Time Nick Message 00:52 * Francesca waves 07:22 magnuse \o/ 07:45 reiveune hello 08:06 Archie^ Hey guys and girls 08:06 Archie^ a question 08:06 wahanui hmmm... a question is a bit general 08:06 Archie^ An error occurred when deleting this library. Check the logs. <-- where is these logs? 08:08 magnuse Archie^: /var/log/koha/<sitename>/ 08:09 Archie^ thanks magnuse ! 08:09 magnuse if you are running plack, look for plack-error.log. if not, look for something like intranet-error.log 08:09 magnuse i might remember the names wrong, but you should be able to figure it out once you see them 08:10 Archie^ ya i found it :) thanks agian 08:14 Archie^ Hey magnuse another quick question if i may. Im trying to remove a library and it says This library cannot be deleted. Patrons or items are still using it (4081 items). Can i just remove the Items from "items"' table? or there is a way to remove them from Koha? 08:14 Archie^ as in, delete from items where homebranch = library branch code 08:33 Archie^ Unable to check in :/ this is frustrating without any explanation 08:39 magnuse Archie^: yeah, just deleting from the items table should work 08:40 Archie^ thanks. 08:41 Archie^ is there a way to troubleshooting why can't items be checked in? 08:43 magnuse Archie^: any error messages in the GUI or in the logs we talked about earlier? 08:48 Archie^ magnuse: yes, tons of informations. looks like a date issue? maybe. i'm not sure. Screenshot: https://prnt.sc/lud274 08:50 Archie^ The following ids exist in both tables issues and old_issues: 1 . should i delete the issue from old_issues? :/ 08:54 ashimema too late in the day for rangi isn't it 08:55 Archie^ ahh found a fix! I had Id in old_issues 1 and this issue had ID 1 aswell 09:22 magnuse Archie^: it is this problem: https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/DBMS_auto_increment_fix 09:23 magnuse ashimema: 10:23 pm his time, so probably 09:23 Archie^ magnuse: yes, i remember restarting mysql multiple times. This is the issue. Fixed it :) thank you ! 09:50 ashimema indeed.. ta 10:22 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed! 10:22 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9 build #627: FIXED in 28 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9/627/ 11:03 AndrewIsh fridolin: Hey, I noticed you backported bug 20968 for 17.11.13, many thanks for that! What are the chances of getting bug 21905 backported for the next 17.11.x release? It's tiny and fixes a bug that prevents the use of 20968 11:03 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20968 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, andrew.isherwood, RESOLVED FIXED, Plugins: Add hooks to enable plugin integration into catalogue 11:03 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=21905 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Stable , Plugin hook intranet_catalog_biblio_enhancements_toolbar_button incorrectly filtered 11:19 ashimema Looks like that latter one hasn't made it to 18.05.x yet.. I'm sure I could expedite that a little if it helps ;) 11:30 AndrewIsh ashimema: I'm sure that would be helpful for 18.05.x instances :) 11:31 ashimema indeed 11:54 ashimema does anyone else find the tests written in db_dependant/Accounts.t just plain confusing.. 11:55 ashimema there's a random set of tests for chargelostitem at the top.. then a subtest title 'Koha::Account::chargelostitem tests'.. 11:55 ashimema but it's not Koha::Account at all.. 11:55 ashimema it's C4::Account that contains the method 11:55 ashimema odd 11:56 ashimema and then there's also db_dependent/Circulation/Chargelostitem.t which seems to test the same stuff again 11:56 * ashimema thinks it's time for some cleanup 12:32 cait hm workig on mailing list emails a bit 12:32 cait has someone taken a look at "instructions DP Tripathi gives at his channel called Library guide" ? 12:34 cait packages? 12:34 cait installing koha? 12:34 cait wahanui: .... you are no help 12:34 wahanui OK, cait. 12:34 cait oops 12:37 Joubu hi #koha 12:37 cait do we still recommend those? https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_on_ubuntu_-_packages 12:37 cait hi Joubu! 12:38 Joubu cait: why not? 12:38 cait jut was not sure which are the most current ones :) 12:39 Joubu It is the ref wiki page if you want to install Koha on Ubuntu 12:39 * kidclamp waves 12:40 cait Joubu: trying to answer the email from 3 days ago about a problem installing on ubuntu 12:40 cait following these instructions "https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_on_ubuntu_-_packages" 12:41 Joubu which one? 12:41 wahanui which one are you looking at? 12:41 cait ah... sorry, it was: instructions DP Tripathi gives at his channel called Library guide" 12:41 cait no link 12:42 Joubu I do not see it in the archives 12:43 marcelr hi #koha 12:44 Joubu Guys, there are very urgent bugs to test (there are patches already!), and most of them must be part of 18.11 and backport. I will put the list here (as I have no idea what I can do with it) 12:44 Joubu Bug 21931 - Upgrade from 3.22 fails when running updatedatabase.pl script 12:44 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=21931 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Upgrade from 3.22 fails when running updatedatabase.pl script 12:44 cait Re: [Koha] Problem after the importation of the initial settings of Koha 12:44 Joubu bug 21950 - [OPAC] query_cgi and limit_cgi must not be filtered template-side 12:44 cait to koha 12:44 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=21950 critical, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , query_cgi and limit_cgi must not be filtered template-side 12:44 cait on december 10 12:44 Joubu bug 21973 - [Authentication] CAS URL escaped twice, preventing login 12:44 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=21973 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , CAS URL escaped twice, preventing login 12:44 Joubu bug 21986 - [Cataloging] quotation marks are wrongly escaped in several places 12:44 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=21986 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , quotation marks are wrongly escaped in several places 12:45 marcelr ok Joubu 21798 applies 12:45 cait https://lists.katipo.co.nz/pipermail/koha/2018-December/051979.html 12:46 cait Joubu: do you want tme to send them to the qa team? 12:46 Joubu cait: that may be related to bug 21931 as well 12:47 cait hm fresh installation? 12:47 Joubu cait: whatever you think it could be useful 12:47 Joubu IMO there are blocker for 18.11.01 12:48 cait 373-64 seems like an odd primary key 12:49 Joubu @wunter Buenos Aires, Argentina 12:49 huginn` Joubu: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready 12:49 wahanui i already had it that way, huginn`. 12:49 Joubu @weather Buenos Aires, Argentina 12:49 huginn` Joubu: I suck 12:49 Joubu what's the command? 12:49 wahanui the command is !jenkins 12:49 Joubu as always you are wrong wahanui 12:50 cait wunder 12:50 cait @wunder Buenos Aires 12:50 Joubu @wunder Buenos Aires, Argentina 12:50 huginn` cait: Buenos Aires, Argentina :: Thunderstorm :: 70F/21C | Thursday: Showers early becoming a steady, drenching rain for the afternoon. High 69F. Winds ENE at 20 to 30 mph. Chance of rain 100%. 1 to 2 inches of rain expected. Thursday Night: Windy early...thunderstorms likely. Low 68F. NE winds at 20 to 30 mph, decreasing to 10 to 15 mph. Chance of rain 100%. 1 to 2 inches of rain 12:50 huginn` Joubu: Buenos Aires, Argentina :: Thunderstorm :: 70F/21C | Thursday: Showers early becoming a steady, drenching rain for the afternoon. High 69F. Winds ENE at 20 to 30 mph. Chance of rain 100%. 1 to 2 inches of rain expected. Thursday Night: Windy early...thunderstorms likely. Low 68F. NE winds at 20 to 30 mph, decreasing to 10 to 15 mph. Chance of rain 100%. 1 to 2 inches of rain 12:50 cait @wunder Konstanz 12:50 huginn` cait: Konstanz, Germany :: Mostly Cloudy :: 35F/2C | Wind Chill: 28F/-2C | Thursday: Partly cloudy. Widespread frost likely. Temps nearly steady in the low to mid 30s. Winds ENE at 5 to 10 mph. Thursday Night: Clear to partly cloudy. Widespread frost likely. Low near 25F. Winds NE at 5 to 10 mph. 12:51 Joubu the thunderstorms are super strong! 12:51 cait Showers early becoming a steady, drenching rain for the afternoon... ugh 12:51 cait getting cold here 12:53 Joubu cait: I would just answer to follow the wiki page 12:53 cait i tried to do that in a nice way 12:54 Joubu [off] I guess this is the video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mz_Qc20emiM 12:55 Joubu [off] comments are so weird: " Sir how to install WiFi drivers on Ubuntu 18.04 LTS.? " 12:55 Joubu [off] To start koha in your library just contact with me xxx 12:59 cait [off] the usual problem i guess :( 13:03 ashimema Hello 13:03 wahanui bonjour, ashimema 13:05 cait hello ashimema 13:05 cait just sent an email about some bugs for 18.11 Joubu highlighted 13:06 cait bbl - time to go outside brrrr 13:15 ashimema ta :) 13:17 marcelr Joubu: did you finish bug 21971; check status ? 13:17 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=21971 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, ASSIGNED , TestBuilder::build_sample_item 13:26 Joubu marcelr: yep, adjusting 13:27 Joubu marcelr: about AddItem - we will replace it with TestBuilder->build_object but only when we will create item using Koha::Item->new (so when the code will be moved from AddItem to Koha::Item) 13:27 marcelr yeah i see addbiblio still too -- too bad 13:27 marcelr let me test it 13:27 Joubu marcelr: I tried but failed, it was the first idea 14:03 caroline good morning! 14:15 Joubu I have written a wiki page for Hea, could somebody review it? https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Hea 14:16 tcohen hola #koha 14:22 ashimema hi tochen 14:39 * Freddy_Enrique bows 15:27 * cait waves 15:27 cait back 15:36 reiveune bye 15:37 caroline back laterz! 16:21 cait caroline: i will update the documentation page on the website 16:22 cait https://koha-community.org/documentation/ 16:24 cait hm or i would... but my login doesn't seem to work 16:25 cait ah, does now 16:37 cait caroline: just moved the versions around, because i noticed 18.11 was still marked development 16:48 cait hm, also removed link to Nicole's email and broken links from https://koha-community.org/documentation/other-docs/ 17:47 coyas hello 17:47 wahanui hi, coyas 17:48 coyas i need help in customizing opac 17:49 coyas all this work is hard to understand 17:50 coyas for me(i speak Portuguese) 17:50 coyas not work but word 17:57 coyas what is OPACBaseURL 17:58 cait coyas: have you checked out the manual? 17:58 cait documentation? 17:58 cait manual? 17:58 wahanui somebody said manual was not entirely translated though https://koha-community.org/manual/18.05/ar/html/index.html 17:58 coyas no 17:58 cait hm not the link i was looking for (wahanui is a bot) 17:58 cait https://koha-community.org/documentation/ 17:59 cait there is even a portugese version, not sure how complete the translation is 17:59 cait it has descriptions of all system preferences 17:59 Joubu thanks cait for the review! 17:59 cait if you get stuck, you can still ask of course 17:59 cait Joubu: you are welcome :) 18:13 coyas i know how to put slide book on opac without the user is logged 18:14 coyas who know how to put slide books on opac without the user is logged 18:14 caroline coyas: what do you mean by "silde books"? 18:15 coyas slide 18:17 coyas 5 or more books aside each other 18:17 caroline coyas: ah ok! 18:17 caroline there are plugins for that 18:17 coyas i see something awesome example on google image 18:18 coyas where is find plugins 18:18 caroline There is one here : https://inlibro.com/en/koha-plugins/ and one here : https://bywatersolutions.com/news/koha-coverflow-setup 18:19 caroline not sure about that second one, since it's from 2016 18:19 ashimema I wasn't aware of the InLibro one.. 18:19 caroline :D 18:19 ashimema what's the difference.. do they have different goals? 18:19 caroline trying to shamelessly plug in our stuff ;) 18:20 caroline I don't know the bywater one, so i'm not sure 18:20 caroline I find ours is a bit ancien looking 18:20 ashimema hehe 18:20 caroline I'm trying to get the devs to work on it to make it more modern, but it's not really a priority 18:20 ashimema I can confirm we've been using the ByWater one with lots of customers on lots of version for a long time 18:20 ashimema be interested to compare 18:21 ashimema hehe 18:21 caroline ashimema: here is one example : https://stzotique.inlibro.net/ 18:21 coyas good 18:21 ashimema oh, interseting 18:21 ashimema cool 18:22 caroline it's based on a public list and the colours are configurable in the plugin 18:22 coyas this last link isn't work 18:22 coyas forguet now is goog 18:22 coyas good 18:23 caroline coyas: ok! good luck! 18:23 ashimema do you guys not link to open repos caroline? 18:23 ashimema I just see a download link which yields the kpz.. but no github or similar link :( 18:24 caroline no, another thing I'm working on... trying to get them more open 18:24 caroline but i'm told the plugins have the perl right in them 18:24 caroline so you can unzip and look at the code 18:25 ashimema indeed you can 18:25 ashimema but... 18:25 ashimema unless I see a licence and a repo I'm generally discouraged to contribute ;) 18:25 Joubu you cannot open issues and merge requests :) 18:25 ashimema indeed 18:26 caroline I know... If you want to give me a list of advantages, I could try to make a case of it 18:26 ashimema and.. in fact.. it kinda puts me off in general.. before I'd use that i'd have to download it.. unpack it (which one has to know that it's just a renamed zip file) and then inspect the code for security holes ;) 18:26 Joubu lazy ashimema :D 18:26 ashimema well.. the big advantage to your company is you 'might' get external contributors 18:27 ashimema well.. with the ByWater one's simpley because it's open it makes me less suspicious 18:27 ashimema though I do generally have a quick look at the code.. I'm not expecting to find naughty tracking or anthing in there in the first place. 18:28 ashimema I will admit.. it's a nice page showcasing your plugins caroline :) 18:29 ashimema that's a positive.. it's a tad harder to find bywater ones 18:29 ashimema and ptfs ones are also pretty hidden.. though likely very UK centric to date being they're mostly online payments ones and a copyright clearance one to date 18:31 cait might still be nice to have as examples 18:31 cait we have a plugin wiki page 18:31 ashimema we do 18:31 ashimema I wasn't aware of that one 18:31 cait https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_plugins 18:31 cait you could add the link htere 18:32 cait caroline: maybe yours too? 18:32 cait oh inlibro is already there! 18:32 caroline yes, added it a couple of months ago hehe! 18:32 cait caroline++ 18:33 cait nice logo - did it change? 18:33 caroline last year yes 18:33 cait ah :) 18:33 caroline I did a blog post about it, my first after I started :) 18:35 caroline to go back to the open sharing thing, I'd like to share my training docs, so I'll start with that 18:35 caroline I don't think a lot of ppl are going to contribute 18:35 cait caroline: we could put them on the website 18:36 cait i just deleted a whole lot of links from other docs becuase they were broken 18:36 caroline I'll have to put them online. Right now there on our server 18:36 caroline I'd like my clients to be able to go back and get them too 18:37 caroline If they lose their copy 19:25 magnuse caroline++ 19:26 caroline ? 19:26 caroline just felt like throwing karma around :) 19:26 magnuse for intending to put training materials online 19:27 caroline oh, well it's just an intention so far, I have to convince my boss :) 19:27 caroline I don't know how it is elsewhere, but here, any material created in the context of work belongs to the employer 19:28 magnuse bit now you got karma for it, you will feel obliged to make it happen for reals ;-) 19:28 magnuse hiya alexbuckley 19:28 caroline hehe! 20:28 caroline English natives: shouldn't "the latter of the current and expiry date" be "the *later* of the current and expiry date"? 20:29 caroline The latter is the last of the list, no? 20:32 cait i think the latter looks right 20:32 cait the last of current and expiry - so expiry 20:32 caroline but the other options are current date or expiry date 20:32 caroline it's in BorrowerRenewalPeriodBase 20:32 cait oh! 20:33 cait the later 20:33 cait you are right i think - it changes the meaning 20:33 cait the later date 20:33 cait where are those native speakers when you need them? 20:33 caroline drinking beer most likely 20:33 caroline :) 20:34 cait heh 20:35 cait it seems like a good gues 20:35 cait s 20:35 cait hm no oleonard 20:35 cait rangi? 20:35 wahanui i think rangi is a pretty big get 20:36 Joubu kidclamp: bug 21824 - you did not answer the question :) Be precise, provide an example 20:36 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=21824 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Signed Off , Add ability to format dates in various formats in templates 20:36 kidclamp I want to show dates only in a specific format on my notice 20:37 kidclamp we have partners who want iso with no hours, etc 20:37 kidclamp the use case is just wanting more options for date in notices 20:40 cait doesn't dateonly work for no hours? 20:41 cait hm maybe not with TT 20:42 Joubu with TT you can use the KohaDates plugin 20:42 caroline kidclamp! You speak english well! 20:42 caroline What do you think of : shouldn't "the latter of the current and expiry date" be "the *later* of the current and expiry date"? 20:43 cait caroline: are we sure of that? *hides* 20:44 caroline hehe! he has a distinguished mustache, therefore speaks distinguished english 20:46 cait heh 20:47 kidclamp latter is a wierd word 20:47 kidclamp it can mean more recent, so it does work there 20:47 caroline it's in the context of BorrowerRenewalPeriodBase 20:48 caroline ok thanks kidclamp++ :) 21:08 alexbuckley hi all 21:15 koha-jenkins Project Koha_18.05_D8 build #139: STILL UNSTABLE in 23 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_18.05_D8/139/ 21:15 caroline hi alexbuckley! 21:15 alexbuckley :) 21:21 koha-jenkins Project Koha_18.05_U18 build #139: STILL UNSTABLE in 29 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_18.05_U18/139/ 21:29 nuentoter hello 21:29 wahanui salut, nuentoter 21:29 nuentoter quick question, in koc file is there a renew option? or just issue and return? 21:30 cait https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_offline_circulation_file_format 21:30 cait another issue might act as a renew - but not sure 21:31 nuentoter thats what i was wondering... 21:32 nuentoter ill do a couple entries then to find out. I screwed my last import horrible by setting everything to an issue lol, 2 years of circulation in and outs and reset as just checkouts. ooof 21:32 caroline 2 years of offline circulation?? 21:33 nuentoter i used the offline circ tool to import circ data from old non-koha system. 21:34 caroline oh ok! phew! 21:34 caroline I thought you were offline for two years 21:34 nuentoter oh lol i would hope not haha 21:35 caroline I don't know you might have been in a remote library where there is no internet connection, and you can only get out once every two years, so the first thing you do when you are free is to upload your circulation data 21:41 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed! 21:41 koha-jenkins Project Koha_18.05_D9 build #135: FIXED in 26 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_18.05_D9/135/ 21:47 Joubu hum... D9 should never have been fixed by this last build! 22:01 ashimema Lol 22:46 koha-jenkins Project Koha_18.05_D9 build #136: UNSTABLE in 28 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_18.05_D9/136/ 23:01 caroline good night all!