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22:36 caroline bye everyone!
20:37 * CrispyBran waves
19:58 oleonard Happy weekend everyone
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19:16 Freddy_Enrique ok... I'll try with your tips :)
19:16 Freddy_Enrique I thought I could solve the problem with reboot, but nothing happens
19:10 oleonard The packages have tools for creating backups but I haven't used them: https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Commands_provided_by_the_Debian_packages#koha-dump
19:09 oleonard It seems much more likely that the problem is in how Koha is running, but maybe I'm wrong.
19:09 oleonard Freddy_Enrique: I mean if the problem is how Koha is running as opposed to what the data is in the database
19:08 Freddy_Enrique with bad... what do you mean ?:(
19:08 oleonard You use mysqldump to back up the mysql database
19:08 Freddy_Enrique I saw something about automatic cron
19:07 Freddy_Enrique oleonard: Uhm, and is there a specific folder where I can get the back up?
19:05 oleonard Trivial fix for a bug that really shouldn't be in the next release
19:05 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=21805 major, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Duplicate include file in search results template causes JS error
19:04 oleonard Bug 21805
18:59 * cbrannon[A] is now away - Reason : Auto-Away after 30 minutes
18:58 oleonard Freddy_Enrique: If the database isn't bad you could try doing a clean installation and importing the db into that.
18:53 Freddy_Enrique uhm, any way to get back to what is used to be?
18:53 Freddy_Enrique now he cant'see anything even in the intranet
18:53 Freddy_Enrique Guys.... my friend's koha went crazy
18:29 huginn CrispyBran: Highest karma: "Joubu" (717), "cait" (635), and "tcohen" (376). Lowest karma: "failed" (-38), "-" (-38), and "ie" (-38). You (CrispyBran) are ranked 71 out of 890.
18:29 CrispyBran @karma
18:28 huginn CrispyBran: Joubu was last seen in #koha 2 hours, 8 minutes, and 46 seconds ago: <Joubu> have a great week-end #koha
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18:24 ashimema jenkins++
18:15 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=21346 major, P5 - low, ---, cbrannon, Signed Off , Clean up dialogs in returns.pl / Fix waiting holds at wrong location bug
18:15 CrispyBran bug 21346 - Yay!
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18:03 tcohen +jenkins
17:38 koha-jenkins Project Koha_18.05_U18 build #119: SUCCESS in 45 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_18.05_U18/119/
17:25 ashimema Fixed? I thought it was already happy
17:07 koha-jenkins Project Koha_18.05_D9 build #117: FIXED in 28 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_18.05_D9/117/
17:07 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
17:04 Freddy_Enrique when searching the same branch on the opac though, just appear 5 records
17:04 koha-jenkins Project Koha_18.05_D8 build #116: SUCCESS in 22 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_18.05_D8/116/
17:03 Freddy_Enrique in the intranet, when searching in one of the appear 520 records
17:03 Freddy_Enrique They have 5 library branches
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16:44 caroline Freddy_Enrique: is it just the new records (from the migration) that don't appear?
16:41 koha-jenkins Project Koha_18.05_U18 build #118: FIXED in 31 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_18.05_U18/118/
16:41 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
16:36 koha-jenkins Project Koha_18.05_D8 build #115: FIXED in 28 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_18.05_D8/115/
16:36 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
16:30 Freddy_Enrique yep, that problem began when they did a little migration
16:28 caroline did the opac ever work?
16:28 caroline not lost
16:28 caroline If the records are in the intranet, they are there
16:27 Freddy_Enrique using*
16:27 Freddy_Enrique he is sing 17.05
16:27 Freddy_Enrique it's like if it doesn't have records in the fisrt place
16:27 caroline at least the records are not lost
16:26 Freddy_Enrique In the intranet he can see al his records, but on the opac nothing pops up
16:26 Freddy_Enrique I see.. what happens is that a partner of mine has one particular problem
16:25 oleonard Freddy_Enrique: No, not automatically.
16:24 Freddy_Enrique If so, where could I find it?
16:24 Freddy_Enrique does the system automatically generate back ups?
16:23 Freddy_Enrique Excuse guy, one question
16:21 tcohen koha-jenkins: status
16:21 wahanui i already had it that way, AnnaBoten.
16:21 AnnaBoten Error: "koha-jenkins:" is not a valid command.
16:21 tcohen !koha-jenkins: status
16:21 caroline are we supposed to shoot the ducks?
16:20 AnnaBoten \_o< quack!
16:20 CrispyBran you too Joubu
16:19 Joubu have a great week-end #koha
16:19 * CrispyBran waves
16:17 caroline uh oh!
16:17 AnnaBoten The hunt starts now!
16:17 Joubu !start
16:16 * ashimema can't remember the last time he say AnnaBoten (IRC)
16:15 reiveune bye
16:14 tcohen WARNING: org.acegisecurity.userdetails.UsernameNotFoundException: Password is not set:
16:14 Joubu the doc says you should be either op or voice
16:14 wahanui i already had it that way, AnnaBoten.
16:14 AnnaBoten Error: "jenkins" is not a valid command.
16:14 Joubu !jenkins help
16:14 Joubu should work
16:14 AnnaBoten Error: "koha-jenkins" is not a valid command.
16:14 tcohen !koha-jenkins
16:13 wahanui i already had it that way, AnnaBoten.
16:13 AnnaBoten Error: "jenkins" is not a valid command.
16:13 Joubu !jenkins status
16:13 Joubu the command is !jenkins
16:13 tcohen koha-jenkins: help
16:13 AnnaBoten Error: "koha-jenkins:" is not a valid command.
16:13 tcohen !koha-jenkins: help
16:09 Joubu I changed the name, 'jenkins' is registered and so becomes Guestxxx
16:08 caroline is it because he changed his name to koha-jenkins that it's not working?
16:08 ashimema I think Jenkins has a full belly from all the code kidclamp, fridolin and I are feeding him at the minute
16:07 caroline Joubu: I think jenkins is hiding from you...
16:06 ashimema even more wierd when your relying on those code to write code that actions upon them ;)
16:06 Joubu ok, I give up
16:06 wahanui i already had it that way, AnnaBoten.
16:06 AnnaBoten Error: "jenkins" is not a valid command.
16:06 Joubu !jenkins status
16:06 caroline there's also C and CR for credit
16:06 caroline ok thanks... It's just weird when we're translating
16:06 tcohen indeed
16:05 ashimema tcohen, josef and I are on a mission to clean that all up though at the moment ;)
16:05 ashimema ;)
16:05 ashimema if you want a Koha dev to cry.. ask them to look at account codes.
16:05 ashimema history
16:03 caroline in accounts.inc, why is there W for Writeoff, but also WO for Writeoff?
16:01 ashimema lol
16:01 ashimema probably because I keep feeding him?
16:01 ashimema odd
15:58 oleonard josef_moravec++
15:56 Joubu ashimema: I have no idea why jenkins is not shuting down
15:53 pastebot Someone at 127.0.0.1 pasted "lol maybe not" (21 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/177
15:52 Joubu "I am sure there is something useful I left behind in one of them"...
15:52 oleonard It's like the books at the bottom of the pile you checked out at the library: You're not getting to those, just return them.
15:52 eythian it used to get quite bad when I didn't know that git stash apply wasn't the same as git stash pop
15:51 ashimema I have a max of 6 or so
15:51 eythian I regularly zap my stash stack
15:51 ashimema yowsers
15:51 Joubu oops
15:51 Joubu git stash list|wc -l # 339
15:50 ashimema know that feeling
15:49 ashimema hehe
15:49 oleonard For me 'git stash list' is like opening a mysterious time capsule which was buried by another person
15:49 ashimema so I have my longer running work on one branch and then lots of quick throw away branches on the other worktree
15:49 ashimema so i have in effect two clones at all times (only they don't take up the space of two clones of course)
15:48 ashimema I also use git worktree
15:48 Joubu and stash pop on the wrong branch will mess everything up :)
15:48 ashimema true
15:48 Joubu yeah but then you have 30 stashes and you do not remember which one was the good noe
15:47 Joubu maybe there is a --no-check flag for git commit
15:47 ashimema I tend to 'stash' for that
15:47 ashimema make sense
15:47 ashimema fair enough
15:47 Joubu and quickly
15:47 Joubu the pre-commit hook drove me crazy, because I want to `git commit -a -m"wip"` without any checks
15:47 Freddy_Enrique uhm... I can not put arroba here... damn alt+64
15:46 ashimema and a pre-commit hook too
15:46 ashimema yeah.. I use a slightly adapted pre-push hook
15:45 ashimema lol
15:45 Joubu ashimema: when I was RM I used the pre-push hook, from https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Release_management
15:44 Joubu nope I am no longer running it
15:43 ashimema and the 'use' statement mis-identification on user_id lines
15:43 ashimema like the experimental use of give and when
15:42 ashimema there's some annoyances I'd like to fix
15:42 ashimema is what you put on the wiki what you're running with at the moment out of interest Joubu
15:42 koha-jenkins Project Koha_18.05_D9 build #115: UNSTABLE in 46 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_18.05_D9/115/
15:42 * ashimema needs to work on his pre-commit hook a little
15:41 ashimema at least that's what tomas said in the bug
15:41 Joubu tcohen: ^ ?
15:40 ashimema nope.. seems not
15:40 Joubu accountlines.manager_id is not a FK (??)
15:38 Joubu ashimema: it's ok if you need borrowernumber I'd say
15:38 ashimema thanks for catching it Joubu
15:36 * ashimema thinks the weekend can't come soon enough
15:35 ashimema oh ffs.. I even tested it.. but entirely forgot to refresh memcached between the config switch
15:35 Joubu (yes I know, you are not adding the new param)
15:35 Joubu 'borrowernumber => $logged_in_user->borrowernumber' reads better
15:35 Joubu ashimema: ok, so yes. That is confusing IMO
15:34 ashimema curse our objects/dbic/tables not agreeing with each other.
15:34 oleonard ashimema: I think this is what you need: http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=blob;f=koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/css/staff-global.css;h=5c219a8806741249567b2b9d6d47eda3eff5fa7f;hb=0ad36566b8975dcbbd5d939a886358dfd180cb68#l995
15:34 ashimema ->borrowernumber
15:34 Joubu you are expecting userid?
15:34 ashimema nope.. not at all
15:34 ashimema pretty sure
15:33 Joubu sure about that?
15:33 Joubu ashimema: + user_id => $logged_in_user->id
15:33 ashimema it just sorta feels a bit naughty
15:33 ashimema as no classes actually refer to it after the rest of the patch is backported..
15:33 ashimema or I could be super lazy and just not clean up staff-global.css to be entirely honest ;)
15:32 * oleonard checks
15:32 oleonard Oh sure, no problem
15:31 ashimema fancy walking me through the sccs => css backport for that?
15:31 ashimema https://gitlab.com/mrenvoize/Koha/commit/52028d9932ce1d10ad690261d8f6983b074b2909
15:31 ashimema favour?
15:31 ashimema hugs
15:31 oleonard Yes
15:31 ashimema oleonard around?
15:28 ashimema grr.. dopy typo
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15:22 ashimema maybe not me
15:22 ashimema oh..
15:22 ashimema poop
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15:09 Joubu great :)
15:09 oleonard It's in progress
15:09 Joubu oleonard: did you write a patch for the screenshot you sent?
15:05 caroline I like it, it's much clearer
15:04 oleonard caroline: Yes to your button idea
15:03 oleonard Those descriptions do appear on the page when a particular category is selected but it's very unobtrusive.
15:02 cait nice!
15:02 oleonard http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=blob;f=koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/admin/authorised_values.tt;h=14b584f355bc3eccf89842d96c649cb0167e78fc;hb=HEAD#l184
15:02 cait and hte number of entried for each
15:02 cait having a descrption field for displaying info about the ones you added might be nice
15:02 cait i didn't notice the interface contained any :)
15:02 cait you can add your own... so maybe a mixed approach
15:01 oleonard cait: Currently the template contains *some* of those descriptions but not all. All we have to do is add the rest and keep them up to date.
15:01 cait but the file for example is not in the installers... it's global (nice)
15:01 caroline cait why? Isn't the description in the template?
15:01 cait i mean we could add the description to the db
15:01 cait not easily
15:01 cait oleonard: that would not work for translations
15:00 caroline Will the button "New auth value for Asort1" be moved to the end of the row?
15:00 caroline cool!
15:00 oleonard Because if you think about it, the current interface is a weird anomaly.
14:59 oleonard All of this because I think the authorized values list should look something like this: https://zivotdesign.com/p/#1/15417755027092
14:58 caroline added CAND and CONTROL_NUM_SEQUENCE to the docs to-do :)
14:57 Joubu they are in the table to have a foreign key constraint at DB level
14:56 Joubu yep
14:56 oleonard Ah so branches, itemtypes and cn_source must be deliberately excluded from the authorised value editor
14:55 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_U18 build #94: SUCCESS in 45 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U18/94/
14:55 cait dupicate
14:55 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19263 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, carnold, RESOLVED FIXED, Advanced Editor - Rancor - Add auto control number (001) widget
14:54 wahanui bug 19263 is ready for inspection
14:54 cait bug 19263
14:54 cait i remember corilynn was working on it
14:54 cait caroline: hm, it hink thereis anotherbug that was pushed
14:53 cait could it be a leftover fom earlier testing?
14:53 cait huh
14:52 Archie^ hmm if i'm using bulkmarcimport -append -l is there some default drectory logs are stored ?
14:52 caroline cait: bug 18418 is FQA, is the auth value category added by another bug?
14:51 Joubu installer files are sometimes wrong
14:51 cait i think because the installers drifted apart... maybe? not sure about that one
14:51 caroline why is it mandatory in english but optional in french?
14:50 cait AND
14:50 cait and prelinekd in the unimarc frameworks: installer/data/mysql/fr-FR/marcflavour/unimarc_lecture_pub/Obligatoire/autorites_norme_unimarc.sql:INSERT INTO `auth_subfield_structure` (`authtypecode`, `tagfield`, `tagsubfield`, `liblibrarian`, `libopac`, `repeatable`, `mandatory`, `tab`, `authorised_value`, `value_builder`, `seealso`, `isurl`, `hidden`, `linkid`, `kohafield`, `frameworkcode`) VALUES ('SNC', '250', 'b', 'Statut', '', 0, 0, -1, 'C
14:50 cait hm mor ethe canadian one not unimarc
14:50 cait it appears in the installer for unimarc
14:50 cait nstaller/data/mysql/fr-CA/facultatif/auth_val.sql
14:50 caroline unimarc... you can always count on it to confuse us ;)
14:49 cait CAND i thinks is some UNIMARC thing
14:49 cait for the latter
14:49 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18418 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, nick, Failed QA , Advanced Editor - Rancor - Add a control number widget
14:49 cait caroline: bug 18418
14:48 caroline so were just missing CAND and CONTROL_NUM_SEQUENCE in the manual
14:48 cait but maintained not as an authorised value
14:48 cait correct
14:48 cait and it will give alistof those things from the other tables
14:48 caroline that's what I thought... They are used in reports as well
14:47 cait but if you look at the framework configuration, you can pick them there
14:47 cait yes, because you can't change them
14:47 caroline branches and cn_source are not there https://snag.gy/CiQoh3.jpg
14:47 cait a feature for rancor to generate 001 values
14:47 cait the control number one is brand new
14:47 cait branches, itemtypes and cn_source are 'fake' ones - I think because the frameworks treat them as authorised values
14:46 cait lost track, but are you still wondering about the auth values?
14:46 oleonard I don't know if that indicates a problem with the installation process but you can run 'sudo apt-get install libsys-cpu-perl' to fix it
14:44 caroline Its not blocking me from continuing, but I just find it weird
14:44 caroline going through web installer and I'm missing a Perl Module called "Sys::CPU". If I do sudo cpan Sys::CPU it says Warning: Cannot install Sys::CPU, don't know what it is. is this normal?
14:40 Joubu they are
14:40 oleonard caroline: Maybe they're not inserted by default after all? I assumed so because auth_val_cat.sql is in data/mysql/mandatory
14:40 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D8 build #101: FIXED in 26 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D8/101/
14:40 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
14:39 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9 build #605: SUCCESS in 30 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9/605/
14:37 * caroline is going through the whole web installer thing again... ¬_¬
14:35 caroline I'm checking my master now, but in my 18.05 they are not there
14:35 caroline I've never seen them in admin > auth values
14:35 wahanui i already had it that way, AnnaBoten.
14:35 AnnaBoten Error: "jenkins" is not a valid command.
14:35 Joubu !jenkins help
14:35 caroline I think they are populated automatically and used for reports
14:34 oleonard ...which I think may only be used when displaying authorised values in administration
14:34 oleonard In the authorised_value_categories table
14:34 oleonard caroline: They are authorised value categories
14:33 caroline even CONTROL_NUM_SEQUENCE, I'm not sure I've ever seen that in auth values
14:33 * magnuse have fun #koha!
14:33 caroline oleonard: are branches, cn_source and itemtypes really authorised values?
14:33 wahanui i already had it that way, AnnaBoten.
14:33 AnnaBoten Error: "jenkins" is not a valid command.
14:33 Joubu !jenkins status
14:33 oleonard Perhaps someone else knows why branches, CAND, cn_source, CONTROL_NUM_SEQUENCE, itemtypes are in auth_val_cat.sql but undocumented?
14:32 Joubu thx magnuse
14:32 oleonard caroline: Do you know anything about them?
14:32 magnuse what should i do?
14:32 oleonard caroline: I'm looking at authorised_values_categories and I notice that some which are inserted by default in Koha are not documented: branches, CAND, cn_source, CONTROL_NUM_SEQUENCE, itemtypes
14:31 oleonard magnuse? gmcharlt? ^^
14:28 Joubu Could someone op me?
14:22 oleonard This is just like the opening sequence of The Terminator!
14:22 ashimema Lol
14:22 Joubu help meeeeeeeee
14:21 wahanui i already had it that way, AnnaBoten.
14:21 AnnaBoten Error: "jenkins" is not a valid command.
14:21 Joubu !jenkins help
14:19 Joubu you are all stupid bots
14:19 wahanui i already had it that way, AnnaBoten.
14:19 AnnaBoten Error: "jenkins" is not a valid command.
14:19 Joubu !jenkins build Koha_Master_U18
14:19 wahanui i already had it that way, AnnaBoten.
14:19 AnnaBoten Error: "jenkins" is not a valid command.
14:19 Joubu !jenkins abort Koha_Master_U18
14:09 Archie^ oh sweet thanks
14:09 cait or koha-shell with the instance name
14:09 cait kshell
14:09 Joubu wt.
14:09 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 21413: (QA follow-up) Fix tests <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=08fa7014c065e5a5bf3d2e9e6fd50c52f45a068a>
14:08 Joubu koha-jenkins: !jenkins status
14:07 Joubu koha-jenkins: status!
14:07 wahanui i already had it that way, AnnaBoten.
14:07 AnnaBoten Error: "jenkins" is not a valid command.
14:07 Joubu !jenkins status
14:07 Archie^ no i mean there was some sort of a bash instance root_password, or something
14:06 cait -h?
14:05 Archie^ hey cait can you remind me what was the way to run bulkmarcimport.pl ?
13:59 Joubu ho ho, slow down bots
13:59 wahanui i already had it that way, AnnaBoten.
13:59 AnnaBoten Error: "jenkins" is not a valid command.
13:59 Guest2299 Joubu you may not issue bot commands in this chat!
13:59 Joubu !jenkins status
13:57 cait lol
13:56 AnnaBoten Error: "jenkins" is not a valid command.
13:56 Guest2299 Joubu you may not issue bot commands in this chat!
13:56 Joubu !jenkins status
13:55 oleonard This authorised value category related to Housebound delivery, HSBND_FREQ, reads "Husband frequency" to me, and... you go girl!
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13:52 cait oleonard: i thikn i got a bit over-excited late lats night (blames too much tea :) )
13:50 Freddy_Enrique Hi there Caroline
13:50 caroline Hi Freddy_Enrique!
13:49 Freddy_Enrique Greetings koha :)
13:46 oleonard If it works it works!
13:46 cait oleonard: hope my rebase was ok for the basket column patch
13:46 caroline good morning everyone!
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13:00 Joubu but not sure it will be backportable easily
13:00 fridolin thanks
12:59 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19802 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, RESOLVED FIXED, Move Selenium code to its own module
12:59 Joubu fridolin: it's bug 19802
12:57 fridolin ah ok in src lib/selenium
12:56 * ashimema tries to always run tests.. but is faliable ;)
12:55 Joubu but 17.11.x
12:55 Joubu it's not a selenium lib, t::lib::Selenium is part of Koha
12:54 fridolin i dont have Selenium but it should be on jenkins
12:54 fridolin ah yep
12:54 Joubu does not sound random
12:54 Joubu Can't locate t/lib/Selenium.pm
12:54 fridolin yep but its something random i thuink
12:53 Joubu fridolin: hum, do not you run tests when you backport?
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12:43 andreashm =)
12:43 ashimema Point Of Sale inside a browser is just plain hard
12:43 ashimema though getting the right till drawer to open has been 'challenging' to say the least
12:42 ashimema our local council customers love it.
12:41 andreashm ashimema: sounds interesting the work you've done with "cash management".
12:40 andreashm (we=stockholm uni)
12:39 andreashm tcohen: ^^
12:38 andreashm and how we feel the ui needs improvement
12:38 andreashm all the work being done there
12:38 tcohen what aboutn accountlines?
12:38 oleonard Hi #koha
12:37 coyas i hate
12:37 coyas i hated
12:37 andreashm hi tcohen! talking accountlines. =)
12:37 coyas my company buy this server
12:32 coyas i like fedora or debian
12:31 coyas i am not confortable with centos, i never had used it before
12:30 ashimema the packages built for debian are by in far the easiest way to install and maintain these days
12:30 ashimema indeed coyas.. if you're competant and confortable in CentOS you should be able to run it.. it's just not recommended and you'r unlikely to get much useufl help from here as we're all using Debian (or debian derivatives) these days
12:29 ashimema we couldn't submit it before now because Accounts was such a mess and a fast moving mess at that.
12:29 coyas this site has same tips https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_3.10_on_Centos_6.3_x86_64_en
12:28 ashimema UI wise.. I've not reached that area at all yet.. but PTFS-E has some improvements they want to make based on top of this.. we have a 'Cash Management' enhancement which a couple of customers have been running for a couple of years now.. it adds tills and cashing up functionality along with change calculation
12:27 ashimema the actions log may have some minor changes in it's content to make it more consistent
12:27 tcohen hi
12:27 ashimema allot of the work we're doing is to ensure the existing tables are getting properly populated for all cases.
12:26 ashimema most db changes are already there.. account_offsets was a big improvment
12:26 coyas i will try install koha in CentOS
12:25 coyas kkkk
12:25 coyas i don't know how i will configure the server
12:25 coyas will be a nightmare if i change the CentOS to Debian, i will lose cpanel, WHM
12:24 andreashm my focus is of course from the end-user perspective. =)
12:24 andreashm ashimema: any planned changes to the db? or ui?
12:23 andreashm seems like a lot of it is moving thing to Koha::Account
12:23 coyas i'm back
12:23 wahanui what's up, coyas
12:23 coyas hi
12:23 andreashm good good
12:20 ashimema but there is more to come :)
12:20 ashimema yup..
12:19 andreashm ashimema: it seems a lot from the graph you posted is on its way into 18.11
12:06 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=21680 trivial, P5 - low, ---, josef.moravec, Pushed to Stable , Remove dead code C4::Accounts::fixaccounts
12:06 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=21608 major, P5 - low, ---, nick, Passed QA , Arranging holds priority with dropdowns is faulty when there are waiting/intransit holds
12:06 * andreashm has bug 21608 and bug 21680 open on tabs next to each other, went of to read an e-mail, and was then very confused when returning to the browser. maybe it's a good thing it is Friday
12:04 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=21526 blocker, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Passed QA , TT variables used to build a link should be uri filtered
12:04 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=21576 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Add a developer script to automatically fix missing filters
12:04 Joubu marcelr: Was your comment on bug 21576 actually for bug 21526?
12:04 andreashm magnuse: maybe wait 'til we actually do anything? ;-)
12:03 magnuse andreashm++
11:39 * andreashm should maybe push our UX:er to work with it
11:39 andreashm Reserves page is in sore need of UX too...
11:38 andreashm review
11:37 andreashm Because it's just to much trouble in that area right now...
11:36 andreashm I'll put in on my (way to long) todo list to rwview and see whre/if we can possibly help out.
11:36 andreashm sounds like a good plan.
11:36 andreashm Joubu: that's what I usually do! =)
11:36 ashimema that's the plan anyways..
11:36 ashimema then enhanceing on top of that
11:36 ashimema allot of it is about pushing the functionality which currently spread all over koha's codebase into a couple of well formed modules and then using those everywhere.. stop us re-inventing the wheel so often and missing bits when doing so
11:35 * andreashm just think he might have burnt his eyes from looking at that graph! =)
11:35 Joubu and hi #koha
11:35 Joubu andreashm: you should ask tcohen or khall
11:34 ashimema there's a bunch of stuff hanging off 21002 which I intend to get moving straight after 18.11 release
11:34 andreashm josef_moravec: thanks! I think I've looked there, but found it hard to see how all the pieces fit together
11:34 ashimema https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/showdependencygraph.cgi?id=14825 for the scary dependancy tree
11:33 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14825 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, NEW , Accounts Rewrite Omnibus
11:33 josef_moravec andreashm: see bug 14825
11:33 ashimema right at this particular moment we're working through cleaning up backend code there andreashm.. but I'm all ears for UI/UX improvements.. sure we could onboard Owen ;)
11:32 * andreashm feel that how it is displayed in the UI needs some serious UX work
11:32 andreashm anyplace one can get an overview of whats being done in regards to accounts/accountlines?
11:29 ashimema many hands and all that
11:29 ashimema accountlines is moving forward fairly nicely now at least.. with Tomas, Yourself (josef) and I all attacking it I feel we're moving in the right direction
11:28 ashimema I think reserves/recalls should be written as a single well through feature myself.. not two very distinct things
11:28 andreashm lost of issues in regards to those two in the library here
11:28 ashimema I've already got 'Recalls' a the top of my list for next cycle (along with the accounts tree I've built)
11:28 andreashm reserves and accountlines are the areas that would need the most improvement in my opinion.
11:27 andreashm yes indeed
11:27 ashimema totally agree.. perhaps a target for next cycle
11:27 * josef_moravec thinks C4::Reserves needs much attention :(
11:26 ashimema it's ripe for a run on building a tonne more tests and then refactoring the heck out of.
11:26 ashimema I know the feeling on that one marcelr.. it's an area of code I'm not confident in at all regarding the foundations
11:23 andreashm each physical copy (=item) needs it's own row, not just a value
11:23 marcelr 21608 holds
11:23 josef_moravec if the other system has items in another field, you can remap it in koha, or transofrm it in marcedit before importing into koha
11:22 marcelr ashimema: yet another PQA but not that comfortable..
11:22 * ashimema goes back to release maintanence.. thanks for advicing josef :)
11:22 andreashm Archie^: does the old system have information about each item/copy (barcodes, or other id etc?) or just a value on copies that are connected to the marcxml?
11:22 ashimema I'm sure we've pointed you to these a few times already
11:22 josef_moravec Archie^: somehow, koha has field 952, it is repetable and every field is one item
11:21 ashimema you need field per item
11:21 Archie^ im thinking maybe koha has some 9xx field that correlates to "amount of items" ?
11:20 josef_moravec if so, you can handle it and import
11:19 josef_moravec maybe they have items in different marc field?
11:19 Archie^ a different system that i'm trying to migrate into koha
11:19 josef_moravec Archie^: what is the source of these records?
11:18 Archie^ but table_a contains only singular marc21xml records so KOHA sees them as singular aswell
11:18 ashimema it should handle items for you
11:18 josef_moravec Archie^: so what's wrong? The record does not contain items?
11:18 Archie^ yah i did that
11:17 josef_moravec from GUI
11:17 josef_moravec Archie^: The best way to insert records and items is through stage/import tools
11:16 Archie^ so i migrated all marc21xml copies of into koha, but now i need to somehow modify the amount items in library
11:15 Archie^ i have a database of different system that has something similar to "table_a contains marc21xml" "table_b contains number of copies in library and id to table_a"
11:14 Archie^ well that complicates things
11:12 ashimema erm.. items I think
11:10 Archie^ what is the table that let's me see how many copies of books are left in a library? biblio has no information that regard
11:09 ashimema for dev I set my to `unstable`.. means you get dependancy updates as soon as Mirko packages them up :)
11:09 ashimema I've been giving people this link allot lately: https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian#Set_up_package_sources
11:08 ashimema you 'might' want to check your sources.list.d that your tracking the nightly/dev track
11:08 AndrewIsh I'll check
11:08 * ashimema seems to remember you already have the package repos setup on that dev server
11:07 AndrewIsh Thanks ashimema
11:07 ashimema `apt install koha-perldeps` AndrewIsh (IRC)
11:07 coyas what i am trying to do is more than install koha
11:07 marcelr coyas: it would be the best choice
11:06 coyas the server OS to debian
11:05 coyas no i am justing, looking if is possible to change to server OS to debian
11:05 AndrewIsh I just pulled latest master and got a bunch of "Perl modules missing" messages from the Web installer. Never seen that before, should I just install them manually?
10:56 ashimema our first customers we on centos.. was fun getting stuff to build on it..
10:56 marcelr you are
10:55 ashimema I thought I was being helpful ;)
10:55 ashimema oops
10:55 marcelr we scared him
10:55 ashimema did we loose coyas
10:55 marcelr you dont like to install koha on centos
10:53 ashimema but it's been a decade since I've used it ;)
10:53 ashimema we ran centos way back when
10:48 marcelr no centos for me
10:41 * ashimema got CentOS from the hosting company blerb.. you might not be on CentOS at all?
10:40 ashimema it will run on CentOS, but you'll need to do a fairly significant amount of work yourself to get it working in that environment (and it's not officially supported by the community and as such you won't get as much support here)
10:40 ashimema you might struggle with CentOS.. we're very Debian centric with packages etc built for it..
10:40 josef_moravec coyas: but which operating system do you have installed on that server? If any... if not, you will need to install one first
10:37 coyas i am using inmotionhosting.com (dedicated server)
10:37 coyas i am from cape verde islands, africa
10:36 josef_moravec coyas: hi, what is the OS of that server? In which state are you now?
10:35 coyas i need advise
10:35 coyas i have a dedicated server and i need to install koha
10:35 coyas i need a help with something
10:27 magnuse hello coyas!
10:23 coyas hello koha world
10:03 Archie^ ahh thanks
10:00 josef_moravec so the it is old_issues and issues tables the latter is for current checkouts, the first is for returned checkouts
09:59 Archie^ if a customer comes into the library, checks out a book
09:59 Archie^ no i mean from Database perspective
09:59 josef_moravec Archie^: do you mean from opac? There is a link "your reading history"
09:57 Archie^ i mean if i as a customer check out a book, where will it be seen?
09:56 josef_moravec Archie^: probably old_issues
09:56 Archie^ Hi Koha! is there a table in which i can see if a borrower has borrowed any books (or if library lended out any books) ?
09:53 cait you could, I think
09:48 andreashm I wonder if I should turn it off.
09:46 andreashm well, I don't think we use that report either
09:45 andreashm bah. =)
09:45 cait holds to pull is something else :)
09:45 cait holds queue
09:44 andreashm yeah, we don't use holds to pull
09:44 cait the holds queue report that is
09:44 andreashm ok
09:44 cait we have it running for all libraries, but most don't use it
09:44 cait shoudl not hurt you
09:44 andreashm makes sense then
09:44 andreashm was looking at daily
09:44 cait http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=blob;f=debian/koha-common.cron.hourly;h=4db64bbaa2195779e8b3e6acec0b30a691048bde;hb=edf50215b5e2282568f12f4d1e33dd8e56a467c8
09:44 andreashm ah yes, there it is
09:43 cait I think it runs hourly
09:43 andreashm cait: oh, in what cron?
09:41 cait it could have reactivated as it's in the standard cron
09:40 cait andreashm: are you sure about the job not running?
09:40 cait I wonder what that was about
09:36 huginn andreashm: khall was last seen in #koha 1 week, 6 days, 18 hours, 52 minutes, and 30 seconds ago: <khall> cait: I love it, get oleonard on that stat!
09:36 andreashm @seen khall
09:36 andreashm where is khall when you need him? ;-)
09:18 andreashm ah, it could be the hold_itemtype_limit?
09:14 andreashm is there anything else that adds data here? item-level holds in general or something?
09:13 andreashm and looking at dev servers that has somewhat older data, there are rows there too.
09:13 andreashm nope, seems recent
09:11 cait it might beold yes
09:10 andreashm Maybe old stuff. No timestamp in that table.
09:10 andreashm I wonder why we have data in that table... we don't run that job.
09:07 cait np
09:06 andreashm cait: thx
09:02 cait storing the information about who has to pick what, as it can change with every run of hte job
09:02 cait i think it's related to holds_queue
09:01 * andreashm has never noticed the holds_fill_targets table before. anyone know the point of this table?
08:50 unaise hai, there is any possibilities to get all information about a document in koha opac at its first window
08:46 andreashm hi ere!
08:46 ere hi andreashm
08:45 * andreashm waves
08:32 ere ashimema: I can only imagine the 'fun'
08:32 ashimema I'm stuck on a nasty one at the minute.. gotta downgrade my mariadb version to make the test happy locally.
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08:30 ashimema Still, it's gonna be another bumper bugfix release.. these branches are getting good and mature now
08:30 ashimema Backports are starting to get a bit more involved too now. These filters are driving me nuts, hehe
08:29 ashimema Keeping up with kidclamp this week has been 'fun'.. haha
08:29 ashimema Hehe, indeed
08:27 ere This would probably be the time to do it since the ES changes will require reindexing anyway.
08:25 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=21793 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Inconsistences between search fields and mappings
08:25 ere hi cait! Re bug 21793, that reminds me.. there are like a million different ways the fields in ES are named and I'm tempted to just take a sweep and unify them all..
08:14 fridolin XD
08:07 wahanui bonjour, matts
08:07 matts hi
08:04 marcelr fridolin: it was so dry this summer..
07:53 wahanui kia ora, alex_a
07:53 alex_a bonjour
07:50 fridolin ashimema: its raining commits in stable branches ;)
07:50 * fridolin pushing in 17.11.x
07:43 wahanui hey, reiveune
07:43 reiveune hello
07:42 cait bbiab
07:42 * cait waves
07:36 marcelr hi josef_moravec
07:36 josef_moravec hi marcelr, ashimema, fridolin ;)
07:35 marcelr hi #koha
07:23 ashimema Mornin'
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06:41 fridolin yop