Time  Nick           Message
05:19 fridolin       hi
06:39 marcelr        hi #koha
06:42 reiveune       hello
06:42 wahanui        privet, reiveune
06:56 alex_a         bonjour
07:16 cait           good morning #koha
07:22 magnuse        huh, do we never anonymize the reserves/old_reserves tables?
07:24 magnuse        well, old_reserves is the one that would need it, i guess
07:30 * andreashm    waves
07:30 andreashm      magnuse: if I remember correctly, then no, no anonymization of old_reserves
07:30 cait           magnuse: it only has the borrowernumber... but nope
07:45 ere            cait: hi!
07:46 cait           ere: hi!
07:46 cait           sorry, I didn't finish testing, hope tomake progress today
07:46 ere            cait: So, about your ES problem. Did you check /var/log/elasticsearch/elasticsearch.log? The typical issue with kohadevbox is that it wasn't created with enough memory for ES to start. Did you create it with "KOHA_ELASTICSEARCH=1 vagrant up"?
07:47 cait           it has 4gb, i checked
07:47 ere            cait: okay, then the log should tell you everything..
07:47 cait           but only in the virtualbox management software - i will check the file too
07:47 cait           the log is silent :(
07:47 cait           i can't access the installation now (on wrong computer), so will have to have a look when I get home
07:48 ere            no worries, just something to do when you get there :)
07:49 cait           thx!
07:49 cait           did you see my note on the browse in opac bug?
07:49 cait           I'd really like if you could take a look there
07:49 ere            cait: I'll take a look
07:50 cait           do you need the number?
07:50 ere            cait: bug 14567 I assume
07:50 huginn`        Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14567 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, nick, Signed Off , Browse interface for OPAC
07:50 cait           yep!
07:53 ere            cait: I wonder if it should relate to bug 22592 somehow..
07:53 huginn`        Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=22592 enhancement, P3, ---, ere.maijala, Signed Off , Elasticsearch - Support for index scan
07:55 magnuse        cait: what do you mean by "it only has the borrowernumber"? isn't there a connection to a biblio or item too?
07:56 cait           ere: hard for me to tell, this code is quite old compared to the other
07:56 cait           magnuse: was thinking only about personal data :)
07:57 magnuse        cait: isn't it identical to issues?
07:58 ere            cait: Indeed.. the latter bug is intended to provide at least some form of support for the existing index scan while 14567 has both the UI and the the browse support. I'll test it out to see how it looks.
07:58 cait           magnuse: now you confused me
08:03 magnuse        cait: isn't what books you have reserved personal data in the same way that what books you have borrowed is personal data?
08:03 magnuse        are they not qually sensitive and worthy of anonymization?
08:04 marcelr        magnuse: sounds like you want optional old_reserves
08:04 cait           i think question is when you want to anonymize
08:04 cait           at the moment for some reporting questions the data is valuable
08:05 magnuse        well, it might be nice to have the data for stats, but to me it should be anonymized exactly the same way as old issues
08:05 cait           especially reporting on attributes like homebranch of patron, statistical groups (sort 1 sort2), age, patron category
08:06 cait           hm match circ history to reserve histroy?
08:06 magnuse        ?
08:07 * magnuse      was going to so bug 21545 now, but someone beat me to it :-)
08:07 huginn`        Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=21545 enhancement, P5 - low, 18.11, katrin.fischer, Signed Off , Update German web Installer for 18.11
08:35 cait           the patron pricacy optoins for circ history - have the same for reserve history
08:36 cait           was wondering if that was waht you meant
08:45 magnuse        yeah, that wuould make sense, i think
08:45 magnuse        maybe just use the same privacy setting for reserves too?
09:03 cait           magnuse: not sure, maybe better separate?
09:20 vfernandes     hi #koha
10:19 magnuse        cait: yeah, someone is bound to want one without the other
10:19 magnuse        @quote get 123
10:19 huginn`        magnuse: Quote #123: "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is a mad scheme a library somewhere will be doing it ... except madder" (added by wizzyrea at 09:20 PM, March 30, 2011)
10:19 wahanui        i already had it that way, huginn`.
10:50 eythian        hi
11:04 magnuse        kia ora eythian
11:32 magnuse        cough bug 17489 cough
11:32 huginn`        Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17489 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle, NEW , Allow Koha plugins to have translations
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11:57 oleonard       Hi all
11:57 magnuse        hi oleonard
11:57 wahanui        hi oleopard
12:16 * kidclamp     waves
12:18 ere            hi kidclamp!
12:20 kidclamp       Hi ere!
12:22 ashimema_      bug 12166 , don't support you fancied re-implementing that for 18.11.x series did you oleonard . I'm happy to miss it, but if you wanted to rebase it I'd be happy to push it too..
12:22 huginn`        Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12166 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Improve display of hold charges in patron account
12:22 ashimema_      hi kidclamp
12:24 oleonard       To be honest ashimema_ I don't think so
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12:29 ashimema_      coolios
12:30 ashimema_      it's such a long standing bug that I'm not worried about backporting it either.. just thought I'd give you the option ;)
12:31 ashimema_      80 down, 60 to go.. time for a break and a walk me thinks
12:31 ashimema_      bbiab #koha
12:34 oleonard       ashimema_++
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12:46 oleonard       Hi GeekRuthie!
12:47 * cait         waves at GeekRuthie
12:47 * GeekRuthie   waves frantically at oleonard.
12:48 oleonard       \o
12:49 * ashimema_    waves at GeekRuthie too
12:49 GeekRuthie     :)  Howdy.
12:49 oleonard       Long time no see!
12:49 * ashimema_    dissapears for proper for his walk now.. kids waiting
12:49 ashimema_      lovely to see you GeekRuthie though.. been a long time
12:49 * ashimema_    will read logs on his return
12:50 GeekRuthie     It has been a while, yeah.  Good to see some friendly "faces" still around.
12:51 * oleonard     's will requires that his preserved corpse be propped up in the corner of #koha upon his death
12:52 GeekRuthie     lol
12:53 GeekRuthie     "Where on Earth have you been?" summary, since I'll get asked this about a dozen times:  I worked at cPanel until October, shortly after they got bought out (by the same capital company that owns their largest competitor, natch). +
12:54 oleonard       I saw hints that you'd moved, but didn't know that cPanel was bought out
12:54 cait           oh wow, haven't heard that
12:54 GeekRuthie     Things got strange there in a big damn hurry, so I found another gig.  I've been almost 6 months now at Clearbuilt (http://clearbuilt.com) hacking on business-process automation stuff using Dancer2/DBIx::Class.
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12:54 oleonard       Ugh, bought by an investment group. That's yucky.
12:55 GeekRuthie     I work from home, 100%, we're a totally remote company.  I *missed* that.  Benefits are so-so, but getting better since we're growing now. I'm respected and valued, and that's the best perk ever.
12:59 GeekRuthie     Yeah, management stood up and told The Big Lie ("Nothing will change!"), and it took about six...maybe seven, okay...minutes, to prove that it was a lie.  So I was done.
12:59 oleonard       Why do they even say that... It's never true
13:00 GeekRuthie     Right? And everyone who's been in the industry more than a week knows that.  My exit interview was over 2 hours long.  My boss said, "now's your chance."  I asked him if he wanted the truth, or wanted me to patronize him.
13:00 oleonard       Ha
13:01 GeekRuthie     He said he wanted truth.  I told him if he wanted to know where to find the problems that were causing senior people to walk suddenly, look in a mirror.  He didn't like that much.
13:05 magnuse        GeekRuthie!
13:05 magnuse        lulz
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13:07 GeekRuthie     magnuse!  :)
13:08 magnuse        yay for perl and being respected and valued
13:10 magnuse        ...and now you want to get into hacking Koha as a hobby? ;-)
13:10 GeekRuthie     yup.  I keynoted the last two European Perl Conferences (Amsterdam and Glasgow), and have spoken at the NA Perl Conferences almost every year.  Got two talks accepted for Pittsburgh this summer.
13:10 magnuse        awesome!
13:10 GeekRuthie     Oh, maybe.  I have a little bit more time on my hands than I used to with my commute.
13:12 GeekRuthie     (Ditching the 2 hours of commute time every day has made a world of difference in my life.)
13:12 magnuse        nice
13:13 * magnuse      has been working from home for 10 years now, and can agree totally
13:13 magnuse        the only downside is sometimes you need a bit of time to change gears from work to home life. at least i do
13:14 magnuse        huh: "You have entered a username that already exists. Please choose another one." is that a thing now?
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13:14 magnuse        woohoo \o/
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13:23 magnuse        woohoo \o/
13:27 tcohen         hola #koha
13:27 magnuse        ¡hola tcohen!
13:28 magnuse        anyone else seen this: i try to change the password on /cgi-bin/koha/members/member-password.pl, leave the userid perfectly alone and get the error "You have entered a username that already exists. Please choose another one."
13:31 tcohen         I can take a look
13:31 magnuse        same error if i do try to change the userid
13:31 tcohen         I just noticed putting a single passwords lets it through
13:31 * GeekRuthie   waves to tcohen
13:31 tcohen         version?
13:31 wahanui        i think version is very stable and translation is great
13:37 magnuse        tcohen: never mind, it was cause by the code i was trying to add... *facepalm*
13:42 * magnuse      runs off to make dindins
13:42 eythian        magnuse: what weird timezone are you in then?
13:44 eythian        wahanui: facepalm is <reply>http://buikitty.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/20120202-094434.jpg|a tiny member of the Arecaceae family whose preference for warm, humid environments makes it a perfect choice for cultivation in the human nasal cavity.|<reply> http://media1.giphy.com/media/6OWIl75ibpuFO/giphy.gif
13:44 wahanui        OK, eythian.
13:48 wizzyrea       hi
13:48 wahanui        kia ora, wizzyrea
14:03 cait           alex_a_: around?
14:03 eythian        hizzyrea
14:03 wizzyrea       imma change my nick to that
14:03 wizzyrea       but hizzycray
14:03 wizzyrea       because reasons
14:04 eythian        seems reasonable
14:04 alex_a_        cait, yep!
14:07 oleonard       Hi hizzycray :)
14:08 hizzycray      hi ^.^
14:08 hizzycray      how we doin
14:09 * oleonard     is distracted by thinking about the 10th generation of hizzycray's name which is so far past it's original root that it is incomprehensible
14:09 hizzycray      mission accomplished?
14:09 cait           alex_a_: answered my own question- was wondering why the KOCT plugin didn't detect my wrong branchcode (works with 18.11.04 according to bugzilla, but was testing with .02
14:10 eythian        that's what someone like oleopard would say, of course.
14:11 hizzycray      hahaha
14:13 eythian        I guess OFTC doesn't permit þ in nicknames.
14:14 ye_old_leopard It's discriminatory is what it is
14:19 alex_a_        cait, nice! But question about KOCT are for matts :-)
14:20 alex_a_        koct-matts
14:26 cait           aaah
14:26 cait           coral-koct-matts :)
14:27 matts          :)
14:27 cait           i think you answered me on the bug
14:27 cait           nope, ti was matts, sorry :)
14:52 hizzycray      cait, would you mind having a look at 18308
14:52 hizzycray      I think she's gotten everything
14:52 hizzycray      (the "use asset" bit aside
15:32 cait           i was wondering if we shoudl wait for the other bug - it's pqa now
15:32 cait           itwill be in conflict
15:32 cait           the asset one
15:32 cait           bug 18308
15:32 huginn`        Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18308 normal, P5 - low, ---, hayleymapley, Signed Off , Default value of minPasswordLength should be increased
15:33 hizzycray      will it be in actual conflict or only with the qa tools
15:33 cait           actual
15:33 hizzycray      hm
15:33 cait           what she did there showed up strangely in my git
15:33 cait           because i think a new step was introduced or something?
15:34 cait           so i think it will, you coudl test
15:34 cait           i don't have my box spun up.. still dealing with work email from 2 weeks vacation
15:34 hizzycray      yeah there were two patches, one that added it and one that moved it
15:34 hizzycray      they really ought to be squashed
15:35 reiveune       bye
15:35 hizzycray      bye
15:35 hizzycray      oh I think first time ever I caught them
15:36 hizzycray      but I didn't pick up on anything particularly weird about the series
16:14 cait           hm no oleonard?
16:14 cait           *shocked*
16:14 ye_old_leopard You just don't recognize me
16:16 hizzycray      hehe
16:21 cait           I see :)
16:21 cait           I have a really odd issue in one library i'd like to pick your brain on tomorrow maybe?
16:21 cait           2 libraries... same koha version/code
16:21 cait           both use forced item level holds
16:21 cait           record with one item
16:21 cait           the radio boxes are automatically checked
16:21 cait           it says: no item selected
16:22 cait           completely works in the other db
16:22 cait           and i have run outo f ideas on how to figure it out :( i tried the debugger, but all i can see is that it must think that .confirm... size() == 0 is 0 and not 1 like it should be
16:25 cait           no javasript errors
16:25 oleonard       cait: In the OPAC?
16:25 cait           yep
16:25 cait           but i can't really show you because it's in a production db :(
16:25 cait           but if you have an idea where i could look that would maybe hlep?
16:25 cait           i switched to English - same issue
16:26 cait           hm anothert thing: if you clickont he first checkbox (item level hold) - than the items disappear
16:26 cait           and won't reappear
16:28 cait           http://paste.koha-community.org/2631 < that's the alert where it breaks
16:33 oleonard       The checkbox really should only appear when reserving multiple items
16:33 cait           17.11 :(
16:34 cait           maybe it changed, in the opac you can't reserve multiple
16:34 cait           ah sorry, it's a radio button
16:34 oleonard       Sorry, I mean to say: We should change it so that the checkbox only appears when reserving multiple records
16:34 cait           oleonard: true
16:35 cait           as the alert shows... i assume it didn't find an element with class confirm
16:35 cait           confirmjs that is
16:35 oleonard       I have not been able to reproduce it in master
16:36 cait           as i said... i have a perfectly wroking one and a broken one
16:36 cait           i haven't been able to find any difference
16:36 cait           the forms look exactly the same
16:36 cait           i just thought you might hae an idea or a good tip on what to try
16:37 oleonard       Not off the top of my head, but I'll give it a try in 17.11
16:37 cait           i'll have to try and take another look at this issue tomorrow with fresh eyes - got a little late here already
16:38 cait           thanks a lot
16:39 cait           i have to leave - bbl!
16:39 hizzycray      cait userjs?
16:39 hizzycray      also bye
16:39 cait           nothing stands out
16:39 cait           but i willt ry removing it, you re right
16:40 cait           oleonard: you can stop looking...
16:40 cait           i have no idea why it breaks it, but i will figure that out tomorrow
16:40 cait           sorry for bothering you! hizzycray++ oleonard++
16:40 hizzycray      oh yay!
16:44 cait           It was this line here: $("label, .label, #usertags h1, #usermenu a, .breadcrumb a, .notags").text(function(_,v){
16:44 cait           return v.replace(/Tags/g,'Schlagworte')});
16:44 cait           a renaming operation for tags
16:44 hizzycray      oooo
16:44 cait           not sure yet why exactly, but can figure that out tomorrow .)
16:44 hizzycray      \o/
16:48 cait           thanks all!
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17:27 hizzycray      i am so surprised we don't have a special sub to delete circ rules
17:28 * hizzycray    imagines hizzycray is getting people confused
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17:45 wizzyrea       oh geez I see, we add rules with a Koha:: sub but we delete them from the script. imma leave that one alone
17:47 wizzyrea       hi mtj
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18:34 oleonard       ashimema_: I have a question about the way the ILL requests table is rendered in the staff client. Who would be the best person to ask about that?
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18:47 wizzyrea       oh my, notre dame is burning :(
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18:48 oleonard       :(
19:03 wizzyrea       yea that is terribly sad
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19:19 wizzyrea       argh that's just terrible and very distracting
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19:56 edveal         So sad about the fire in Notre Dame. Thinking of all our French friends.
20:13 rangi          morning
20:22 cait           morning rangi