Time Nick Message 23:30 caroline good night! 21:06 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8426 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Needs Signoff , Diacritics not being mapped for searching (Non-ICU) 21:06 kidclamp bug 8426 would be cool to have 20:58 TGoat I think it was Katico?? 20:58 TGoat the app for devices 20:58 TGoat hey, can anyone tell the name of the PlayStore Koha app? 20:57 TGoat hello koha channel 20:00 Joubu +-------------------+-------------------+ 20:00 Joubu | 2433 | 11764 | 20:00 Joubu +-------------------+-------------------+ 20:00 Joubu | length(imagefile) | length(thumbnail) | 20:00 Joubu +-------------------+-------------------+ 20:00 Joubu MariaDB [koha_kohadev]> select length(imagefile), length(thumbnail) from biblioimages; 19:59 Joubu yep, confirmed with koha-logo.png: 19:59 oleonard I'll try again tomorrow. Bye all 19:58 Joubu nope 19:57 Joubu oleonard: iirc I recreated with koha-logo.png 19:40 oleonard (as far as I can tell?) 19:40 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=21987 normal, P3, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Local cover 'thumbnail' size is bigger than 'imagefile' size in biblioimages table 19:40 oleonard Joubu: Unfortunately I can't reproduce the problem described in Bug 21987 19:23 koha-jenkins Project Koha_18.05_D9 build #144: STILL UNSTABLE in 32 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_18.05_D9/144/ 19:17 ashimema And get Joubu's thoughts on what we might want to do to improve collaboration/communication otherwise 19:15 ashimema Hoping to have a bit more time over Xmas to really consider how I wanted to promote and use it as a tool 19:15 ashimema Oh cool, well done and thanks 19:09 rangi oh nothing important was just saying i got the spaces working in the kanban i escape them to __ on the way in, and back out on the way back out 19:09 ashimema Dreaming.. even 19:09 ashimema Fire away 😀, girls are now happily in bed looking forward to seeing about the mad world's in Alice's head.. amazing that both my 3 year old and my 9 year old like those stories 19:02 rangi :) 19:02 ashimema As does Alice all the way from wonderland 19:02 ashimema Millie says hi back 19:01 oleonard Hi rangi and ashimema's kids 19:00 ashimema Just reading bedtime stories.. be back in a few minutes 18:57 koha-jenkins Project Koha_18.05_U18 build #147: STILL UNSTABLE in 29 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_18.05_U18/147/ 18:51 koha-jenkins Project Koha_18.05_D8 build #147: STILL UNSTABLE in 29 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_18.05_D8/147/ 18:41 rangi ashimema: you about? 18:34 Joubu I wanted Andreas to confirm it fixes his issue. But I can provide a test plan, yes 18:32 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=21987 normal, P3, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Local cover 'thumbnail' size is bigger than 'imagefile' size in biblioimages table 18:32 oleonard Joubu: Could you please add a test plan to Bug 21987? 18:27 JesseM I hope not 18:27 Joubu ;) 18:27 Joubu JesseM: did you break everything again? 18:26 Joubu JesseM: https://gitlab.com/koha-community/koha-testing-docker/issues/103 # This is the issue to track 18:26 Joubu JesseM: more or less. I did a PR on koha-testing-docker, it needs to be merged 18:24 JesseM Joubu: Are you fixing memcached on Jenkins? 17:49 Joubu thd: I do not see why/how it could be a problem for us 17:03 Nemo_bis kohaputti: create_analytical_rel.pl 16:55 koha-jenkins Project Koha_17.11_D8 build #130: SUCCESS in 31 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_17.11_D8/130/ 16:46 koha-jenkins Project Koha_18.05_D8 build #146: STILL UNSTABLE in 23 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_18.05_D8/146/ 16:42 oleonard I managed to miss the meeting without getting all the things assigned to me? 16:24 koha-jenkins Project Koha_18.05_U18 build #146: STILL UNSTABLE in 31 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_18.05_U18/146/ 16:23 koha-jenkins Project Koha_18.05_D9 build #143: STILL UNSTABLE in 29 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_18.05_D9/143/ 16:02 reiveune bye 15:39 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=21905 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle, RESOLVED FIXED, Plugin hook intranet_catalog_biblio_enhancements_toolbar_button incorrectly filtered 15:39 fridolin JesseM: You must say you reverted on Bug 21905 15:24 thd Joubu: Beware of people developing gitlab currently using an open core model where some features remain proprietary. 15:15 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12345 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Can't Clear Reading History for Anonymous patron 15:15 Joubu https://tree.taiga.io/project/joubu-koha-rm-1711/wiki/about - "The status (column) of cards representing a bug from bugzilla (starts with "Bug 12345") will be updated automatically." 15:14 thd Very good :) 15:14 Joubu thd: I wrote a script to update the kanban depending on the bz statuses 15:14 cait y 15:14 cait ... and I can't type toda 15:13 cait i was hoping we could push it to 18.11.1 till, but not sure if that#s realisitc 15:13 cait ok thx! 15:13 Joubu cait: yes, it's on my list 15:12 thd https://tree.taiga.io/support/integrations/webhooks/ 15:12 thd Joubu, ashimema: Have you considered the possibility of having each tool do what it is best at and integrate between them allowing bugs to be added to bugzilla and integrated with taigo automatically? 15:12 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=22024 major, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Needs Signoff , Update translated web installer files with new class splitting rules 15:12 cait Bug 22024 15:11 cait ? 15:11 cait Joubu: did you see yesterday's web installer bugß 14:56 kidclamp thanks all! 14:54 ashimema just in time for me to do the school run :) 14:53 ashimema thanks all 14:53 ashimema awsome 14:53 Joubu it will pick the last one 14:53 kidclamp can you fix the time like that joubu? I thought the script got confused? 14:52 huginn Log: http://meetings.koha-community.org/2018/development_irc_meeting_19_december_2018.2018-12-19-14.00.log.html 14:52 huginn Minutes (text): http://meetings.koha-community.org/2018/development_irc_meeting_19_december_2018.2018-12-19-14.00.txt 14:52 huginn Minutes: http://meetings.koha-community.org/2018/development_irc_meeting_19_december_2018.2018-12-19-14.00.html 14:52 huginn Meeting ended Wed Dec 19 14:52:58 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) 14:52 kidclamp #endmeeting 14:52 Joubu end? 14:52 Joubu #info Next meeting: 16 January 2019, 19 UTC 14:50 * ashimema got confused 14:50 ashimema sory.. 14:50 kidclamp heh, sorry 14:50 ashimema do 19 UTC? 14:50 kidclamp #info Next meeting: 16 January 2019, 20 UTC 14:50 ashimema before would work better 14:49 ashimema before or after works for me 14:49 cait works for me 14:49 ashimema +1 14:49 kidclamp 16th? 14:48 kidclamp oh, that is general meeting 14:48 kidclamp three weeks because of new year 14:48 kidclamp January 9 2019, 20 UTC? 14:47 kidclamp #topic Set time of next meeting 14:46 ashimema :) 14:46 kidclamp I don't think we have anything in guidelines to review? 14:46 kidclamp :-) 14:44 kidclamp moo 14:44 ashimema moing on 14:44 kidclamp #topic Review of coding guidelines 14:43 ashimema sure 14:43 kidclamp okay, moving on, will you send an email ashimema ? 14:43 ashimema but either way.. as we're using Mojo::Base in all REST classes then we don't need the extra noise of Modern::Perl as Mojo::Base turns on all the same pragmas 14:42 ashimema so yeah.. if we decided that we should update the release tools (I can do that) 14:42 Joubu we can move on and continue the discussion on the bug report, or ML thread 14:42 thd Good :) 14:42 ashimema for LTS thd 14:42 ashimema so.. 5.20.2 14:41 Joubu all the info is on the koha-devel topic 14:41 thd What version of Perl is in Long Term Stable? 14:40 Joubu and koha-devel topic "Koha now requires Perl 5.20" from April 2018 14:40 ashimema 5.20 is a safe bet these days.. don't know of any distros older than that 14:39 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20104 trivial, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, CLOSED INVALID, Update minimum version of Perl to 5.20 because of caller() 14:39 Joubu I was refering to bug 20104 14:39 ashimema [off] poo 14:39 Joubu ashimema: actually we did not, the patch has been reverted 14:38 ashimema we should update the release-tools template to state that :) 14:38 cait #link https://koha-community.org/koha-18-11-release/ Perl version requirement 14:38 ashimema so you say we made the decision to up to 5.20 2y back did we Joubu 14:37 ashimema I knew I'd picked it out from somewhere 14:37 ashimema not the about page 14:37 ashimema that's where I saw it 14:37 cait Release notes state Perl 5.10 is required 14:37 cait #info Katrin Fischer, BSZ, Germany 14:37 cait sorry for being late 14:37 ashimema nope.. still on 14:36 kidclamp not yet :-) 14:36 ashimema hi cait 14:36 cait meeting over? 14:36 * ashimema would love that to change too 14:36 Joubu 5.20 since 2 y 14:36 ashimema and as such we can't use any features introduced since 5.10 ;) 14:36 ashimema we require 5.10.. with conversely means we're commited to supporting back to 5.10 14:35 ashimema it's right there on the about page 14:35 Joubu "we limit ourselves to supporting perl 5.10" hum? 14:34 ashimema and adding a corresponding guidline to allow through qa in this case (as right now we require Modern::Perl I believe) 14:33 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=22026 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Remove `use Modern::Perl` from Koha::REST::classes 14:33 ashimema I also seek agreement to bug 22026 14:32 thd #info Thomas Dukleth, Agogme, visiting California 14:32 Joubu #info We need opinions, remarks, counter-patches, etc. on bug 21610. That's a big changes that need to see approved/rejected by the dev team. It also blocks the implementation of bug 21761. 14:31 ashimema need a clear head to contemplate it 14:31 ashimema I intend to pick back up on that one over xmas when heopfully I have a bit less on my plate 14:30 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=21761 critical, P1 - high, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Koha::Object supports passing through 'update' which means we can side step 'set' + 'store' 14:30 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=21610 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, In Discussion , Koha::Object->store needs to handle incorrect values 14:30 Joubu We need opinions, remarks, counter-patches, etc. on bug 21610. That's a big changes that need to see approved/rejected by the dev team. It also blocks the implementation of bug 21761. 14:30 Joubu I would like to highlight: 14:29 kidclamp but nothing to share at the moment 14:29 kidclamp I am looking at things, hoping to find a good path 14:29 ashimema ? 14:29 ashimema kidclamp has some ideas for the new year too I believe 14:28 Joubu moved* 14:28 Joubu we move our side-projects to gitlab, and ask people to open issues there :) 14:28 ashimema as i said.. early thoughts at the moment.. and I wanted to catch you in particular to see what your goals are ;) 14:28 Joubu I would be happy to help improving it if needed, but it will not answer my needs 14:27 ashimema perhaps.. but then perhaps we could start using bz to track more than just bugs.. 14:27 Joubu which will limit its utility 14:26 Joubu I told it yesterday already: IMO the big issue of that tool is that it only supports bug reports 14:26 koha-jenkins Project Koha_17.11_D8 build #129: SUCCESS in 28 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_17.11_D8/129/ 14:26 ashimema nothing else from me.. 14:25 ashimema think we may need to tidy up our bugzilla status's a bit (as proposed in a previous meeting) before itll become especially helpful 14:25 ashimema https://bugs.koha-community.org/kanban/index.html?product=Koha&milestone=19.05&assignee=&comments=false&autorefresh=false&site=https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3 14:24 ashimema I'm trialing the use of a kanban view for our bugzilla.. but I've not really used it enough yet to promote it 14:23 kidclamp #topic General development discussion (trends, ideas, ...) 14:23 ashimema cait didn't leave me any other messages 14:23 ashimema that's probably it for qa update 14:23 kidclamp ashimema++ 14:22 * ashimema will try to jump on those this evening if no-one else beats him to it 14:22 Joubu 3 maj however, would be good to see them processed 14:22 ashimema quiet for the holidays but will pickup in the new year and we'll get back on track 14:22 Joubu lot of new ft and enh 14:22 ashimema so... generally QA is going well.. the regular qa team mailer is going out weekly 14:21 Joubu #info NQA queue is quite big but nothing critical 14:21 ashimema same team, same work... bit slow because of holidays 14:21 ashimema from cait: 14:20 ashimema cait++ 14:20 ashimema cait sends her apologies.. she's out giving blood 14:20 kidclamp #topic Updates from the QA team 14:20 ashimema all good from me too 14:20 fridolin i'm good 14:19 JesseM Thanks 14:19 kidclamp anything else? 14:19 ashimema good luck on your first release guys :) 14:18 ashimema oops 14:18 ashimema ops 14:18 ashimema #info 18.05.x new rmaints are learning fast :) 14:18 huginn Current chairs: Joubu ashimema kidclamp 14:18 kidclamp #chair Joubu 14:18 huginn Current chairs: ashimema kidclamp 14:18 kidclamp #chair ashimema 14:17 JesseM But we're learning. Thank you all for your help 14:17 ashimema #info 17.11.13 due for release 21st December, packages to follow soon after 14:17 JesseM Yes. rmaint is not easy. :) 14:17 ashimema #info 18.11.01 due for release 20th December, packages to follow soon after 14:17 Joubu rmaints is ashimema (18.11), JesseM and lukeG (18.05), and fridolin (17.11) are the Release Maintainers 14:17 ashimema anything you want to say about 18.05.x rmaint JesseM? 14:16 JesseM #info Jesse Maseto, BWS 14:16 fridolin nothing special 14:16 JesseM I am here 14:16 ashimema oh.. we need to update that :) 14:16 fridolin 17.11.13 will be the 21st 14:16 ashimema From me.. we're moving forward nicely.. I'm all up to date on my queue 14:15 wahanui rmaints is ashimema and fridolin are the rmaints 14:15 Joubu rmaints? 14:15 Joubu rmaint? 14:15 ashimema do we have JesseM or Lucas? 14:15 kidclamp #topic Updates from the Release Maintainers 14:14 kidclamp that's it for me 14:14 kidclamp Would like to see movement on ES bugs and Mana and other big things, but lots of work has been done and things seem good, thank you all for work on last release 14:13 ashimema kidclamp++ 14:13 ashimema awesome 14:12 Joubu #info Double check the memcached config on the Koha's about page 14:12 kidclamp I will push some bugs today to give time for release, next week will begin pushing enhancements again 14:12 kidclamp #topic Update from the Release manager (19.05) 14:12 kidclamp #info admins should review their memcached config in light of bug 21955 14:11 kidclamp #info Release for stable a bit early to avoid christmas rush 14:11 ashimema anywho.. moving on? 14:10 ashimema :) 14:10 ashimema more for admins I'm thinking.. to make sure they double check their config for memcached is setup proper 14:10 Joubu devs know already, I sent an email to the list ;) 14:10 ashimema probably worth highlighting it at the top of the release notes for each maint release 14:09 fridolin it was a very ugly bug when enableing plack ;) 14:08 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=21955 critical, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Stable , Cache::Memory should not be used as L2 cache 14:08 fridolin dev should know about Bug 21955 14:06 ashimema 20th (tomorrow) is the day 14:06 ashimema we'll be releases early this maint cycle (to give drojf a chance to package without eating into xmas) 14:06 ashimema Release Day imminent 14:06 kidclamp Anyone? 14:05 kidclamp #topic Announcements 14:05 jajm #info Julian Maurice, BibLibre 14:04 blou #info Philippe Blouin, inLibro, Québec 14:03 fridolin #info Fridolin Somers, Biblibre, Cheeseland 14:02 Joubu qa_team is cait alex_a jajm khall josef_moravec ashimema Joubu marcelr tcohen rangi 14:02 huginn Joubu: I suck 14:02 Joubu huginn: qa_team? 14:01 Joubu qa_team? 14:01 Joubu #info Jonathan Druart 14:01 ashimema hi kidclamp 14:01 kidclamp HI all! Meeting time 14:01 kidclamp #info Nick Clemens, ByWaterSolutions 14:01 ashimema #info Martin Renvoize - PTFS Europe, UK 14:00 kidclamp #topic Introductions 14:00 huginn The meeting name has been set to 'development_irc_meeting_19_december_2018' 14:00 huginn Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 14:00 huginn Meeting started Wed Dec 19 14:00:50 2018 UTC. The chair is kidclamp. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 14:00 kidclamp #startmeeting Development IRC meeting 19 December 2018 13:56 Archie^ is it possible to just delete whole bibliographic records like it does during bulkmarcimport.pl -d ? 13:42 Joubu indeed that was the one 13:42 Joubu yes! 13:41 oleonard Interesting... I gets rid of the 404 :D 13:40 Joubu nope 13:39 oleonard RESTOAuth2ClientCredentials ? 13:39 wahanui Joubu: huh? 13:39 Joubu wahanui: Sorry! 13:39 Joubu sorry wahanui 13:39 Joubu search for "key", cannot remember the name exactly (and not on master right now) 13:38 Joubu oleonard: turn on the pref 13:37 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=21993 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Be userfriendly when the CSRF token is wrong 13:37 oleonard Joubu: Testing Bug 21993, is it normal that I get a 404 error for /cgi-bin/koha/members/apikeys.pl ? 13:36 koha-jenkins Project Koha_18.05_D8 build #145: STILL UNSTABLE in 29 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_18.05_D8/145/ 13:34 Joubu s/is/if # sloooowwww today! 13:29 ashimema Huh 13:29 fridolin suceeeeeessss 13:28 ashimema My point is.. some of the tests that are failing probably shouldn't be failing right now if we suggest we support a no caching environment 13:28 ashimema Indeed.. so in reality is a requirement these days and not just a recommendation.. 13:27 Joubu the about page displays a red alert is memcached is not configured 13:26 koha-jenkins Project Koha_18.05_D9 build #142: STILL UNSTABLE in 28 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_18.05_D9/142/ 13:19 ashimema Or is memcached basically required these days 13:19 ashimema I meant to ask.. do we even suggest we fully support koha with any caching? 13:19 ashimema Indeed 13:14 Joubu well, 18.05 images should have memcached setup correctly 13:13 Joubu I am wondering what's best, maybe the tests should pass (skip) if memcached is not configured 13:12 ashimema So, we need to update the docket a bit 13:12 ashimema Brill.. I thought that was the problem 13:10 Joubu It is expected. I wanted to confirm that the removal of Cache::Memory fixed the selenium tests (it did!) 13:10 Joubu JesseM: 18.05 is failing because of https://gitlab.com/koha-community/koha-testing-docker/issues/103 13:07 koha-jenkins Project Koha_17.11_D8 build #128: SUCCESS in 31 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_17.11_D8/128/ 12:57 koha-jenkins Project Koha_18.05_U18 build #145: STILL UNSTABLE in 29 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_18.05_U18/145/ 12:57 JesseM ashimema++ 12:46 ashimema as you and Lucas are sharing the role 12:46 ashimema you may need to adapt that slightly to allow two commiters JesseM 12:45 * ashimema will 12:45 eythian Keep an eye open for Devel::Probe 12:44 eythian It'll hopefully be on CPAN soon, it was just written yesterday. 12:44 ashimema wow eythian 12:44 eythian You can even explore production, as normally it doesn't do anything until you ask it to, so if prod is acting up you can have a look into it without restarting it. 12:44 Joubu o/ 12:44 JesseM Thanks ashimema 12:44 ashimema :) 12:43 eythian Someone just demoed something to me that allows you to inject a non-breaking breakpoint into running Perl code. So you could have a sub that, say, dumps the variable values when this point is hit, or make a stacktrace, etc. But you can modify the config of it at runtime, for exploring what a program is doing. You could, in theory, also inject your own Perl code. It's like Erlang debugging. 12:43 ashimema and it just sits in kohaclone/.git/hooks/pre-push 12:43 ashimema that's the hooked I ended up with in it's entirety for 18.05.x 12:43 JesseM Just added what you sent over ashimema. I should be good going forward. 12:43 ashimema https://paste.debian.net/1056533/ 12:41 JesseM first off it actually helps if I add that to my pre-push hooks 12:39 ashimema oh.. so you're struggling with the pre-push hook are you Jesse? 12:38 fridolin ashimema: of course ;) 12:37 ashimema Joubu and I came up with that one for Jesse and Lucas.. help them out with the $raw's.. I sorta preusmed that by the time patchs got to you the $raw should already have been removed Frido so i didn't copy it to you 12:37 fridolin you may test Koha 17.11 with plugin https://github.com/bywatersolutions/koha-plugin-kitchen-sink/ 12:36 fridolin enhancement 12:36 JesseM ashimema: I need to figure out why my pre-push hooks are not working 12:36 fridolin ahh its a bug not an enancement 12:35 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=21905 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle, RESOLVED FIXED, Plugin hook intranet_catalog_biblio_enhancements_toolbar_button incorrectly filtered 12:35 fridolin bug 21905 12:35 koha-jenkins Project Koha_18.05_D8 build #144: STILL UNSTABLE in 29 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_18.05_D8/144/ 12:34 AndrewIsh Ah, JesseM you're absolutely right! FFS, what an idiot I am. 12:34 fridolin where is it ? 12:34 fridolin ashimema: oh i dont 12:32 oleonard Hi all 12:30 ashimema do you not have the pre-push hook that checks for $raw JesseM? 12:29 JesseM There is not html filter in 18.05 though 12:28 koha-jenkins Project Koha_18.05_D9 build #141: STILL UNSTABLE in 29 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_18.05_D9/141/ 12:28 fridolin JesseM: be careful not to add $raw TT filter, juste remove this filter 12:27 JesseM I need more coffee now. 12:27 fridolin k 12:26 JesseM Shouldn't need this patch 12:26 JesseM AndrewIsh: I don't think 21905 is needed for 18.05. Bug was introduced in master. Should need this bug 12:17 JesseM fridolin: wait a few minutes. I might need to fix this patch 12:11 AndrewIsh fridolin++ 12:10 fridolin ;) 12:10 fridolin but coffeeeeeee first 12:10 fridolin AndrewIsh: i'm on it 12:08 AndrewIsh fridolin: Any chance of 21905 getting into 17.11.13 now JesseM has pushed it into 18.05? Pretty please :-D 12:07 AndrewIsh Thanks :) 12:07 JesseM You're welcome. If there is anything else please let me know. 12:06 ashimema awesome 12:06 AndrewIsh Thanks very much JesseM :) 12:06 AndrewIsh JesseM++ 12:06 JesseM AndrewIsh: I pushed that for you to 18.05 :) 09:38 fridolin items is the storage of 952 (995 unimarc) fields 09:37 fridolin for me biblio = biblioitems, its a one to one relation 09:37 fridolin and maybe someday other format like DC 09:37 Archie^ aye gracias fridolin 09:37 fridolin marcxml actually 09:36 fridolin note that in Koha >= 17.11 there is biblio_metadata containing MARC data 09:36 fridolin Archie^: here 09:36 fridolin http://koha.1045719.n5.nabble.com/What-is-biblioitemnumber-for-td6002906.html 09:35 Archie^ fridolin: i'm afraid i am on in the mailing list 09:34 fridolin Archie^: there is a recent mail on that 09:10 Archie^ What excatly is Correlation between Biblio, BiblioItems and Items table. I get Biblio stores records of all books, items are... well items in libraries. What is Biblioitems for? 09:04 AndrewIsh Yeah, true, well, either works. Email might be better as their presence on Slack is variable I think 09:04 ashimema or AndrewIsh we could just catch Jesse and Lucas in slack this afternoon 09:03 fridolin your welcome 09:03 AndrewIsh fridolin: Ah yes, of course, thanks 09:03 fridolin you can find our mails in Bugzilla 09:03 * ashimema will pass on the list 09:02 fridolin its me and Lucas 09:02 AndrewIsh Lol, OK, fair enough :) 09:02 fridolin there is not really one ;) 09:02 AndrewIsh fridolin: No problem, what's the email address for that, sorry to have to ask? 09:01 ashimema hehe 09:01 fridolin ;) 09:01 fridolin we love plugins 09:01 fridolin AndrewIsh: please mail this demand on all Release Maintainers pls 09:00 AndrewIsh Looks like 18.05.x has 20968, so that's not a problem 09:00 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13618 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, RESOLVED FIXED, Add additional template filter methods and a filter presence test to Koha 09:00 fridolin Bug 13618 can be corrected by not using $raw 09:00 AndrewIsh Yeah, I just spotted that, I'm not sure what dependencies Lucas is talking about 09:00 ashimema I meant to ask them 09:00 ashimema i wasn't entirely sure why that was the case.. 08:59 fridolin oh 21905 was not backported to 18.05.x because of dependancies 08:58 AndrewIsh Many thanks :) 08:58 fridolin ok i have a look 08:58 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=21905 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle, RESOLVED FIXED, Plugin hook intranet_catalog_biblio_enhancements_toolbar_button incorrectly filtered 08:58 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20968 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, andrew.isherwood, RESOLVED FIXED, Plugins: Add hooks to enable plugin integration into catalogue 08:58 AndrewIsh fridolin: Hi Fridolin. You recently backported Bug 20968 to 17.11.x, which is awesome, thanks. Is there any chance you could also backport Bug 21905 please? It's a tiny patch and fixes a bug in 20968, without it 20968 won't work :-/ 08:01 wahanui what's up, alex_a 08:01 alex_a bonjour 07:39 reiveune hello 06:22 ashimema Not sure if we're translated into Korean yet.. translate.koha-community.org is where the translations are done.. I'll check the status of that language when I login properly later this morning 06:21 ashimema Koha does work with RTL and LTR languages happily 06:20 ashimema You'll want to make sure you choose the ICU option when you install Koha to get full characterset support for Korean 06:18 ashimema ChrisUpstairs still here I wonder? 05:11 alexbuckley no problem chris :) 04:54 ChrisUpstairs I've found the mailing list and will try there. Thanks much for your help alexbuckley! 04:44 ChrisUpstairs In theory I could batch search ISBN numbers for MARC records, then put those MARC records into Koha? 04:38 alexbuckley as regards importing marc records from a database that should be possible and there are a number of scripts you can run to clean the data to put it in a useable form to batch import into Koha 04:37 alexbuckley You might find this part of the Koha manual useful: https://koha-community.org/manual/18.05/en/html/cataloging.html Basically when doing acquisitions you can use something called Z39.50 which is where you can find and retrieve bibliographic information about a book from a remote source for example the library of congress, it can really speed up cataloging 04:32 ChrisUpstairs that, and if I can't import MARC records from a database, to manually enter information for each Korean book in our library 04:30 alexbuckley When you say 'how difficult would it be to manually enter books into our catalogue?' do you mean adding books after migrating your catalogue to Koha, i.e. acquisitions? 04:29 alexbuckley yes Koha can handle not english characters and it has extensive translations 04:25 ChrisUpstairs I guess other questions would be: can Koha handle non-English characters? and how difficult would it be to manually enter books into our catalogue? 04:23 ChrisUpstairs last I saw it's probably possible because Koha is worldwide :) 04:22 alexbuckley righto 04:19 alexbuckley I personally do not have experience of that however I am sure it is possible Koha is in very wide use worldwide 04:19 Chris I need to run to a different classroom, I'll sign back on here - there... my life is a mess... 04:18 Chris any experience/idea if it's possible to search a Korean database? I've been trying to find one but I'm having language issues 04:16 alexbuckley hehe no worries 04:16 Chris sorry about that, a student just beeped a barcode haha 04:16 Chris 99058 04:16 alexbuckley yes so you can batch import marc records into Koha 04:15 alexbuckley ah yes Koha would certainly be a big improvement for you 04:15 Chris Right now we can only search by title, not even author... so anything is an improvement. My problem lies with the Korean books 04:14 Chris (I'm new to librarianing so I'm figuring things out) but I gather I can import MARC records and put our whole collection up, and it'll resemble a real library. 04:13 alexbuckley oh yes what are your questions? 04:12 Chris I'm a librarian at an international school in South Korea and I'm looking to make the switch to a real ILS (Koha at this point)... but I have questions 04:12 Chris ooh! a person! 04:08 alexbuckley hi 04:01 Chris Good afternoon/evening/morning