Time  Nick             Message
21:13 ashimema         Will try to find a moment to look some time soon
21:13 ashimema         Thanks for the pointer rangi. 😀
20:09 * CrispyBran     waves back
20:00 * kidclamp       waves
19:59 oleonard         Bye all, see you tomorrow
19:52 CrispyBran       rangi++
19:51 rangi            :)
19:51 * KotH           bows
19:51 KotH             thanks a lot!
19:50 KotH             just stopping by to say thank you to everyone who works or worked on koha! it's by far the lowest maintenance web based software i've ever used... and the updates all work just like a breeze!
19:49 KotH             a wonderful good evening everyone!
19:47 oleonard         mtompset: Check out http://splitter.koha-community.org while it's up and running
19:45 oleonard         rangi++
19:45 oleonard         Thanks rangi
19:45 rangi            its back up (for now)
19:44 rangi            it crashes it quite reliably
19:44 rangi            oleonard: basically that bug needs to be fixed
19:44 rangi            Bad arg length for Socket::sockaddr_family, length is 0, should be at least 2 at /usr/share/perl5/HTTP/Server/Simple.pm line 4
19:44 rangi            Use of uninitialized value in subroutine entry at /usr/share/perl5/HTTP/Server/Simple.pm line 422.
19:44 rangi            ashimema: yep its this
19:33 huginn           Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17140 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, In Discussion , Incorrect rounding in total fines calculations, part 2
19:33 CrispyBran       bug 17140
19:23 huginn           Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7703 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Failed QA , Don't block bulk hold action on search results if some items can't be placed on hold
19:23 * oleonard       is grumpy that Bug 7703 still exists
19:18 tcohen           back
19:14 magnuse          my pleasure!
19:10 oleonard         Thanks magnuse I didn't know about that
19:08 magnuse          patreon for supporting rangi who pays for some of those servers: https://www.patreon.com/user?u=459074
18:32 ashimema         Always a good idea to help fund this stuff though.. it sits on the second server as bugzilla.. which I think is also a donated system
18:32 ashimema         Been a busy few weeks.. else it would probably be a bit higher up some of our lists.. hehe
18:31 oleonard         Thanks ashimema
18:31 * ashimema       is uncool
18:31 ashimema         There's a #CoolKoha
18:30 ashimema         If you have access to an ipv6 connection I'm sure joubu would appreciate the help narrowing it down.. once the bug is fixed I think it's fairly low maintanence
18:30 * oleonard       is booted right out
18:30 ashimema         Splitter has a bug.. joubu was hunting for it a week or two ago.. we think it's encoding related.. or ipv6 requests or something that kills it
18:29 * oleonard       ducks into #CoolKoha to see if that's where everyone is
18:18 oleonard         I see I missed a lot while I was out.
17:00 oleonard         Yes, if there's a patch in Bugzilla which touches it
17:00 mtompset         Oooo.... so every bug that affects C4/Biblio.pm? or whatever?
16:59 oleonard         Joubu++
16:58 oleonard         Correction: https://gitlab.com/koha-community/bz-splitter
16:58 oleonard         https://github.com/joubu/bz-splitter
16:56 oleonard         A site that uses Bugzilla data to find what files have outstanding patches
16:55 mtompset         What is splitter.koha-community.org?
16:38 Shane-S          oleonard: thanks, you at least directed my thinking "out" of Koha to look more at the label maker
16:36 oleonard         We still go through the label creator tool, but we use the "Download as CSV" option and pass that file to the printer software.
16:35 Shane-S          I haven't played with the software much yet, literally got it 3 days ago for my own "IT" needs, just thinking it might be easier then fighting with toner and label alignments
16:34 Shane-S          okay I will have to look into that more, just normal report / sql I assume?
16:33 oleonard         Yes
16:32 Shane-S          There is, do you just do a export via CSV/XLSX and then import into a template?
16:31 oleonard         Shane-S: Is there specific software which comes with the printer? Instead of printing directly to a label printer we export data to printer-specific software which formats it correctly.
16:28 Shane-S          Anyone use a DYMO LabelWrite 400/450 with Koha's barcode creator? I just got one and the tool is nice, but it registers as a printer...just not sure how to create a template for it
16:16 tuxayo           *general public stuff
16:16 tuxayo           I don't know, at least for general public a some developpement tools they are gaining adoption.
16:16 tuxayo           To fund maintenance of software or services.
16:16 tuxayo           oleonard: Then maybe https://liberapay.com/ or https://salt.bountysource.com/ could be solutions.
16:13 huginn           oleonard: The operation succeeded.
16:13 oleonard         @later tell rangi Is there anything we as a community can do to help get splitter up and stable?
16:10 oleonard         tuxayo: My genuine concern is that rangi is maintaining splitter out of the goodness of his heart and doesn't get the support he needs for it
16:09 tuxayo           I wonder how hard it is for a library to put money in there.
16:08 tuxayo           Seriously we (libraries and support companies) could put bounties on some bugs heads. https://www.bountysource.com/
16:08 tuxayo           oleonard: why not ;) After all, this part of Koha's infrastructure is used by many of us here for work. :P
16:04 * mtompset       frowns, "t/db_dependent/Biblio.t is failing for me. For a test I'm trying to add."
16:00 oleonard         tcohen around?
16:00 reiveune         bye
15:54 * oleonard       starts a gofundme for splitter.koha-community.org's medical bills
15:51 mtompset         Hmm...
15:50 CrispyBran       Library of Congress does not list it, so it must be old.
15:49 CrispyBran       That's all I can find.
15:49 CrispyBran       CAN/MARC field 009 was made obsolete in 1997 with the definition of the new field 007 for remote sensing images and new values in the maps 008 field.
15:49 CrispyBran       009 Cartographic Material - Physical Description Fixed Field (Detailed)  (CM)  [obsolete, 1997]  [CAN/MARC only]:
15:48 mtompset         I think 009 is a new addition.
15:48 mtompset         The web site doesn't have it...
15:47 oleonard         mtompset: Did you check the Library of Congress documentation?
15:47 CrispyBran       looking
15:46 mtompset         CrispyBran, do you know anything about MARC control field 009?
15:46 wahanui          que tal, CrispyBran
15:46 CrispyBran       howdy
15:46 mtompset         Greetings, CrispyBran
15:46 * CrispyBran     waves
15:38 mtompset         009 that is.
15:38 mtompset         When did '9' get added?
15:38 mtompset         I need a MARC expert.
15:38 huginn           mtompset: jcamins was last seen in #koha 25 weeks, 0 days, 16 hours, 47 minutes, and 38 seconds ago: <jcamins> cait: probably 561.
15:38 mtompset         @seen jcamins
15:37 huginn           mtompset: I have not seen jcamins_.
15:37 mtompset         @seen jcamins_
15:37 huginn           mtompset: cait was last seen in #koha 2 hours, 13 minutes, and 35 seconds ago: <cait> or 1.5 if it changed with 17.11
15:37 mtompset         @seen cait
15:37 mtompset         Greetings, #koha.
15:14 maya             we have made amd 64-bit debian 9.6 system multiarch, to install borther printer  our concern is that would it conflict with KOHA packages or other packages installed before? any help is aprreciated !
15:05 maya             our concern is that would it conflict with KOHA packages?
15:05 maya             we have made amd 64-bit debian system multiarch, to install borther printer
15:05 oleonard         Hi maya
15:03 maya             hi
14:42 Freddy_Enrique   Buenos dias oleonard :)
14:37 oleonard         Hi #koha
14:09 * Freddy_Enrique goes blue screen
14:08 Archie           if im using -l there is no log (at least i am not aware of) if am using -l=filepath then bulkmarcimport is not working
14:08 Archie           now how in the name of everything that is sacred do you make bulkmarcimport.pl to log
14:08 Archie           i've come to you in my hour of need as i am unable to understand an issue ive found
14:06 Archie           hey Koha!
14:01 tcohen           :-D
14:01 tcohen           but it can be done
14:01 tcohen           I'm not sure it makes sense
14:01 tcohen           try it
14:00 tcohen           they get stored |-separated
14:00 tcohen           they can be repeatable
13:41 Freddy_Enrique   oh! I didn't explain myself correctly. You are right
13:41 huginn           Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=21774 critical, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Signed Off , Cloned item subfields disappear when editing an item
13:41 Freddy_Enrique   oh... I asked because of bug 21774
13:41 magnuse          but you can have different items with different CCODEs attached to the same record
13:40 magnuse          CCODE is stored in one field in the db, it can only take one value
13:40 magnuse          Freddy_Enrique: no
13:39 Freddy_Enrique   an*
13:39 Freddy_Enrique   A question my friends. Is it possible to assign a item in more than one CCODE????
13:39 tcohen           :-D
13:37 marcelr          better than manana
13:37 marcelr          tcohen++
13:36 tcohen           Sure, I'll take care later today :-D
13:33 huginn           Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=21774 critical, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Signed Off , Cloned item subfields disappear when editing an item
13:33 magnuse          bug 21774
13:31 marcelr          tcohen: very small
13:31 marcelr          tcohen: any chance to qa 21774
13:31 tcohen           hola Freddy_Enrique
13:31 tcohen           hi marcelr
13:31 marcelr          hi tcohen
13:30 tcohen           17.11 here
13:30 Freddy_Enrique   17.05 here
13:30 Freddy_Enrique   hi tcohen :)
13:30 sophie_m         Nevertheless, I'll try the template modification if I am the only one that it disturb...
13:30 tcohen           morning!
13:29 sophie_m         marcelr: so are most of our clients, but its only now that they report this change.
13:28 marcelr          sophie_m: most are on 17.11 i suspect
13:26 sophie_m         And I am not sure that every Koha in production are all up to date with the last version :)
13:25 sophie_m         cait : that's why I'm surprised nobody else reacts when it changed
13:24 cait             or 1.5 if it changed with 17.11
13:23 cait             sophie_m: i believe you - but ti's 2 years already
13:21 marcelr          hi #koha
13:20 Freddy_Enrique   Saludos #Koha
12:51 sophie_m         cait : I have checked. For our customers that are still in 16.11, <<today>> is replaced with date only
12:51 cait             if it was changed in 17.11 it's been like that for a long itme
12:50 cait             so changing it back without hte option to have the time might be a surprise too
12:50 cait             sophie_m: I amnot sure, but i feel it had the time for a while now
12:38 sophie_m         Until now I didn't have to add dateonly. If I choose this solution, I had to modify all the templates of all our clients. If everybody agrees that today should be date only, it is better to change it in the source code
12:35 paxed            sophie_m: can't you use <<today | dateonly>> ?
12:29 sophie_m         Thanks magnuse. It has changed between 16.11 and 17.11 and I can't find why. I will file a bug
12:19 magnuse          sophie_m: i would expect date only
11:51 sophie_m         For people who are using notices in Koha, using <<today>> in your template, how do you expect the final output, date only or date and time ?
11:51 andreashm        hi sophie_m
11:50 sophie_m         Hi #koha
11:38 andreashm        hi ere!
11:37 ere              hi andreashm
11:26 * andreashm      waves
11:17 tuxayo           I mean this https://koha-community.org/manual/18.05/en/html/
11:16 tuxayo           documentation: Does anyone know if the manual translations are synced with Pootle for every minor release?
11:16 tuxayo           Hi :)
11:16 ere              ashimema: That's an area I don't really know much about. Still, it would be better to not tie the server on a specific search engine implementation if possible..
11:16 kivilahtio       ashimema: agreed
11:11 ashimema         Would be nice to join the 20th century's
11:11 * ashimema       is keen to investigate the run koha as a mojo app at some point too..
11:10 * ashimema       hasn't got time to look at the moment
11:10 ashimema         I presume it's a self contained Daemon as its uses Dancer...
11:09 ashimema         Wouldn't have thought that would be very hard to convert to a mojo app
11:07 ere              magnuse, cait: Yeah, well, that was just something I wrapped up real quick, but from what I recall from talking with kidclamp it would be better to have something more generic. I'll give it a bit more thought as soon as possible..
10:55 cait             true
10:53 magnuse          ooh, that would be a Very Good enh, though!
10:52 huginn           Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=21210 new feature, P5 - low, ---, ere.maijala, ASSIGNED , Elasticsearch based SRU server
10:52 cait             bug 21210
10:52 cait             yeah it was my thinking we might want to discuss this
10:51 magnuse          which patch?
10:51 magnuse          cait: we might not want to use both mojo and dancer...
10:47 cait             there is a patch requiring Dancer...
10:47 cait             hm
08:08 ashimema         okies
08:08 ere              ashimema: That'd be great, thanks!
08:08 ashimema         I'm happy to add the trailes to the commits for you now if you like.. lots of it hasn't been pushed yet
08:08 ashimema         no worries
08:07 ere              ashimema: Ok, I'll try to remember that in the future :)
08:02 ashimema         it gives exposure and helps encourage others to contribute too :)
08:01 ashimema         I'm all for recognising contributions every way we can ;)
08:01 ashimema         well, if yuo think they'd like to get recognition that you've worked on it on their time then feel free to add the trailers ;)
08:01 ashimema         morning
07:55 ere              ashimema: Hi, I'm not really sure if my work is "sponsored". I mean I work for the National Library of Finland and just my job. :)
07:53 ere              good morning
07:51 alex_a           bonjour
07:43 wahanui          hey, reiveune
07:43 reiveune         hello
07:39 magnuse          \o/