Time Nick Message 21:18 wizzyrea I really don't not if they're already grouped 21:18 wizzyrea oleonard-away, I don't think we need both in that column 21:14 reiveune bye 18:01 * oleonard is pretty sure he had this problem before... 17:50 oleonard What is going on with C4/SIP/SIPServer.pm that the file is always "busy" ?? 17:03 kidclamp fancy! 17:03 * oleonard bbl 17:03 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=21946 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, nick, Needs Signoff , Group circulation by item type 17:03 oleonard ...re: Bug 21946 17:03 oleonard wizzyrea, kidclamp: Thinking about using some kind of visual indicator like this: https://zivotdesign.com/p/view.php?p=15550021303140 16:55 eythian https://www.theguardian.com/books/2019/apr/10/extraordinary-500-year-old-library-catalogue-reveals-books-lost-to-time-libro-de-los-epitomes 16:42 fridolin oki doki 16:30 oleonard No nothing in particular, was just curious 16:30 fridolin oleonard: you need something in it ? 16:27 oleonard Okay thanks 16:26 fridolin oleonard: yep i plan to release the last one at end of the month 16:26 oleonard fridolin: Did I hear you say something about whether you will be releasing another 17.11.x? 16:26 coyas teach me, please 16:25 coyas who has a tutorial or idea about creating a new section page of koha like the main opan (like cms) 16:25 fridolin oleonard: yep 16:25 oleonard fridolin around? 15:58 wizzyrea i believe that still works yes 15:57 nlegrand I still can extend and add shortcuts like this right? https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/JQuery_Library#Keyboard_shortcuts_to_quickly_change_tab_while_showing_or_editing_MARC_records 15:56 wizzyrea O.o 15:56 oleonard Just spent way too long trying to figure out why patron images weren't showing up in self checkout and then they magically reappear. :| 15:54 nlegrand wizzyrea: great, thanks 15:52 wizzyrea nlegrand, ^ those links are for you 15:51 nlegrand oleonard: thank you! 15:46 wizzyrea they are in the manual :) 15:45 wizzyrea https://koha-community.org/manual/18.11/en/html/circulation.html?highlight=keyboard 15:45 wizzyrea there are a bunch in the advanced cataloguing editor 15:45 wizzyrea https://koha-community.org/manual/18.11/en/html/cataloging.html?highlight=shortcuts#advanced-editor-cataloging 15:44 oleonard nlegrand: The only other one is alt+w for renew 15:43 nlegrand o/ cait 15:43 nlegrand I was wondering, is there documentation about shortkeys in staff interface? I just found about alt+u, alt+r and alt+q in some bugzilla. 15:43 wizzyrea it doesn't solve their problem of two clicks really 15:42 cait i like that one 15:42 cait i sitll think we shold do the split button 15:42 wizzyrea they will get used to it 15:42 wizzyrea but also, things change in systems 15:42 wizzyrea it's just a thought, honestly they're trying to solve a problem for a client which I understand 15:42 nlegrand Bonjour #koha! 15:41 wizzyrea well a different page is kind of say, a preview? 15:40 ashimema_ that said.. I don't have any better ideas :( 15:40 ashimema_ I agree.. it would break convention to do otherwise.. and one rule I regard highly in UX is consistency 15:38 oleonard Usually when we link a title that takes you to a different page for viewing more information, so I think people would expect some variation of that 15:38 wizzyrea i mean, oleonard hasn't said anything about the idea of putting a link on the title 15:37 wizzyrea but which one by default, that's tough 15:37 cait do you want to suggest that to hayley? 15:37 cait yep 15:37 wizzyrea import ought to definitely be a "I intend to do this" explicit action 15:36 wizzyrea i mean it does make a bit of sense to link something on that title 15:35 wahanui jquery is a JavaScript library which is included with Koha and which can be used to apply customizations to Koha by leveraging the opacuserjs and intranetuserjs system preferences. 15:35 cait jquery? 15:35 cait but marc makes more sense i guess 15:35 cait i like card default too 15:35 cait but hwo woudl they switchto marc? 15:34 wizzyrea yeah I don't want a pref 15:34 cait but i like the idea of the split button with import 15:34 cait a pref for that seems a bit much 15:34 wizzyrea for their use case, it'd be card, but I think by default it should be MARC 15:33 wizzyrea *and* link the title to one of the preview modes 15:33 wizzyrea both of the previews on the drop 15:33 wizzyrea yeah, i'd 100% put import on the main 15:33 cait so hard to get it right here for everyone 15:32 cait not preview 15:32 cait but i think ours would favourite import 15:32 cait split gives you one action with one click 15:32 wizzyrea (leaving all of them in the action bar) 15:32 oleonard Isn't that still the same number of clicks? 15:32 wizzyrea we made the title clickable to show one of the preview modes 15:31 wizzyrea what if 15:30 cait reading back 15:30 oleonard Keep in mind that one of the reasons for the menu was to fix the problem where the table was too wide for the individual buttons to all be visible 15:29 wizzyrea even a split button makes it automatically 2 clicks instead of one to do anything 15:29 wizzyrea the librarians are right, two clicks instead of one is annoying there 15:29 wizzyrea I think maybe it was a mistake to put all of the things in an action drop down 15:28 wizzyrea i've been slowly pondering 22579 15:28 wizzyrea oh wait she said food 15:28 wizzyrea cait about 15:27 wizzyrea i can look at those maybe 15:23 * ashimema_ had a spare half hour over lunch today to resurrect them 15:23 ashimema_ especially from oleonard perhaps ;) 15:23 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=21626 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Needs Signoff , Add 'current maintenance team' to the 'Koha team' page 15:23 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=21662 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Needs Signoff , Missing Developers from history 15:23 ashimema_ in other thoughts.. anyone fancy testing some 'pretty'? bug 21662 and bug 21626 might be nice little additions ;).. they're NSO but really they're seeking feedback more than anything else at this point :) 15:22 * ashimema_ likes stable and has been rmaint for it twice in a row now.. I found by .04 my job got easier (and as such it felt like the branch had reached maturity enough that few would find bugs in it) 15:21 ashimema_ my general advice (and it might sound a bit cowardly and cautious) is to run oldstable and track it.. that's usually the best mix of stable + new.. stable itself is great if you're wanting all the new stuff and you're happy to jump in and report and fix bugs when they do inevitably get found 15:19 ashimema_ andreashm 18.11.04 feels reasonably stable to me.. we have a few big university customers currently putting it through it's paces with an aim of upgrading to 18.11.x series for the next academic year.. they tend to run at least oldstable behind 15:19 wizzyrea result 15:19 wizzyrea actually do you think it's odd that "log in to add tags" is only on the first reult? 15:18 coyas thank u 15:18 coyas my issue is done 15:17 wizzyrea or the little artifact, I guess 15:16 wizzyrea i see the little arrow on the detail as well 15:15 ashimema_ seems my irc bouncer is dead today :( 15:15 wizzyrea 1s 14:57 cait ok, food first, then i can file it 14:54 oleonard I see it not quite as broken, but similar 14:53 cait wizzyrea: do you see that too by chance? 14:53 cait ok, has nothing to do with star ratings, it's laways the first record in the result list 14:51 cait [off] I am seeing something odd, only when not logged in and only on the record with star ratings, there shows 'log in to add tags' with a slightly broken icon http://librarygeekgirl.de/pics/Selection_009.png 14:50 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_U18 build #197: FIXED in 29 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U18/197/ 14:50 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed! 14:43 cait I was very impressed 14:42 cait not yet, but I did a demo and nothign exploded 14:42 andreashm or wait, 18.11.04 is the latest? Anyone using that in production? 14:40 andreashm =) 14:40 * cait blames cold brain 14:40 cait eh ashimema for 18.11 14:40 cait wizzyrea: nope - lucas g and jesse m are i think 14:39 andreashm 18.11.03? 14:38 eythian cait: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pseudoephedrin#Handelsnamen 14:38 wizzyrea >.> 14:38 wizzyrea aren't you the rmaint? 14:38 cait always the latest 14:38 andreashm Any thoughts on which 18.11 version is most stable/bug-free? The latest? 14:38 eythian well, it's not aspirin, it's an ingredient in that particular type by that brand 14:37 cait ah no, aspirin doesn't like me 14:37 eythian it's in Asprin Complex 14:37 eythian pseudoephedrine hydrochloride 14:37 cait what is it called here? 14:36 cait huh 14:36 eythian the stuff that actually works 14:36 eythian cold medicine. 14:36 eythian I have to go to Germany or the UK to get it. 14:36 cait ? 14:36 eythian at least you can get pseudoephedrine! 14:35 cait sorry, just being grumpy 14:34 * cait wishes her cold would just move on from crazy sneezy mess :( 14:33 cait :) 14:33 wizzyrea i have a lovely warm fuzzy feeling seeing all those things we've fixed being pushed 14:31 * andreashm waves 14:30 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D8 build #209: STILL UNSTABLE in 37 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D8/209/ 14:29 calire oleonard++ 14:21 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9 build #703: SUCCESS in 27 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9/703/ 14:19 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=22690 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Merging problem with records with many items (ElasticSearch) 14:19 vfernandes bug 22690 14:13 wizzyrea it sounds like a case worth exploring, i'd file a bug 14:06 oleonard I suppose, vfernandes, but I don't know anything about it! 14:05 vfernandes oleonard: should I fill a bug to the merge problem? 14:00 oleonard coyas: The suggestion is: Catalog a single record in Koha. Do a full reindex. Re-import your data. 14:00 coyas koha-rebuild-zebra -v -f library 13:59 coyas i can i do a full reindex 13:59 cait what comman ddi you use? 13:59 coyas i try to rebuild zebra index but the data still there 13:58 cait yes, do a full reindex 13:58 cait the index and the db are 2 separate things 13:58 coyas but on the koha search engine will show me duplicated data 13:58 cait you need to do a full reindex then 13:58 coyas maybe not inside a db 13:57 coyas why? if i delete all data 13:57 oleonard It won't be duplicated if it's not really there 13:57 coyas when i import the data again, it will be duplicated, and i don't understand that, 13:56 cait so why can't you catalog a new record then? 13:56 coyas if i delete the db koha will go down 13:54 coyas *only the data 13:54 coyas no i delete on the data not the db 13:54 cait :) 13:53 oleonard My favorite kind of channel bomb 13:52 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 21263: Pickup library not set correctly when using Default holds policy <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=275dee5f9b9a26b3490bf3646c71c78a2d8647eb> 13:52 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 22444: currencies_manage permission doesn't provide link to manage currencies... <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=761b410f99cbbfff8e353c538fde2b6816408795> 13:52 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 22472: Add tests <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=19b9aacfbae616f7198cd93ebdbd97115d204c5b> 13:52 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 22472: Make column_exists early return if the table does not exist <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=7208ac6196a8619dbb0cca3b6f01480f4c46cab1> 13:52 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 21659: Fix links to basket groups from order receive page <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=3db5feb900d3e6a6400767c771afe78bab0fa880> 13:52 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 19497: Removed title (tooltip) from Edit button in items_search_fields.tt <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=968c888e1579ab28ec165819a011612d8b8f5570> 13:52 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 19670: Change Collation of marc_field to allow mixed case mappings <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a5f3d405f56202beb4426da52f3bf4019f26484b> 13:52 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 19630: Added Status column to Patron Holds table <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=ccc2b4b073113b2c0603437b5a84d4544ede16e4> 13:52 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 22624: Show OPAC description for authorised values in OPAC <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=3323a428eaf662a0ba1a31b2cb56002a7372461a> 13:52 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 22631: Make links on barcode on hold summary page consistent (bug 21070) <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b215c7d55195a4912fb3ab585aba6ee44581f746> 13:52 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 22634: Standardize table creation for stockrotation* tables in kohastructure.sql <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=fbdb2b2be009140be6f9b5b84c765741bc828a3c> 13:52 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 21659: Change link to basket group edit page <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=9cbc5f2aa072ec41a70fd1fa1de4f684fcd695e9> 13:52 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 14358: Changing the module refreshes the page and resets library choice <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=edf173e6ef1fa6de6e07f41c229799733456901a> 13:52 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 13629: SingleBranchMode removes both library and availability search from advance... <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=7acb5394e1f62728c90a1d18e988c23a3e2862d2> 13:52 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 22121: Display 'Price paid' on ILL requests according to CurrencyFormat pref <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=1493c42e7bae5bffab430072587b7aa0527f6fc7> 13:52 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 19630: Removed constant message from Status column <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=08f02c1aa5a6ae1f1ee3b10a086831c1a2dbcb66> 13:52 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 22626: 'Filter paid transactions' broken on Transactions tab in staff <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=9c0197a8d1b1a29f28de4b91e6605ae0a1088235> 13:52 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 22680: OPAC language footer not positioned correctly <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=d8a196cc9decd19a5401907adc64c7dee80a0c55> 13:52 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 12166: DBRev 18.12.00.040 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=5768ea9532e0ee19b77346e2ba13681339b18017> 13:52 cait what are you trying to do? 13:52 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 22626: (RM follow-up) Adjust column after 12166 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a1eba24391b4653f842a1767a48ac8b9f470b8ea> 13:52 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 22680: Compiled CSS <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=d498c2563d76c05a1e819d63d8b56f732c3a7768> 13:52 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 19670: DBRev 18.12.00.041 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=f7869ad48b8f2f86f2b912aad1c3dcbd1a5679c1> 13:52 cait so you removed not only the bibliographic data but you deleted the database? 13:51 coyas how can i do that? i erase all data from mysql 13:51 cait just a record so the index is reset 13:51 cait not instance 13:49 coyas hmm 13:49 coyas the way to stop deleted data appears on koha search is add new biblio(new koha instance)! 13:48 coyas hello 13:45 wizzyrea hmm 13:42 vfernandes 1000 items -> 2000 record reindex 13:41 vfernandes *imagine this with one record with 1000 items 13:40 vfernandes merging two records using ElasticSearch needs an enhancement... every item modification leads to the indexing of the origin record and the destination record... imagine this one record with 1000 items 13:40 kidclamp you can also use marcedit integration to change marc and push updates, it uses the 999c for matching i think 13:40 wizzyrea and you should be all clean 13:40 wizzyrea and reindex the lot 13:40 wizzyrea then you can import whatever you've got, delete your dummy 13:39 wizzyrea for whatever reason it won't always delete the indexes when you delete all of the biblios 13:39 wizzyrea the easiest way to nuke the indexes is to add one new biblio, then reindex 13:38 wizzyrea hi friends 13:30 oleonard https://koha-community.org/manual/18.11/en/html/administration.html?highlight=matching#record-matching-rules 13:30 oleonard If you're exporting from Koha, updating, and re-importing you could use a biblionumber matching rule 13:29 oleonard There are probably some default ones there 13:29 oleonard Administration -> Record matching rules 13:28 oleonard coyas: It will be updated if you have some record-matching rules set up 13:28 coyas who know this? 13:27 coyas export fix some data with marcedit and then import again, if i do this the actual data will be duplicated or updated? 13:24 coyas someone knows how to update data using other exportation without duplicate the data 13:21 magnuse encoding problems will be the death of me... 13:21 magnuse *from the database 13:21 magnuse if you just deleted the data from the data it will be left in the search indexes of zebra 13:20 magnuse try to run koha-rebuild-zebra -f 13:20 kidclamp the biblios/register dir is where the indexes are 13:20 coyas bibliographic data 13:20 kidclamp there should be a rebuild switch that deletes the current indexes, but I don't know off top of my head 13:19 coyas where is that place where koha store data 13:19 coyas i find something that say to rebuild zebra index but 13:19 oleonard coyas: I'm not sure what's going on, but I do know that bibliographic data is stored in more than one place. I wonder if something is left over. 13:17 coyas i erase from mysql and then i cansel the imporrt file on koha tools 13:12 oleonard coyas: How did you remove the data from the database? 13:11 oleonard Was that your message to the Koha list earlier? 13:10 coyas but no success 13:10 coyas I search for this issue on the net 13:08 coyas i remove data from koha database, it is still show that data when i search for it 13:07 oleonard Yes coyas ask a question if you have one 13:07 coyas someone here 13:07 coyas hello 12:52 oleonard cait++ 11:56 cait ashimema++ 11:50 cait kidclamp: not very subtle :) 11:31 * kidclamp grabs his hammer 11:26 oleonard Now that we're all here, let's break some stuff!! 11:19 ashimema morning gang from afar 11:15 magnuse \o/ 11:12 marcelr hi kidclamp 11:12 kidclamp morning 11:02 tcohen morning all 11:01 wahanui hi oleopard 11:01 josef_moravec hi oleonard 11:00 oleonard Hi vfernandes and josef_moravec 10:55 vfernandes what I can do to avoid the error? set tax_order = 1? 10:54 vfernandes the problem is that tax_order (previously called gstrate) is NULL in every aqorder 10:53 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13323 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, CLOSED FIXED, Change the tax rate on receiving 10:53 vfernandes Use of uninitialized value in multiplication (*) at /KEEPS/koha/intranet/cgi-bin/installer/data/mysql/updatedatabase.pl line 13571. Upgrade to 16.06.00.043 done (Bug 13323 - Change the tax rate on receiving) 10:53 vfernandes i'm getting this error updating from an older 3.20 installation 10:50 vfernandes hi #koha 10:34 sab_ wll put up on mailing list 10:34 sab_ thnx 10:34 sab_ ok ok 10:34 oleonard sab_: You never know who is going to be around on IRC, this just turned out to be a bad time 10:33 sab_ but thought if anyone can help on irc 10:33 sab_ i will now then ask 10:33 sab_ i did nt ask 10:33 oleonard Have you tried asking on the mailing list? 10:32 sab_ i searched a lot on irc log then mailing list archive but very little information is found 10:32 sab_ i am surprised how all other libraries handling this part 10:32 sab_ i tried that as well 10:32 sab_ splitting file has limitation of how many lines 10:30 oleonard sab_: I don't know much about inventory, but I'm curious why splitting the file isn't a possibility 10:30 sab_ sorry 10:30 sab_ oh 10:30 sab_ my browser throws error and no report 10:29 oleonard sab_: Ignore wahanui, he's a bot 10:29 sab_ but how to exactly handle 10:29 wahanui i already had it that way, sab_. 10:29 sab_ i am struggling to get inventory report. is there a way to run command through terminal our size of total barcodes is more than 1 lakh even if we split this file how will report be generated 10:07 * oleonard waves 08:55 sab_ i am struggling to get inventory report. is there a way to run command through terminal our size of total barcodes is more than 1 lakh even if we split this file how will report be generated 08:37 ashimema feels like perhaps they're looking at another Koha 08:36 ashimema :confused: 08:36 cait but to my knowledge there is neither 08:36 cait i thought maybe invoices or accounts 08:33 ashimema lol 08:33 ashimema Billing..what's Billing 08:28 cait we don't have any billing api in 18.05 as far as i cantell 08:27 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=22682 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Billing - Billing Rest API is not working as expected 08:27 cait bug 22682 - spam? 08:27 cait it will be done before own appears 08:26 ashimema plus.. it'll make own happy 08:26 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18584 trivial, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Signed Off , Our legacy code contains trailing-spaces 08:26 ashimema one to lighten your day.. bug 18584 08:26 ashimema good morning cait 08:20 cait morning #koha 07:09 ashimema go.... 07:09 ashimema set 07:09 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18584 trivial, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Signed Off , Our legacy code contains trailing-spaces 07:09 ashimema on your marks 07:09 ashimema bug 18584 - QA sprint.. 06:43 wahanui que tal, alex_a 06:43 alex_a bonjour 06:43 wahanui hola, reiveune 06:43 reiveune hello 06:21 marcelr hi #koha 06:07 fridolin hi 05:12 gtb where is the best place to describe the issue to get support please? 05:12 gtb i am stuck with a new install of koha and books wont check in due to a data issue 05:10 wahanui kia ora, gtb 05:10 gtb hi 04:56 librartech can you help check please 04:56 librartech the message is "There are no items that can be place on Hold " 04:56 librartech i can make a place hold on koha 04:55 librartech any one can help 04:55 librartech hi