Time  Nick         Message
05:58 fridolin     hi
05:58 wahanui      bidet, fridolin
07:20 magnuse      \o/
07:34 koha-jenkins Project Koha_17.11_D8 build #136: SUCCESS in 31 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_17.11_D8/136/
07:40 reiveune     hello
07:58 alex_a       bonjour
09:10 cait         hm no marcelr
09:35 tcohen       bonjour
09:45 * andreashm  waves
09:51 * cait       waves back
09:51 cait         happy new year andreashm
09:52 andreashm    happy new year cait
09:53 cait         bit late... but better late than never :)
09:53 magnuse      hiya cait tcohen andreashm
09:53 cait         the job shadowing is a cool idea btw
09:53 magnuse      yup!
09:53 magnuse      swedish_koha_network++
09:55 andreashm    cait: =)
09:56 andreashm    it is a good idea. very popular too, many who take the chance to go see how others work with Koha
09:57 cait         maybe something for the newsletter? :)
09:57 ashimema     ?
09:57 ashimema     did I miss something
09:57 andreashm    has anyone solved the silent printing issue? previously you could use the firefox extension jsPrintSetup, and some JS to send the printouts directly to the printer (without dialog), but that doesnt work anymore.
09:58 cait         ashimema: it was all swedish :)
09:58 ashimema     btw.. I'm just discussing user group meeting with the boss man here.. seeing if I can do it on company time vs taking leave.. being a bit cheeky.. should reply soon
09:58 ashimema     sorry for the delay
09:58 andreashm    cait: yeah, probably a good idea. we should send more of what we do to the newsletter... just so little time.
09:58 cait         andreashm: there is a bug with a longer discussion on it- my understanding is that it's an issueof the browsers
09:58 andreashm    ashimema: cool, thanks for the update!
09:59 ashimema     it's a security 'feature' I'm afraid andreashm
09:59 andreashm    cait: yeah, it is.
09:59 andreashm    ashimema: yeah, I know.
09:59 ashimema     it does make sense that a browser can't print without a dialogue.. but it is annoying
09:59 cait         i am not sure if it makes so much sense in the era of having everything web based
09:59 cait         a way to allow it for certain things would be nice
10:00 andreashm    Was just wondering how others to it. I'm sure a lot of other large libraries don't fancy clicking a print dialog everytime a recipt is printed?
10:00 ashimema     we face the same fun question ocassionally but haven't really found a good solution either..
10:00 ashimema     we're also struggling to find a way of opening up a cash till drawer
10:00 ashimema     qz tray seemed to be the only thing available
10:01 andreashm    ashimema: is that working?
10:02 andreashm    I was going to investigate qz tray, since I saw it mentioned on the silent_print bug
10:02 andreashm    bug 19637
10:02 huginn       Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19637 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , jsPrintSetup not supported in Firefox Quantum
10:03 ashimema     it does.. but it's a pain as you have to install it on all computers in the library
10:03 ashimema     and install certificates to ensure it's secure I think
10:03 andreashm    I've heard of another Swedish library working on a solution for creating PDFs of the print and sending to the printer server-side. But don't think they are finished yet, so am looking at other options.
10:05 andreashm    ashimema: well, the jsprintsetup add-on needed to be installed on all computers as well. so maybe might work as a quick (ha!) fix.
10:05 ashimema     hehe
10:05 tcohen       we could do it server side, using Google Cloud Print
10:05 ashimema     that would work.. I think
10:05 ashimema     good idea tcoehn
10:05 ashimema     tcohen  even
10:06 ashimema     we needed qa tray for the till drawer opening as much as anything else
10:09 andreashm    tcohen: google cloud print?
10:09 * andreashm  goes to google it (ha! again)
10:12 cait         ew google
10:12 cait         that#s personal data you are sending to a web service?
10:13 cait         not sure how that works... but thinking about the info we print on slips and the like not sure i want to send it through the internet
10:15 andreashm    yeah, might be an issue
10:16 ashimema     it's a hard problem to solve :(
10:19 cait         googling for privacy and google print service doesn't make me want to write the GDPR docs for that ;)
10:22 * cait       sends cookies
10:38 tcohen       it is just an idea
10:38 tcohen       it might serve some people
10:38 tcohen       and not others
10:38 tcohen       printer vendors have their own tools too, for internet printing
10:38 andreashm    ideas are good!
10:38 tcohen       HP, Epson, etc
10:39 * ashimema   goes for tea
10:40 cait         some ILs send email to printers
10:41 cait         but you often need special software i think to do the print queues
10:41 cait         and there can be delays
10:42 ashimema     indeed
10:43 ashimema     POS (Point Of Sale) is just notoriously challenging to do from a browser.. but not impossible)
10:52 * kidclamp   waves
10:53 * calire     waves
12:23 oleonard     Hi #koha
12:37 calire       hi oleonard
12:37 wahanui      hi oleopard
12:54 ashimema     Joubu about?
13:01 cait         @seen Joubu
13:01 huginn       cait: Joubu was last seen in #koha 2 weeks, 3 days, 22 hours, 39 minutes, and 28 seconds ago: <Joubu> JesseM: 18.05_D8 is green! I am starting manually the runs for D9 and U18 right now
13:01 ashimema     yowsers
13:01 ashimema     I sorted it anyhows to don't need him ;)
13:03 cait         ere++
13:03 cait         #mailing list mail
13:03 cait         also ashimema++ # elasticsearch review :)
13:04 cait         @karma
13:04 huginn       cait: Highest karma: "Joubu" (731), "cait" (656), and "tcohen" (382).  Lowest karma: "-" (-48), "failed" (-40), and "ie" (-38).  You (cait) are ranked 2 out of 903.
13:05 ashimema     totally ere++ on that
13:05 ashimema     @karma
13:05 huginn       ashimema: Highest karma: "Joubu" (731), "cait" (656), and "tcohen" (382).  Lowest karma: "-" (-48), "failed" (-40), and "ie" (-38).  You (ashimema) are ranked 5 out of 903.
13:05 ashimema     @karma ashimema
13:05 huginn       ashimema: Karma for "ashimema" has been increased 269 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 269.
13:06 ashimema     blimey.. fair bit of catching up still to do if I want to get in reach of you three eager beavers at the top :P
13:09 oleonard     ashimema I think you'll find that Brexit has already greatly devalued your karma. You probably couldn't get a can of beans with it now.
13:09 ashimema     very true
13:09 ashimema     but then I image trump has done similar for yours ;)
13:11 oleonard     I traded all my karma for this tiny American flag which was made in China
13:11 ashimema     lol
13:37 eythian      hi
13:37 oleonard     Hi eythian
13:38 tcohen       hi eythian
13:52 * caroline   waves
13:53 * calire     waves
13:59 magnuse      ~~~
13:59 tcohen       hi caroline magnuse calire
14:00 calire       hey tcohen
14:03 eythian      calire: I'm concerned that your typoed nickname is normalising the misspelling of that name for me.
14:04 calire       ;)
14:04 tcohen       language evolution
14:04 eythian      One day I'm going to get stuck spelling it wrong if I end up working with a claire here.
14:04 calire       It's the typo I used to always make when signing off emails
14:05 eythian      Mine - and I've seen others do this too - is "robing"
14:05 eythian      because -ing is pretty much a reflex.
14:05 calire       nice
14:12 oleonard     "Robing" is so much less commonly used than "disrobing"
14:13 eythian      for better or for worse.
16:05 huginn       News from kohagit: Bug 21813: Compiled CSS <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a03eed982bdd28a49f688c742d9e28a780ef12a6>
16:05 huginn       News from kohagit: Bug 22030: DBRev <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=70abd7698f02a7da791490607f43df9f781390d2>
16:05 huginn       News from kohagit: Bug 22059: Fix exception params in Koha::Patron->set_password <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=4d671103f420f1c0b80bcbf13be613b69e2aa4f9>
16:05 huginn       News from kohagit: Bug 22059: regression tests <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=3ef3ecfe99e219fda854ca57c652e3c52a7f47d7>
16:05 huginn       News from kohagit: Bug 22052: Refactor DeleteExpiredOpacReigstrations <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b32756a5d7819e13290c2a145f3f0009280785c4>
16:05 huginn       News from kohagit: Bug 22052: Unit tests <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=f44e37b201d0a8b95b1eee0ac0766bed9c386fc2>
16:05 huginn       News from kohagit: Bug 21786: (QA follow-up) library_id can be null <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=986a52d718d4219f32a79a045d5867a3d70092d5>
16:05 huginn       News from kohagit: Bug 22030: Use preference to determine username sent to overdrive <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=96adab7af8999da7f351169e1265d4be5e59742f>
16:05 huginn       News from kohagit: Bug 21605: (follow-up) Simple ternary boolean to number conversion <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=482b323da1e18324941963359b9a1bd96f297c44>
16:05 huginn       News from kohagit: Bug 21813: In-page JavaScript causes error on patron entry page <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=3607fdfe7966b4db8cb69331f097278d09363fd2>
16:05 huginn       News from kohagit: Bug 21786: Add library_id to the spec definitions <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=55f042762939755537a3b9a4b578d55ff9c517ba>
16:05 huginn       News from kohagit: Bug 21786: Make balance and credits endpoints handle library_id <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=814078ab401900a118558b828a9dc796c9a81c87>
16:05 huginn       News from kohagit: Bug 21786: Unit tests <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=4c742b59f75cf56a844b0b8eed1b15a0313a7783>
16:05 huginn       News from kohagit: Bug 21605: Ensure EDI acct fields set to boolean val <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=c9c3fc4368ee9d37a45c48167d25d5cee511898b>
16:24 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_U18 build #123: SUCCESS in 29 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U18/123/
16:32 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9 build #636: SUCCESS in 33 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9/636/
16:35 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D8 build #145: SUCCESS in 37 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D8/145/
17:04 reiveune     bye
19:25 * oleonard   tries again with Bug 21751
19:25 huginn       Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=21751 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , fixFloat toolbar not displaying properly in Chrome
20:11 caroline     Hi native english speakers! :) Would you say that "Opened" is a good alternative to "Open" in the sense of "the state of being open"?
20:12 caroline     Since Open is both a state and a verb, it causes problems in the french translation
20:14 rangi        whats the context caroline, can you use it in a sentence?
20:15 caroline     rangi: right now I'm on serials-search.pl
20:15 caroline     It's not really in a sentence, it a tab
20:15 caroline     There's an "Open" tab and a "Closed" tab
20:15 rangi        opened and open arent always the same, depending on the tense
20:15 rangi        something can have been opened, but not currently be open
20:15 rangi        if that makes sense?
20:16 caroline     Ok so maybe for that one we could change it to something like "ongoing"?
20:16 rangi        that would work better
20:16 rangi        in progress
20:16 rangi        ongoing
20:16 rangi        either of those
20:53 * andreashm  waves
20:53 andreashm    ere++
20:54 caroline     hi andreashm!
20:54 andreashm    hi caroline!
20:54 andreashm    how's Canada?
20:54 caroline     snowy
20:54 caroline     how's stockholm?
20:54 andreashm    same here
20:54 andreashm    snow mixed with rain actually. not the most fun weather
20:55 caroline     so far the winter has been pretty mild here (we had a brown christmas), but since monday, it's always -14 and snow
20:56 caroline     huginn is going to make me lie...
20:56 huginn       caroline: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready
20:56 wahanui      i already had it that way, huginn.
20:56 caroline     @wunder Montreal, Canada
20:57 andreashm    white x-mas here, but since the weather has been bad. had a severe storm, that caused som major problems. we had a power outage for three days. so many trees knocked over it took the power companies a long time to repair. so parts a bit further north still has no power.
20:57 caroline     @wunder Montreal, Quebec
20:57 andreashm    @wunder stockholm
20:57 caroline     wow that's bad!
20:57 caroline     I think wunder is broken
20:57 andreashm    seems so
20:57 caroline     (I meant that's bad about the storm not wunder)
20:58 andreashm    hehe
20:58 caroline     was it an ice storm or a snow storm?
21:00 andreashm    some rain, mostly very heavy winds
21:02 rangi        @wunder nzwn
21:03 huginn       caroline: Error: I could not find a valid location for: Montreal, Canada
21:03 caroline     oh huginn is waking up
21:03 andreashm    hi rangi!
21:04 caroline     @wunder Montreal, Quebec
21:08 rangi        hi andreashm
21:09 huginn       caroline: Error: I could not find a valid location for: Montreal, Quebec
21:11 andreashm    @wunder anywhere
21:12 caroline     hehe!
21:16 huginn       andreashm: Error: I could not find a valid location for: stockholm
21:17 huginn       rangi: Wellington International, New Zealand :: Clear :: 70F/21C | Wednesday: Sunshine early followed by partly cloudy skies and gusty winds this afternoon. High 73F. NNW winds at 10 to 15 mph, increasing to 20 to 30 mph. Winds could occasionally gust over 40 mph. Wednesday Night: Windy. Showers developing overnight. Low near 65F. Winds NNW at 20 to 30 mph. Chance of rain 50%. Winds could (1 more message)
21:17 huginn       caroline: Error: I could not find a valid location for: Montreal, Quebec
21:17 huginn       andreashm: Error: I could not find a valid location for: anywhere
21:22 rangi        @wunder
21:22 huginn       rangi: Wellington International, New Zealand :: Clear :: 70F/21C | Wednesday: Wind increasing. A mix of clouds and sun. High 73F. NNW winds at 10 to 15 mph, increasing to 20 to 30 mph. Winds could occasionally gust over 40 mph. Wednesday Night: Windy. Showers developing overnight. Low near 65F. Winds NNW at 20 to 30 mph. Chance of rain 50%. Winds could occasionally gust over 40 mph.
21:25 rangi        @wunder cyul
21:25 huginn       rangi: Montreal-Pierre Elliott Trudeau Int'l Airport, Quebec :: Fog :: 34F/1C | Wind Chill: 28F/-2C | Tuesday: Rain and snow. Lows overnight in the low 30s. Tuesday Night: Cloudy with rain and snow this evening. Snow showers overnight. Some mixed winter precipitation possible. Low 32F. Winds ENE at 10 to 15 mph. Chance of precip 80%. Snow accumulations less than one inch.
21:33 andreashm    bye #koha
22:32 enoch_pi     soooooo for those that care...koha runs pretty dern saweet on raspberry pi B+ w/Stretch
22:33 caroline     awesome!
22:37 enoch_pi     :-) thanks to rangi and cait it was possible to build and test...i am running plack and memcache and it is now running better than when i had it on the laptop for testing
22:45 enoch_pi     has anyone created a registration page where a patron can 'register' and then staff can approve/disapprove it?
22:46 caroline     There is the auto registration function in Koha.
22:46 caroline     I think you have to activate it in sys prefs
22:46 caroline     PatronSelfRegistration
22:47 caroline     If you go in Administration > Global system preferences > OPAC there is a whole section
22:47 caroline     is that what you were looking for?
22:48 enoch_pi     i believe so. basically it will allow a patron to register/create their account? I am not near my Koha so i can not look at it right now
22:48 caroline     Yes they will be able to create a temporary account, and then a notification will appear on the staff main screen to confirm
22:49 enoch_pi     gotcha! that is what I am looking for! I will check into that when i get the chance
22:49 caroline     +1!
22:49 enoch_pi     thank you caroline
22:50 caroline     no prob :)
22:50 enoch_pi     i was dreading the perl code lol
22:50 caroline     someone already did it for you :)
22:50 enoch_pi     thank gawds!! LOL
22:50 enoch_pi     how us your day?
22:51 enoch_pi     is*
22:51 caroline     so busy I'm dizzy @_@
22:52 caroline     getting ready to go pet some cats at the shelter to de stress :)
22:54 caroline     good night all!
23:55 koha-jenkins Project Koha_18.05_D8 build #164: SUCCESS in 24 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_18.05_D8/164/
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