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22:01 caroline_catlady have a great weekend everyone!
20:37 cait have a nice weekend kidclamp :)
20:37 kidclamp starting with the in discussion queue, shake things up :-D
20:37 kidclamp byeee all! I wil push all the stuffs next week
19:55 huginn` Joubu: The operation succeeded.
19:55 Joubu @later tell oleonard: you are aware of the columns.def file, right? (context: translation of the DB columns for sysprefs)
19:52 cait seems good to go :)
19:50 cait i did a destroy and up again to get it to green
19:48 cait i should try to reindex
19:48 cait it's green
19:48 * ashimema wonders if cait got elastic working
19:27 cait but good you mention it :)
19:27 caroline_catlady ok phew!
19:27 cait might be a setting in preferences
19:27 cait hm I haven't got any
19:27 caroline_catlady cait are you receving an email for each edit that I do in taiga? I'm afraid I'm spamming you
19:22 cait no, but it sounds awesome :)
19:21 caroline_catlady It's a nintendo ds game where you cook stuff, and when you fail "mama" come on the screen and says "mama will fix it" and she looks mean!
19:20 caroline_catlady have you ever played cooking mama?
19:19 cait hm?
19:19 caroline_catlady reminds me of "mama will fix it!"
19:17 cait oleonard++
19:17 cait he will fix it :)
18:58 oleonard Have a good weekend y'all
18:58 oleonard A task for Monday I guess.
18:57 oleonard English strings in a JSON file
18:56 caroline_catlady why? what makes it not translatable?
18:56 caroline_catlady :(
18:56 oleonard My solution is not translatable :'(
18:55 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=22844 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, ASSIGNED , Simplify the process of selecting database columns for system preferences
18:55 * oleonard pulled the trigger on Bug 22844 too early
18:02 Oak :)
17:51 * oleonard enjoyed his moment of being both away and not away
17:17 cait we tried...
17:15 oleonard :|
17:14 cait do you mean the OPAC/catalog or on the staff side?
17:13 oleonard What version of Koha? Did you recently upgrade? Where are you seeing the problem?
17:12 oleonard Can you give us more details?
17:12 Arpine What to do?
17:11 Arpine Hi, I have a problem with koha. In my koha library doesn't display barcode's lines.
17:05 cait tcohen: trying out the fix
15:59 Oak Thanks
15:59 oleonard Sure
15:59 Oak oleonard, may I pm you if you have 5 min.
15:49 oleonard aw, thanks!
15:46 caroline_catlady oleonard++ you're great!
15:46 caroline_catlady yes, looks much nicer
15:46 oleonard Two-column modal version: https://zivotdesign.com/p/view.php?p=15568983061263
15:46 oleonard #1 reason: The multiple-select jquery plugin wasn't working as advertised. But then I realized the modal is probably more user-friendly when there are so many choices.
15:45 caroline_catlady Yeah I like that, what was the reason for the change?
15:44 oleonard Yeah, this was my first go at it: https://zivotdesign.com/p/#1/15567257970310
15:44 caroline_catlady Maybe put it in one column so it's less crowded?
15:44 caroline_catlady I always thought it would be nice to have a dropdown like OpacAdvSearchOptions, but this works too
15:41 caroline_catlady Sorry, I hadn't seen the previous convo
15:40 caroline_catlady I always thought this preference was NOT intuitive for regular users
15:40 oleonard But I do agree with her... Admins and more technical users will probably appreciate it.
15:39 caroline_catlady lol!
15:39 oleonard cait just told me to add it!
15:39 oleonard :D
15:39 caroline_catlady Is it necessary to have the db column name?
15:38 caroline_catlady I like!
15:36 oleonard A little crowded, but I can tweak it: https://zivotdesign.com/p/view.php?p=15568977837455
15:35 cait have to go - have a nice wekeend all!
15:35 cait :)
15:35 cait not sure if we can make it fit, but my coworker says that would be perfect
15:32 oleonard Ah, so maybe include both, like we do with permissions
15:32 cait it's probably beter for the end user this way, but could get confusing fast if your translations don't match up
15:31 cait i like both, but not sure if i prefer databse column... or would like to see both
15:31 cait oleonard: will the options be translatable?
15:29 oleonard Now I'm on to this version: https://zivotdesign.com/p/view.php?p=15568972617173
15:29 oleonard I worked up this proof-of-concept the other day: https://zivotdesign.com/p/#1/15567257970310
14:22 cait and very helpful to confused caits
14:22 oleonard Noisy ninjas
14:22 cait :)
14:20 Oak You guys are like ninjas.
14:16 cait I'll finish with my rebase and then try to get elastic on master going
14:16 ashimema tcohen++
14:16 cait tcohen++ :)
14:16 tcohen cait: the java problem is fixed now
14:13 cait rebasing our branch from 18.11.01 to .05 - 5 minutes... 2 hours to see if it explodes in the dev box heh
14:12 tcohen cait: I'm submitting a fix
14:10 cait sorry!
14:10 ashimema phew.. you had me worried there that I'd released a duff
14:10 cait i really appreciate it
14:10 cait it was the right idea and you tested - that took time
14:09 oleonard ;)
14:09 oleonard I should get extra karma for that very technically detailed suggestion :P
14:08 cait ashimema++ #not guilty at all
14:08 cait fixed! thx a lot! oleonard++ tcohen++ Joubu++
14:02 cait i haven't used my work dev environment in way too long
14:02 cait first have tof ind the docs :)
14:02 cait i will check
14:02 kidclamp what oleonard sai
14:02 kidclamp do you have the rewrite rules in place cait
14:02 cait good idea
14:02 cait it might be that
14:01 oleonard Apache problem, the file versioning thing?
14:01 cait thi sinstallation is pretty old
14:01 Joubu looks ok for me as well
14:01 cait i wonder if I am missing something in Apache
14:01 cait thx oleonard
14:01 oleonard 18.11.x installer working okay for me cait
14:01 cait so no, not loading the correct files
14:00 cait from the web developer tools too
14:00 cait are we missing something there?
14:00 cait hm from source it leads tot he same page
13:59 cait oleonard: i will try it again
13:59 oleonard cait: And the jquery file loads if you click it?
13:59 cait i think if there is a problem, it's specific otn insteller/onboarding
13:59 cait ah no,
13:58 Joubu I am on the mainpage
13:58 cait hm?
13:58 Joubu not hitting the installer!
13:58 cait well a bit
13:58 cait Joubu: not helping :)
13:58 cait that's my page source http://paste.koha-community.org/2660
13:58 Joubu showing up to tell cait it is working for me, 18.11.05
13:57 cait hi Joubu!
13:57 Joubu Hi #koha
13:57 ashimema yup
13:56 cait so... jquery is not there when it tries to execute something, right?
13:56 cait ReferenceError: $ is not defined
13:54 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20658 trivial, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, RESOLVED FIXED, Move template JavaScript to the footer: Installer and onboarding
13:54 cait could it be bug 20658?
13:53 cait they open
13:53 cait looking at the source code nothing red stands out and the libraries are linked properly
13:53 ashimema hope not
13:52 cait ashimema: are you guilty?
13:52 ashimema I tested that before release and it was working for me :(
13:52 ashimema grr
13:52 cait http://paste.koha-community.org/2659
13:50 cait i have other syntax errors, but in jquery libraries
13:49 oleonard Yes. If JavaScript is disabled (or broken?) in the staff client you'll get a blank screen
13:49 cait the anticlickjack code shows an erorr in the console
13:48 cait i remember we once had a security feature causing white pages.... but hm
13:46 cait if I show source code i can see it's there
13:46 cait web installer for updating to 18.11.05 comes up, but it shows a white page
13:46 cait hm i have a strange thing again...
13:29 cait tcohen: thx for the help - fixed my alias and now it skipped elastic and came up green :)
13:22 cait the docs look good - compatibility with openjdk
13:14 cait it woudl be great to get it working for the testing workshop at kohacon
13:14 tcohen for stretch
13:13 tcohen I will submit a patch
13:12 cait it reads stretch all over - just doing another up
13:11 cait should be default
13:11 cait i haven't specified anything there
13:10 cait i think so
13:10 tcohen you use a stretch box, right?
13:10 cait ... which i did
13:10 cait so i might have hardocdedthat
13:10 cait i am using alias
13:09 cait i am checking that, thx
13:09 cait ah
13:09 tcohen do you have KOHA_ELASTICSEARCH set in env?
13:09 cait did I go wrong somewhere?
13:08 cait i tried a up --provision
13:08 cait but it still tries to run the elasticsearch tasks
13:08 cait i tried setting elasticsearch: false in user.yml
13:08 cait tcohen: can you help me quickyl?
13:07 tcohen I'm moving kohadevbox into using openjdk
13:02 cait ah yeah... and exploded
13:02 cait hm it hangs now at release tools repo
12:58 cait I set elasticsearch to false... cross fingers please
12:58 cait looks like it (
12:57 oleonard Oh yeah Oracle messed something up.
12:57 cait thereis a gitlab issue for it... but no answer so far
12:56 cait it can't install java
12:50 cait good morning caroline_catlady :)
12:45 oleonard_ Hi caroline_catlady
12:45 caroline_catlady good morning!
12:38 * cait nods
12:31 ashimema I get the distinct feeling we're all having one of those weeks this week
12:29 cait so trying to fix this
12:29 cait my devbox won't come up... the one at work
12:29 cait i feel you
12:29 cait when i was looking at the wrong encoding for RIS
12:29 oleonard Anyway... I thought it would be a nice easy template cleanup bug for the end of the day yesterday and just like everything else this week it turned into a complicated mess :D
12:29 cait i rembmer seeing other formats in the exports file for opac and staff
12:29 cait could text/html be the default?
12:28 cait hm
12:28 cait sorry, not sure how that works
12:28 oleonard The browser's inspector still reports text/html
12:27 oleonard ...but it doesn't seem to have any effect on the page
12:27 oleonard I've tried updating opac-showreviews.pl with: output_with_http_headers $query, $cookie, $template->output, 'xml';
12:25 cait maybe worth a try?
12:25 cait but is also says text/xml was the de-facto standard
12:25 cait application/rss+xml for mime type is suggested
12:24 cait I think passing the validator might be a good start?
12:24 cait i noticed the issues and we had reports about RSS not working well, but I didn't dive deeply into browser support yet
12:24 cait I am not sure i will be helpful there:(
12:23 oleonard Or is it because we're serving it as text/html instead of, say, text/xml?
12:23 oleonard I know Firefox dropped a lot of native RSS support fairly recently...
12:23 oleonard I've cleaned up the template and run it through a validator and gotten it all good, but it still shows up in Chrome and Firefox badly
12:22 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=22733 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Improve recent reviews RSS
12:22 oleonard cait I'm struggling to determine whether Bug 22733 is a problem with the code or a problem with browsers...
12:21 cait hi Oak and oleonard
12:21 Oak Hi cait
12:21 cait yes
12:19 oleonard cait around?
12:17 Oak \o\
12:17 magnuse \o/
12:17 Oak magnuse
12:17 magnuse Oak
12:15 Oak Hi oleonard !
12:15 oleonard Hi Oak
12:01 oleonard__ Bleah
11:35 wahanui hi oleopard
11:35 calire hi oleonard
11:32 oleonard Hey
11:18 cait ashimema++ thanks a lot
11:17 ashimema done
10:33 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=21312 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Signed Off , Show lockout on Patrons form
10:33 magnuse bug 21312
10:31 marcelr htg
10:29 marcelr ok cait; ashimema: could you qa 21312 ?
10:25 cait maybe ashimema would make more sense, as he worked on the related patches?
10:25 cait not today i am afraid
09:59 marcelr cait: could you please finish qa on 21312 ? thx
08:08 marcelr cait: just qaing
08:06 * ashimema has a meeting.. back in a bit
08:05 cait we are not doing this for legal purposes ;)
08:03 cait I think Alias are ok
08:03 ashimema may of the names in there are just names and it would be much nicer to give attribution to what they did.. and at this point I think it's almost a snide in the face of more recent big contributors that these originals get such a pride of place
08:02 ashimema you read my mind.. I very much want to clean those out in a followup but
08:01 marcelr or could we add additional comments at the end lol ?
08:00 marcelr now we have comments per developer and special thanks and additional thanks
08:00 marcelr not for this report, but could we merge them ?
08:00 marcelr another thing: the special thanks and additional thanks
07:59 marcelr the email shows matted
07:59 marcelr it is an alias
07:58 ashimema like.. Wajasu.. not sure if that's their name or an alias..
07:58 ashimema I was hoping to sit down with Chris to further hash out any corrections we may need names wise.. some of it just needs human knowledge that I didn't have
07:57 marcelr it looks quite good
07:57 marcelr no worries
07:57 marcelr yeah
07:57 ashimema happy to have further input on names and things, but the major point of this bug from my perspecive was to move us to an easier to work with file config file based page so we could automate building the list
07:55 ashimema Anonymous can go.. I used it to group entries I couldn't put a name to
07:55 cait he/she sues that on bugzilla as well
07:54 marcelr wajasu is an alias ?
07:54 marcelr i guess so
07:54 cait company name, the latter
07:54 marcelr doXulting
07:53 marcelr ashimema: Anonymous is a funny entry too
07:48 marcelr i agree
07:48 ashimema well.. as they've used Shantanoo as their email I think I'd go with that
07:48 marcelr but i am asking for additional explanation
07:48 marcelr i am not suggesting to remove the original spelling
07:48 ashimema I get 'santanu'
07:48 cait i am not saying it shoudl not be an option, just saying if someone chooses to have his name in original spelling we should respect that
07:47 * ashimema tries to find a service that will transliterate it for me
07:47 cait yeah but he chose to
07:47 marcelr i prefer entries like Сергій Дубик {Serhij Dubyk}
07:46 marcelr ^^
07:45 cait so without seeing the original, you don't get it
07:45 marcelr yes but i am asking for additional text not replacing it
07:45 cait for example a lot of chinese signs translate to the same sounds, but have totally different meaning
07:45 cait transliteration might have it lose it's meaning
07:45 marcelr assuming that most people cannot read it
07:45 cait maybe not to the person
07:45 marcelr no but it is friendly to translate it
07:44 cait and i am not sure I agree :) jsut because we can't read it doesn't mean it's not vlaid
07:44 cait it looks like it means Shantanu maybe
07:43 marcelr if we put credit on a Koha page, we should know what it says
07:43 cait but i would not change it unnecessarily
07:43 cait I see the about page as a way to honor contributions foremost... we could email and sk
07:43 marcelr hmm i am not sure
07:43 cait but i should be able to pick how my name looks there... shouldn't ?
07:42 cait i know
07:42 marcelr cait: i am talking about 'about page'
07:42 cait we should respect how they want to show up
07:42 ashimema direct from the git logs
07:42 cait i don't think we shoudl ask for transliteration
07:42 ashimema `Author: शंतनू <shantanoo@gmail.com>`
07:42 cait i htink it depends on how people set up their git
07:42 marcelr so i would be inclined to refuse an untransliterated name
07:42 marcelr the serbian name is transliterated
07:41 marcelr it is arabic
07:41 ashimema haha.. yeah.. I have no idea how to do that ;)
07:41 cait i think there are translation rules for most.... if not all. but it might look really crazy
07:40 cait what language is it?
07:40 marcelr ashimema: could you transliterate शंतनू ?
07:40 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=22509 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Add a script to generate MARC fields containing date formatted strings
07:40 ashimema bug 22509
07:40 * cait gives up
07:40 cait [of] 22509
07:40 cait obviously i typoed
07:39 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=22409 major, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, RESOLVED DUPLICATE, Untranslatable strings moved into subscriptions JavaScript file
07:39 cait [off] I've got an email asking for bug 22409 - not sure if someone has time for that?
07:37 ashimema just reading your comment on it now though
07:37 marcelr i will add a follow-up for a few small things; but i think the other report will not make it into 19.05
07:37 ashimema it's 626 bit 662 I was about to refine
07:36 ashimema totally
07:36 marcelr ok it would be frustrating to qa patches that are being changed at the same time
07:35 ashimema 21662 is good to go
07:35 * ashimema misread
07:35 ashimema oh..
07:35 marcelr caroline commented on the other report
07:35 ashimema hold off just a moment then.. I'll change the status
07:35 marcelr QAing
07:35 ashimema I was just about to do her feedback
07:35 ashimema you QAing it or implimenting Carolines feedback
07:35 marcelr just to be sure; if you are still working on it, change status ?
07:34 marcelr ashimema: i am on 21662 now; i hope you are not now
07:32 ashimema but it's a nice simple problem that's easy to solve in allot of different ways and is very simple to benchmark.
07:32 ashimema and you could just go find a library/module to do it for you
07:31 ashimema oh yes.. lots of times
07:31 cait sounds like something that has been solved before
07:29 * ashimema sets devs a fun challenge - given an array full names what's the fastest way to sort them by lastname
07:28 * ashimema would however love to encourage more of such code golfing
07:27 * ashimema staves off the temptation to micro optimise some code
07:15 marcelr hi cait magnuse
07:14 magnuse good morning cait
07:12 cait good morning #koha
06:58 alex_a bonjour
06:04 marcelr hi #koha
05:42 tcohen hi
05:28 fridolin hi
00:19 rangi cool lavamind !