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22:15 talljoy        back
21:28 talljoy        bbiab
19:51 reiveune       bye
19:41 * talljoy      roots for wizzyrea to keep going!
19:33 huginn`        magnuse: The operation succeeded.
19:33 magnuse        @later tell wizzyrea thanks :-) but i have my sights set on you in the stats ;-)
19:19 * ashimema     wonders for QA.. should we be maintaining the list of sysprefs that are sent to HEA in C4::UsageStats.pm ?
18:07 wizzyrea       if you have time/want to fix it properly
18:07 wizzyrea       you can feel free to ignore it
18:07 wizzyrea       anyway theres an interim patch to make it work
18:07 wizzyrea       musta
18:04 ashimema       I didn't think anything of it at the time.. but I bet it's a circular dependencies thing introduced by that.
18:03 ashimema       Ah, I bet I know what caused it.. Kyle rearranged a bunch of use statements in the overdues change bug
17:55 wizzyrea       nw
17:55 kidclamp       be back a bit later
17:55 wizzyrea       done
17:52 kidclamp       gopher it!
17:52 wizzyrea       i've got it sitting here want me to make a patch and attach it
17:51 wizzyrea       yep that does it kidclamp
17:51 ashimema       Brb.. kids club run
17:50 kidclamp       that seems the simple fix, it just can't find it rightnow
17:50 ashimema       Ok.. I'll divert my attentions this evening to making it work as is again.. really confused it's broken entirely... Sorry if that was me
17:50 kidclamp       I think we could just make it C4::Accounts::maninvoice()
17:49 ashimema       Hang on... It shouldn't be entirely broken.. I left it in a working state.. it should just be warning that it's a bad thing
17:49 wizzyrea       well it explodes spectacularly at the moment ^.^
17:49 ashimema       My delving in MaxFine was actually related to this earlier 😉
17:48 ashimema       Issue being.. add_debit uses an enum of accounttypes (as does add_credit).. which is good... But manual invoice basically let's your add anything in as a type.. even if it doesn't fit within the dB field
17:47 * ashimema     is working hard to get hat foundation work done
17:47 ashimema       It's in my pile.. it was split out from the rest of the deprecation bug as there's a bunch of foundation work to do before it can be switched out...
17:46 ashimema       There's already a bug for that one
17:45 wizzyrea       that's an icky bug. oh well we'll sort it
17:43 wizzyrea       I was just looking at that one
17:43 huginn`        Bug 22533: normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , maninvoice.pl is using deprecated maininvoice() method
17:43 kidclamp       https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=22533
17:43 * kidclamp     was wondering if it was just me
17:40 wizzyrea       kidclamp ^
17:39 wizzyrea       Undefined subroutine &CGI::Compile::ROOT::home_vagrant_kohaclone_members_maninvoice_2epl::manualinvoice called at /home/vagrant/kohaclone/members/maninvoice.pl line 81
17:37 wizzyrea       hm, it seems like creating manual fines is broken in master
16:24 wizzyrea       that is strange
16:18 Ralphius       it's so strange, because we have in the 17.11 we don't have this problem, I only see this diference: In the information Date Granularity	YYYY-MM-DD hh:mm:ss    and the error format YYYY-MM-DDThh:mm:ssZ I see the 'T' in the midle of DD and mm .. but I don't see where I change that
16:15 wizzyrea       and they don't (or, not that I've seen anyway) have this problem
16:14 wizzyrea       that said, I know lots of places harvesting with OAI from Koha
16:14 wizzyrea       bug
16:14 wizzyrea       er
16:14 wizzyrea       and if it's wrong, that's probably a big
16:14 wizzyrea       and I'm not sure it's configurable
16:14 wizzyrea       I'm a little surprised it's freaking out about the timestamp format
16:14 wizzyrea       Ralphius, all of the config is in the Administration -> OAI sets BUT
16:09 tallestjoy     great meme wizzyrea
16:02 Ralphius       FAIL Bad earliestDatestamp: The earliestDatestamp in the identify response (2015-09-28 20:58:23) does not have the correct format for the time part of the UTCdatetime. The overall format must be YYYY-MM-DDThh:mm:ssZ.
16:02 Ralphius       In the https://www.openarchives.org/Register/ValidateSite the error :
16:02 ashimema       not my area of expertise I'm afraid Ralphius..
16:01 Ralphius       I try harvesting my koha but I don't know why I can't do...
15:59 Ralphius       anyperson know the config to harvesting in the oai ?
15:58 ashimema       lol
15:57 Ralphius       Hi there
15:52 wizzyrea       https://media.makeameme.org/created/you-get-a-5c9110.jpg
15:50 wizzyrea       hehehehehe
15:49 * tallestjoy   runs away
15:49 tallestjoy     how about just adding 10 more sys prefs to make it work that way?
15:42 wizzyrea       teehee
15:29 oleonard       [off] Oh cool I love rainbows! (ᅌᴗᅌ✿)
15:24 wizzyrea       [off] it's gotta be EVERY colour but there's no time to paint it!
15:23 wizzyrea       [off] I have just written in my notes "this is a rainbow coloured bikeshed built by people who don't have time to build bikesheds."
15:18 wizzyrea       cys :)
15:18 ashimema       brb
15:18 * ashimema     goes on school run
15:18 ashimema       he's a customer of ours
15:18 ashimema       must admit, I find those rather hard to follow..
15:17 ashimema       ah.. that's a "Ray" ticket is it
15:16 wizzyrea       it kinda looks like what's there will be an improvement
15:16 wizzyrea       thanks ashimema
15:16 wizzyrea       because I'm unsure if someone's gonna do something and this solution is bad, or if we should just test what's there
15:15 huginn`        Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19014 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Patrons should not get a on_reserve notification if the due date is far into the future
15:15 wizzyrea       bug 19014
15:15 ashimema       I think she's at conferences this week wizzyrea
15:15 wizzyrea       are any of the people who have opinions but no time about to talk about 19014
15:15 wizzyrea       ok hm.
15:15 wizzyrea       that's a negative
15:14 wizzyrea       cait about?
15:14 wizzyrea       it's ok :)
15:14 eythian        ah cool
15:14 * eythian      is unsure of timelines
15:14 wizzyrea       yeah just that
15:14 eythian_       or is this just joining bywater
15:13 eythian_       wizzyrea: oh, whatcha doing now?
15:12 wizzyrea       hi lukeG
15:00 * ashimema     would like to join those ranks some day
15:00 wizzyrea       (don't get me wrong I loved, LOVED, my old job. But this isn't bad.)
15:00 wizzyrea       I like that
15:00 wizzyrea       it's nice because that's what I get to do now is just community stuff
14:59 wizzyrea       ^.^
14:59 ashimema       and SO's..  :)
14:59 ashimema       'tis nice having you in an overlapping timezone now wizzyrea.. good to have you around for banter
14:59 * ashimema     tries
14:58 wizzyrea       oh you are funny
14:58 ashimema       haha
14:58 * ashimema     goes to read the tests.. those have got to be definative.. right?
14:58 wizzyrea       definitely not
14:58 ashimema       at least it's not just me
14:58 wizzyrea       :)
14:58 * ashimema     giggles quietly
14:58 ashimema       lots of "wtf is this" type comments both in commits and in code comments!
14:57 wizzyrea       yeah
14:57 ashimema       looks like over the years it's had allot of developers asking the same questions
14:53 wizzyrea       bummer
14:53 wizzyrea       oh he's not here
14:53 wizzyrea       khall might be able to help ashimema
14:53 wizzyrea       hm no mtompsett
14:51 oleonard       Sorry ashimema, not me!
14:48 ashimema       anyone?
14:46 * ashimema     is trying to understand the crazy query within C4::Overdues->UpdateFine
14:45 ashimema       right?
14:45 ashimema       and.. it's only 'outstanding' values that add into it.. it's not a 'MaxFine' over a period of time?
14:43 ashimema       not 'M' (manual invoices)
14:43 ashimema       MaxFine should apply only to overdue fines right?
14:27 wizzyrea       magnuse, you are doing good work for the libraries of norway/sweden, I think technically you've done more than me.
14:26 wizzyrea       :)
14:26 wizzyrea       hm
14:14 * magnuse      fears he will never be able to catch up with wizzyrea in the number-of-commits stats
14:14 * magnuse      too
14:12 oleonard       I am pleased to ready ByWater's announcement about your new job!
14:12 wizzyrea       how we doin
14:12 wahanui        hi oleopard
14:12 wizzyrea       hi oleonard
14:10 oleonard       Hi wizzyrea
14:05 josef_moravec  oleonard: thanks!
14:05 huginn`        Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=22318 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Signed Off , Extend Koha news feature to include other content areas
14:05 oleonard       Followup posted on Bug 22318. Thanks for testing, josef_moravec!
14:03 huginn`        Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20104 trivial, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, CLOSED INVALID, Update minimum version of Perl to 5.20 because of caller()
14:03 ashimema       bug 20104
14:02 ashimema       Suse
14:02 magnuse        because of some other linux, with older perl?
14:01 ashimema       looks like we did up it to 5.20 beggining of last year.. but David Cook got it reverted
14:00 ashimema       ack
13:36 magnuse        ashimema: sounds reasonable to require at least the perl that comes with the oldest version of debian we support
13:35 magnuse        linked to the wrong koha, yes
13:35 oleonard       Oh I didn't even try the links... was it bad? (I'll bet it was bad)
13:34 magnuse        yup, good to see they fixed the koha links :-)
13:24 oleonard       Did y'all read the interview with rangi? https://openinterview.org/2019/03/18/chris-cormack-koha-users-and-vendors-are-growing-superfast-but-not-its-development-community/
13:20 ashimema       Which gives us the pair functions
13:19 ashimema       Which would magically bump our List::Until version to 1.38
13:18 ashimema       We should really up it to that..
13:18 ashimema       At least for Debian 8
13:17 ashimema       In reality we can expect 5.20.2
13:12 ashimema       Ah yes.. for a long time I've been wanting to up it to be at least inline with our minimum debain version packages perl
13:11 magnuse        ashimema: https://koha-community.org/koha-18-11-release/ also says "Perl 5.10 is required"
13:07 magnuse        ashimema: http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=blob;f=Makefile.PL;h=ce323ef163a50db1162f3ef08354e885e8f07628;hb=HEAD says: die "perl 5.10 or later required" unless ($] >= 5.010000);
13:07 oleonard       ^^YES
13:07 magnuse        <3 bywater <3 wizzyrea
13:06 ashimema       not only can i not remember it... but i cant remember how to find out?
13:05 ashimema       whats koha's minimum perl version these days..
13:05 ashimema       me
13:02 magnuse        ashimema: bugs happen :-)
13:02 ashimema       thanks magnuse
13:02 * ashimema     should just go back to bed today
13:00 magnuse        oh and "due on the 18th"? ;-)
13:00 ashimema       balls
12:59 magnuse        lulz ashimema, you wrote "Just a quick notification that we're not in string freeze for the maintenance branches" - i'm guessing that should be "now in string freeze"?
12:46 ashimema       grr
12:46 ashimema       those same tests just passed for me locally
12:46 ashimema       😕
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12:13 magnuse        tallerjoy++ that is akshuly something i have been thinking of for a while too. never found a good way to do it, though
11:57 huginn`        Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=22535 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Use Link Shortcuts when creating reports
11:57 oleonard       tallerjoy++ # Bug 22535
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11:49 oleonard       Hi #koha
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11:09 ashimema       inbox zero !!! :)
11:09 ashimema       tag.. you're it kidclamp
11:05 ashimema       poop
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10:45 alex_a_        +----------------------+------------------------+-----------+---------------+-------------+------------+
10:45 alex_a_        |                    6 | sms                    |         0 | circulation   | CHECKOUT    |            |
10:45 alex_a_        |                    6 | email                  |         0 | circulation   | CHECKOUT    |            |
10:45 alex_a_        |                    5 | sms                    |         0 | circulation   | CHECKIN     |            |
10:45 alex_a_        |                    5 | email                  |         0 | circulation   | CHECKIN     |            |
10:45 alex_a_        |                    4 | phone                  |         0 | reserves      | HOLD        |            |
10:45 alex_a_        |                    4 | email                  |         0 | reserves      | HOLD        |            |
10:45 alex_a_        +----------------------+------------------------+-----------+---------------+-------------+------------+
10:45 alex_a_        | message_attribute_id | message_transport_type | is_digest | letter_module | letter_code | branchcode |
10:45 alex_a_        +----------------------+------------------------+-----------+---------------+-------------+------------+
10:45 vfernandes     how that table is populated?
10:45 alex_a_        I have this:
10:44 alex_a_        message_transports is empty
10:44 vfernandes     yes :)
10:44 alex_a_        vfernandes, you found what is wrong
10:43 vfernandes     :/
10:43 vfernandes     mysql> select * from message_transports; Empty set (0.00 sec)
10:36 vfernandes     what could be wrong?
10:35 vfernandes     looking at messaging-preference-form.inc we have [% IF ( messaging_preference.transport_email ) %]
10:33 vfernandes     it should be a checkbox but there is "-" instead
10:33 vfernandes     the option the select email on the borrower messaging preferences doesn't appear
10:32 vfernandes     something strange happened to one Koha installation
10:31 vfernandes     hi #koha
09:38 ashimema       :D
09:38 AndrewIsh      josef_moravec++
09:38 AndrewIsh      Holy cow bug 18589!!
09:35 huginn`        Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18589 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, andrew.isherwood, Passed QA , Show ILLs as part of patron profile
09:35 magnuse        woohoo! bug 18589
09:34 josef_moravec  liliputech_asu: do you mean that one small contribution? ;)
09:33 magnuse        :-)
09:32 dolf           This makes my work so much less confusing. Thanks!!
09:31 magnuse        yeah, there are historical reasons for that - biblio and biblioitems should really be one table
09:30 dolf           Another thing I'm looking for is the difference between biblioitemnumber (PK of biblioitems) and biblionumber (PK of biblios). They seem to always be exactly the same in my DB, yet there exists a foreign key relationship between the two.
09:29 magnuse        done = 1 indexed
09:29 magnuse        done = 0 waiting to be indexed
09:29 dolf           understood, thanks!
09:29 magnuse        yes
09:28 dolf           simply*
09:28 dolf           OK, so the rows in that table are simple "pending" changes that will propagate the the Zebra index later?
09:28 magnuse        and i think the second one is the normal operation when a record has been changed
09:27 magnuse        the first is when a record has been deleted
09:27 magnuse        dolf: i see recordDelete and specialUpdate as possible values of operation
09:20 dolf           Wow, that's cool, thanks. I'm specifically looking for the meaning of the columns in the zebraqueue table. Any idea what the different possible values of the operation column are, and what they mean? I'm not well acquainted with the source code...
09:15 liliputech_asu dolf:http://schema.koha-community.org/
09:09 dolf           Hi Kohaphiles, does anyone know where I can find documentation about the tables and columns of the Koha database? I'm investigating an issue with our library system by doing day-to-day comparison of recent database backups, but I don't understand what some of the tables do. The best I could find is the source code, but not all tables have comments: https://github.com/Koha-Community/Koha/blob/0c4bf00c30ce25165a5243bced7b7e19746a7e0b/installer/data/mysql/kohastruct
08:31 liliputech_asu josef_moravec : own u a beer for maintaining my recommender plugin! Will u be there at KohaCon?
08:30 liliputech_asu morning :)
08:19 josef_moravec  morning #koha
07:52 wahanui        que tal, alex_a
07:52 alex_a         bonjour
07:45 reiveune       hello
07:11 magnuse        \o/