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23:34 koha-jenkins    Project Koha_18.05_U18 build #221: SUCCESS in 42 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_18.05_U18/221/
23:15 koha-jenkins    Project Koha_18.05_D9 build #221: SUCCESS in 26 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_18.05_D9/221/
23:10 koha-jenkins    Project Koha_18.05_D8 build #224: SUCCESS in 19 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_18.05_D8/224/
22:30 koha-jenkins    Project Koha_18.05_D9 build #220: FIXED in 40 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_18.05_D9/220/
22:30 koha-jenkins    Yippee, build fixed!
22:14 koha-jenkins    Project Koha_18.05_U18 build #220: SUCCESS in 27 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_18.05_U18/220/
22:05 koha-jenkins    Project Koha_18.05_D8 build #223: FIXED in 19 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_18.05_D8/223/
22:05 koha-jenkins    Yippee, build fixed!
20:32 wizzyrea        at least the wifi works there.
20:32 wizzyrea        all of this flapping is the internet at my house. Tomorrow I shall work from the library.
19:58 oleonard        Bye all
19:39 koha-jenkins    Project Koha_Master_D8 build #180: STILL UNSTABLE in 36 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D8/180/
19:37 wizzyrea        :)
19:36 cait            sometimes i forget i turned it on when it works.... it's nice
19:35 cait            i think the full one doesn't happen automatically or something
19:35 cait            remember to index :)
19:35 cait            oh
19:35 cait            huh?
19:35 oleonard        cait? kidclamp? ^^
19:31 wizzyrea        like, commonly experienced problems, things to avoid...
19:31 koha-jenkins    Project Koha_Master_U18 build #163: STILL UNSTABLE in 31 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U18/163/
19:31 wizzyrea        anyone have any gotchas to relay to me before I give elasticsearch in the kohadevbox a go?
19:29 wizzyrea        hehe oleonard I know that feeling
19:29 wizzyrea        I hate it when you start something and then you get pulled off to something else and then you're like oh yeah i was doing that thing but then you've lost momentum
19:25 koha-jenkins    Project Koha_Master_D9 build #672: STILL UNSTABLE in 26 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9/672/
19:23 oleonard        It's just that I have ideas
19:22 wizzyrea        that's a lot :)
19:22 cait            so i'd say probably not :)
19:22 wizzyrea        lol
19:22 cait            ...
19:22 cait            i just deleted 100 qa branches this morning
19:21 oleonard        Is 50 branches with unfinished work too many?
18:59 koha-jenkins    Project Koha_18.05_U18 build #219: SUCCESS in 42 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_18.05_U18/219/
18:59 huginn`         News from kohagit: Bug 18925: (RM follow-up) Remove schema files for deletedtables <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=c57967681f3041aab19b7f14270e267c7de54be6>
18:59 huginn`         News from kohagit: Bug 18925: (RM follow-up) Remove maxissueqty from issuingrule in SIP tests <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=fcd6bdc5b8ed5cd48b19d03a86e2ab9aaa0b0626>
18:36 koha-jenkins    Project Koha_18.05_D9 build #219: UNSTABLE in 26 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_18.05_D9/219/
18:30 koha-jenkins    Project Koha_18.05_D8 build #222: UNSTABLE in 19 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_18.05_D8/222/
18:17 koha-jenkins    Project Koha_18.05_U18 build #218: SUCCESS in 42 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_18.05_U18/218/
18:10 koha-jenkins    Project Koha_18.05_D8 build #221: SUCCESS in 20 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_18.05_D8/221/
18:09 koha-jenkins    Project Koha_18.05_D9 build #218: SUCCESS in 26 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_18.05_D9/218/
18:05 wizzyrea        kinda like the girl scout ones but not
18:05 wizzyrea        they aren't even fancy ones they're like great value mint fudge cookies
18:03 oleonard        wizzyrea: I'm not sure I should ask what kind of stupid fudge mint cookies you're talking about because I probably shouldn't be shoving them into my gob
17:50 Joubu           it's not marked as push to your branch on the bug report
17:50 Joubu           JesseM, lucasG: 13515 is part of 18.05.10, was it expected?
17:50 koha-jenkins    Project Koha_18.05_D8 build #220: SUCCESS in 19 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_18.05_D8/220/
17:49 tcohen          hi wizzyrea
17:47 wizzyrea        why are these stupid fudge mint cookies so tasty
17:46 JesseM          thanks
17:46 wizzyrea        that's certainly what I did when I was rmaint as well
17:46 ashimema        JesseM oleonard  ^
17:45 ashimema        That's certainly what I did yeah.. it's what I was passed on when I became an rmaint
17:42 koha-jenkins    Project Koha_18.05_D9 build #217: SUCCESS in 26 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_18.05_D9/217/
17:35 koha-jenkins    Project Koha_18.05_U18 build #217: SUCCESS in 43 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_18.05_U18/217/
17:30 koha-jenkins    Project Koha_18.05_D8 build #219: SUCCESS in 19 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_18.05_D8/219/
17:15 koha-jenkins    Project Koha_18.05_D9 build #216: SUCCESS in 26 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_18.05_D9/216/
17:10 koha-jenkins    Project Koha_18.05_D8 build #218: SUCCESS in 19 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_18.05_D8/218/
16:59 JesseM          oleonard: I believe you are correct
16:54 huginn`         Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=22239 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , JavaScript error on subscription detail page when there are no orders
16:54 oleonard        (Bug 22239)
16:54 oleonard        JesseM: I think when you choose not to backport something the bug should be marked fixed. Isn't that what you do ashimema?
16:31 JesseM          :)
16:31 JesseM          sorry for my delay
16:31 indradg         JesseM++
16:30 JesseM          Hi indradg. Just sent the 18.05.10 release notes
16:07 reiveune        bye
16:01 indradg         thanks Joubu
15:56 Joubu           they are coming
15:56 Joubu           see minutes of the last meeeting :)
15:56 Joubu           see
15:54 indradg         we did not have a 18.05.10 release note published... did we?
15:41 magnuse         nothing very fancy :-)
15:37 indradg         magnuse: got it! thanks :)
15:37 magnuse         ^
15:37 pastebot        "magnuse" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "SMS YAML" (3 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/2592
15:35 indradg         magnuse: do you have an example yaml file for handling the additional variables for SMS around?
15:34 magnuse         hiya indradg
15:31 wizzyrea        hi indradg
15:28 * indradg       waves at magnuse
15:27 * indradg       waves at wizzyrea
15:21 magnuse         kia ora wizzyrea
15:19 wizzyrea        [off] it's a story and a half
15:18 eythian         wizzyrea: what are you doing in a weird place like that?
15:15 oleonard        Start of the work day in that time zone, speaking generally
15:14 wizzyrea        US time.
15:14 eythian         what time do you call this wizzyrea
15:14 wizzyrea        hi friends
15:01 Joubu           patches attached!
15:00 huginn`         Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=22466 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, ASSIGNED , TT methods must not be escaped
15:00 Joubu           kidclamp: bug 22466
14:56 calire          Joubu++
14:55 kidclamp        Joubu++
14:52 cait            Joubu++
14:51 oleonard        Joubu++
14:51 davidnind       Joubu++
14:51 huginn`         Log:            http://meetings.koha-community.org/2019/general_irc_meeting_6_march_2019.2019-03-06-14.05.log.html
14:51 huginn`         Minutes (text): http://meetings.koha-community.org/2019/general_irc_meeting_6_march_2019.2019-03-06-14.05.txt
14:51 huginn`         Minutes:        http://meetings.koha-community.org/2019/general_irc_meeting_6_march_2019.2019-03-06-14.05.html
14:51 huginn`         Meeting ended Wed Mar  6 14:51:17 2019 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)
14:51 Joubu           #endmeeting
14:51 Joubu           will be better to get KohaCon updates
14:51 davidnind       +1
14:51 Joubu           #info Next meeting: 3 April 2019, 14 UTC
14:50 oleonard        Let's stick with 3 April 2019, 14 UTC
14:50 thd             I happily favour any consensus for 14 UTC or so if there is such.
14:49 Joubu           would be 21 or 20?
14:49 Joubu           meetings on 21UTC are usually postponed because of the lack of attendees
14:48 thd             ... I prefer this time but that is just me.
14:47 thd             Should we not be alternating meeting times?
14:47 Joubu           #info Next meeting: 3 April 2019, 14 UTC
14:47 thd             Is that not the same TZ as now?
14:47 davidnind       +1
14:47 Charles_Quain   works for me
14:47 oleonard        +1
14:46 ashimema        that works for me
14:46 Joubu           Next meeting: 3 April 2019, 14 UTC then?
14:46 ashimema        so 3 April 2019, 14 UTC
14:46 oleonard        3 April 2019, 14 UTC?
14:46 davidnind       depends which tz you are in
14:46 calire          :D
14:46 Joubu           we are not in 2018 anymore, sorry :)
14:46 oleonard        Yes
14:46 ashimema        4th is thurs isn't it?
14:46 * ashimema      is confused
14:45 Joubu           better to stick on Wednesday I think
14:45 davidnind       Day before?
14:45 ashimema        anyone else got any preference
14:45 Joubu           4 April 2019, 15 UTC?
14:44 ashimema        shall we follow it?
14:44 Joubu           Same day or postpone to the week after?
14:44 oleonard        Documentation meeting at 14:00 UTC that day
14:44 wahanui         0.666666666666667
14:44 Joubu           14/21?
14:43 Joubu           Next meeting: 4 April 2019, ? UTC
14:42 Joubu           #topic Set time of next meeting
14:42 ashimema        +1
14:42 Joubu           I am gonna end the meeting then
14:41 ashimema        found the ES guys name.. Philipp Krenn
14:41 Joubu           Another topic to add to this meeting?
14:41 Joubu           #topic General
14:41 Joubu           #info and use #kohacon19 for social networks
14:40 Joubu           #info Do keep an eye on the KohaCon19 website https://www.interleaf.ie/kohacon19/
14:40 Charles_Quain   we are using #kohacon19 for twitter
14:40 Charles_Quain   do keep an eye on https://www.interleaf.ie/kohacon19/
14:40 davidnind       let me know if you want anything posted on Twitter - have posted from updates and retweets
14:39 Charles_Quain   ditto
14:39 ashimema        but do ask questions or catch me any time if you want to chat Kohacon
14:39 ashimema        I think that covers it from me..
14:37 * ashimema      can't spell today.. it's Sebastian.. not Sab ;)
14:37 Charles_Quain   waiting for the cash to roll in :-)
14:37 ashimema        I'd love to get Sabastian but he seems to always be busy ;)
14:37 Charles_Quain   Sponsorship of volunteers will depend in part on donations received. Donation page went live last week, and "begging letter" send in latest Koha_l update.
14:36 Joubu           whaou, that would be awesome
14:36 ashimema        all well respected perl 'gurus'
14:36 ashimema        Tim Bunce a third
14:36 ashimema        I need to firm up names.. but Matt Trout is a possible, Jan Henning Thorsen is another
14:35 oleonard        What kind of travel expenses are you covering for volunteers ;)
14:35 ashimema        I'm still looking for volunteers to help run 'Hands on with X' sessions.. to encourage librarians to participate in the workshops as well as the conference
14:35 Joubu           names? :)
14:34 ashimema        We've got an ES guy booked pending confirmation from myself, and a couple of perl pros (dbic and mojolicious in particular)
14:33 ashimema        I'm still tying down people to run workshops.
14:33 Charles_Quain   Martin Renvoize is looking to get an Elastic Search presence to do a long workshop
14:32 Charles_Quain   looking to have Ken Chad - Library Consultant as Keynote speaker.
14:32 Charles_Quain   75 delegates have registered
14:31 Charles_Quain   good progress on Kohacon. speaking slots filling up nicely - 24 proposals so far
14:31 ashimema        I'll take a look at the qa tools Joubu.. sorry I hadn't spotted the merge requests open
14:30 Joubu           #topic KohaCon 2019 update
14:30 Joubu           it's not a dev meeting actually :)
14:30 Joubu           We need help on misc4dev and QA tools, there are PR waiting for testing
14:29 cait            Joubu and others, do you have to add something?
14:28 cait            #info Please take a look at major bugs that await fixing, testing or QA (see dashboard)
14:28 cait            the dashboard shows quite a few of major bugs with the numbers slowly rising, not all in qa queue yet
14:28 * ashimema      will be taking up arms against the QA queue again soon.. needed a few days break after a busy month
14:28 cait            and the Elasticsearch pile
14:27 cait            #info queue is under control and moving, but as always work never ends
14:27 * ashimema      would like to thank josef_moravec in particular.. he's been great going through the ILL pile
14:27 cait            queue is mostly under control, but it's a never-ending battle
14:27 cait            special thanks to the busy QA team members
14:26 wahanui         i guess qa_team is cait alex_a jajm khall josef_moravec ashimema Joubu marcelr tcohen rangi
14:26 Joubu           qa_team?
14:26 Joubu           moving on?
14:26 fridolin        i will reply on it
14:26 huginn`         Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=22395 critical, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, RESOLVED FIXED, Data in 245 field (subfield a or b) will be deleted if it has Quotation Marks
14:26 fridolin        there is a mail "Critical bug fix to prevent data loss (Bug 22395)"
14:25 cait            maybe reply to the other email
14:25 cait            ml too please?
14:25 ashimema        brill
14:25 fridolin        no pb
14:25 fridolin        i think we can do a post on WP
14:24 Joubu           so nobody can know :)
14:24 ashimema        brill
14:24 ashimema        fridolin: JesseM does that sound about right?
14:24 ashimema        I think we've done all the work and made the releases.. just not done the anouncements
14:24 fridolin        yep i'll do an anconcement
14:24 davidnind       I assume there will be the normal announcement?
14:24 ashimema        I think we should.. and we aught to have the fix anounced on the lists
14:24 Joubu           #topic Updates from the QA team
14:23 Joubu           #action fridolin JesseM maybe add an update on the website?
14:23 cait            hm links to latest release?
14:23 Joubu           should we add/update the news fields on the website?
14:22 tcohen          we upgraded last friday
14:22 tcohen          18.05.10 is already for upgrading
14:22 Joubu           #info If you are using 17.11.14 or 17.11.15 you should update quickly to 17.11.16 that is going to be released very soon
14:22 fridolin        same for 17.11.15 to 17.11.16
14:22 Joubu           hope I did not mess with the version numbers
14:21 Joubu           #info If you are using 18.05.08 or 18.05.09 you should update quickly to 18.05.10 that is going to be released very soon
14:21 ashimema        I don't think I saw them announced
14:21 ashimema        #info 18.05 and 17.11 both recieved a fast tracked release to resolve issues caused by bug 21986
14:21 fridolin        packages are done
14:21 ashimema        #info 18.11 was unaffected by a bug instroduced by bug 21986
14:21 fridolin        tag is pushed
14:20 Joubu           fridolin: not released yet, or I missed it?
14:20 ashimema        #info 18.11 is ticking along nicely
14:20 huginn`         Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=21986 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Stable , Quotation marks are wrongly escaped in several places
14:19 fridolin        because of major bug 21986 reverted
14:19 ashimema        18.11 is running smoothly, last release was clean
14:19 cait            sorry for being too late
14:19 cait            I filed a bug for that - 22210
14:19 fridolin        we add a quick second release v17.11.16
14:19 cait            (mana)
14:19 kidclamp        jessem
14:19 cait            the bugs are more urgent, but I'd also like us to revisit how to register - right now it asks for a person, i think it would be better if it asked for an institution
14:19 Joubu           well, I thought I updated you
14:19 fridolin        yep
14:19 wahanui         rmaints is probably ashimema and fridolin are the rmaints
14:19 Joubu           rmaints?
14:18 wahanui         i think rmaints is ashimema and fridolin are the rmaints
14:18 Joubu           rmaints?
14:18 Joubu           #topic Updates from the Release Maintainers
14:18 Joubu           alex_a: let's see that after the meeting, we can help :)
14:18 alex_a          Joubu, think i'll need help
14:17 kidclamp        josef_moravec++
14:17 Joubu           alex_a: it's on the main Mana report, in comments or related bugs
14:17 ashimema        #info it would be great if anyone fancied volunteering to run a workshop focusing on how to write selenium tests (or writing a bunch of them as a team) at kohacon
14:17 alex_a          Joubu, bug #id ?
14:17 huginn`         Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=22222 major, P5 - low, ---, josef.moravec, Needs Signoff , Mana subscription search always returns all results
14:17 josef_moravec   regarding mana search, see bug 22222, patch just added
14:16 Joubu           ashimema: "writing useful and maintanable selenium tests" is much more tricky ;)
14:16 kidclamp        enough from me
14:16 kidclamp        Thanks to everyone for hard work and keeping QA queue coming my way :-)
14:16 khall           #info Kyle M Hall, ByWater Solutions
14:16 vfernandes      hi #koha
14:16 * ashimema      is trying to find someone to run a "writing selenium tests" workshop at kohacon
14:16 Joubu           there are more in the queue! :)
14:16 cait            Joubu: we threaten to remove it? ;)
14:16 * kidclamp      coughs and looks at ashimema
14:15 kidclamp        I have been very lax about requesting selenium tests, but I feel we are going to need mroe inthe future
14:15 Joubu           ping alex_a: Mana fixes are needed
14:15 kidclamp        in general release does feel lie it is moving well
14:15 kidclamp        big issue is search results - not sure if problem is on Koha end or Mana end
14:14 huginn`         Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18736 critical, P5 - low, ---, nick, Failed QA , Problems in order calculations (rounding errors)
14:14 josef_moravec   bug 18736
14:14 Joubu           how do we get the needed attention on Mana?
14:14 huginn`         Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18925 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Move maxissueqty and maxonsiteissueqty to circulation_rules
14:14 cait            bug 18925
14:14 Joubu           that sounds quite critical for stable releases
14:14 kidclamp        indeed, I will try to update rounding error 18736 as well
14:14 Joubu           I think we need more people involved in the fix/test process
14:14 koha-jenkins    Project Koha_Master_D8 build #179: STILL UNSTABLE in 35 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D8/179/
14:13 Joubu           there was movements on the "fix calculation - 2" bug
14:13 kidclamp        s/Manan/Mana/
14:13 kidclamp        Manan needs some attention, please help there if possible
14:13 kidclamp        ES has made soem good progress, happy about that
14:13 kidclamp        and working through the queue
14:12 kidclamp        rental fees by time period is next target
14:12 kidclamp        Pushing some things today - we (Joubu) is working on clearing the failures from 18925
14:12 Joubu           kidclamp: your turn
14:12 Joubu           #topic Update from the Release Manager (19.05)
14:12 Joubu           thanks jenkins, that's not a good announcement
14:12 ashimema        go for it..
14:12 * kidclamp      nods
14:11 koha-jenkins    Project Koha_Master_U18 build #162: STILL UNSTABLE in 31 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U18/162/
14:11 Joubu           moving on?
14:11 Joubu           great, lot of things :)
14:10 ashimema        cool
14:10 cait            #link http://lists.koha-community.org/pipermail/koha-de/2019-February/000194.html
14:10 kidclamp        #link https://bywatersolutions.com/news/2019-new-england-koha-summit
14:09 cait            #link http://www.professionalabstracts.com/bid2019/iplanner/#/session/30
14:09 tcohen          #info Tomas Cohen Arazi, Theke Solutions
14:09 Joubu           cait: Is there an agenda?
14:09 kidclamp        #info Koha New England Summit on Friday March 8th
14:08 cait            #info There will be a Koha user meeting at the German library congress in 2 weeks
14:08 ashimema        good turn out today
14:08 kidclamp        Koha New England Summit friday: https://bywatersolutions.com/news/2019-new-england-koha-summit
14:08 fridolin        #info Fridolin Somers , Biblibre, France
14:08 magnuse         #info Magnus Enger, Libriotech, Norway
14:07 Joubu           Anyone have something?
14:07 Joubu           #topic Announcements
14:07 Charles_Quain   #info Charles Quain Interleaf Technology Dublin
14:07 thd             #info Thomas Dukleth, Agogme, New York City
14:06 davidnind       #info David Nind, Wellington, New Zealand
14:06 calire          #info Claire Gravely, BSZ, Germany
14:06 huginn`         Current chairs: Joubu ashimema cait kidclamp
14:06 Joubu           #chair cait kidclamp ashimema
14:06 cait            #info Katrin Fischer, BSZ, Germany
14:06 cc_             #info Colin Campbell, PTFS Europe
14:06 Joubu           #info Jonathan Druart
14:06 oleonard        #info Owen Leonard, Athens County Public Libraries, USA
14:06 Joubu           #link https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/General_IRC_meeting_06_March_2019
14:06 josef_moravec   #info Josef Moravec, Municipal Library Ústí nad Orlicí, Czech Republic
14:06 koha-jenkins    Project Koha_Master_D9 build #671: STILL UNSTABLE in 27 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9/671/
14:06 kidclamp        #info Nick Clemens, BWS
14:06 ashimema        #info Martin Renvoize, PTFS Europe
14:06 * kidclamp      let's Joubu drive :-)
14:05 Joubu           #topic Introductions
14:05 huginn`         kidclamp: Error: Can't start another meeting, one is in progress.
14:05 kidclamp        #startmeeting General IRC meeting 6 March 2019
14:05 ashimema        haha.. easily done
14:05 huginn`         The meeting name has been set to 'general_irc_meeting_6_march_2019'
14:05 huginn`         Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.
14:05 huginn`         Meeting started Wed Mar  6 14:05:38 2019 UTC.  The chair is Joubu. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
14:05 Joubu           #startmeeting General IRC meeting 6 March 2019
14:05 kidclamp        when our timezone changes
14:05 kidclamp        nope, I was looking at next weeks dev meeting
14:05 * ashimema      could be wrong
14:04 kidclamp        oh, I thought it was in an hour
14:04 magnuse         why would issues.branchcode be empty?
14:03 ashimema        meeting?
14:01 Joubu           kidclamp: I am working on the .push that is wrongly filtered
13:49 cait            (collection code vs. collection)
13:48 cait            i ran out of time and realzed it was more than one spot
13:48 cait            hope you are ok with the follow-up request
13:48 cait            sure!
13:48 oleonard        Thanks for the QA'ing cait!
13:35 huginn`         News from kohagit: Bug 18925: (QA follow-up) Remove weird 'Null' values for integer column <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=32fc535b8a71483b401b964b273cb280758ea8f4>
13:20 corilynn        I'm just sayin' that's what I did
13:20 corilynn        well, if it isn't you, then it isn't you...
13:20 oleonard        corilynn: I'm not sure how to handle that...
13:15 corilynn        I was using the koha sandboxes...
13:14 corilynn        mornin' oleonard
13:13 huginn`         ashimema: The operation succeeded.
13:13 ashimema        @later tell josef_moravec bug 21683 might need a bit more attentin josef.. tomas and I are both at a lose as to where to go next
13:13 huginn`         Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=21683 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, josef.moravec, Failed QA , Remove accountlines.accountno
13:13 ashimema        bug 21683 might need a bit more attentin josef.. tomas and I are both at a lose as to where to go next
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13:03 Joubu           wizzyrea: about 19014: there is too much writing, I did not follow everything. I would expect someone to test the patch I provided then tell me what's wrong/good with it :)
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12:53 huginn`         Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=22462 major, P5 - low, ---, cnighswonger, NEW , Crash in patron card printing
12:53 cait            my coworker figured out how to crash your server with patron card printing reliably: bug 22462
12:39 AndrewIsh       Count yourself lucky ;-)
12:39 oleonard        True. I guess I'm not familiar with cases where the parameters are unpredictable.
12:38 AndrewIsh       oleonard:  I agree that transparency is key, but if the parameters being passed are unpredictable, I'm not sure how else it could be done
12:38 oleonard        I think it's worth bringing up at a dev meeting though.
12:37 oleonard        My preference is that it be fairly transparent to the person working on the template what variables are being used. This offers the flexibility of switching a link to a simple form or something like that.
12:37 tcohen          AndrewIsh: it looks interesting
12:33 AndrewIsh       Which I can then use in my href <a href="[% link_url %]">Linky</a>
12:32 AndrewIsh       oleonard:  Well, it enables me to pass all parameters to be included in the URL to the template as a hashref, then simply generate the link using: [% USE link_url = url('/cgi-bin/koha/opac-illrequests.pl', params) | url %]
12:30 oleonard        I'm not sure I understand how the plugin makes it easier
12:30 oleonard        AndrewIsh: There's no special way to do it, other than requirements about filtering variables.
12:27 huginn`         News from kohagit: Bug 18925: Move maxissueqty and maxonsiteissueqty to circulation_rules <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=26a779eded6fe24abe0be904da64e0186c3d91ec>
12:27 huginn`         News from kohagit: Bug 18925: (follow-up) Change name of rule to fix ambiguity <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=f9d90a26444b2c4b5c8dbeaaa237b9fcf3ae1234>
12:27 huginn`         News from kohagit: Bug 18925: (follow-up) Fix null/empty behavior <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=d1303ca834dd0b08fc1d44476cfbbb8b729b6165>
12:27 huginn`         News from kohagit: Bug 18925: Replace logic in GetBranchBorrowerCircRule with get_effective_rule <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=6845cd6a67fcc57c22aa695970236e3caab336fd>
12:27 huginn`         News from kohagit: Bug 18925: Fix null/empty behavior, again <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=2d3aaff84e0d467c0cc44ae9f99c88879b8bcc0d>
12:27 huginn`         News from kohagit: Bug 18925: Update new occurrences <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=566bb2976671dc56c67508c62bfe30f4b25a7656>
12:27 huginn`         News from kohagit: Bug 18925: (QA follow-up) Make DB update idempotent <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=fc92437665a337c3d731ed04ad617d6597718afa>
12:27 huginn`         News from kohagit: Bug 18925: (QA follow-up) Fix indentation characters in smart-rules.tt <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=fbfcc5437ecbbb3e2bd2d65c6a8c55df3917b7ee>
12:27 huginn`         News from kohagit: Bug 18925: (QA follow-up) Fix basic_workflow.t <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=05a2c58f790cc2de03ff2a9f52700f55982d36b4>
12:27 huginn`         News from kohagit: Bug 18925: Move existing rules <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=13faff1250ed3ede712c405821f3ad9187e892b6>
12:27 huginn`         News from kohagit: Bug 18925: Fix 'Default checkout, hold policy by patron category' block <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=cf207a07a1104b752b16b89bd6dac50331fb2bc2>
12:27 huginn`         News from kohagit: Bug 18925: (QA follow-up) Fix Circulation.t <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=1fd998f413c320257341f8ff86279cc3ed2c0a24>
12:27 huginn`         News from kohagit: Bug 18925: (RM follow-up) Remove issuingrules columns for new installs <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=60c51b9bb07de4dea16b0a883ad1881829fe69ed>
12:27 huginn`         News from kohagit: Bug 18925: DBRev 18.12.00.020 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=c53f907235116b17d9c31d644c8d576e915992c6>
12:25 AndrewIsh       Upon playing, the url plugin does exactly what I need, I just wondered if Koha had an acknowledged way of doing it
12:24 AndrewIsh       I just asked this: "Does anyone know if there's a standard "Koha" way of a template taking a hashref of parameters (simple key/value pairs) and joining them into a query string to be included in a link? I can cook up my own solution, but it feels like the sort of thing Koha would have a "way" of doing.  The url plugin seems to do exactly this: http://www.template-toolkit.org/docs/modules/Template/Plugin/URL.html"
12:24 oleonard        Oh boy!
12:23 AndrewIsh       Hi oleonard - just the person! ;-)
12:23 oleonard        Hi all
12:12 AndrewIsh       The url plugin seems to do exactly this: http://www.template-toolkit.org/docs/modules/Template/Plugin/URL.html
12:09 AndrewIsh       I can cook up my own solution, but it feels like the sort of thing Koha would have a "way" of doing
12:09 AndrewIsh       Does anyone know if there's a standard "Koha" way of a template taking a hashref of parameters (simple key/value pairs) and joining them into a query string to be included in a link?
11:02 magnuse         \o/
10:33 * andreashm     waves
10:13 josef_moravec   it at least is the same now in $Price template filter...
10:13 josef_moravec   cait: should a currency setting be applied the same on acquisition and fines management?
10:12 josef_moravec   cait: not sure
10:12 josef_moravec   we can prevent it by hardcoding precision to 2 as a first step;
10:12 cait            could a setting at currency level make sense?
10:11 cait            do we really need to pref it? no way to make it not happen in the first place?
10:11 cait            josef_moravec: not sure, still need to take a closer look
10:10 josef_moravec   hi tcohen
10:10 tcohen          morning
08:56 huginn`         Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17140 major, P5 - low, ---, philippe.blouin, Failed QA , Incorrect rounding in total fines calculations, part 2
08:56 josef_moravec   i will try to do something with bug 17140 hopefully
08:55 josef_moravec   would you think it would be OK to set fines precision as system preference? or do we need more granularity here? like on library base for example
08:54 josef_moravec   hi cait
08:53 cait            morning #koha
08:16 josef_moravec   hi magnuse
08:13 magnuse         \o/
07:56 josef_moravec   hi fridolin, reiveune
07:56 wahanui         privet, reiveune
07:56 reiveune        hello
07:54 fridolin        hi
07:53 josef_moravec   hello alex_a
07:53 alex_a          bonjour
07:29 cait            bbiab
06:57 cait            hm
06:56 josef_moravec   s/manual/manually/
06:56 josef_moravec   they can at least be added manual - could be mistake, typo, ...
06:55 cait            but that's where I'm missing information right now, I want to know where they come from to understand better
06:54 josef_moravec   cait: absolutely agree
06:54 cait            my feeling is that such values should not exist in the first place
06:53 josef_moravec   ;)
06:53 josef_moravec   I am not against some quick fix for now, but the one just proposed is bad IMO, because it could lead to pay another amount than librarian expect, even if it is smaller than 0.01, because, we can't know all currencies on the world, who knows, there could be a currency where even 0.01 is big value - bitcoin fo example ;
06:51 josef_moravec   now we have Koha::Account::add_debit so could be doable
06:50 josef_moravec   Then when any debit is created it should tak it into account do a check and during manual creation show warning and want to fix it by librarian, or when created automatically, it should be handled somehow
06:49 cait            sounds right to me
06:48 josef_moravec   I think we should always have the same values on ui and db, and there should be some setting on precision...
06:47 cait            not sure when I can have a look :(
06:47 cait            we didn't either with EUR :)
06:47 josef_moravec   cait: I have no idea, we only use whole crowns here in czech republic... so we never faced this
06:44 cait            how do those fines get created in the first place? we never had any isues there
06:41 wahanui         I haven't seen 'comments,', cait
06:41 cait            seen comments, but didn't have time to read up on it
06:41 josef_moravec   ?
06:41 huginn`         Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17140 major, P5 - low, ---, philippe.blouin, Failed QA , Incorrect rounding in total fines calculations, part 2
06:41 josef_moravec   cait: have you seen discussion on bug 17140
06:41 * josef_moravec waves back
06:41 * cait          waves
06:37 josef_moravec   morning #koha
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