Time Nick Message
23:53 CrispyBran I guess my testing IS missing something. While the T is set in the reserves, the transfer isn't set in the test (undef).
23:43 tcohen cya tomorrow, #koha
23:40 tcohen what does it say?
23:39 tcohen perl -wc file.t
23:39 tcohen tell me more
23:39 tcohen syntax errors
23:39 CrispyBran I hate them
23:39 CrispyBran I get them
23:39 tcohen I love them ha
23:39 CrispyBran i hate tests
23:39 CrispyBran Nothing is working. I keep getting syntax errors no matter which method I try.
23:35 tcohen then p($var);
23:35 tcohen I use Data::Printer colored => 1;
23:35 CrispyBran It is a test. On my computer. I haven't posted it in the bug yet.
23:34 tcohen is it a test? a .pl script run through apache? on the API/Mojolicious?
23:34 tcohen CrispyBran: where's this code located?
23:32 * mtompset goes back to lurking due to Christmas party elsewhere.
23:32 mtompset So you can earn the big bucks? ;)
23:32 CrispyBran ugh! Why does this have to be so complicated?
23:29 mtompset I find warn might not work unless you -v your prove. :)
23:29 mtompset in your code... where you are trying to examine the values of something for debugging purposes.
23:29 mtompset or evil, old school... use Data::Dumper; die Dumper($hash_ref_stuff);
23:28 CrispyBran am I supposed to type that somewhere?
23:28 mtompset use Data::Dumper; print STDERR Dumper($hashOrarray_ref_stuff);
23:27 mtompset use Data::Dumper; print STDERR Dumper(\@array_stuff);
23:26 CrispyBran what is stderr? Nothing new came up on the screen.
23:23 rangi then it will be in stderr (most likely output to the screen)
23:23 rangi if you made it warn
23:20 CrispyBran Where do I find the results of Dumper?
23:16 CrispyBran I put it wrong above
23:16 rangi im copying what you wrote above
23:16 CrispyBran Shouldn't it be get_transfer?
23:16 CrispyBran You wrote: my $test = Koha::Items->find( $item->{itemnumber} )->transfer;
23:13 rangi remove it when you've figure out what is wrong
23:13 rangi for debugging yes
23:13 CrispyBran Can I use Data: Dumper in a test?
23:12 tcohen Dumper($object->unblessed)?
23:10 rangi Data::Dumper is a useful module for examining variables
23:09 rangi that will tell you whats actually retruned by transfer
23:09 rangi warn Dumper ($test);
23:09 rangi my $test = Koha::Items->find( $item->{itemnumber} )->transfer;
23:08 rangi use Data::Dumper;
23:08 rangi so maybe do
23:08 rangi you could Dump the value
23:08 cait getting late here an dnot sure i can help more
23:08 cait i'll better leave it to rangi ;)
23:07 cait did you test it within the test?
23:05 CrispyBran tested, not testest
23:04 CrispyBran I'm not sure what I am doing wrong then. I have testest the holds and found is set to T, but I can't get the tobranch info. I must be missing a step in the test, because Koha actually works and the branchtransfers show the transfer.
23:03 cait and pretty sure you need get_transfers
23:02 cait you said it was can't call method tobranch before, that's a different one
23:01 rangi or it would be saying can't call transfer on an undefined value
23:01 rangi so the find is working
23:01 cait yep
23:01 cait that's different to what you said before
23:01 rangi that means transfer is not giving you a result
23:00 rangi yep
23:00 cait ah
23:00 CrispyBran I am putting in Koha::Items->find( $item->{itemnumber} )->transfer->tobranch, and the result is "Can't call method "tobranch" on an undefined value." I have made sure that $item->{itemnumber} has a value.
22:58 rangi (i don't buy it, its a dogma like everything else, and sometimes it's not better)
22:58 rangi that is supposed to be easier to understand
22:57 rangi its just a convention of writing code
22:57 rangi it doesnt change what it actually does
22:57 rangi yeah tahts OO
22:57 CrispyBran I'm seeing my $item = $builder->build( ...other stuff... );
22:57 rangi hopefully that makes sense :)
22:56 rangi its a just a paradigm of coding
22:56 rangi my $modified_item = $item->do_something();
22:56 rangi my $item = Koha::Item->new("stuff goes here");
22:56 rangi in OO you would do
22:55 rangi my $modified_item = do_something($item);
22:55 rangi my $item = create_item("stuff goes here");
22:55 rangi in ADT or other ways you would do
22:54 rangi its just a convention rather than reality CrispyBran
22:54 rangi :)
22:54 cait that's what i meant at least ;)
22:54 rangi :)
22:54 rangi then its not
22:54 rangi you might have done my $item = "fish";
22:54 rangi then it's an item
22:54 rangi my $item = Koha::Item->new()
22:53 cait right?
22:53 rangi if you do something like
22:53 cait it's a scalar - it could be an itemnumber or it could be a reference to an item object
22:52 rangi or it might be a variable
22:52 rangi it might be
22:52 CrispyBran So, is something like $item an object?
22:51 rangi its a tool to (in theory) make maintenance/development easier
22:51 rangi you think of it as an object
22:50 rangi so instead of thinking of a borrower as a row in the borrowers table
22:50 rangi you can achieve that exact same things with either abstraction, but they are both just abstractions
22:50 rangi and Objects as procedural abstraction
22:50 rangi you can think of ADT has type abstraction
22:50 rangi objects have attributes
22:49 rangi adt have functions and procedures
22:49 rangi objects have methods
22:48 rangi you think of them as objects
22:48 rangi instead of thinking of things as abstract data types
22:48 rangi CrispyBran: its just a concept, not a real thing
22:44 cait not right now, but from not being here for a few days
22:44 cait i think he just got back
22:43 CrispyBran Joubu is ignoring me today. :)
22:43 cait you might want to ask Joubu :)
22:42 cait the get_transfers is supposedto return an object
22:42 cait I learned about the concepts in my distance study
22:42 CrispyBran Can you point out an object as an example in Circulation.t?
22:42 cait in perl this is still new to me too
22:42 cait the main difference between C4 and Koha modules is that the Koha modules are written object oriented
22:41 cait objects have methods and attributes/properties
22:41 cait i am not sure i can epxlain that well
22:41 cait object oriented programming
22:40 CrispyBran At the risk of looking dumb, what is an object?
22:39 CrispyBran This is the second test I've ever attempted to modify.
22:38 CrispyBran I'm not exactly sure
22:37 cait do you have a branchtransfers object
22:37 cait looks at what you get leaving off the ->tobranch part
22:37 cait using Data::Dumper
22:37 cait i a not sure if it works with objects, but i'd try to see what you get back
22:35 cait i think what we want is the getter method for tobranch...
22:34 cait i am not sure
22:33 CrispyBran yes, in transit
22:32 cait you are one step further )
22:31 cait or undef... hm
22:31 cait is the item in transit?
22:31 CrispyBran can't call method tobranch
22:30 cait try changing it?
22:29 cait that look slike what you are looking for
22:29 cait http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=blob;f=Koha/Item.pm;hb=b4580bff5ba7753f9db2513c3b87ecb9bba5258c#l128
22:28 cait there is get_transfer in Items
22:28 CrispyBran I may have been misinformed.
22:28 cait i don't think you can use it like that
22:27 cait item has no property transfer and no method transfer
22:27 cait i think it thinks transfer is a method - but that method doesn't exist
22:26 CrispyBran Trying to retrieve the destination of a transfer. Any ideas?
22:25 cait or Transfers
22:25 cait i dont see transfer in Items
22:25 CrispyBran Just like that
22:25 CrispyBran Koha::Items->find($items->{itemnumber})->transfer->tobranch
22:24 cait did you write/add transfer?
22:23 cait not sure if that's the casehere
22:23 cait i got that with typos
22:22 CrispyBran Ideas?
22:22 CrispyBran Getting: The method Koha::Item->transfer is not covered by tests.
22:21 CrispyBran Trying to get the destination of a transfer in a test. Trying to use my $destination = Koha::Items->find($items->{itemnumber})->transfer->tobranch;
22:21 CrispyBran whoops
22:21 CrispyBran Trying to get the destination of a transfer in a test. Trying to use my $destination = Koha::Items->find($items->{itemnumber
22:11 huginn mtompset: The operation succeeded.
22:11 mtompset @later tell Joubu so you are expecting bug 21947 to fix the order for all html_line... | html orders?
22:10 huginn mtompset: Joubu was last seen in #koha 2 hours, 39 minutes, and 4 seconds ago: <Joubu> thanks oleonard! :)
22:10 mtompset @seen Joubu
22:08 karuson those will be helpful
22:07 karuson ah cool, thanks much cait
22:05 cait http://schema.koha-community.org/
22:05 cait ah we got schema too
22:04 karuson okay, just have to be very meticulus in learning the relationships between tables and have a good book handy to sketch out
22:04 caroline I used https://www.w3schools.com/sql/ when I was starting, and of course, stack overflow
22:04 cait no course sorry
22:03 karuson is there a course lol, cause I really would not want to mess up anything
22:02 cait e
22:02 cait yah, and very carefully of cours
22:02 cait no updates or delete
22:02 karuson so has to be done outside from the linux terminal end?
22:02 cait the reports modules strictly only allow select
22:02 cait you can't do changes from within koha
22:01 karuson so which module do you use to edit with sql commands? is it the reports one still?
22:01 karuson i see, i see
22:00 cait it can do a lot... sometimes that makes it a little overwhelming when you start
22:00 karuson but interaction has been very limited
22:00 karuson been exposed to it for just shy of 1 month
21:59 karuson okay, so there is still a lot for me to learn about this system. memcached rings a bell, but plack does not in the least
21:58 cait yeah
21:58 karuson to edit the framework en masse?
21:58 cait because i am lazy - but you need to restart plack and memcached if you do, so requires a bit of server side stuff
21:57 cait worth a try - i ususally edit them with sql :)
21:56 karuson i'll test it out when I can
21:56 karuson oh i see, thanks for the tip
21:56 karuson i cant think of a use-case right now for which feature I would need to edit
21:56 cait excel tends to mangle our german umlauts too
21:55 cait i find libre office to be nicer with csv data a lot of times
21:55 cait ah.... good old excel
21:55 karuson so had to use notepad++
21:55 karuson found out that excel keeps truncating a lot of data
21:55 karuson well true, the other day I had to use the test environment to fiddle around with getting a framework to be exported, edited and then imported back into the system
21:55 cait what kind of feature do you want to use it for?
21:54 cait but it does require some programming
21:54 cait plugins can have their own tables, data and configuration options
21:54 cait you can use plugins
21:54 cait helping on the mailing lists, documentation, testing...
21:54 karuson oh, is it possible, somewhere within the koha system to use sql commands to create a permanent table and option, or is that strictly for developers to manipulate the system to that level?
21:53 cait there is lots of things for non-devs :)
21:52 karuson i don't really code though, at the most i could see about methods to make my work move a little bit faster
21:52 karuson ah okay
21:50 cait i think the ptfs ones are using it now too
21:50 cait i'd recomment the bywater ones right now - they use the newer system
21:50 karuson some of them don't work with the login details though
21:50 cait ah great
21:50 karuson i have used the sandboxes before
21:49 karuson lol oh okay
21:49 cait kind of, but i am a night owl
21:49 cait ah, this bot is missing
21:49 karuson oh snap, its near the middle of the night there isnt it?
21:49 cait sandboxes?
21:49 cait if you are interested i testing, the sandboxes are a good place to start
21:49 cait I am from Germany
21:49 cait ah cool
21:49 karuson Jamaica
21:48 cait where are you from? :)
21:48 karuson ah, yup, i have no problem with that
21:48 cait and that would definitely help to make it move faster
21:47 cait and if something is waiting for sign off you can help with testing
21:47 cait but it's good to get different perspectives, also interesting for somoen elooking at writing a spec
21:47 karuson ohhhhhhh
21:47 cait it needs sponsoring usually - most features are paid for by someone
21:47 cait there are no guarantees a feature request will be realized tho
21:46 karuson well if it helps with fixes and enhancements to move faster, i will as long as I am in use of the software.
21:45 cait and participating in bug discussions is always good
21:44 karuson it did :)
21:44 cait hope it made sense :)
21:44 karuson oh okay, thanks for explaining
21:43 cait but it's filed as an enhancement
21:43 cait everything is a 'bug' there
21:43 cait new features
21:43 cait bugs in bugzilla can be 'errors' or enhancements
21:42 karuson ?
21:42 karuson is it really a bug though lol
21:42 karuson so i could add to 18787?
21:42 cait it's always good to file one or add a comment to an existing
21:41 cait you are welcome, right thinking too - filing a bug that is
21:41 huginn cait: I've exhausted my database of quotes
21:41 cait huginn is a bot :)
21:41 karuson :)
21:41 karuson okay, thank you cait and huginn
21:40 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18787 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Create permission profiles for staff users
21:40 cait bug 18787
21:39 karuson okay
21:39 cait i think htere is one already, let me have a quick look
21:39 karuson oh, is it something that I could put in a request for an eventual future update? :)
21:39 cait you can't define roles or something like that
21:39 cait atm no - permissions are assigned individually
21:38 karuson yes
21:38 cait i think you mean permissions?
21:38 karuson when creating a patron
21:37 karuson example, predefine "cataloging" category to give cataloging and circulation features
21:36 cait what kind of policy?
21:34 karuson is it possible to set a group policy for patrons based on the category selected when creating a patron?
21:15 karuson anyone here?
21:12 karuson hello
21:07 valen Hide the subject of a type of article, which I must thank
20:54 indradg where do I start troubleshooting?
20:54 indradg koha-list --plack is showing both the instance
20:54 indradg Debian 8.10 VM (4 core / 10G) - two instances - one with 11000+ bibs, one with 350+ bibs. The larger instance working fine. the tiny 350 bib instance very slow
20:52 indradg Iḿ stuck with a peculiar problem on 18.05.06
20:51 indradg any memcached + plack experts around now?
20:42 ashimema <_oftc_koha-j "Project Koha_18.05_U18 build #13"> Did I see the return of Joubu
20:40 koha-jenkins Project Koha_18.05_U18 build #133: STILL UNSTABLE in 25 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_18.05_U18/133/
20:25 koha-jenkins Project Koha_18.05_D9 build #129: STILL UNSTABLE in 36 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_18.05_D9/129/
20:21 alexbuckley hi all
20:14 koha-jenkins Project Koha_18.05_D8 build #133: STILL UNSTABLE in 23 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_18.05_D8/133/
19:31 Joubu thanks oleonard! :)
19:28 oleonard Welcome back Joubu!
19:25 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=21947 minor, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Needs Signoff , Filtering order generates html in notes
19:25 caroline were you talking about bug 21947
19:24 caroline mtompset: all yours!
19:24 davidnind Thanks Caroline and Catch you all later - work deadline looming in the next hour!
19:23 caroline phew! thx for being there!
19:23 davidnind cait++
19:23 davidnind caroline ++
19:22 huginn Log: http://meetings.koha-community.org/2018/documentation_irc_meeting_4_december_2018.2018-12-04-19.02.log.html
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19:22 caroline #endmeeting
19:22 caroline hopefully that went through...
19:22 caroline #info Next meeting: 5 February 2019, 19 UTC
19:21 davidnind yep
19:21 cait yes
19:21 caroline Feb 5, same time is ok for everybody?
19:20 caroline I think we can skip a meeting in january because of the holidays and schedule something for the beginning of february?
19:20 caroline #topic Set time of next meeting
19:20 caroline ok, that was a quick meeting :)
19:19 cait nope
19:19 davidnind nothing from me
19:19 caroline anything else?
19:19 caroline #action caroline will create a new epic on Taiga for 19.05-specific tasks
19:18 caroline #idea explore if it is possible to cherry pick commits onto previous version manuals
19:17 caroline #action caroline will go through the official release notes for 18.11 to make sure everything is in Taiga
19:17 caroline mtompset: no problem :)
19:16 caroline #info priorities for 18.11 are new features, enhancements, and after that, whatever you like
19:16 mtompset Apologies, didn't notice. Oops. :)
19:16 caroline ok so to recap,
19:16 caroline mtompset: in a meeting right now, maybe after?
19:15 mtompset caroline, care for an easy sign off?
19:15 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=21947 minor, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Needs Signoff , Filtering order generates html in notes
19:15 mtompset cait++ # bug 21947 fix implemented based on your suggestion. :)
19:15 caroline good idea
19:15 cait until there are patches that are specific 19.05
19:15 cait so we don't have 2 brnaches to maintain
19:14 cait if the manual is not branches yet for 19.05 we might want to hold off a whie
19:14 caroline Ok, in that case, I will create a new epic for 19.05, but I wont transfer everything. That way we'll be able to know what goes into just 19,05 vs the rest
19:14 davidnind I think it is something we should try - most if not all of the Taiga tasks relate to the previous versions
19:13 cait cherry pick changes from one to the other branches
19:13 cait like we do with koha versions
19:13 caroline ashimema was asking about that before
19:13 cait we could
19:13 caroline Can we edit the manuals from before?
19:12 caroline I'm looking if there's anything of mention in bugzilla
19:12 cait just so they don't end up in the wrong manual
19:12 cait maybe we could just tag them for a version somehow?
19:12 cait new featuers might take a longer while, but i might be able to start with some smaller things
19:12 caroline I'm wondering if I will keep the Taiga structure as it is, I don't feel like transferring everything from 18.11 to 19.05
19:11 caroline or just pick something from taiga is good too!
19:11 caroline Priorities are new features, enhancements
19:11 cait or just pick something from taiga?
19:10 cait i feel you
19:10 cait where shoudl we start with documenting? are there priorities?
19:10 caroline yes, it's crazy
19:10 cait that's a lot
19:10 caroline #topic Next steps
19:10 caroline I have 4-5 new libraries to transfer to Koha, so I don't have tons of time either
19:09 caroline ;)
19:09 caroline ugh work...
19:09 davidnind work has got in the way to now :-(
19:09 caroline ooh vacation!
19:08 cait was pretty busy at work - on vacation now until after christmas, might find some time for docs :)
19:08 davidnind Nothing to add from me - have done nothing to progress automated screen capture and naming...
19:08 caroline Anything else for what's been done? I know we've all been pretty busy
19:07 cait ok :)
19:06 caroline cait: you mean the topic? yes, right after
19:06 caroline I know LeeJ added the enhancements to Taiga, I think I will still go through the last/official release notes to make sure everything is there
19:06 cait to be done is next, right?
19:05 cait caroline++
19:05 caroline :)
19:05 caroline But we'll jump right into 19,05
19:05 caroline I didn't prepare anything for the meeting, I thought LeeJ would be here for the wrap-up of 18.11
19:05 Joubu Hi all :)
19:04 caroline #topic What's been done so far
19:04 caroline hi Joubu! long time no see :)
19:04 Joubu #info Jonathan Druart
19:03 davidnind #info David Nind, New Zealand
19:03 cait #info Katrin Fischer, Germany
19:03 caroline #info Caroline Cyr La Rose, inLibro
19:02 caroline #topic Introductions (please use "#info" in front of your introduction to have it show up in the automatic minutes)
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19:02 cait hi davidnind :)
19:02 davidnind hi caroline and cait!
19:01 caroline hi davidnind
19:01 davidnind I am here
19:00 cait iam lurking
19:00 caroline anybody here for the docs meeting?
18:50 mtompset cait++ # swapped order works!
18:50 cait I remember using it sonewhere, but that was staff, not the notes ;)
18:49 cait both are
18:48 cait it's a standard one
18:48 cait the first filter is in the TT docs
18:47 mtompset I'll check the switching order idea, cait.
18:40 Joubu kidclamp++ for the release :)
18:39 kidclamp Joubu++
18:38 cait judging from all the @seen Joubu - you were missed :)
18:38 cait hi Joubu
18:37 Joubu hi #koha
18:17 cait then it should work
18:16 cait have you tried to just switch them?
18:16 cait that turns the \n to <br>
18:16 cait htmllinebreak
18:16 cait ah
18:14 mtompset something is wrong with this filtering.
18:14 mtompset [% MARCNOTE.marcnote FILTER html_line_break | html %]
18:13 mtompset Sadly, I have a meeting in 2 minutes.
18:13 mtompset I changed it to $raw, and it worked just fine.
18:13 mtompset yes, it does.
18:13 cait i don't tihnk the html does add the <br>
18:13 mtompset but the FILTER whatever it is should be catching that.
18:12 cait into the marc fields
18:12 cait because it prevents malicous code added
18:12 mtompset the | html is doing it.
18:12 cait i htink it does
18:12 mtompset it doesn't need the | html in my opinion.
18:12 cait but what adds the line breaks to the variable in the first place?
18:12 mtompset opac-detail.tt
18:12 cait what is the line?
18:12 mtompset foo FILTER whatever it is | html
18:11 mtompset line 717
18:11 mtompset it's the template file.
18:11 mtompset the code for getmarcnotes is fine.
18:11 cait have you taken a lok at the code for getmarcnotes or how it is called?
18:10 mtompset test\n\nis\n\ngood should not be rendered with anything HTML taggish.
18:10 mtompset opinion.
18:10 mtompset But the whole addition of readable HTML in the output where there is none is wrong, in my opinio/.
18:09 cait agreed
18:09 mtompset That I don't have a problem with. :)
18:09 oleonard Okay, so my answer to the second half of that question is that HTML should not be included in any MARC tag.
18:09 mtompset I don't think the | html is needed.
18:08 mtompset line 717 is a double filter.
18:08 mtompset there were two things going on.
18:08 mtompset the question is why are blank lines turned into HTML... *AND* what should the HTML in the notes look like?
18:07 mtompset No...
18:07 oleonard Is the question "Should HTML inside 500$a be rendered?"
18:07 mtompset so you saw <br>'s added?
18:06 mtompset just try with lots of blank lines between regular text.
18:06 oleonard Did I add your sample to a 500$a and test the output? Yes I did.
18:06 mtompset sorry, it went to my junk folder, which is why I didn't see it.
18:05 mtompset I just put <hr> in there for other bizarre test case.
18:05 mtompset it turned the blank lines into readable HTML.
18:05 mtompset you didn't run it, did you?
18:05 mtompset no no...
18:04 mtompset I hadn't see it.
18:04 oleonard About the HTML filtering issue?
18:04 mtompset which answer?
17:58 oleonard mtompset: I take it you disagree with my answer?
17:31 reiveune bye
17:11 huginn CrispyBran: mtompset was last seen in #koha 1 hour, 27 minutes, and 8 seconds ago: <mtompset> I mean configure exim4. And no, I don't know how off the top of my head.
17:11 CrispyBran @seen mtompset
17:11 huginn CrispyBran: tcohen was last seen in #koha 2 days, 4 hours, 42 minutes, and 25 seconds ago: <tcohen> hi
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17:11 CrispyBran @seen joubu
16:21 cait oleonard: also explains why it doesn't explode for me
16:10 cait oleonard++ thx!
16:09 huginn cait: Upfingen, Germany :: Overcast :: 43F/6C | Tuesday: Periods of light rain early. Lows overnight in the mid 30s. Tuesday Night: Cloudy. Periods of light rain early. Low 34F. Winds light and variable. Chance of rain 40%.
16:09 cait @wunder Upfingen
15:45 gveranis ok thanks I will look for it
15:44 mtompset I mean configure exim4. And no, I don't know how off the top of my head.
15:44 mtompset gveranis, I believe if you set the branch email address, you can confirm exim4 to use a different email address/smtp server to send from.
15:40 gveranis for different instances
15:40 gveranis Sendmail.pm support configuration for multi smtp use, but I don't find something on Koha code to set up it
15:38 gveranis I would like to ask if somehow we can setup Mail::Sendmail to use different smtp servers based on koha instance that is used
15:37 gveranis hi all
15:36 oleonard mtompset: Did you see my answer? :D
15:35 mtompset oleonard, did you see my double filtering issue/question on the koha-developer's mailing list?
15:34 huginn mtompset: tcohen was last seen in #koha 2 days, 3 hours, 5 minutes, and 35 seconds ago: <tcohen> hi
15:34 mtompset @seen tcohen
15:34 huginn mtompset: Joubu was last seen in #koha 2 weeks, 5 days, 17 hours, 20 minutes, and 14 seconds ago: <Joubu> @later tell tcohen maybe it's #97 and the commit message is wrong, commitid is 84f9c1c1f539d45e27b28344967ea4dda4917f4f
15:34 mtompset @seen Joubu
15:32 cait afk now, might be back later (dinner time) :)
15:29 indradg|digging be back in 10 mins
15:29 indradg|digging i may have done something stupid
15:29 cait but for 350 it seems unusual
15:29 cait maxRecordsForFacets and OPACnumSearchResults set to more than 20 can also slow tihngs down
15:28 indradg [/nick indradg|digging
15:28 cait i am not good with numbers :)
15:28 indradg but you have given me something to chew on @ cait
15:28 cait i somehow made that into 350.000
15:28 cait 350 records
15:27 cait oh
15:27 indradg cait: yes. the 11K bib one is going fine
15:27 indradg im looking at network tab on in chrome devtools
15:27 cait so it's the other way around? because you said "the 350+ bibs instance is crawling"
15:26 cait ah
15:26 cait alos if you changed the page size or upped the number of records for facets
15:26 indradg cait: peculiarly it is the tiny instance that is having issues
15:26 indradg ok
15:25 cait and restarting zebra maybe
15:25 cait if you have them on, it might be worth trying to deactivate in koha-conf.xml
15:24 cait they make searches really slow
15:24 cait we have had bad experience with zebra facets on bigger installations
15:24 indradg cait: the 11K bib instance was a datadump from a 17.11.x db; the 350 bib one was a direct mrc file import into a fresh instance
15:23 cait slow since update? or a new one?
15:22 cait indradg: is it only searches?
15:21 indradg mtompset, both
15:21 mtompset lists both instances?
15:21 mtompset sudo koha-list --plack
15:21 mtompset are both plack?
15:21 indradg the 350+ bibs instance is crawling
15:20 indradg the 11K bib searchs are coming in nice and fine
15:20 indradg for both instances
15:20 indradg memcached running, plack running
15:20 mtompset 10GB VM... someone is rich. :)
15:20 indradg two instances: one with 11,000+ bibs, other with 350+ bibs
15:19 * mtompset mimes, "Plack everything!"
15:19 indradg on a debian 8.10 - 4 core 10 GB VM
15:19 greenjimll mtompset: Hello!
15:19 indradg I´m facing a rather peculiar performance issue on 18.05.06...
15:19 mtompset Greetings, greenjimll
15:18 mtompset Greetings, cait
15:18 mtompset Greetings oleonard
15:18 mtompset Greetings, indradg
15:18 mtompset Greetings, #koha.
15:15 oleonard Hi indradg
15:14 indradg hi #koha
15:05 oleonard Sure
15:04 cait do you have a moment to take a look at the error message posted maybe?
15:03 cait this databale scares me a bit
15:01 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=21933 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Renew or chek in selected items
15:01 cait oleonard: hm somoene reported a problem with russian and the circulation datatable on bug 21933 for 18.11
14:58 cait it just had me scratching my head for a moment wondering
14:58 cait unlikely, i think they only offer Enlgish courses
14:55 greenjimll cait: you'd think codeacademy would at least have localised the currency too for you. :-)
14:29 cait if you are from a country using decimal commas this email from codeacademy seems like a very bad deal: Learn a $112,879 skill for just $199 ... now it looks only quite exaggerated
14:28 cait oleonard++ # totally agree on html in MARC
14:26 cait hi caroline :)
14:26 caroline hi cait, hi everybody
14:25 * cait waves
13:06 magnuse kia ora andreashm!
13:06 magnuse i imagine people would be complaining if it was a common problem
13:05 magnuse thanks for testing oleonard!
12:45 oleonard magnuse: I checked out 17.11.x and tested in Firefox and Chrome (on Windows) and don't see it.
12:34 magnuse i can't reproduce with chromium
12:34 magnuse they have tried in two different computers
12:33 magnuse 17.11.11
12:33 oleonard What Koha version magnuse?
12:33 magnuse they are using Chrome
12:33 magnuse i have one library reporting that when they return books the barcode field does not automagically get focus, to make it easy to return the next book. no errors in the console. anyone else seen that? oleonard?
12:32 magnuse ashimema++
12:28 oleonard Hi #koha
12:15 * ashimema has at last found a moment to fully fix the ptfs-europe sandboxes.. we now have the new sandboxes running alongside 2 legacy sandboxes.
09:11 dersmon i tried rebuilding zebra
09:10 dersmon i mean, the matching rules are not working for stage/commit imports
09:09 dersmon is there something i have to do after committing?
09:08 dersmon it seems like my record matching rules only apply to records imported using the bulk import script, while all data imported using stage/commit is ignored
08:52 magnuse hiya dersmon
08:42 dersmon hi everyone
08:15 cait bye #koha :)
07:52 reiveune hello
07:44 magnuse \o/
07:44 * cait waves
07:44 alex_a bonjour
07:38 Nemo_bis ciao Francesca
06:40 * Francesca waves
03:46 mtompset Have a great day (24 hour period), #koha.
02:52 mtompset Anyone around familiar with template toolkit filtering?
02:51 mtompset Greetings, #koha.