflow, do you think this is something we should do again? 14:42 luchvh There is lots of good info on there - enough to get me started with some simple updates. 14:42 ashimema I get he feeling it's mostly 'where to pull work from' that's still confusing people.. 14:43 ashimema the 'how to do the work' bit is fairly good now in my opinion 14:43 luchvh It would definitely be useful to have a session I think 14:43 ashimema always can be improved.. but it's certainly not terrible ;) 14:44 davidnind totally agree ashimema and luchvh! 14:44 davidnind #info look at having a general video session on the workflow for new contributors 14:45 davidnind #topic What's been done so far 14:46 davidnind I have nothing to report, there have been a few merges including some changes from luchvh! 14:47 ashimema There is a documentation workshop at kohacon of course ;) 14:47 luchvh I've submitted a few really small changes 14:47 davidnind luchvh++ 14:47 luchvh nothing of any substance! 14:49 luchvh I guess I'm OK just carrying on with that? 14:51 luchvh It's just bits I come across myself really - as I've said I'm not 100% sure what 'should' be tackled from taiga etc 14:51 davidnind more than happy, under the priorities for 19.05 item I'd like to come up with a priorities list 14:51 Nemo_bis https://www.hanken.fi/en/news/modular-based-information-environment-line-sustainable-solutions 14:52 davidnind Nemo_bis++ 14:52 davidnind Since we are running out of time, maybe we can just skip to the priorities for 19.05 release 14:53 davidnind #topic Next steps 14:54 davidnind For priorities I think there are new features and release notes 14:55 davidnind Draft release notes are here: https://gitlab.com/koha-community/koha-release-notes/blob/master/release_notes_18_12_00.md 14:57 davidnind Where there are no text update needed on bugzilla for 'Text to go in release notes' field (on right hand side), for example: https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15774 14:57 huginn` Bug 15774: new feature, P5 - low, ---, nick, RESOLVED FIXED, Additional fields for baskets 14:58 davidnind For new features caroline has added all the bugs to Taiga.io task list https://tree.taiga.io/project/ldjamison-kohadocs-1805/ 14:59 davidnind So maybe assign any of these to yourself that you want to work on 14:59 davidnind AndyBoze and luchvh: do you have access to Taiga.io? 15:00 luchvh Yes I do, Caroline helped me to get set-up 15:00 AndyBoze I haven't gotten an account yet but will do. 15:00 davidnind Excellent! 15:00 wahanui darn tootin' it is. 15:01 luchvh I can see lots of items added - that's great 15:01 davidnind got to love wahanui! 15:02 davidnind Does anyone have any particular things they want to work on? 15:03 davidnind I'm keen to get something added for the new mana feature https://tree.taiga.io/project/ldjamison-kohadocs-1805/us/819 15:04 davidnind If it would help I can create a small priority list and send it to the list 15:04 ashimema ++ 15:05 davidnind #info David to send a priority list to the mailing list 15:05 ashimema I've been poking Bywater to document the new daily/hourly rental charges feature ever since it passed QA.. but I don't think they've gotten to it yet.. that might be a good one for someone to pick up 15:06 davidnind #info Focus is on release note descriptions and new features for 19.05 15:06 ashimema :) 15:06 davidnind That sounds like a good one to add! 15:06 davidnind #topic Next meeting 15:07 davidnind Does this time suit you lucyvh and AndyBoze? 15:08 davidnind Can make early or later 15:08 AndyBoze Yes, this time should generally work for me. 15:08 luchvh It's right on school pick-up time for me i'm afraid 15:08 luchvh But I'm usually out for 5/10 mins 15:09 luchvh Happy to stick with this time if it suits others 15:09 davidnind Could make it an hour earlier, would that work better? I'm pretty flexible. 15:11 luchvh Yes, would be good if others don't mind 15:11 AndyBoze It would depend on the day of the month. I occasionally have a meeting on Thursday the hour prior to this. 15:12 davidnind Would normally be the first Thursday of the month, the day after the General IRC meeting 15:12 davidnind But we can move it around to suit if required 15:13 davidnind Suggested time for next meeting 6 June 13:00 UTC https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=Koha+Documentation+IRC+Meeting&iso=20190606T1300 15:14 AndyBoze I think Thursday will be OK. I checked a couple of months out and my Thursday meeting won't conflict with this. 15:14 davidnind Excellent! 15:14 wahanui darn tootin' it is. 15:14 davidnind #info Next Documentation IRC meeting 6 June 2019 13:00 UTC 15:14 luchvh Great! 15:14 davidnind Anything else for today (and apologies for going over!) 15:14 ashimema well done guys 15:15 luchvh Thanks David 15:15 davidnind #endmeeting 15:15 huginn` Meeting ended Thu May 9 15:15:40 2019 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) 15:15 huginn` Minutes: http://meetings.koha-community.org/2019/documentation_irc_meeting_9_may_2019.2019-05-09-14.04.html 15:15 huginn` Minutes (text): http://meetings.koha-community.org/2019/documentation_irc_meeting_9_may_2019.2019-05-09-14.04.txt 15:15 huginn` Log: http://meetings.koha-community.org/2019/documentation_irc_meeting_9_may_2019.2019-05-09-14.04.log.html 15:16 oleonard documentation_team++ 15:16 davidnind Thanks everyone for putting up with me! 15:16 davidnind luchvh++ 15:16 davidnind AndyBoze++ 15:16 davidnind ashimema++ 15:17 ashimema davidnind++ #thanks for running the meeting :) 15:17 davidnind AndyBoze: welcome to the documentation team, hope it is not too overwhelming at this stage! 15:17 AndyBoze I'm looking forward to working with everyone! :-) 15:18 luchvh AndyBoze++ 15:20 davidnind I guess start with some easy things first, and go from there! 15:20 AndyBoze Sounds like a plan. 15:21 davidnind I'll try and hang out a bit more on IRC, but otherwise an email to the list or me directly should work as well. 15:23 AndyBoze I just created a taiga.io account and can access the KohaDocs project. What do I need to do to get added to the team? 15:25 davidnind AndyBoze: just trying to figure that out, will just be a sec 15:28 AndyBoze davidnind: My taiga.io user name is andybozend if you need that. 15:34 davidnind Thanks AndyBoze, looks like I don't have access to add a new member. Will ask caroline_catlady to give you access - you should get a message when you're added 15:34 AndyBoze Great, thanks! 15:36 davidnind @later caroline_catlady: Could you add AndyBoze as a project member on taiga? Username is andybozend. Thanks! 15:36 huginn` davidnind: downloading the Perl source 15:37 davidnind @later tell caroline_catlady Could you add AndyBoze as a project member on taiga? Username is andybozend. Thanks! 15:37 huginn` davidnind: The operation succeeded. 16:19 wizzyrea v quiet now lol 16:26 davidnind scared away by documentation team! 16:26 * oleonard is still here, always here, never sleeping 16:27 * ashimema is sami-present 16:27 * ashimema has kids, dogs and cats all running around him.. hense being rather distracted.. 16:27 oleonard ashimema is semi-omni-present 16:43 * kidclamp is a gift 16:44 kidclamp {present} 16:44 * oleonard leaves the wrapping on that one 16:44 kidclamp also perishable, keep that in mind 16:45 ashimema lol 16:45 wizzyrea O.o 16:49 * oleonard is saddened to hear kidclamp is not immortal 16:50 kidclamp Oh, I am, I just go bad 16:52 oleonard Evil Kidclamp, A.D. 2150 16:54 wizzyrea kekeke 16:55 * wizzyrea waits for the graphic novel of this conversation 16:55 wizzyrea "KIDCLAMPS GONE BAD: A SAGA" 16:55 oleonard Wow are you telling me comic books aren't just for kids anymore? 16:56 oleonard Someone should alert every hometown newspaper. 16:59 kidclamp "who wrote this recursive self updating code? without unit tests!" 17:00 wizzyrea *GASP* 17:04 reiveune bye 17:05 vero Log in only with a user, such as disabling the password to log in. Thanks 17:08 wizzyrea i feel like that's not something you'd want to do if your Koha is accessible by internet 17:10 vero yes , opac users need only with their user can enter 17:12 oleonard I agree with wizzyrea that that doesn't sound like a good idea. Nor do I think Koha offers a way to do that. 17:13 wizzyrea I know of libraries that have requested that, and have had it implemented, but they were internal to an orginisation 17:13 wizzyrea organisation* 17:14 wizzyrea but I don't think it's something we'd put into core 17:14 wizzyrea even optionally. because it's not a good idea. 17:15 vero thank you 17:20 ashimema anyone know who hosts meetbot? 17:21 wizzyrea gmcharlt I think 17:21 ashimema awesome.. 17:22 * ashimema rethinks his idea 17:22 oleonard FYI bots are listed here: https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/IRC_Regulars 17:23 ashimema oh, cool 17:23 ashimema didn't realise they had a section at the bottom there.. 17:23 ashimema nice 17:31 * cait waves 17:34 wizzyrea hi cait 17:51 wizzyrea hrm does anyone else have trouble with the circulation rules page on current master? 17:51 Joubu something specific to look at? 17:52 wizzyrea does it load at all :P 17:52 oleonard I have trouble with it every time I use it, but that's just because it's so unusable :P 17:52 wizzyrea DBIx::Class::Storage::DBI::_dbh_execute(): Table 'koha_kohadev.refund_lost_item_fee_rules' doesn't exist at /kohadevbox/koha/Koha/Objects.pm line 92 17:52 wizzyrea at /usr/share/perl5/DBIx/Class/Exception.pm line 77 17:52 wizzyrea possibly I just need to dump this DB 17:52 wizzyrea I am breaking up with you, database! 17:53 wizzyrea take that. 17:53 Joubu yup, you certainly tried something that deleted the table 17:53 Joubu like bug 18930 :) 17:53 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18930 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Move lost item refund rules to circulation_rules table 17:53 wizzyrea cool I'll just reset it :) 17:53 wizzyrea yeah that's gotta be the one 17:53 wizzyrea ok thank you 17:53 wizzyrea it's just me carry on 17:54 oleonard wizzyrea I will not rest until I get to the bottom of this!! 17:54 wizzyrea stand down soldier 17:55 wizzyrea all betterer now 17:56 gmcharlt ashimema: question about meetbot? 17:58 oleonard Hi Margaret 17:58 oleonard Hi gmcharlt 17:58 Margaret hi oleonard! 17:58 wahanui hi oleopard 17:58 gmcharlt hi oleonard 17:58 wahanui hi oleopard 18:07 Joubu It would be good to have bug 22433 pushed quickly, to know why the test is failing 18:07 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=22433 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , SIP/Transaction.t is failing randomly 18:07 Joubu super easy to test ;) 18:08 ashimema gmcharlt I was going to ask how feasable it might be too hook off the endmeeting to run a script (which populate the google calendar entries for the next meeting and updates the wiki pages) 18:14 gmcharlt ashimema: seems to me to be a bit overkill, but if you give me a web endpoint that the bot can GET or POST that activates said script, I'm wiling to have the bot invoke it 18:16 ashimema Yeah, I thought twice about it after I initially asked, 18:21 oleonard I don't want to distract gmcharlt from his months-long quest to find a way to get huginn`'s weather-reporting abilities back. 18:21 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 7088: DBRev 18.12.00.068 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e17500f621ec9de63f4cedb2905885b494c81edf> 18:21 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 7088: Compiled CSS <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a0bb818b0bc5acb54a48bf84772d795b2eea53fc> 18:21 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 22790: Add a test <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b40dd03ed54b6b08ad5b338d9d2d2de94de9cdf1> 18:21 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 22847: Correctly displayed circ rule values for max_holds and maxissue* <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=503842ac6c37cdbab2a8868604bd6f1294c829b1> 18:21 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 22790: The system preference itemBarcodeInputFilter is not applied for barcodes... <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=d3f4b50bdd476160d026012154c9f3463b94d37e> 18:21 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 7088: (follow-up) Modify checkbox enabling <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=5f3c849014adad66deae505ff1ef8a7ddb8ea999> 18:21 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 7088: (follow-up) AllowRenewalLimitOverride fix <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=70c6c5dd93f9981a685d811c9e6adfc88508ffed> 18:21 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 7088: (follow-up) Add pref to checkbox <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=1c61e60a17f06f6eb532fff9b7026fe99b818ded> 18:21 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 7088: (follow-up) Default hold checkbox display <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=770212d134e780cef4ad5f0da20fb40a036c5978> 18:21 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 7088: (follow-up) Set syspref default to off <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=89d764352f43004ebc33bea09c8557fd733a1b61> 18:21 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 7088: (follow-up) Remove script "type" attribute <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=3b50efb7d5b8fd366d140be83a000d9afbdf4c02> 18:21 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 7088: (follow-up) Fix renewal limit bug <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=cda1f7a65682573ad6ff7a219e518d508fcc18c6> 18:21 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 7088: Allow renew on hold items with due date <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=c48af49ded481f498087eaf8e4cb530c4cc0a8e9> 18:21 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 7088: Add AllowRenewalOnHoldOverride syspref <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=3e9550019a16d3944816788342eb808f3524d81e> 18:42 oleonard See y'all later 18:45 wizzyrea bye oleo 18:45 wizzyrea nard 18:45 wizzyrea eesh 18:50 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9 build #724: SUCCESS in 26 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9/724/ 19:01 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed! 19:01 wahanui Congratulations! 19:01 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_U18 build #219: FIXED in 36 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U18/219/ 19:04 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D8 build #233: SUCCESS in 40 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D8/233/ 19:32 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 22053: DBRev 18.12.00.069 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=629b2723cb3c654c57e1db2ab206ea163128ccbb> 19:32 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 22811: Add button to clear DataTables filtering <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=94c4a268ac098705c2db703512fc0065fed6a42b> 19:32 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 22053: (QA follow-up) Override enable_plugins configuration <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=1cd1fcc9d72fc031f1aba42eee7e79040f758569> 19:32 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 22053: (QA follow-up) More tests <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=4aa2e16ec18f50dfe7c00f1eafc87a7546b24f04> 19:32 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 22053: update database <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=d0e053e24d05ddc679a56d46ac121c3f4c89a21f> 19:32 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 22053: ability to enable/disable some plugins <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=7394028b27a36b55fd85285a87c8d2f00649e6e9> 19:32 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 22053: create unit tests <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=0a262a214f2c2ff6e836d7283cae413ee354cdce> 19:32 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 21535: Anonymize function in Patron should not scramble email addresses <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=2330a155f6d13c37a81632c3088030c89a877401> 20:00 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9 build #725: UNSTABLE in 26 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9/725/ 20:11 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_U18 build #220: UNSTABLE in 35 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U18/220/ 20:14 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D8 build #234: UNSTABLE in 41 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D8/234/ 20:34 cait lisettelatah++