Time Nick Message 21:05 oleonard See y'all in 38 1/2 hours 21:04 cait ashimema++ 21:04 cait bye ashimema 21:04 ashimema byeee 21:04 ashimema have a good night/day #koha 21:03 * ashimema turns off computer 21:03 oleonard ashimema++ 21:03 oleonard kidclamp++ 21:03 ashimema thanks 21:03 oleonard Thanks everyone! 21:03 ashimema kidclamp++ 21:03 kidclamp we did it 21:03 ashimema sorry.. I was looking at my diary 21:03 huginn` Log: http://meetings.koha-community.org/2019/development_irc_meeting_27_march_2019.2019-03-27-20.08.log.html 21:03 huginn` Minutes (text): http://meetings.koha-community.org/2019/development_irc_meeting_27_march_2019.2019-03-27-20.08.txt 21:03 huginn` Minutes: http://meetings.koha-community.org/2019/development_irc_meeting_27_march_2019.2019-03-27-20.08.html 21:03 huginn` Meeting ended Wed Mar 27 21:03:12 2019 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) 21:03 kidclamp #endmeeting 21:03 ashimema cool 21:02 kidclamp #info Next meeting: 10 April 2019, 14 UTC 21:02 kidclamp ah, you weere right, 14 is th eusual 21:01 kidclamp keep getting distracted 21:01 kidclamp sprry 21:01 kidclamp then we aren't up too early, and not caffeinated 21:01 kidclamp 13 is probably better 21:01 cait I'll try to too 21:01 * oleonard will work with whatever 21:00 cait on vacation - not sure what will work yet 21:00 ashimema anyone? 20:59 ashimema i can make 11 work here 20:58 ashimema 11 may be too early.. may be in company meetings at that time for me.... but what works well for you kidclamp? 20:57 ashimema 13 is good for me 20:57 * ashimema is just trying to find a prior meeting 20:57 kidclamp or is it 13? 20:56 kidclamp Do we usually do 11 UTC? 20:56 ashimema so thats 10th april 2pm utc? 20:54 kidclamp clamp like 20:54 oleonard Yes 20:54 kidclamp sound good 20:54 ashimema stick to two weeks and earlier time next meeting? 20:53 ashimema #topic Next meeting 20:53 kidclamp i got nada 20:51 ashimema nothing to report here I think 20:51 ashimema #topic Review of coding guidelines 20:48 kidclamp sorry, on a shib call 20:48 ashimema moving on.. anyone hav any other topics? 20:45 ashimema anywho.. when people have a moment it would be great to get some opinions both on the idea and the implimentation 20:45 cait I would have expected them to not allow nul but only valid 20:44 ashimema its a matter of opinion.. what's better.. allowing 'nulls' to creep in or allows non-existant branchcodes and categorycodes to creep in. 20:44 ashimema in the bug I remove the DEFAULT and I set the fields to allowing NULL 20:43 ashimema they were a bit wierd.. in that they were "DEFAULT ''" at the field level but the foreign key constraint meant that the default couldn't actually ever be satisfied 20:43 cait I have to take a closer look, but not friends with the idea so far 20:42 ashimema the bug clarifies them 20:42 ashimema that code submitted against bug 22577 serves as a proof of concept for that.. I'd be interested in feedback 20:42 cait but what about the constraints on categorycode and branchcode? 20:41 ashimema one of the options I thought about was introducing default borrowers that get loaded at install time as part fo the system.. this would allow us to have stricter constraints and miantain data integrity more easily 20:40 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=22008 enhancement, P5 - low, 19.05, martin.renvoize, Pushed to Master , accountlines.manager_id is missing a foreign key constraint 20:40 ashimema After making a bit of mess with bug 22008 by introducing foreign key constraints on manager_id in accountlines and missing somehow that cronscripts all set a user_id of a non-existent user at borrowernumber 0 20:39 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=22577 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, In Discussion , Cronjobs (and other scripts) should be attributed to a 'real' user 20:39 ashimema #topic bug 22577 - Adding 'system borrowers' proof of concept 20:38 ashimema #topic General development discussion 20:38 cait yep 20:37 ashimema shall we move on 20:37 cait [off] we merged the databases with another like us - GBV - so tons of work right now 20:37 ashimema :) 20:36 cait [off] BSZ went live with our new union catalog on Monday - 180 million holdings 20:36 * oleonard also apologizes for having a job and a life 20:35 cait and sorry for not being about much this month, things have been crazy with work and life in general 20:34 ashimema team++ 20:34 ashimema qa++ 20:34 cait that's all from me - lots of work all over, as always 20:34 cait hm forgot the info ;) 20:34 cait # there are also quite a few bigger features still in the queue or close to getting there, please do QA :) 20:34 ashimema I'm aware it needs tests still 20:33 * ashimema is on the case for the blocker, but it'll need QA eyes 20:33 cait #info Also the blockers (1), criticals (1) and majors (18) 20:32 cait #info bug 22359 (cash return) and bugs depending on bug 17047 (mana) need some more work before release 20:32 cait there are quite a lot of serious bugs too - 1 blocker 1 critical 18 major 20:31 ashimema ok.. I'll see if I can get to some of the mana stuff soon.. I agree we need it to be a more polished feature before full release 20:31 cait stop making messes people :) 20:31 * ashimema has also been cleaning up a self made mess 20:31 cait I think as those 2 will be highlights in the new release we need to make sure they work well 20:30 * oleonard has been meaning to look at what Bug 22359 is about but has been too busy cleaning up his messes 20:30 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17047 new feature, P5 - low, ---, alex.arnaud, RESOLVED FIXED, Mana Knowledge Base : share data 20:30 cait dependencyies on bug 17047 20:30 ashimema is there a tree 20:30 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=22359 enhancement, P5 - low, 19.05, koha-bugs, NEW , Improve usability of 'change calculation' (bug 11373) 20:30 cait bug 22359 20:29 cait i should find the bugs sec 20:29 cait to institutional 20:29 cait for example we still ask for surname, last name to sign up... which I think we should change 20:28 cait also there are a few mana bugs I'd like to get people on 20:28 cait I'd like to see some usability work on the cash return feature done 20:28 cait #info thx to the QA team for their great work, keep going! 20:27 cait #info bugs in the queue have been increasing again, we will try to get it down again 20:27 cait probably be able to spend more time the next 2 weeks 20:27 cait I am trying to catch up on things 20:27 cait no, just my mind is elsewhere a bit 20:26 kidclamp heh 20:26 ashimema did we loose cait? 20:26 cait oops 20:25 ashimema josef_moravec++ #he's been a qa machine this month! 20:24 wahanui well, cait is really good at running into things 20:24 kidclamp cait? 20:24 kidclamp #topic Updates from the QA Team 20:24 ashimema shall we move on? 20:23 ashimema did I imagine that fridolin anounced that this is the penultimate 17.11 he's going to do? 20:22 ashimema #info 18.05.x and 17.11.x series both had release on Monday this week too. 20:22 cait not going to #info :) 20:22 cait oh sorry, late 20:21 ashimema lukeG was about minutes ago 20:21 ashimema #info 18.11.04 contains the acq rounding bug.. that's probably the most significant bug to get in for 18.11.x series to date. 20:20 kidclamp Jessem or lukeg? 20:20 kidclamp huzzah! 20:20 ashimema all went smoothly from my perspective, we're all getting into the swing of it now :) 20:19 ashimema #info Releases went out on Monday 20:19 kidclamp that's you ashi 20:19 kidclamp #topic Updates from the Release Maintainers 20:19 ashimema #info Nick will be sending out proposed freeze dates soon 20:18 ashimema coolios 20:18 kidclamp will send freeze dates etc shortly 20:18 kidclamp we got a lot of big stuff in, so happy right now 20:18 kidclamp starting to look more at current bugs to polish things up 20:17 kidclamp trying to keep up with the queue, will push some today ro tomorrow 20:17 ashimema thats you mate ;) 20:16 kidclamp #topic Update from the Release manager (19.05) 20:16 ashimema funny, I was talking to someone about what the documentation workflows were only a couple of days ago 20:15 kidclamp any one else? 20:15 ashimema I missed that 20:15 ashimema oh, awesome 20:15 kidclamp #info new 'needs additional work' link on the dashboard 20:15 ashimema coolios.. I can pick his brains later 20:15 kidclamp this is helpful when we need release notes or have followups on pushed bugs 20:15 kidclamp rangi added a 'Needs additional work' link on the dashboard 20:14 kidclamp #topic Announcements 20:14 ashimema rangi may well have some thoughts on the null manager_id / system users ideas 20:14 kidclamp let's do a quick one for the ages and then I will followup tomorrow 20:14 * ashimema is happy either way 20:13 kidclamp or we can do super short meeting :-) 20:13 kidclamp I need to choose and send freeze dates, so can do that with an emial for any objections to 20082 followup (using null instead of 0 for manager_id for cron generated fines 20:12 ashimema I know Josef sent his apologies 20:12 ashimema mm, it does feel quiet this evening 20:11 kidclamp that's 4 :-) 20:11 rangi but yeah, not many of us 20:11 rangi #info Chris Cormack 20:11 kidclamp not that I don't like this company 20:11 kidclamp maybe not enough to meet? 20:10 ashimema rangi was about a little while ago too 20:10 ashimema cait 20:10 ashimema all the trouble makers are here then I see ;) 20:09 oleonard #info Owen Leonard, Athens County Public Libraries, Ohio, USA 20:08 ashimema #info Martin Renvoize, PTFS Europe 20:08 huginn` Current chairs: ashimema kidclamp 20:08 kidclamp #chair ashimema 20:08 kidclamp #info Nick Clemens. ByWater Solutions 20:08 kidclamp #topic Introductions 20:08 huginn` The meeting name has been set to 'development_irc_meeting_27_march_2019' 20:08 huginn` Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 20:08 huginn` Meeting started Wed Mar 27 20:08:18 2019 UTC. The chair is kidclamp. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 20:08 kidclamp #startmeeting Development IRC meeting 27 March 2019 20:08 ashimema no worries.. I just didn't want to be rude and start it without you 20:06 kidclamp one sec 20:06 kidclamp yes 20:06 ashimema kidclamp about ? 20:04 oleonard I thought so 20:04 ashimema or have I got my timezones wrong 20:04 ashimema meeting? 20:04 ashimema but if they can come up with sane use case it could well get through.. 20:03 ashimema hmm, well I don't think it was intended to allow html in there.. not even sure what sort of character count the field has? 19:59 lukeG hi oleonard :) 19:59 lukeG ashimema not me in particular, but someone wants to put HTML in there. im wondering if writing a quick patch to change html to raw in that particular case would fly with communtiy. i suspect it was taken out on purpose 19:58 kathryn hehe, hi oleonard and all :) 19:58 oleonard Yup :) 19:58 kathryn I wonder if eythian did that... 19:57 wahanui hi oleopard 19:57 rangi hi oleonard 19:57 oleonard Hi again 19:56 ashimema but that fact you've asked makes me wonder if that's what you're attempting to do.. add some code in there? 19:55 ashimema lukeG ^ 19:55 ashimema perhaps we think we can trust those people with the rights to create reports not to? 19:55 ashimema erm.. I would presume it's to prevent one from adding XXS code into the notes field ;) 19:43 lukeG *why 19:41 lukeG is there a good reason my the notes field on guided_reports.pl uses a html filter and not a raw filter? 19:29 rangi hi kidclamp and ashimema 19:28 kidclamp rangi++ 19:21 wahanui hola, ashimema 19:21 ashimema hola 19:04 rangi hi paul_p 19:04 rangi morning 17:21 oleonard Bye all 16:47 reiveune bye 15:57 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=22399 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, REOPENED , Improve responsive behavior of the basic marc editor 15:57 oleonard kidclamp: I've made progress by discovering even more things Bug 22399 broke, so I'd say go ahead and revert 15:44 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D8 build #200: FIXED in 36 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D8/200/ 15:44 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed! 15:43 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_U18 build #187: FIXED in 32 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U18/187/ 15:43 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed! 15:37 ashimema :) 15:37 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9 build #694: FIXED in 27 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9/694/ 15:37 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed! 15:22 oleonard Am I correct in remembering that ElasticSearch is supposed to improve the reliability of the "show only available" filter on search results? 15:12 ashimema right now I'm still up to my 'insert local explitive here' in accounts still though.. so won't get to that any time soon :( 15:11 ashimema lol 15:11 oleonard Y'all should see these cool wings I've made for myself out of wax for some reason. 15:11 ashimema hehe 15:10 oleonard Doesn't seem like it would be too hard to reproduce (he said so confidently) 15:10 ashimema it would be awesome to do it.. I don't remember it being an expecially big piece of work either 15:10 ashimema hehe 15:10 ashimema well.. the branch I created I think has long since gone I'm afraid 15:10 oleonard I've obviously got bigger fish to fry today [English idiom alert] 15:10 ashimema cool 15:09 ashimema I hadn't yet no 15:09 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=22584 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Add YAML support for Codemirror 15:09 oleonard I was thinking about that in relation to Bug 22584 15:08 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=21582 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Use CodeMirror for *UserJS & *UserCSS 15:08 oleonard ashimema did you see that I poked you on Bug 21582? 15:07 oleonard https://media.giphy.com/media/VMgcrwq9imGHu/giphy.gif 15:06 * cait misses dpavlin 15:06 ashimema that's a name I've not seen for ages 15:06 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 21622: (RM follow-up) adjust for changes from bug 21282 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=18f9c3eb514f5733c55d92b16bd0f38d29161290> 15:06 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 22008: (follow-up) Additional fix for bad test <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=2be687c419298478c1937f37ce0654ea7bc8bc9e> 15:06 ashimema wow 15:05 cait true :) 15:05 oleonard Any anyway, if that's what it take to trigger the rare appearance of dpavlin it's not all bad 15:04 oleonard It's fair for my ambition to bite me once in a while 15:04 ashimema in better news.. my branch all the tests pass 15:03 cait it happens, let's learn from it :) 15:03 * ashimema pats oleonard on the back 15:03 ashimema yeay.. it's not just me breaking everything at the moment then :) 15:03 kidclamp it's like a cubist smiley 15:02 kidclamp got shifted there 15:02 kidclamp :-) 15:02 kidclamp kk, let me know "=_ 15:02 oleonard Sure. I'll see how far I can get today 15:01 kidclamp do you want me to wait to see if you can fix things? 15:00 talljoy morning 15:00 oleonard :( 14:59 kidclamp can do oleonard 14:55 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=22399 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, REOPENED , Improve responsive behavior of the basic marc editor 14:55 oleonard kidclamp: Bug 22399 may need to be reverted... Already two bugs stemming from it... 14:44 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=22596 normal, P5 - low, ---, fridolin.somers, Needs Signoff , html TT filter is breaking items search with custom field 14:44 fridolin Bug 22596 small and easy 13:54 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D8 build #199: STILL UNSTABLE in 36 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D8/199/ 13:47 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_U18 build #186: STILL UNSTABLE in 32 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U18/186/ 13:47 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9 build #693: STILL UNSTABLE in 28 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9/693/ 13:16 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 22008: (follow-up) Additional test fix and fix typo <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=918328171b66c9633c6bf3c5debb194cc63f1d9d> 13:14 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D8 build #198: STILL UNSTABLE in 36 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D8/198/ 13:12 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_U18 build #185: STILL UNSTABLE in 32 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U18/185/ 13:06 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9 build #692: STILL UNSTABLE in 27 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9/692/ 13:00 oleonard barton++ # https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Permalinks 12:56 * oleonard checks under his secret office bed 12:56 oleonard tcohen around? 12:51 oleonard That'd be a trick 12:50 * kidclamp stuffs himself into a locker 12:49 oleonard For the last time kidclamp I don't have a bed in my office at work. Stop bullying me. 12:49 kidclamp he doesn't sleep oleonard, he is under your bed, watching for you 12:48 oleonard ashimema around? 12:36 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 22008: Fix failing tests <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=c31a50d06a854a15e20abd65d2975033eba2cf0c> 12:30 oleonard (excuse me!) 12:30 oleonard y 12:30 wahanui hi oleopard 12:30 calire hi oleonard 12:30 oleonard Hi caroline1 and calire 11:47 wahanui hi oleopard 11:47 kidclamp Hi oleonard 11:47 oleonard Hi kidclamp 11:25 oleonard Hi #koha 10:15 * ashimema is way behind this month on QA.. was hoping to keep a 'a QA a day' 10:13 ashimema man our database is "fun" 10:13 cait ashimema: thx for critical qa yesterday too 10:13 ashimema I'm currently working my way through alternatives for fixing the mess I've created with setting foreign keys for maanger_id 10:13 cait josef_moravec++ ashimema++ :) 10:13 ashimema awesome :) 10:13 josef_moravec ashimema: testing some account related patches ;) 10:12 ashimema hi josef 10:10 cait hi josef_moravec :) 10:00 josef_moravec hello ashimema, cait 09:17 ashimema :) 09:15 cait will let you know :) 09:15 cait it looks good, but we haven't tasted it yet 09:09 ashimema how did the cake turn out? 09:08 ashimema morning cait 08:04 cait good morning #koha 08:03 alex_a bonjour 07:38 reiveune hello 07:15 wahanui bidet, fridolin 07:15 fridolin hi 00:57 koha-jenkins Project Koha_18.05_D9 build #244: SUCCESS in 40 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_18.05_D9/244/ 00:33 koha-jenkins Project Koha_18.05_D8 build #249: SUCCESS in 19 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_18.05_D8/249/ 00:30 koha-jenkins Project Koha_18.05_U18 build #244: SUCCESS in 27 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_18.05_U18/244/ 00:16 koha-jenkins Project Koha_18.05_D9 build #243: SUCCESS in 42 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_18.05_D9/243/ 00:13 koha-jenkins Project Koha_18.05_D8 build #248: SUCCESS in 20 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_18.05_D8/248/ 00:03 koha-jenkins Project Koha_18.05_U18 build #243: SUCCESS in 30 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_18.05_U18/243/