Time  Nick         Message
01:18 Francesca    @rangi christmas dashboard theme is ready to be tested
01:18 huginn       Francesca: I suck
01:18 Francesca    whoops
01:18 Francesca    rangi - merge request sent
01:19 Francesca    let me know if anything breaks
01:26 tcohen       Francesca++
01:27 tcohen       Francesca: it is used like @later tell <nickname> <message>
01:27 Francesca    yeah I rembered after I sent it
01:27 Francesca    I'm out of practice lol
01:27 Francesca    thanks!
01:30 Francesca    k gotta go
01:31 Francesca    hope the theme works - if not, will fix it later! bye all
05:00 * Francesca  waves
05:00 Francesca    I'm back
07:35 reiveune     hello
07:41 magnuse      \o/
08:21 Archie^      good morning Koha!
08:23 magnuse      hiya Archie^
08:25 ashimema     christmas dashboard theme
08:25 ashimema     awesome!
08:28 ashimema     Francesca++
08:28 Francesca    oh is it working?
08:28 Francesca    I didn't think it had been merged yet
08:28 Francesca    *clears cookies*
08:29 ashimema     it hasn't as far as I can see
08:29 ashimema     but I'm looking foraward to it :)
08:29 Francesca    Should be tomorrow hopefully
08:29 Francesca    fingers crossed it all works!
08:29 Francesca    hard to test fonts locally
08:30 ashimema     I'd meant to do a Koha advent calendar this year.. but things got in the way :(
08:30 Francesca    that would be super cool
08:30 Francesca    I missed coding and I was like its christmas so need a theme to match
08:30 ashimema     :)
08:31 Francesca    I really should get back into web coding haha
08:31 ashimema     we'd welcome you back with open arms ;)
08:31 Francesca    awww
08:32 Francesca    well you never know - maybe I'll do a matariki theme next year
08:32 ashimema     oh, cool
08:33 Francesca    I wanted to do one this year, but got too busy
08:33 Francesca    so much potential
08:33 Francesca    so little time
08:33 * ashimema   hopes it would include a tiny summary of what that is ;).. I love learning about stuff like that
08:33 Francesca    yeah that would be useful
08:33 Francesca    I don't really edit the HTML bc thats generated through some other way
08:33 Francesca    buuut I'm sure rangi would put one in
08:34 Francesca    or I could stick a link in
08:34 Francesca    or something
08:34 wahanui      something is broken
08:34 ashimema     it's easy enough.. one of us could walk you through it.. I'd be happy to
08:35 Francesca    oooh
08:35 Francesca    that would be cool
08:35 fridolin     hi community
08:35 Francesca    hey
08:37 ashimema     you could do it a couple of ways.. add a simple html block into the relevant template (/views/show_entries.tt) or get a little more clever and add a handler to load any arbitrary markdown or similar into a predescribed area in the template
08:37 ashimema     Hi fridolin
08:37 Francesca    interesting
08:37 Francesca    I'll have to have a play around with that at some point
08:37 ashimema     I'm jumping back on the bandwagon today.. finally going to catch up on the 18.11.x queue.. thankfully kidclamps been pretty quiet the last week ;)
08:40 Francesca    ya know if you do get around to doing a koha advent calender
08:41 Francesca    I will stick a link to it on the dashboard
08:41 ashimema     :)
08:41 Francesca    probably shouldn't try embedding direct into the dashboard page
08:41 Francesca    its looking pretty crowded these days
08:42 ashimema     yeah.. I've been thinking it could do with a little bit of a UI tidyup somehow
08:42 ashimema     not come up with a nice alternative though yet ;)
08:42 ashimema     I'm proud of the new build status badge table though.. I like that
08:42 Francesca    I might have a play around as well
08:42 Francesca    the dashboard used to be my baby when I was working at catalyst
08:42 Francesca    before then as well actually
08:43 ashimema     cool
08:43 Francesca    I loved doing themes and stuff
08:43 ashimema     it's served us really well.. I use it frequently
08:44 Francesca    I think I still have screenshots somewhere of what it looked like before my catalyst academy
08:44 Francesca    the build status table is neat
08:44 Francesca    there should be more stuff like that
08:44 Archie^      so i was doing a cleanup of my test db (removing test libraries etc) and i removed 1 record from Issues and now KOHA runs SUPPER slowly
08:44 Archie^      :/
08:45 ashimema     https://web.archive.org/web/20120926025908/http://dashboard.koha-community.org:80/
08:45 ashimema     bit different aye
08:46 Francesca    it didn't look like that when I started
08:46 ashimema     wow.. were you at catalyst in 2013?
08:47 ashimema     that's when it change to be a bit more like it is now
08:47 ashimema     same basic layout, but not as pretty
08:47 ashimema     https://web.archive.org/web/20130114223719/http://dashboard.koha-community.org/
08:47 Francesca    I made it pretty
08:47 Francesca    yup thats it
08:47 Francesca    I did the academy at the start of 2014
08:48 Francesca    which is when I decided to turn it green - wasn't much good at bug fixing so wizzyrea (if I remember correctly) gave me that instead
08:48 Francesca    it was a fun project
08:48 ashimema     hehe: https://web.archive.org/web/20140206204655/http://dashboard.koha-community.org:80/
08:49 ashimema     well.. I always apreciated the green.. just made it feel more friendly
08:49 Francesca    yup that's right after I got to it lol
08:49 Francesca    green is a nice colour
08:50 * Francesca  is thinking
08:50 Francesca    some of those long lists could be hidden with some html
08:51 Francesca    drop down list or something
08:51 Francesca    or tables
08:51 Francesca    I like tables
08:51 ashimema     I think some of them could posssibly be replaced by graphs
08:51 ashimema     like the activity one.. that could make a nice time based chart
08:52 ashimema     some things need text.. but in general a picture can speak a thausand words if you can work out what picture to show :)
08:52 Francesca    yeah that would be cool
08:52 Francesca    pictures are gooood
08:52 Francesca    there used to be a graph??
08:52 Francesca    I seem to remember
08:53 ashimema     oh.. i don't remember that
08:53 Francesca    huh
08:53 Francesca    might be misremembering lol
08:53 Francesca    wonder how you'd generate a graph
08:53 Francesca    I've finished uni and currently looking for a job
08:53 Francesca    now might be a good time for me to play with this
08:54 ashimema     always good to showcase your skills
08:55 ashimema     what did you study?
08:55 ashimema     I'd probably use somthing like D3.js for graphs.. though there may be simpler, lighter, libraries out there
08:56 tuxayo       hi koha o/
08:56 Francesca    studied music
08:57 Francesca    well, music studies
08:57 Francesca    wrote big long essays
08:57 ashimema     coolios
08:58 Francesca    also toying with the idea of increasing the border curve on the banner
08:58 Francesca    looks pretty darn cool when you up it
09:29 marcelr      hi #koha
10:04 koha-jenkins Project Koha_18.11_D9 build #3: FAILURE in 35 sec: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_18.11_D9/3/
10:05 magnuse      Francesca: newest koha can create graphs for reports - maybe use the same library that is used for that?
10:05 koha-jenkins Project Koha_18.11_D8 build #2: FAILURE in 32 sec: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_18.11_D8/2/
10:05 magnuse      bug 17282
10:06 huginn       Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17282 new feature, P5 - low, ---, alex.arnaud, RESOLVED FIXED, Ability to create charts for SQL reports
10:06 Francesca    I will have a look
10:06 Francesca    thanks magnuse!
10:06 ashimema     @later tell tcohen looks like docker isn't happy for some reason
10:06 huginn       ashimema: The operation succeeded.
10:06 Francesca    should probably go back to packing though
10:06 ashimema     hehe
10:06 koha-jenkins Project Koha_18.11_U18 build #3: FAILURE in 33 sec: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_18.11_U18/3/
10:08 magnuse      nah, there is always time for a little coding first ;-)
10:08 magnuse      "This patch adds 2 new js libraries: d3js and c3js:"
10:08 ashimema     oh cool :)
10:09 magnuse      ah "C3 makes it easy to generate D3-based charts by wrapping the code required to construct the entire chart. We don't need to write D3 code any more."
10:09 ashimema     interesting
10:09 magnuse      from https://c3js.org/
10:31 Archie^      Hey is it possible to make some sort of grouping inside of a particular library? In librarie we have here there are several FUNDS inside a 1 library (for instance 1 funds would be books available for reading on site, other fund is books available to take home etc)
10:34 Francesca    I'm back
10:34 Francesca    the coding looks interestin
10:34 Francesca    g
10:34 Francesca    will play around tomorrow maybe
10:34 Francesca    right now, gotta pack
10:34 Francesca    its 11.30 pm NZ
10:45 magnuse      Archie^: do you mean grouping the funds in the acqusistions module? or grouping the books in the library? (or rather, make the grouping in the library visible in the catalogue?)
10:46 magnuse      for the latter, there are things like collection and location and call number at the item level
10:48 Archie^      magnuse: i'm thinking funds in the acqusistions module (maybe?) basically it's a library within a library. Think of it as a "kids section" and "reading section"
10:54 Archie^      deffinately not acquisitions module
10:56 cait         acquisitions speaks of funds when it's about money
10:57 cait         i think you might be looking for another word
10:57 cait         locations or collections, like magnuse suggested
10:58 * cait       waves
11:03 cait         kidclamp: around?
11:04 Archie^      what excatly is the call number? And by location do you mean shelf number?
11:05 cait         call number = shelf number
11:05 cait         location is something like... first floor
11:05 cait         children's corner
11:05 cait         new books shelf
11:05 cait         whatever you want
11:06 Archie^      where can i find these location settings
11:06 Archie^      ?
11:06 cait         they are authorised value
11:06 cait         s
11:06 cait         and then stored in 952$c in your item
11:07 Archie^      ok, maybe that will work
11:08 Archie^      thank you
11:10 cait         Archie^: https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Holdings_data_fields_(9xx)
11:10 cait         some mor einfo about al litem fields available
11:12 Archie^      thank you cait
11:24 * andreashm  waves
11:27 * cait       waves at andre
11:27 cait         andreashm:
11:27 andreashm    hi cait
11:40 gveranis     hi #koha
11:42 andreashm    hi gveranis
11:42 gveranis     after upgrade to 18.11 xslt on Staff display not working for Detail view
11:42 gveranis     and I don't get any error on log
11:43 gveranis     I search for any related bug but not found much, the installation is unimarc mode
11:43 gveranis     any idea ?
11:44 gveranis     hi andrea
11:52 cait         are you using your own xslt or the default ones?
11:52 Francesca    g'night #koha
11:58 gveranis     the default one
11:59 gveranis     I try on preferences to change the value of default to the path, but with no success
11:59 gveranis     and the other strange thing is why I don't get something on log as error
12:00 gveranis     all the other XSLT preferences working, only the one for display not working
12:11 cait         which log did you check?
12:11 cait         plack err log?
12:16 gveranis     no I don't have enable plack
12:17 cait         you should
12:17 cait         :)
12:17 gveranis     oh ok
12:17 gveranis     thank
12:17 cait         but the problem is probably a different on, but there should be something in th elogs
12:17 cait         if you don't have plack.. it should be in the error logs
12:19 magnuse      gveranis: could it be a caching issue? do you use memecached?
12:19 gveranis     yes I restarted 2-3 times now
12:20 gveranis     ok I found it , nothing with the upgrade . something in UNIMARCslimUtils.xsl . I suppose not showing on error log because this file is calling by xsl engine and not from perl source
12:21 gveranis     thanks all
12:24 * kidclamp   waves
12:25 * ashimema   ducks
12:25 ashimema     I'm all caught up now kidclamp.. feel free to fill my queue
12:26 * ashimema   goes back over the history to see what the precident for release of X.11.01 releases is.. feels so close to last release and xmas.. things feel slow since release
12:29 kidclamp     roger ashimema
12:33 ashimema     jessem and lukeg sebtling into it now :)
12:37 magnuse      ashimema: speaking for myself, i'm not going to update anyone to .1 on december 23rd :-)
12:40 cait         i have a presentation end of jan - hoping to do that with 18.11 :)
12:44 ashimema     hehe
12:46 ashimema     lol.. cait release on 22nd back in dec 2016
12:47 ashimema     joubu waited till the 3rd in 2017
12:47 ashimema     wow.. 16.11.01 actually had 34 bugfixes in that time too.. people must have been on form that year :)
12:48 ashimema     I'll stick to schedule.. it'll be a tiny release but it keeps us all on target
12:48 cait         still some more time to find bug and fix them too
12:56 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
12:56 koha-jenkins Project Koha_18.11_D8 build #3: FIXED in 24 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_18.11_D8/3/
12:57 oleonard     Hi #koha
13:00 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
13:00 koha-jenkins Project Koha_18.11_D9 build #4: FIXED in 28 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_18.11_D9/4/
13:07 Archie^      This library cannot be deleted. Patrons or items are still using it (1 items). <- i literally have no records in Issues and only 1 patron without any checkouts
13:07 magnuse      ashimema++
13:07 oleonard     Archie^: What about item records?
13:08 Archie^      oleonard: where can i find this?
13:08 wahanui      i guess this is one of the things they were referring to this morning : https://www.mcgill.ca/library/about/planning/new-library-services-platform
13:09 oleonard     Archie^: The items table has homebranch and holdingbranch columns
13:10 Archie^      items table is empty
13:24 Archie^      more then that, i removed the records from branches table and it is still in koha GUI :D
13:28 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
13:28 koha-jenkins Project Koha_18.11_U18 build #4: FIXED in 32 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_18.11_U18/4/
13:29 Joubu        hi #koha
13:30 Joubu        Archie^: the patron is using it
13:30 Archie^      Joubu: as i said before, there is only admin in borrowers tables and no items
13:32 Joubu        borrowers.branchcode?
13:36 Archie^      Joubu: the branchcode is a different library that im not trying to remove
13:36 Archie^      i have 2 libraries
13:41 Joubu        reading the code I have no other idea, we display the alert if select count(*) from borrowers where branchcode="XXX"; select count(*) from items where holdingbranch="XXX" or homebranch="XXX";
13:41 oleonard     Is this something that a "restart_all" could help?
13:42 Archie^      koha restart_all ?
13:42 oleonard     sorry I'm thinking in devbox terms
13:42 oleonard     Restart plack and memcached
13:42 Archie^      oleonard: how to? :)
13:45 oleonard     sudo koha-plack --disable kohainstancename
13:45 oleonard     sudo service memcached restart
13:45 oleonard     sudo service apache2 restart
13:45 oleonard     sudo koha-plack --enable kohainstancename
13:55 tcohen       hola
13:55 Joubu        nope, should not change anything
13:58 caroline     good morning!
13:58 oleonard     Hi tcohen and caroline
13:59 Archie^      true, didnt change anything :)
14:02 Archie^      so ok, i have 2 libraries. Trying to delete 1 of them but it says "This library cannot be deleted. Patrons or items are still using it (1 items)." Issues table is empty, Items table is empyt. How?!
14:06 Joubu        please return the value of the 2 SQL queries I gave before
14:08 Archie^      select count(*) from borrowers where branchcode="XXX" Count = 0  select count(*) from items where holdingbranch="XXX" or homebranch="XXX"; count = 0
14:09 Archie^      so the history of this issue is, i had 1 record in issues and i removed it via DB
14:09 Joubu        you replaced XXX with the branchcode's library you are trying to remove, right?
14:12 Archie^      hmm one sec
14:12 Archie^      yah
14:13 Joubu        what about your koha's version?
14:23 Archie^      18.05
15:20 reiveune     bye
17:50 oleonard     Joubu still around?
17:52 oleonard     Never mind, answered my own question
18:06 Joubu        I am :)
18:06 Joubu        jajm: around?
18:07 ashimema     I might steal you now Joubu :)
18:09 * ashimema   hopes his pm made it to Joubu
18:14 Joubu        it did
18:15 ashimema     I bet my query made you upset.. it was a bit general
18:39 Joubu        ashimema: my task scheduler is quite random, as well as slow and messy when tasks > X
19:43 rangi        morning
19:53 * Francesca  waves
20:41 koha-jenkins Project Koha_18.05_D8 build #136: STILL UNSTABLE in 24 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_18.05_D8/136/
20:41 koha-jenkins Project Koha_18.05_D9 build #132: STILL UNSTABLE in 27 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_18.05_D9/132/
21:09 koha-jenkins Project Koha_18.05_U18 build #136: STILL UNSTABLE in 28 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_18.05_U18/136/
21:43 ashimema     Huh.. take scheduler is random.. tad confused
21:54 Francesca    xmas theme is up and running!
21:54 Francesca    final fixes should be up soon
22:06 caroline     shouldn't the circulation stats also count deleted items?
23:15 caroline     good night #koha!
23:29 Francesca    rangi - dashboard looks goood thanks for the merge!
23:30 rangi        no worries
23:30 Francesca    It's not looking great on my laptop, but the internet is a bit funky at the airport
23:30 Francesca    are all the fonts working at your end?
23:32 Francesca    right tine to vanish
23:32 Francesca    flights about to be called
23:32 Francesca    see ya later #koha