Time Nick Message 23:57 tallerjoy <but the giphys are fun> 23:57 tallerjoy so better productivity with communication balanced by less productivity goofing off 23:57 tallerjoy i am curious how many "person hours" are spent in slack searching for gifs to share via the giphy app. 23:56 tallerjoy ha! 23:56 * oleonard reminds tallerjoy to put her shoes in the cubby before getting on Slack 23:55 caroline1 tallerjoy: lol! 23:55 tallerjoy slack feels like the mcdonald's play area of IRC 23:54 tallerjoy ok 23:54 tallerjoy hmmm.... 23:53 oleonard But ~~* emojis *~~ 23:53 tallerjoy yes. <not a fan> 23:52 oleonard You disappeared into the Slackiverse didn't you 23:52 tallerjoy yah. i need to put the irc back into 'auto start' on this pc 23:52 oleonard Hi tallerjoy, long time no see 23:46 * tallerjoy shake it up a bit 23:46 tallerjoy HI 23:33 caroline1 it's been pretty quiet afaik 23:32 oleonard Yeah, just felt like popping in to see if anything was going on 23:32 caroline1 it's rare you're on this late! 23:31 caroline1 oh hello oleonard! 23:31 oleonard Hi again #koha 22:29 aleisha_ cait thanks for the reminder about assigning - we'll try to keep on top of that so you don't have to! 22:05 vero at the moment of generating a report, the connection has been restarted, it indicates the browser that I must solve, thanks 21:53 cait that's all from me for today - good night :) 21:44 vero at the moment of generating a report, the connection has been restarted, it indicates the browser that I must solve, thanks 21:36 magnuse academy++ helene++ 21:14 cait i've fixed all I came across - but might have missed one. And you are so fast making more 21:14 cait one tiny thing: if you submit a patch, please assign yourself the bug in the "Assignee" field :) 21:11 * jasmine says thank you!! 21:11 helene Thanks:) 21:10 cait great job 21:10 * cait waves to the academy students 19:43 JesseM Night! 19:42 huginn cait: The operation succeeded. 19:42 cait @later tell tcohen please read the meeting logs for some discussion abotu the endpoint 19:42 davidnind cait++ 19:42 cait thx all 19:42 huginn Log: http://meetings.koha-community.org/2019/development_irc_meeting_16_january_2019.2019-01-16-19.08.log.html 19:42 huginn Minutes (text): http://meetings.koha-community.org/2019/development_irc_meeting_16_january_2019.2019-01-16-19.08.txt 19:42 huginn Minutes: http://meetings.koha-community.org/2019/development_irc_meeting_16_january_2019.2019-01-16-19.08.html 19:42 huginn Meeting ended Wed Jan 16 19:42:30 2019 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) 19:42 cait #endmeeting 19:42 cait #info Next meeting: 30 January 2019, 14 UTC 19:42 josef_moravec could be 19:41 cait 14 UTC? 19:41 cait January 30 19:41 cait so every 2 weeks i guess 19:41 cait it looks ike we had 2 in december... and 2 in november 19:40 cait #topic Set time of next meeting 19:39 cait issomeone aware of when the next meeting should be? 19:39 cait great, now i want to see thatmoving forward :) 19:39 huginn yes (5): davidnind, cait, JesseM, josef_moravec, khall 19:39 huginn Voted on "Do we agree on the new coding guidelines Swagger 3.2, 3.3 and 3.4 as outlined on the wiki?" Results are 19:39 cait #endvote 19:39 cait ending vote... last chance 19:39 davidnind what cait said :) 19:39 cait nice 19:39 JesseM #vote yes 19:39 davidnind #vote yes 19:39 khall #vote yes 19:39 josef_moravec #vote yes 19:39 cait trustng the experts (including josef_moravec) 19:38 cait #vote yes 19:38 huginn Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. 19:38 huginn Begin voting on: Do we agree on the new coding guidelines Swagger 3.2, 3.3 and 3.4 as outlined on the wiki? Valid vote options are , yes, no, abstain, . 19:38 cait #startvote Do we agree on the new coding guidelines Swagger 3.2, 3.3 and 3.4 as outlined on the wiki? (yes,no,abstain) 19:38 josef_moravec the proposed rules does make sense to me, and are not too complicated ;) but it would be great to have these things explicitaly written 19:37 davidnind I'd say yes 19:36 cait should we vote? 19:36 cait hard to tell for me... but I generally trust tcohen 19:35 cait it seems a bit incompleate - at least swagger 4 19:34 josef_moravec tcohen++ 19:34 cait I suspect tcohen here too 19:34 cait #topic Review of coding guidelines 19:33 cait moving on! 19:33 cait anything more for general development? 19:33 cait ok 19:33 huginn yes (4): davidnind, cait, JesseM, josef_moravec 19:33 huginn Voted on "Do we agree to adopt the public api for changing the password as outlined here:https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Public_patrons_password_endpoint_RFC with the note that a more detailed attribute name would be aprreciated?" Results are 19:33 cait #endvote 19:33 cait ending vote... last chance 19:32 JesseM #vote yes 19:32 josef_moravec #vote yes 19:32 davidnind #vote yes 19:32 cait more lying on the couch with the laptop :) 19:32 cait #vote yes 19:32 davidnind too much QAing!:) 19:32 huginn Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. 19:32 huginn Begin voting on: Do we agree to adopt the public api for changing the password as outlined here:https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Public_patrons_password_endpoint_RFC with the note that a more detailed attribute name would be aprreciated? Valid vote options are , yes, no, abstain, . 19:32 cait #startvote Do we agree to adopt the public api for changing the password as outlined here:https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Public_patrons_password_endpoint_RFC with the note that a more detailed attribute name would be aprreciated? (yes,no,abstain) 19:31 cait harder to type 19:31 cait but my hand fell asleep heh 19:31 cait takig over 19:31 cait sec 19:30 kidclamp bye 19:30 kidclamp I support it for the the record 19:30 kidclamp I have to run, just trying to phrase 19:30 kidclamp Do we agree to adopt the public api for changing the password as outlined here:https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Public_patrons_password_endpoint_RFC with the note that a more detailed attribute name would be aprreciated? 19:28 davidnind make it more meaningful, sounds like naming something document 1, document 2 <-- not that I know anything about naming these things! 19:28 kidclamp okay, vote and mention that as a note? 19:28 kidclamp description makes it clear I think 19:27 cait but I am ok with keeping it too or let tcohen decide 19:27 cait that's why i thought password_repeat might be more speaking 19:27 kidclamp I don't mind either way 19:27 cait th efirst... the second 19:27 * josef_moravec has no strong opinion too 19:27 cait it made it sound like a separate passwrod to me 19:26 * khall has no strong opinion 19:26 cait are we ok with password_2 or should we rename? 19:26 josef_moravec and Koha should care about it not, some api consumer... 19:25 josef_moravec yes, i think so too 19:25 kidclamp I think firget would be a separate process 19:25 josef_moravec and also, if we have new password twice, clients implementation could be simpler... 19:25 cait this is a little trickier than I expected :) 19:25 cait forgotten 19:25 cait if it's a password forget process 19:24 cait i think the old password might be a good point 19:24 cait maybe mostly a question of what is required 19:24 khall but in the end it does no harm 19:24 khall cait: yeah, that was my point too 19:24 cait but they can jus copy it? 19:23 josef_moravec I am for repeated new password too,, we can't relly on client implementations... 19:23 khall we can't require the old password because it may be for a 'forgot your password' system 19:23 khall new twice 19:23 cait both = p1 and p1 or old and new? 19:22 khall I think it's fine to have both there as well. It could make the form data directly pass-through 19:22 cait leave koha to verify 19:22 cait i am fine with the old, it might make things easier 19:22 huginn Bug 22061: enhancement, P5 - low, 19.05, tomascohen, Signed Off , Public route to change password 19:22 kidclamp https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=22061 19:22 cait yeah 19:21 khall confirming the password twice is a front-end process 19:21 cait we can't really tell how the GUI will implment 19:21 khall that's what I was thinking 19:21 aleisha_ thanks davidnind for testing so many academy patches! 19:21 cait does it make sense anyway to ask for it twice? 19:21 cait maybe password_repeated? 19:21 cait i was thinking password_2 might be confusing 19:20 kidclamp any questions? 19:20 kidclamp tcohen has asked for a vote 19:20 kidclamp #link https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Public_patrons_password_endpoint_RFC REST API - Public route to change patron's password 19:19 khall can do kidclamp , just remind me ;) 19:19 kidclamp #topic General development discussion (trends, ideas, ...) 19:19 * kidclamp *cough* ashimema *cough* khall *cough* 19:19 cait that's it from me 19:19 cait need someone for SIP :) 19:18 cait hm and recently SIP activity too 19:18 kidclamp #info ES and ILL patches need attention as well 19:18 cait we've got quite a bit of ILL and Elastic patches waiting too - anyone willing to help there is also welcome. Second sign offs are often good too - they make us more confident 19:17 kidclamp #info the queue is growing, please help with bugs especially for maintenance releases 19:17 cait 38 of those are bugs, so it would be good to take of those for the upcoming maintenance releases 19:17 cait 70 2 days ago... so calling out to the QA team to help fix that :) 19:16 kamar I need to know if Koha can be install on Ubuntu Live server 19:16 cait so, we got the bad bugs down from 20 to 16 currently, but the queue is pretty full - 100 19:16 josef_moravec sorry being late 19:16 josef_moravec #info Josef Moravec 19:16 cait sec 19:16 cait ah 19:16 kidclamp cait, all yours 19:15 cait kamar: yes, koha is fine on ubuntu. we are currently in a meeting, can you ask later? 19:15 kidclamp #topic Updates from the QA team 19:15 JesseM Working hard to keep up with Martin. :) But things are going great with 18.05.x 19:15 kidclamp #info 18.05 is going great 19:15 kamar I need to know if Koha can be install on Ubuntu Live ser 19:15 kidclamp #info 18.11 is coming alon, see notes form Koha meeting this morning 19:14 kamar Hello everyone 19:13 kidclamp #topic Updates from the Release Maintainers 19:13 kidclamp Alll for me 19:13 kidclamp koha++ 19:13 kidclamp Thanks to all for their hard work, accounts and other things moving along nicely 19:13 kidclamp Will hold off on pushing while I test but wil ctach up to bugs and academy asd soon as I can 19:12 kidclamp I am working on testing Mana and providing feedback to Alex - I want to push this early so appreciate any other eyes before I do so :-) 19:12 kidclamp #topic Updates from Release Manager (19.05) 19:12 kidclamp #link https://www.interleaf.ie/kohacon19/ KohaCon2019 website 19:11 kidclamp #info KohaCon 2019 call for proposals open 19:11 JesseM Rmaint 18.05.x is going great! 19:11 kidclamp #info Academy ish papneing, please sign off and QA patches 19:10 kidclamp Kohacon 2019 call for proposals is open 19:10 cait QA and sign off academy patches! 19:09 kidclamp #topic Announcements 19:09 cait #info Katrin Fischer, BSZ, Germany 19:09 khall #info Kyle M Hall, ByWater Solutions 19:08 davidnind #info David Nind, Wellington, New Zealand 19:08 JesseM #info Jesse Maseto, ByWater, USA 19:08 kidclamp #info Nick Clemens, ByWater Solutions 19:08 kidclamp #topic Introductions 19:08 huginn Current chairs: cait kidclamp 19:08 kidclamp #chair cait 19:08 huginn The meeting name has been set to 'development_irc_meeting_16_january_2019' 19:08 huginn Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 19:08 huginn Meeting started Wed Jan 16 19:08:11 2019 UTC. The chair is kidclamp. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 19:08 kidclamp #startmeeting Development IRC meeting 16 January 2019 19:07 cait i will take over 19:07 cait kidclamp: do you want to start? 19:07 cait ok .. 19:07 kidclamp that's 5 19:07 JesseM Im here :) 19:07 davidnind hehe 19:06 cait or do something else fun 19:06 cait we should use that chance and rename Koha 19:06 cait ? 19:06 cait = 19:06 cait really.. that's all 19:05 cait 4 19:04 khall here 19:04 cait rangi: ? 19:04 cait 3 19:04 davidnind I'm here.. 19:03 wahanui i heard khall was here :) 19:03 kidclamp khall? 19:03 cait ok, now we are 2 19:03 cait w ewill have the meeting if at least 5 people are here 19:03 kidclamp I am here 19:03 cait it seems everyone is somewhere else 19:03 cait n oworries 19:03 caroline ah! sorry! I'm in training :( 19:02 cait caroline, meeting? :) 19:02 cait or let's ask differently, wh ocan attend the meeting? 19:02 cait so noone is here? :) 19:01 JesseM Me too ;) 19:00 cait noted 18:59 ashimema Rmaint update from me would be much the same as the one I gave for the general meeting earlier today 18:59 cait oops 18:59 ashimema I've sent my apologies on the agenda but will send them here and now too.. afraid I've just walked into a school meeting. 18:56 cait meeting in 5 18:23 hh I try to run a report and it comes out in my browser. The connection has been restarted. Is the server problem? Thank you 17:23 reiveune bye 17:11 Ve cantidad de préstamos de los usuarios 17:10 Ve loans 17:06 magnuse Ve: what do you mean by "more loans"? 17:02 Ve I can not find it in the report library 17:01 Ve Users with more loans, in sql, Thanks 16:43 magnuse yeeeehaaaw! 16:42 oleonard It's the wild west out here magnuse, you make your own rules 16:41 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8437 critical, P2, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Large database backups and large exports from export.pl fail under plack 16:41 magnuse i'd like to take the last patch off bug 8437 and create a separate bug for it - are there any rules about doing things like that? apart from keeping the atrribution to the patch author, of course? 16:41 magnuse gah, missed the meeting 16:25 cait oleonard++ 16:19 oleonard Sure 16:19 cait could i forward that to you for optimization before i put it on? 16:19 cait oleonard: JesseM suggested using the one from portland 16:10 oleonard I would like to send someone a replacement version of that image on the front page. The one which is there is way too big. 16:09 ashimema odd 16:09 ashimema even going via a vpn.. the front page works.. but other pages still 500 16:08 ashimema wow 16:08 ashimema I think there's a load balancer or something out there that doesn't like me 16:08 ashimema I can too.. if only I can access it.. I still get 500 errors 16:08 ashimema she can 16:05 oleonard cait: You do updates to the web site? 16:03 oleonard vero did you check this page? https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/SQL_Reports_Library 16:03 vero users with more loans by type of category, as I generate the report from sql, thank you very much 15:48 eythian I have four days of this week with no meetings at all. I'm getting so much done. 15:42 * oleonard would very much have preferred being at this meeting than the one he was at instead 15:22 ashimema Sorry, was driving 15:22 ashimema No worries 15:21 kidclamp sorry ashimema 15:21 kidclamp perhaps we can poke them for email update at least 15:21 kidclamp Ah, i see now carloine 15:21 huginn Log: http://meetings.koha-community.org/2019/general_irc_meeting_16_january_2019.2019-01-16-14.11.log.html 15:21 huginn Minutes (text): http://meetings.koha-community.org/2019/general_irc_meeting_16_january_2019.2019-01-16-14.11.txt 15:21 huginn Minutes: http://meetings.koha-community.org/2019/general_irc_meeting_16_january_2019.2019-01-16-14.11.html 15:21 huginn Meeting ended Wed Jan 16 15:21:17 2019 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) 15:21 kidclamp #endmeeting 15:21 kidclamp #info Next meeting: 13 February 2019, 19 UTC 15:19 kidclamp so NZ can at least think about attending without waking up at ungodly hours 15:19 caroline ok no problem! 15:19 kidclamp this one is on the earlier so next should be later 15:19 kidclamp I think we try to go between 11 and 20 roughyl caroline, alternating 15:19 kidclamp sorry, was ion another meeting 15:18 caroline I would suggest 14utc 15:15 caroline whatever is good with me, I just wanted to make sure, as ashimema said to have a time where dublin ppl can be here 15:14 caroline ok 15:14 wizzyrea also hi 15:14 wizzyrea 19's not a terrible hour 15:13 caroline is that good for uk? a bit late maybe? 15:13 kidclamp February 13, 19 UTC? 15:12 kidclamp #topic Next meeting 15:11 * ashimema runs to car 15:11 ashimema being that kohacon is eu this time.. I imagine a preference for working hours uk/ireland if we want them to attent the next meeting.. sorry 15:10 * ashimema has to scarper for school run 15:09 ashimema go for it 15:08 kidclamp +1 15:07 cait moving on? 15:07 ashimema +1 15:07 cait +1 15:06 caroline +1 15:06 calire perhaps we just ask if we can have an update at the next meeting :) 15:04 ashimema then friday being the off day 15:04 ashimema then midday wednesday -> thursday afternoon workshops 15:04 ashimema but last I was I 'think' the idea was midday monday -> midday wednesday for conference 15:03 cait #link https://www.surveymonkey.co.uk/r/KV7BGKT 15:03 caroline it says parallel, so conf at the same time as hackfest maybe? and you choose which one you want to go 15:03 ashimema I'm not party to the conversations now 15:02 cait but somehoe 4+1, but not sure how the hackfest and conf parts split 15:02 cait it's not 3-1-3 15:01 caroline what is the new format? 15:00 cait I think the change in format hit us a bit unexpectedly 15:00 cait I think it would be nice to get regular updates during th emeeting sas we have done in the past 15:00 khall #info Kyle M Hall, ByWater Solutions 14:59 barton #info Barton Chittenden, Bywater 14:59 caroline yoohoo! Kohacon! 14:59 ashimema I don't have anything to add 14:59 ashimema we sorta did that i the announcement 14:59 ashimema #topic Kohacon19 Update 14:57 ashimema yeah 14:56 kidclamp moving on? 14:53 kidclamp I updated this, could use some eyes and opinions 14:53 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18736 critical, P5 - low, ---, nick, Signed Off , Problems in order calculations (rounding errors) 14:53 kidclamp oh, bug 18736 14:53 kidclamp that's all for me at the moment 14:52 ashimema cait++ 14:51 cait I've been trying to get into ILL patches, will continue asap 14:51 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17047 new feature, P5 - low, ---, alex.arnaud, Passed QA , Mana Knowledge Base : share data 14:51 kidclamp bug 17047 14:50 kidclamp but will get to acadaemy and bugs asap 14:50 JesseM bug17047 14:50 kidclamp holding off on pushing other things until I work through this 14:50 ashimema ta 14:50 kidclamp all info is on the bug 14:50 ashimema :) 14:50 kidclamp https://mana-kb.koha-community.org/ 14:49 kidclamp once I verify nothing breaks and feature does what it says I will feel satisfied 14:49 ashimema is there a public mana server out there to test against? 14:49 JesseM mana++ 14:49 caroline mana++! 14:49 kidclamp if anyone else wants to take a look or has comments please let me know, I really want this in this cycle and early so we can test 14:48 ashimema `It includes 30 enhancements, 56 bugfixes.` 14:48 kidclamp I am testing Mana currently with an eye toward pushing asap 14:48 ashimema kidclamp++ 14:48 kidclamp thank you all for all the hlep 14:48 kidclamp accounts work has progressed nicely 14:48 kidclamp heh - things are going well so far, catching some bugs and pushign enw things as I can 14:47 ashimema sorry for missing you first time around 14:47 ashimema kidclamp want to step in and update us about 19.05 progress 14:47 wahanui caroline: sorry... 14:47 caroline wahanui: exactly! XD 14:47 cait if it's still broken, i will fix it too :) 14:47 ashimema :) 14:47 wahanui the link is, like, strange, add / at the end 14:47 caroline and the link? 14:46 cait move on? 14:46 cait commen out... 14:45 cait #action cait volunteers to add version column to demo website listing, resort by version, alphabetic, comment non-working 14:45 ashimema understood.. 14:44 cait just something I wouldn't want to change without proposing it formally first :) 14:44 caroline everything you say makes sense! we have nothing to add :) 14:43 cait vote? veto? :) 14:43 cait everyone so quiet 14:42 cait and maybe remove if one is not working at all ? 14:42 cait but i can volunteer to add the version if that's ok with people 14:42 cait all rmaints and rm have accoutns at least 14:41 cait sorry, can't login right now, not before tonight, maybe one of the others can fix it now? 14:40 caroline could you add the / to the link under "try it now" while you're there too? 14:40 JesseM cait I will email the photo to you 14:40 ashimema nope.. for me everything 500 errors 14:39 cait https://koha-community.org/demo/ works for me 14:39 cait https://koha-community.org/ doesn't work? 14:39 cait maybe woudl be good to get it from the photographer - i am German, always worried about rights :) 14:39 JesseM :) 14:39 cait i guess we could 14:38 JesseM Can we add the latest group photo from kohacon2018? 14:38 ashimema 500 errors.. with either url 14:38 ashimema for me kc.org is down 14:38 caroline ok! works with th / at the end! thx cait! 14:38 cait or got to the demo page from nav, needs fixing 14:37 cait caroline: the link is strange, add / at the end 14:37 cait I have no perfect solution - but it seems like something we could improve 14:37 caroline um... trying to look at the page but it's blank... is it because we're all on it at the same time? 14:37 ashimema +1 14:37 cait wecould also sort the newer versions on top, then alphabetic maybe? 14:37 ashimema :) 14:37 cait if people let us know when they update 14:37 ashimema though.. I don't know how often it wuold get updated 14:37 cait more people have website accounts now, so i think we could keep it updated 14:36 ashimema version on the listings would be good in my opinion 14:36 cait because it might be really confusing for people 14:36 ashimema though I did miss the 'next release' section entirely.. oops 14:36 cait I was wondering if we shoudl add the version to the listings 14:36 * ashimema gets confused between dev and general meeting agenda's.. so was following the wiki closely.. no qa section on that 14:35 cait tamil, orex and admin kuhn 14:35 cait i think only 3 out of those have 18.11 14:35 cait and from the list you can't tell 14:35 cait or even 18.05 14:34 ashimema oh.. sorry kidclamp 14:34 cait and when I looked at the demos... I realized we don't have a lot of 18.11 there 14:34 cait so that link is currently broken (oops) but it links to the demo site 14:34 cait Introducing Koha 18.05 Try it now 14:34 cait #link https://koha-community.org/ 14:34 kidclamp I didn't update on next release 14:34 cait on the front page we have 14:33 cait Ok, so before christmas I updated the website a bit 14:33 cait thought it was QA :) 14:33 cait oh 14:33 ashimema all yours 14:33 kidclamp hey, what about me? 14:33 ashimema #topic Website 14:33 cait ok :) 14:33 ashimema your up next on the agenda 14:33 cait yes? 14:32 ashimema cait 14:32 ashimema right.. 14:32 ashimema #info 9 bugfixes for 17.11.x.. on target for 22nd. 14:32 ashimema and frido had to duck out.. but it's all a similar story 14:32 ashimema #info 18.05.x rmaint going steady, also aiming for next release on 22nd 14:31 JesseM Yes. Release is next week 14:31 ashimema 23 bugfixes currently in 18.05.x for next remaint release :) 14:31 JesseM Nothing really. Just moving along nicely 14:30 JesseM #info Jesse Maseto, ByWater 14:30 ashimema anything you want to update us on regarding 18.05.x rmaint? 14:30 cait probably the best test to find the most impossible things 14:30 cait will tell you after ;) 14:30 cait i am doing a presentation on it next week 14:30 JesseM hi sry im here 14:30 ashimema either that or 18.11.x is remarkably bug free.. hehe :) 14:29 ashimema 20 bugfixes.. so it's a little light.. but understandable as it includes a chunk of the post christmas period 14:29 ashimema that's all from me.. 14:28 ashimema #info 18.11.x is currently in string freeze 14:28 kidclamp JesseM: lukeg 14:28 ashimema #info 18.11.x we're all set for 18.11.02 release on 22nd. 14:28 ashimema lol.. the order in the agenda is funny 14:27 cait if you need pointers for the bugs, find me :) 14:27 ashimema #topic Update on releases 14:27 cait yep 14:27 ashimema shall we move on? 14:26 * kidclamp will update on my turn :-) 14:26 cait but ideall we should push them tomorrow (looks at kidclamp) 14:26 ashimema #link https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Catalyst_Academy academy 14:26 caroline ok, if there are any left, i'll let them know, otherwise, they will just S/O as usual 14:26 cait woudl still be great 14:25 cait because of the time difference 14:25 cait caroline: don't stop them, but probably a little too late 14:25 caroline We have 4 interns that do mandatory community work on friday afternoons. would that be too late? 14:24 cait 6 students :) 14:24 cait they were super busy and have fixed a lot of things, usually easy to look at - I think it would mean a lot to them if we can manage to have one pushed of each at least 14:23 cait please sign off and qa on the student's patches 14:23 cait #info Open Source Academy at Catalyst this week 14:23 cait but waht i wanted to say is: 14:23 cait there was a bit of a behind the scenes discussion about the KohaCon schedule I think - be aware it's not the usual format 14:23 cait oh sorry 14:22 ashimema go cait 14:21 ashimema #info Kohacon19 call for speakers is out 14:21 ashimema #link https://www.interleaf.ie/kohacon19/ Kohacon19 site is up 14:20 cait i got something 14:20 kidclamp ^ that 14:20 ashimema request for speakers is out for kohacon19 14:20 ashimema oh.. 14:19 ashimema Nothing to announce from here.. got anything kidclamp? 14:19 cait sorry, got a phone call (great news for a change) 14:19 * ashimema was looking up meetbot commands.. i don't do this often enough 14:19 huginn Current chairs: ashimema cait kidclamp 14:19 ashimema #chair kidclamp 14:19 ashimema #topic Announcements 14:19 kidclamp please 14:18 kidclamp chair me cait>/ 14:18 cait sorry phone 14:17 ashimema did kc.org just go down or is it just me 14:17 ashimema erm. 14:16 kidclamp yes 14:16 ashimema shall we move onto announcements 14:14 fridolin nothing new for RM 17.11 14:14 * fridolin buzy sorry 14:14 calire #info Claire Gravely, BSZ, Germany 14:14 huginn Current chairs: ashimema cait 14:14 cait #chair ashimema 14:13 ashimema :) 14:12 AndrewIsh #info Andrew Isherwood, PTFS Europe 14:12 cait #info Katrin Fischer, BSZ, Germany 14:12 ashimema #info Martin Renvoize, PTFS Europe 14:12 kidclamp thanks cait 14:12 kidclamp #info Nick Clemens, ByWater Solutions 14:12 cait #link https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/General_IRC_meeting_16_January_2019 Agenda 14:12 caroline #info Caroline Cyr La Rose, inLibro, Canada 14:12 ashimema we forgot the general meeting... again ;) 14:12 cait it#s the one we postponed last week 14:12 cait please introduce yourself with #info 14:12 cait #topic Introductions 14:12 kidclamp meeting now? 14:12 kidclamp huh what? 14:11 huginn The meeting name has been set to 'general_irc_meeting_16_january_2019' 14:11 huginn Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 14:11 huginn Meeting started Wed Jan 16 14:11:51 2019 UTC. The chair is cait. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 14:11 cait #startmeeting General IRC Meeting 16 January 2019 14:11 wahanui well, AndrewIsh is ready and waiting to jump on QA comments :) 14:11 ashimema AndrewIsh 14:11 cait heh 14:11 cait who else coudl we stir up? 14:11 ashimema ;) 14:11 ashimema feel free.. kidclamp is around.. even if he is hiding 14:11 cait ping kidclamp fridolin 14:11 ashimema no wonder I was confused 14:11 ashimema lol 14:11 caroline why not 14:10 cait shoud we have the meeting now? 14:10 cait k, it's now 14:10 ashimema oh.. I had it as 2pm UTC 14:10 caroline oh, well there you go! The General is not in the calendar 14:10 ashimema https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=Koha+General+IRC+Meeting&iso=20190116T1400 14:10 wahanui OK, cait. 14:10 cait wahanui: Next meetings is https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Next_IRC_meetings 14:10 wahanui OK, cait. 14:10 cait wahanui: Next meeting is https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Next_IRC_meetings 14:09 calire there are 2 today 14:09 caroline :/ In the calendar it's at 2pm here (and it is now 9am) 14:09 cait it's possible, we moved the general one by a week 14:09 ashimema oh.. my twitter bots keeps piping up that it's in an hour 14:09 cait ok... not completely 14:09 huginn cait: Highest karma: "Joubu" (731), "cait" (661), and "tcohen" (383). Lowest karma: "-" (-48), "failed" (-41), and "ie" (-38). You (cait) are ranked 2 out of 906. 14:09 cait @karma 14:08 cait it seems the bot has amnesia 14:08 cait next meetings? 14:08 caroline ashimema: in 5 hours 14:08 ashimema I'm sure that used to work 14:08 ashimema grr.. huggin 14:08 ashimema meeting? 14:08 ashimema next meeting? 14:08 ashimema next meeting 14:01 cait good morning caroline :) 14:01 caroline good morning everyone! 13:57 cait probably my fault, i tried to explain which i liked better - they took that more literally 13:57 cait oleonard++ # thx for the screenshot :) 13:55 oleonard Sure 13:55 cait could you give some pointers maybe? 13:55 cait I think maybe they didn't know they could jsut do it with css? 13:55 cait i was going to ask you to look 13:55 cait oleonard: you are reading my mind 13:50 oleonard davidnind++ 13:49 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20679 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , Remove 'rows per page' from reports print layout 13:49 oleonard I don't think the patch on Bug 20679 does what the bug asks for, does it cait? 13:35 * oleonard offers to donate blood to splitter.koha-community.org 12:45 calire ashimema++ 12:26 oleonard Hi all 12:21 josef_moravec thank you ashimema! I think I would have testers if there will be something new, but yes, looks like it needs to start again with this... 12:18 ashimema but the bug as it stands I beleive has really reached a stalemate 12:17 ashimema that's all a rough outline at this point though.. it's about finding funding and time now really on our side.. 12:17 ashimema then.. i want to come back to that bug and see how we might achieve their needs atop this new bug 12:16 ashimema so.. bsz have written an RFC to try and cover and explain our use case and then one of us is aiming to write an alternative on an entirely new bug 12:16 ashimema so yeah.. basically the existing bug doesn't really do what the majority of people in the wider world seem to think of as recalls.. bywater, ptfs-e and bsz included at least. 12:15 ashimema back now.. that call for more invovled than I expected 12:15 ashimema right.. sorry.. 12:11 josef_moravec And I don't like the old_recalls table ;) 12:10 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19532 new feature, P3, ---, aleisha, ASSIGNED , Recalls for Koha 12:10 josef_moravec bug 19532 12:10 josef_moravec The use case of this RFC does make sense to me, but I think it should be enhancement of holds funcionality... which is not the case of bug 12:03 josef_moravec https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Recall_RFC 12:03 * ashimema was about to dig that out 12:01 cait josef_moravec: calire put a new rfc on the wiki a few days ago 12:01 ashimema will pm you josef 12:01 ashimema lol.. that bug is a long story 11:57 cait some easy qa? I got some really nice ones! 11:37 josef_moravec ashimema: it could wait ;) 11:37 * ashimema will try to multitask if you wanted to ask something go ahead 11:37 ashimema oh.. phone.. brb 11:37 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19532 new feature, P3, ---, aleisha, ASSIGNED , Recalls for Koha 11:37 josef_moravec do you know what is the difference between recalls and holds here? bug 19532 11:36 josef_moravec hi ashimema 11:36 ashimema hi 11:36 josef_moravec ashimema: around? 10:46 wahanui bonjour, eythian 10:46 eythian hi 09:39 koha-jenkins Project Koha_17.11_D8 build #137: SUCCESS in 31 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_17.11_D8/137/ 08:22 calire hi matts 08:22 wahanui hi, matts 08:22 matts hi 08:14 cait super foggy here right now 08:14 cait i have a list if you need it 08:14 cait ashimema++ thx 08:14 cait ashimema: hm no strings to translate yet 08:14 ashimema School run first though.. looks minging out there 08:14 ashimema I'm on that this morning Cait.. devoting the morning to it before going back to work woke stuff 😆 08:13 ashimema Done 08:12 davidnind working through things that need sign-off from today (I've only done 1 of 7 so far though...) 08:08 cait those kids are crazy fast. 08:08 cait btw... i really need help with those open source academy patches 08:08 cait ashimema: should be an exception tho 08:07 fridolin i'm on no_coffee_yet error ;) 08:07 ashimema Oh pants.. I forgot to send the string freeze email last night.. better wrattle one off now 08:07 fridolin morning ;) 08:06 ashimema Morning fridolins. 08:06 ashimema S/case/cause/ 08:06 fridolin hi 08:05 ashimema Little known thing, QA team can on occasion skip signoff if the patch is sufficiently simple and unlikely to case debate too. 😉 08:04 ashimema Anyone can fail QA, only QA team can pass it 07:44 davidnind too much documentation! :) 07:43 calire ah cool! I was looking and hadn't found that page yet :D 07:42 davidnind Makes better sense now! 07:42 davidnind It's covered here on the wiki https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Bug-enhancement-patch_Workflow 07:39 reiveune hello 07:37 davidnind it's probably in the developer guide - I haven't looked though! :-D 07:36 calire Maybe we could get it clarified 07:35 calire I feel mean too 07:35 davidnind your logic makes sense! (feeling a bit mean for failing something, but I guess it is all part of learning and the benefit of someone else looking at things!) 07:33 calire there is no 'failed sign off' option and if it doesn't work then it wouldn't pass QA, I guess that would be my logic 07:32 calire worst case teh developer will check and change it back to needs signoff 07:31 calire :) 07:31 calire I still find it scary 07:31 calire so did I, but I was told to use it if it doesn't work 07:31 davidnind in this case it does apply, but it doesn't do what it is supposed to do - I thought failed QA was for the QA team... 07:30 davidnind thanks calire! 07:28 calire if it doesn't apply... 07:28 calire or does not apply 07:28 calire davidnind failed QA 07:28 davidnind If the status of a bug is currently 'Needs Signoff' and the patch doesn't work, what do I change the status to when I add my comments? 07:26 magnuse kia ora andreashm and #koha