Time  Nick        Message
02:40 Brun32      Hello everyone, just saw that rtheres a problem in the https://koha-community.org/ website, if someone clicks on "try now" it redirects to a blank page https://koha-community.org/demo
02:40 Brun32      if you click 'demo' on the banner, it resolves to https://koha-community.org/demo/ which actually works
02:41 Brun32      so im not sure who manages that website but user experience is everything, and would be cool if that could be fixed :D
03:10 aleisha_    hi all, can someone please test bug 21637 for mackey :)
03:10 huginn      Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=21637 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, mackeyfj, Needs Signoff , Capitalization: EasyAnalyticalRecords syspref option "Don't Display" should be "Don't display"
03:10 aleisha_    and bug 22011
03:10 huginn      Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=22011 normal, P5 - low, ---, jke0429, Needs Signoff , Typo in Item Batch Modification
06:08 saa         i am geting following error while editing any patron Can't call method "category_type" on an undefined value at /usr/share/koha/intranet/cgi-bin/members/memberentry.pl line 168. how to sort out it
06:33 cait        I neeed some sign-offs! :)
06:33 cait        bug 21866
06:33 huginn      Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=21866 minor, P5 - low, ---, olivialokm, Needs Signoff , Warning: This *report* was written for an older version of Koha. Run at your own risk.
06:33 cait        bug 22054
06:33 huginn      Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=22054 trivial, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Display a nicer error message when trying to renew an on-site checkout from renew page
06:34 cait        bug 22036
06:34 huginn      Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=22036 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jasmineamohia.student, Needs Signoff , Tidy up tags/review script
06:35 cait        bug 21930
06:35 huginn      Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=21930 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jke0429, Needs Signoff , Typo in the manage_circ_rules_from_any_libraries description
06:35 cait        bug 20165
06:35 huginn      Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20165 trivial, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , Capitalization: Street Address should be Street address in patron search options
06:35 cait        bug 22011
06:35 huginn      Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=22011 normal, P5 - low, ---, jke0429, Needs Signoff , Typo in Item Batch Modification
06:36 davidnind   yes ma'am! :)
06:36 davidnind   testing 22011 at the moment...
06:37 davidnind   hi cait!
06:37 cait        hi davidnind :)
06:37 cait        how are you doing? :)
06:40 cait        will be back later from work
06:40 davidnind   good thanks, hope you are well!
06:41 cait        I am... just a little early for me today :)
06:43 davidnind   about to have tea soon! (nearly 8pm), hope you have had breakfast!
06:52 davidnind   @later tell aleisha_ bug 21637 and bug 22011 signed off
06:52 huginn      davidnind: The operation succeeded.
07:11 calire      morning #koha
07:16 davidnind   morning calire!
07:16 calire      hello davidnind :)
07:21 davidnind   nice photo the other day on Koha social - looked rather chilly for a run!
07:24 calire      davidnind, thanks :) it was... not warm
07:24 calire      snow has disappeared again now though
07:30 * cait      waves
07:37 reiveune    hello
07:50 cait        hi all
07:51 cait        hi all, need some sign-offs for the Academy please! :) http://irc.koha-community.org/koha/2019-01-15#i_2110854
07:54 davidnind   bug 21637 and bug 22011 signed off
07:54 huginn      Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=21637 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, mackeyfj, Passed QA , Capitalization: EasyAnalyticalRecords syspref option "Don't Display" should be "Don't display"
07:54 huginn      Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=22011 normal, P5 - low, ---, jke0429, Signed Off , Typo in Item Batch Modification
07:54 davidnind   looking at bug 20165 at the moment
07:54 huginn      Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20165 trivial, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , Capitalization: Street Address should be Street address in patron search options
07:55 alex_a      bonjour
07:55 wahanui     bidet, alex_a
07:55 cait        davidnind++ :)
07:55 cait        bbl.... training this morning
07:56 davidnind   hopefully I can get through a few more before you get back... have fun training!
07:58 calire      davidnind++
07:59 davidnind   :-D
08:11 fridolin    hi
08:24 maya-jan-19 hi
08:26 maya-jan-19 how can we use koha 18.11 as CMS?
08:27 maya-jan-19 as we don't want complications
08:34 maya-jan-19 how can we use koha 18.11 as CMS?
08:52 maya-jan-19 how can we use koha 18.11 as CMS?
09:03 ashimema    mornin' #koha
09:05 ashimema    those all academy bugs per chance cait?
09:11 davidnind   Hi Ashimema. They are - here is the list https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Catalyst_Academy#Day_1
09:11 ashimema    :)
09:11 * ashimema  looks to see if there are any QA's to jump in at the next level.. or have they just been working on easy new code on their first day :)
09:14 davidnind   I've signed off 21637 and 22011, couldn't get 20165 to work so have added a note
09:15 davidnind   starting on 'easy' things I think (although easy is a relative term when everything is new)
09:15 ashimema    hehe.. very true
09:16 ashimema    I know my own interpretation of the academy keyword has a fairly large spectrum.. from string change to 'simple' code problem
09:16 ashimema    things like css changes aren't as simple as they used to be either now :(
09:16 ashimema    having to grapple with getting one's head around the build process and things
09:18 davidnind   there is a lot to learn - I' only really at the stage of sign-off and seeing if things work as they should
09:18 * ashimema  is always happy to mentor ;)
09:20 davidnind   good to have a range from easy to hard - aleisha has done a great job bring together a nice range of things for them to work on
09:20 davidnind   ashimema++
09:30 * andreashm waves
09:30 * calire    waves
09:32 ashimema    :)
09:32 andreashm   hi calire
09:54 cait        ashimema: those were the ones needing so -i thnk some should be ready for qa now
09:55 cait        ashimema: actually i need your help - they signeda lot of my patches, so I can't qa them
09:55 cait        look for last changed on the signed off list, those are pretty much all (with today's date)
09:58 ashimema    ;)
11:04 tcohen      matts++
11:04 matts       :)
11:04 ashimema    ?
11:05 tcohen      he submitted a follow-up to the funds endpoint bug
11:05 tcohen      he
11:05 ashimema    :)
11:05 calire      matts++
11:05 tcohen      ashimema: I've just noticed now that we introduced the /public namespace, we could really enforce staff permissions to *all* existing endpoints, and simplify the code a bit
11:06 matts       lots of ++ today :)
11:07 tcohen      s/could/should/
11:08 tcohen      how's pastis land, matts?
11:08 matts       not so bad (even though I'm more in Beer and wine land :))
11:09 calire      beerLand++
11:09 ashimema    cheeseLand++
11:09 tcohen      wineLand++
11:13 calire      so it's settled, we are all visiting matts?
11:14 ashimema    :)
11:14 ashimema    where is matts these days?
11:14 matts       Of course, come on all :)
11:14 matts       Elsass
11:25 ashimema    that's a lovely bit of france
11:28 * ashimema  looks at map of france and remembers how insane his Uni days were.. man i got some serious milage under me back then
11:57 cait        are the dates set yet?
11:58 ashimema    dates for what?
12:01 cait        for visiting matts
12:01 andreashm   =)
12:01 cait        minicon at matts'?
12:01 cait        bbiab :)
12:33 oleonard    Hi #koha
12:34 * andreashm waves
12:35 calire      hi oleonard
12:35 wahanui     hi oleopard
12:36 oleonard    calire: ^._.^ ^._.^ ^._.^
12:39 calire      :D
12:39 calire      miaow
12:54 cait        still needs some sign-offs please
12:54 cait        bug 21866
12:54 huginn      Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=21866 minor, P5 - low, ---, olivialokm, Needs Signoff , Warning: This *report* was written for an older version of Koha. Run at your own risk.
12:54 cait        bug 22036
12:54 huginn      Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=22036 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jasmineamohia.student, Needs Signoff , Tidy up tags/review script
12:55 cait        open source academy students
13:43 * oleonard  is happy today about Template Toolkit syntax in notices
13:43 oleonard    So very useful.
13:55 caroline    good morning everyone!
14:39 cait        oleonard++ khall+ü
14:40 cait        khall++ even
14:41 cait        can someone help qa the academy patches?
14:41 oleonard    khall + ü = khüll.  \m/
14:41 cait        bug 22054
14:41 huginn      Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=22054 trivial, P5 - low, ---, hickeyhe, Signed Off , Display a nicer error message when trying to renew an on-site checkout from renew page
14:42 cait        bug 22036
14:42 huginn      Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=22036 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jasmineamohia.student, Signed Off , Tidy up tags/review script
14:42 cait        bug 21930
14:42 huginn      Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=21930 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jke0429, Signed Off , Typo in the manage_circ_rules_from_any_libraries description
14:42 cait        bug 22011
14:42 huginn      Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=22011 normal, P5 - low, ---, jke0429, Signed Off , Typo in Item Batch Modification
14:42 cait        ?
15:47 matts       hey tcohen, shouldn't bug 18731 be on NSO instead of Assigned?
15:47 huginn      Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18731 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, ASSIGNED , Add routes for acquisition orders
15:51 tcohen      matts, I had a discussion with Jonathan about the implementation that got me thinking
15:51 tcohen      set it to NSO
15:51 tcohen      or SO even
15:51 tcohen      sorry, NSO is the right onw
15:52 matts       okay, thanks, fixing this.
16:09 tcohen      matts alex_a ashimema khall can I have your eyes on bug 21198 sooner than later?
16:09 huginn      Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=21198 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Needs Signoff , authenticate_api_request should stash the reason access is granted
16:10 matts       tcohen, yes, sure, I'll have a look tomorrow
16:10 matts       tcohen, you forgot jajm :)
16:11 tcohen      jam	can I have your eyes on bug 21198 sooner than later?
16:11 tcohen      :-P
16:12 jajm        tcohen, your keyboard doesn't want me to look at it :)
16:13 cait        tcohen: jajm: i need some qa plz? ;)
16:14 cait        easy ones, promised
16:16 * ashimema  is somewhat tied up at the minute.. but will read back here and try to pick off as many of the requested qa's as he can this evening if they've not already been done
16:17 jajm        cait, i think i will be able to do some qa before the end of the week
16:17 cait        jajm: that#s great :)
16:17 cait        just looking for real quick ones for the open source academy students
16:17 cait        they will only be around until nz friday (our thursday)
16:25 cait        bug 22011, bug 21930, bug 22036, bug 22054
16:26 huginn      Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=22011 normal, P5 - low, ---, jke0429, Signed Off , Typo in Item Batch Modification
16:26 huginn      Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=21930 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jke0429, Signed Off , Typo in the manage_circ_rules_from_any_libraries description
16:26 huginn      Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=22036 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jasmineamohia.student, Signed Off , Tidy up tags/review script
16:26 huginn      Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=22054 trivial, P5 - low, ---, hickeyhe, Signed Off , Display a nicer error message when trying to renew an on-site checkout from renew page
16:28 tcohen      oleonard: you might fancy checking bug 22132, it will make playing with the API and POstman easier
16:28 huginn      Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=22132 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , Add Basic authentication
16:29 oleonard    Thanks tcohen
16:40 reiveune    bye
16:50 cait        oleonard++ you make me happy :)
16:54 oleonard    Aw! cait, I'm glad to be on the team with you!
17:09 cait        :)
17:28 Vero        hi
17:36 cait        bye all
18:18 tcohen      terminology
18:18 tcohen      terminology?
18:20 oleonard    Terminology? https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Terminology
18:20 cait        tcohen++ :)
18:21 cait        Terminology is https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Terminology
18:21 cait        Terminology?
18:21 wahanui     Terminology is https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Terminology
18:24 tcohen      why did wahanui forget that?
18:26 oleonard    He forgot my birthday too, so rude.
19:02 oleonard    The graph for Bug 20654 is looking good
19:02 huginn      Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20654 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Omnibus: Update two-column templates to use Bootstrap grid
19:02 oleonard    https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/showdependencygraph.cgi?id=20654&display=tree&rankdir=RL
19:19 rangi       morning
19:19 rangi       that is looking good
19:20 ashimema    Nice graph
19:23 rangi       https://twitter.com/ranginui/status/1085255960501710848
19:23 rangi       im at this point in my presentation writing
19:23 barton      does anyone know if work is being done to display cover images for records that do not have ISBNs? (e.g. CD/DVD/Blueray)? I searched bugzilla for 'image' and 'cover' and didn't see anything, but it's a subject that comes up on a fairly regular basis at ByWater, and everyone is like yeah, it's in bug .... uh ... ? ... ???
19:24 rangi       barton: no one really has becasue there is no really reliable/useful way to do it
19:25 rangi       i mean you can use ASIN, but do we really want to tie ourselves to the cryptofacists amazon anymore than we already do? ;)
19:25 barton      @rangi, nod. I think that we could use amazon ID numbers, but I don't think that they're generally used in cataloging.
19:25 huginn      barton: downloading the Perl source
19:25 rangi       snap ;)
19:26 barton      yeah. and I totally agree with your analysis.
19:27 rangi       EAN maybe?
19:27 rangi       but I dont think that captchas much outside of europe
19:28 barton      hm. interesting idea. Or how 'bout KIN? (Koha image number -- the new standard :-)
19:28 rangi       heh captures
19:29 rangi       :) thats a good idea, the only thing would be copyright. Technology wise we could use mana-kb for people to upload images then we could store the KIN, plus a UPC, EAN, ISBN anything else we might have to allow discovering
19:29 rangi       it'd just be that the publishers would be all, you can't do that!
19:30 oleonard    Oh, is there precedent for that rangi?
19:31 rangi       oleonard: i've always found the strong copyright lobby to be perfectly reasonable in their approach
19:31 oleonard    Sure :) What I mean is, do you know of a case where copyright was used to shut down collection of data like UPC, etc?
19:31 rangi       oh i more meant the images themselves
19:32 rangi       naw we could allow the crosswalk
19:32 barton      @rangi oh, thanks, I needed a *REALLY* good laugh. :-D
19:32 huginn      barton: I'll give you the answer just as soon as RDA is ready
19:32 wahanui     i already had it that way, huginn.
19:33 rangi       so yeah we could do something like the XISBN thing used to do, given a UPC or EAN or ASIN, give back a KIN and vice versa
19:33 rangi       but it'd still be where do we get the image from
19:35 * oleonard  whispers The Dark Web
19:35 rangi       heh
19:36 ashimema    We used EAN in rebus:list and coce with mostly Amazon feeding it.. but I didn't really like it much for all the reasons your said
19:37 rangi       i wonder how openlibrary are going
19:37 rangi       they were starting to get a good book cover library going, i dont know if they have done anything other than books though
19:38 barton      @rangi I'll take a peek.
19:38 huginn      barton: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready
19:38 wahanui     i already had it that way, huginn.
19:38 rangi       https://openlibrary.org/dev/docs/api/covers
19:38 cait        not easily here
19:38 cait        covers have copyright
19:39 cait        i mean uploading yourself... not sure about how it's legally
19:39 cait        should read all the conversation first
19:39 rangi       hehe
19:40 oleonard    barton: huginn is complaining to you because he doesn't like it when you put @ before someone's name
19:40 oleonard    I'm complaining because no matter what cait says we still can't upload ourselves. Stupid meat space.
19:41 barton      ah. damn #slack for messing with my muscle memory.
19:41 cait        huh?
19:41 * cait      might be just too tired after too many meetings today
19:41 cait        sorry if i not make sense
19:42 oleonard    cait: I'm just playing on the phrase "upload yourself" to mean uploading my consciousness to a computer
19:42 cait        oh
19:43 cait        i didn't get that :)
19:50 cait        hi AndrewIsh - it's late! :)
19:50 AndrewIsh   Hi cait - it is! But luckily I'm not working ;-)
19:52 cait        just hanging out with us? :)
19:54 rangi       speaking of images
19:54 rangi       do people all know of https://unsplash.com/
19:55 oleonard    I didn't. Neat.
19:56 cait        wb jasmine!
19:57 cait        @wunder Konstanz
19:57 huginn      cait: Konstanz, Germany :: Partly Cloudy :: 35F/2C | Wind Chill: 31F/-1C | Tuesday: Partly cloudy. Lows overnight in the upper 20s. Tuesday Night: Partly cloudy skies. Widespread frost likely. Low 27F. Winds light and variable.
19:57 AndrewIsh   cait: Of course! Actually, I'm trying to figure out how to upgrade a private VPS from PHP 5.6 to 7.2 without killing all the Wordpress sites hosted on it. Living the dream, living the dream...
19:58 cait        sounds fun
19:58 cait        i'll keep my fingers crossed for you
19:58 cait        that will also give me an excuse not to fold the laundry
19:58 barton      Just tried http://covers.openlibrary.org/b/lccn/no2017049427-S.jpg ... that's the LCCN for _Guardians of the Galaxy, Part 2_ ... no love.
20:25 * andreashm waves
20:30 * cait      waves
20:31 * caroline  waves
20:33 vero        show results of the library to which the user is associated, thanks
20:34 caroline    vero: in OPAC or staff interface?
20:38 vero        OPAC
20:41 caroline    I don't think that's possible. I only know of "IndependentBranches", but that only limits the modification of items from staff from other libraries
20:50 vero        thanks
21:55 aleisha_    lots of patches coming through academy today!
21:56 aleisha_    thanks davidnind[m] for testing a few yesterday
21:56 aleisha_    i will just put them here in case anyone feels like testing some
21:56 aleisha_    bug 20165
21:56 huginn      Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20165 trivial, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , Capitalization: Street Address should be Street address in patron search options
21:56 aleisha_    bug 22029
21:56 huginn      Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=22029 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, hickeyhe, Needs Signoff , Remove Google+ from social links on OPAC detail
21:56 aleisha_    bug 20865
21:56 huginn      Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20865 trivial, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , Remove space before : on order receive filters
21:57 aleisha_    bug 20634
21:57 huginn      Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20634 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , Inventory form has 2 identical lables "Library:"
21:57 aleisha_    bug 20569
21:57 huginn      Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20569 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Improve description of CheckPrevCheckout system preference
21:57 aleisha_    bug 22095
21:57 huginn      Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=22095 minor, P5 - low, ---, ethan.amohia, Needs Signoff , Dead link in web installer
22:04 rangi       hi paul_p
22:11 cait        bye all
22:50 caroline    good night everybody!