Time Nick Message 06:41 fridolin yop 07:19 Guest2299 Project Koha_17.11_D8 build #112: SUCCESS in 35 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_17.11_D8/112/ 07:23 ashimema Mornin' 07:35 marcelr hi #koha 07:36 josef_moravec hi marcelr, ashimema, fridolin ;) 07:36 marcelr hi josef_moravec 07:42 * cait waves 07:42 cait bbiab 07:43 reiveune hello 07:43 wahanui hey, reiveune 07:50 * fridolin pushing in 17.11.x 07:50 fridolin ashimema: its raining commits in stable branches ;) 07:53 alex_a bonjour 07:53 wahanui kia ora, alex_a 08:04 marcelr fridolin: it was so dry this summer.. 08:07 matts hi 08:07 wahanui bonjour, matts 08:14 fridolin XD 08:25 ere hi cait! Re bug 21793, that reminds me.. there are like a million different ways the fields in ES are named and I'm tempted to just take a sweep and unify them all.. 08:25 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=21793 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Inconsistences between search fields and mappings 08:27 ere This would probably be the time to do it since the ES changes will require reindexing anyway. 08:29 ashimema Hehe, indeed 08:29 ashimema Keeping up with kidclamp this week has been 'fun'.. haha 08:30 ashimema Backports are starting to get a bit more involved too now. These filters are driving me nuts, hehe 08:30 ashimema Still, it's gonna be another bumper bugfix release.. these branches are getting good and mature now 08:31 Guest2299 Project Koha_17.11_D8 build #113: UNSTABLE in 33 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_17.11_D8/113/ 08:32 ashimema I'm stuck on a nasty one at the minute.. gotta downgrade my mariadb version to make the test happy locally. 08:32 ere ashimema: I can only imagine the 'fun' 08:45 * andreashm waves 08:46 ere hi andreashm 08:46 andreashm hi ere! 08:50 unaise hai, there is any possibilities to get all information about a document in koha opac at its first window 09:01 * andreashm has never noticed the holds_fill_targets table before. anyone know the point of this table? 09:02 cait i think it's related to holds_queue 09:02 cait storing the information about who has to pick what, as it can change with every run of hte job 09:06 andreashm cait: thx 09:07 cait np 09:10 andreashm I wonder why we have data in that table... we don't run that job. 09:10 andreashm Maybe old stuff. No timestamp in that table. 09:11 cait it might beold yes 09:13 andreashm nope, seems recent 09:13 andreashm and looking at dev servers that has somewhat older data, there are rows there too. 09:14 andreashm is there anything else that adds data here? item-level holds in general or something? 09:18 andreashm ah, it could be the hold_itemtype_limit? 09:36 andreashm where is khall when you need him? ;-) 09:36 andreashm @seen khall 09:36 huginn andreashm: khall was last seen in #koha 1 week, 6 days, 18 hours, 52 minutes, and 30 seconds ago: <khall> cait: I love it, get oleonard on that stat! 09:40 cait I wonder what that was about 09:40 cait andreashm: are you sure about the job not running? 09:41 cait it could have reactivated as it's in the standard cron 09:43 andreashm cait: oh, in what cron? 09:43 cait I think it runs hourly 09:44 andreashm ah yes, there it is 09:44 cait http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=blob;f=debian/koha-common.cron.hourly;h=4db64bbaa2195779e8b3e6acec0b30a691048bde;hb=edf50215b5e2282568f12f4d1e33dd8e56a467c8 09:44 andreashm was looking at daily 09:44 andreashm makes sense then 09:44 cait shoudl not hurt you 09:44 cait we have it running for all libraries, but most don't use it 09:44 andreashm ok 09:44 cait the holds queue report that is 09:44 andreashm yeah, we don't use holds to pull 09:45 cait holds queue 09:45 cait holds to pull is something else :) 09:45 andreashm bah. =) 09:46 andreashm well, I don't think we use that report either 09:48 andreashm I wonder if I should turn it off. 09:53 cait you could, I think 09:56 Archie^ Hi Koha! is there a table in which i can see if a borrower has borrowed any books (or if library lended out any books) ? 09:56 josef_moravec Archie^: probably old_issues 09:57 Archie^ i mean if i as a customer check out a book, where will it be seen? 09:59 josef_moravec Archie^: do you mean from opac? There is a link "your reading history" 09:59 Archie^ no i mean from Database perspective 09:59 Archie^ if a customer comes into the library, checks out a book 10:00 josef_moravec so the it is old_issues and issues tables the latter is for current checkouts, the first is for returned checkouts 10:03 Archie^ ahh thanks 10:23 coyas hello koha world 10:27 magnuse hello coyas! 10:35 coyas i need a help with something 10:35 coyas i have a dedicated server and i need to install koha 10:35 coyas i need advise 10:36 josef_moravec coyas: hi, what is the OS of that server? In which state are you now? 10:37 coyas i am from cape verde islands, africa 10:37 coyas i am using inmotionhosting.com (dedicated server) 10:40 josef_moravec coyas: but which operating system do you have installed on that server? If any... if not, you will need to install one first 10:40 ashimema you might struggle with CentOS.. we're very Debian centric with packages etc built for it.. 10:40 ashimema it will run on CentOS, but you'll need to do a fairly significant amount of work yourself to get it working in that environment (and it's not officially supported by the community and as such you won't get as much support here) 10:41 * ashimema got CentOS from the hosting company blerb.. you might not be on CentOS at all? 10:48 marcelr no centos for me 10:53 ashimema we ran centos way back when 10:53 ashimema but it's been a decade since I've used it ;) 10:55 marcelr you dont like to install koha on centos 10:55 ashimema did we loose coyas 10:55 marcelr we scared him 10:55 ashimema oops 10:55 ashimema I thought I was being helpful ;) 10:56 marcelr you are 10:56 ashimema our first customers we on centos.. was fun getting stuff to build on it.. 11:05 AndrewIsh I just pulled latest master and got a bunch of "Perl modules missing" messages from the Web installer. Never seen that before, should I just install them manually? 11:05 coyas no i am justing, looking if is possible to change to server OS to debian 11:06 coyas the server OS to debian 11:07 marcelr coyas: it would be the best choice 11:07 coyas what i am trying to do is more than install koha 11:07 ashimema `apt install koha-perldeps` AndrewIsh (IRC) 11:07 AndrewIsh Thanks ashimema 11:08 * ashimema seems to remember you already have the package repos setup on that dev server 11:08 AndrewIsh I'll check 11:08 ashimema you 'might' want to check your sources.list.d that your tracking the nightly/dev track 11:09 ashimema I've been giving people this link allot lately: https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian#Set_up_package_sources 11:09 ashimema for dev I set my to `unstable`.. means you get dependancy updates as soon as Mirko packages them up :) 11:10 Archie^ what is the table that let's me see how many copies of books are left in a library? biblio has no information that regard 11:12 ashimema erm.. items I think 11:14 Archie^ well that complicates things 11:15 Archie^ i have a database of different system that has something similar to "table_a contains marc21xml" "table_b contains number of copies in library and id to table_a" 11:16 Archie^ so i migrated all marc21xml copies of into koha, but now i need to somehow modify the amount items in library 11:17 josef_moravec Archie^: The best way to insert records and items is through stage/import tools 11:17 josef_moravec from GUI 11:18 Archie^ yah i did that 11:18 josef_moravec Archie^: so what's wrong? The record does not contain items? 11:18 ashimema it should handle items for you 11:18 Archie^ but table_a contains only singular marc21xml records so KOHA sees them as singular aswell 11:19 josef_moravec Archie^: what is the source of these records? 11:19 Archie^ a different system that i'm trying to migrate into koha 11:19 josef_moravec maybe they have items in different marc field? 11:20 josef_moravec if so, you can handle it and import 11:21 Archie^ im thinking maybe koha has some 9xx field that correlates to "amount of items" ? 11:21 ashimema you need field per item 11:22 josef_moravec Archie^: somehow, koha has field 952, it is repetable and every field is one item 11:22 ashimema I'm sure we've pointed you to these a few times already 11:22 andreashm Archie^: does the old system have information about each item/copy (barcodes, or other id etc?) or just a value on copies that are connected to the marcxml? 11:22 * ashimema goes back to release maintanence.. thanks for advicing josef :) 11:22 marcelr ashimema: yet another PQA but not that comfortable.. 11:23 josef_moravec if the other system has items in another field, you can remap it in koha, or transofrm it in marcedit before importing into koha 11:23 marcelr 21608 holds 11:23 andreashm each physical copy (=item) needs it's own row, not just a value 11:26 ashimema I know the feeling on that one marcelr.. it's an area of code I'm not confident in at all regarding the foundations 11:26 ashimema it's ripe for a run on building a tonne more tests and then refactoring the heck out of. 11:27 * josef_moravec thinks C4::Reserves needs much attention :( 11:27 ashimema totally agree.. perhaps a target for next cycle 11:27 andreashm yes indeed 11:28 andreashm reserves and accountlines are the areas that would need the most improvement in my opinion. 11:28 ashimema I've already got 'Recalls' a the top of my list for next cycle (along with the accounts tree I've built) 11:28 andreashm lost of issues in regards to those two in the library here 11:28 ashimema I think reserves/recalls should be written as a single well through feature myself.. not two very distinct things 11:29 ashimema accountlines is moving forward fairly nicely now at least.. with Tomas, Yourself (josef) and I all attacking it I feel we're moving in the right direction 11:29 ashimema many hands and all that 11:32 andreashm anyplace one can get an overview of whats being done in regards to accounts/accountlines? 11:32 * andreashm feel that how it is displayed in the UI needs some serious UX work 11:33 ashimema right at this particular moment we're working through cleaning up backend code there andreashm.. but I'm all ears for UI/UX improvements.. sure we could onboard Owen ;) 11:33 josef_moravec andreashm: see bug 14825 11:33 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14825 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, NEW , Accounts Rewrite Omnibus 11:34 ashimema https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/showdependencygraph.cgi?id=14825 for the scary dependancy tree 11:34 andreashm josef_moravec: thanks! I think I've looked there, but found it hard to see how all the pieces fit together 11:34 ashimema there's a bunch of stuff hanging off 21002 which I intend to get moving straight after 18.11 release 11:35 Joubu andreashm: you should ask tcohen or khall 11:35 Joubu and hi #koha 11:35 * andreashm just think he might have burnt his eyes from looking at that graph! =) 11:36 ashimema allot of it is about pushing the functionality which currently spread all over koha's codebase into a couple of well formed modules and then using those everywhere.. stop us re-inventing the wheel so often and missing bits when doing so 11:36 ashimema then enhanceing on top of that 11:36 ashimema that's the plan anyways.. 11:36 andreashm Joubu: that's what I usually do! =) 11:36 andreashm sounds like a good plan. 11:36 andreashm I'll put in on my (way to long) todo list to rwview and see whre/if we can possibly help out. 11:37 andreashm Because it's just to much trouble in that area right now... 11:38 andreashm review 11:39 andreashm Reserves page is in sore need of UX too... 11:39 * andreashm should maybe push our UX:er to work with it 12:03 magnuse andreashm++ 12:04 andreashm magnuse: maybe wait 'til we actually do anything? ;-) 12:04 Joubu marcelr: Was your comment on bug 21576 actually for bug 21526? 12:04 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=21576 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Add a developer script to automatically fix missing filters 12:04 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=21526 blocker, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Passed QA , TT variables used to build a link should be uri filtered 12:06 * andreashm has bug 21608 and bug 21680 open on tabs next to each other, went of to read an e-mail, and was then very confused when returning to the browser. maybe it's a good thing it is Friday 12:06 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=21608 major, P5 - low, ---, nick, Passed QA , Arranging holds priority with dropdowns is faulty when there are waiting/intransit holds 12:06 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=21680 trivial, P5 - low, ---, josef.moravec, Pushed to Stable , Remove dead code C4::Accounts::fixaccounts 12:19 andreashm ashimema: it seems a lot from the graph you posted is on its way into 18.11 12:20 ashimema yup.. 12:20 ashimema but there is more to come :) 12:23 andreashm good good 12:23 coyas hi 12:23 wahanui what's up, coyas 12:23 coyas i'm back 12:23 andreashm seems like a lot of it is moving thing to Koha::Account 12:24 andreashm ashimema: any planned changes to the db? or ui? 12:24 andreashm my focus is of course from the end-user perspective. =) 12:25 coyas will be a nightmare if i change the CentOS to Debian, i will lose cpanel, WHM 12:25 coyas i don't know how i will configure the server 12:25 coyas kkkk 12:26 coyas i will try install koha in CentOS 12:26 ashimema most db changes are already there.. account_offsets was a big improvment 12:27 ashimema allot of the work we're doing is to ensure the existing tables are getting properly populated for all cases. 12:27 tcohen hi 12:27 ashimema the actions log may have some minor changes in it's content to make it more consistent 12:28 ashimema UI wise.. I've not reached that area at all yet.. but PTFS-E has some improvements they want to make based on top of this.. we have a 'Cash Management' enhancement which a couple of customers have been running for a couple of years now.. it adds tills and cashing up functionality along with change calculation 12:29 coyas this site has same tips https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_3.10_on_Centos_6.3_x86_64_en 12:29 ashimema we couldn't submit it before now because Accounts was such a mess and a fast moving mess at that. 12:30 ashimema indeed coyas.. if you're competant and confortable in CentOS you should be able to run it.. it's just not recommended and you'r unlikely to get much useufl help from here as we're all using Debian (or debian derivatives) these days 12:30 ashimema the packages built for debian are by in far the easiest way to install and maintain these days 12:31 coyas i am not confortable with centos, i never had used it before 12:32 coyas i like fedora or debian 12:37 coyas my company buy this server 12:37 andreashm hi tcohen! talking accountlines. =) 12:37 coyas i hated 12:37 coyas i hate 12:38 oleonard Hi #koha 12:38 tcohen what aboutn accountlines? 12:38 andreashm all the work being done there 12:38 andreashm and how we feel the ui needs improvement 12:39 andreashm tcohen: ^^ 12:40 andreashm (we=stockholm uni) 12:41 andreashm ashimema: sounds interesting the work you've done with "cash management". 12:42 ashimema our local council customers love it. 12:43 ashimema though getting the right till drawer to open has been 'challenging' to say the least 12:43 ashimema Point Of Sale inside a browser is just plain hard 12:43 andreashm =) 12:44 Guest2299 Project Koha_17.11_D8 build #114: STILL UNSTABLE in 35 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_17.11_D8/114/ 12:53 Joubu fridolin: hum, do not you run tests when you backport? 12:54 fridolin yep but its something random i thuink 12:54 Joubu Can't locate t/lib/Selenium.pm 12:54 Joubu does not sound random 12:54 fridolin ah yep 12:54 fridolin i dont have Selenium but it should be on jenkins 12:55 Joubu it's not a selenium lib, t::lib::Selenium is part of Koha 12:55 Joubu but 17.11.x 12:56 * ashimema tries to always run tests.. but is faliable ;) 12:57 fridolin ah ok in src lib/selenium 12:59 Joubu fridolin: it's bug 19802 12:59 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19802 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, RESOLVED FIXED, Move Selenium code to its own module 13:00 fridolin thanks 13:00 Joubu but not sure it will be backportable easily 13:31 Guest2299 Project Koha_18.05_D8 build #113: SUCCESS in 25 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_18.05_D8/113/ 13:35 Guest2299 Project Koha_18.05_U18 build #115: SUCCESS in 28 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_18.05_U18/115/ 13:46 caroline good morning everyone! 13:46 cait oleonard: hope my rebase was ok for the basket column patch 13:46 oleonard If it works it works! 13:49 Freddy_Enrique Greetings koha :) 13:50 caroline Hi Freddy_Enrique! 13:50 Freddy_Enrique Hi there Caroline 13:52 cait oleonard: i thikn i got a bit over-excited late lats night (blames too much tea :) ) 13:53 Guest2299 Project Koha_18.05_D9 build #114: SUCCESS in 43 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_18.05_D9/114/ 13:55 oleonard This authorised value category related to Housebound delivery, HSBND_FREQ, reads "Husband frequency" to me, and... you go girl! 13:56 Joubu !jenkins status 13:56 Guest2299 Joubu you may not issue bot commands in this chat! 13:56 AnnaBoten Error: "jenkins" is not a valid command. 13:57 cait lol 13:59 Joubu !jenkins status 13:59 Guest2299 Joubu you may not issue bot commands in this chat! 13:59 AnnaBoten Error: "jenkins" is not a valid command. 13:59 wahanui i already had it that way, AnnaBoten. 13:59 Joubu ho ho, slow down bots 14:05 Archie^ hey cait can you remind me what was the way to run bulkmarcimport.pl ? 14:06 cait -h? 14:07 Archie^ no i mean there was some sort of a bash instance root_password, or something 14:07 Joubu !jenkins status 14:07 AnnaBoten Error: "jenkins" is not a valid command. 14:07 wahanui i already had it that way, AnnaBoten. 14:07 Joubu koha-jenkins: status! 14:08 Joubu koha-jenkins: !jenkins status 14:09 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 21413: (QA follow-up) Fix tests <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=08fa7014c065e5a5bf3d2e9e6fd50c52f45a068a> 14:09 Joubu wt. 14:09 cait kshell 14:09 cait or koha-shell with the instance name 14:09 Archie^ oh sweet thanks 14:19 Joubu !jenkins abort Koha_Master_U18 14:19 AnnaBoten Error: "jenkins" is not a valid command. 14:19 wahanui i already had it that way, AnnaBoten. 14:19 Joubu !jenkins build Koha_Master_U18 14:19 AnnaBoten Error: "jenkins" is not a valid command. 14:19 wahanui i already had it that way, AnnaBoten. 14:19 Joubu you are all stupid bots 14:21 Joubu !jenkins help 14:21 AnnaBoten Error: "jenkins" is not a valid command. 14:21 wahanui i already had it that way, AnnaBoten. 14:22 Joubu help meeeeeeeee 14:22 ashimema Lol 14:22 oleonard This is just like the opening sequence of The Terminator! 14:28 Joubu Could someone op me? 14:31 oleonard magnuse? gmcharlt? ^^ 14:32 oleonard caroline: I'm looking at authorised_values_categories and I notice that some which are inserted by default in Koha are not documented: branches, CAND, cn_source, CONTROL_NUM_SEQUENCE, itemtypes 14:32 magnuse what should i do? 14:32 oleonard caroline: Do you know anything about them? 14:32 Joubu thx magnuse 14:33 oleonard Perhaps someone else knows why branches, CAND, cn_source, CONTROL_NUM_SEQUENCE, itemtypes are in auth_val_cat.sql but undocumented? 14:33 Joubu !jenkins status 14:33 AnnaBoten Error: "jenkins" is not a valid command. 14:33 wahanui i already had it that way, AnnaBoten. 14:33 caroline oleonard: are branches, cn_source and itemtypes really authorised values? 14:33 * magnuse have fun #koha! 14:33 caroline even CONTROL_NUM_SEQUENCE, I'm not sure I've ever seen that in auth values 14:34 oleonard caroline: They are authorised value categories 14:34 oleonard In the authorised_value_categories table 14:34 oleonard ...which I think may only be used when displaying authorised values in administration 14:35 caroline I think they are populated automatically and used for reports 14:35 Joubu !jenkins help 14:35 AnnaBoten Error: "jenkins" is not a valid command. 14:35 wahanui i already had it that way, AnnaBoten. 14:35 caroline I've never seen them in admin > auth values 14:35 caroline I'm checking my master now, but in my 18.05 they are not there 14:37 * caroline is going through the whole web installer thing again... ¬_¬ 14:39 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9 build #605: SUCCESS in 30 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9/605/ 14:40 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed! 14:40 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D8 build #101: FIXED in 26 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D8/101/ 14:40 oleonard caroline: Maybe they're not inserted by default after all? I assumed so because auth_val_cat.sql is in data/mysql/mandatory 14:40 Joubu they are 14:44 caroline going through web installer and I'm missing a Perl Module called "Sys::CPU". If I do sudo cpan Sys::CPU it says Warning: Cannot install Sys::CPU, don't know what it is. is this normal? 14:44 caroline Its not blocking me from continuing, but I just find it weird 14:46 oleonard I don't know if that indicates a problem with the installation process but you can run 'sudo apt-get install libsys-cpu-perl' to fix it 14:46 cait lost track, but are you still wondering about the auth values? 14:47 cait branches, itemtypes and cn_source are 'fake' ones - I think because the frameworks treat them as authorised values 14:47 cait the control number one is brand new 14:47 cait a feature for rancor to generate 001 values 14:47 caroline branches and cn_source are not there https://snag.gy/CiQoh3.jpg 14:47 cait yes, because you can't change them 14:47 cait but if you look at the framework configuration, you can pick them there 14:48 caroline that's what I thought... They are used in reports as well 14:48 cait and it will give alistof those things from the other tables 14:48 cait correct 14:48 cait but maintained not as an authorised value 14:48 caroline so were just missing CAND and CONTROL_NUM_SEQUENCE in the manual 14:49 cait caroline: bug 18418 14:49 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18418 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, nick, Failed QA , Advanced Editor - Rancor - Add a control number widget 14:49 cait for the latter 14:49 cait CAND i thinks is some UNIMARC thing 14:50 caroline unimarc... you can always count on it to confuse us ;) 14:50 cait nstaller/data/mysql/fr-CA/facultatif/auth_val.sql 14:50 cait it appears in the installer for unimarc 14:50 cait hm mor ethe canadian one not unimarc 14:50 cait and prelinekd in the unimarc frameworks: installer/data/mysql/fr-FR/marcflavour/unimarc_lecture_pub/Obligatoire/autorites_norme_unimarc.sql:INSERT INTO `auth_subfield_structure` (`authtypecode`, `tagfield`, `tagsubfield`, `liblibrarian`, `libopac`, `repeatable`, `mandatory`, `tab`, `authorised_value`, `value_builder`, `seealso`, `isurl`, `hidden`, `linkid`, `kohafield`, `frameworkcode`) VALUES ('SNC', '250', 'b', 'Statut', '', 0, 0, -1, 'C 14:50 cait AND 14:51 caroline why is it mandatory in english but optional in french? 14:51 cait i think because the installers drifted apart... maybe? not sure about that one 14:51 Joubu installer files are sometimes wrong 14:52 caroline cait: bug 18418 is FQA, is the auth value category added by another bug? 14:52 Archie^ hmm if i'm using bulkmarcimport -append -l is there some default drectory logs are stored ? 14:53 cait huh 14:53 cait could it be a leftover fom earlier testing? 14:54 cait caroline: hm, it hink thereis anotherbug that was pushed 14:54 cait i remember corilynn was working on it 14:54 cait bug 19263 14:54 wahanui bug 19263 is ready for inspection 14:55 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19263 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, carnold, RESOLVED FIXED, Advanced Editor - Rancor - Add auto control number (001) widget 14:55 cait dupicate 14:55 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_U18 build #94: SUCCESS in 45 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U18/94/ 14:56 oleonard Ah so branches, itemtypes and cn_source must be deliberately excluded from the authorised value editor 14:56 Joubu yep 14:57 Joubu they are in the table to have a foreign key constraint at DB level 14:58 caroline added CAND and CONTROL_NUM_SEQUENCE to the docs to-do :) 14:59 oleonard All of this because I think the authorized values list should look something like this: https://zivotdesign.com/p/#1/15417755027092 15:00 oleonard Because if you think about it, the current interface is a weird anomaly. 15:00 caroline cool! 15:00 caroline Will the button "New auth value for Asort1" be moved to the end of the row? 15:01 cait oleonard: that would not work for translations 15:01 cait not easily 15:01 cait i mean we could add the description to the db 15:01 caroline cait why? Isn't the description in the template? 15:01 cait but the file for example is not in the installers... it's global (nice) 15:01 oleonard cait: Currently the template contains *some* of those descriptions but not all. All we have to do is add the rest and keep them up to date. 15:02 cait you can add your own... so maybe a mixed approach 15:02 cait i didn't notice the interface contained any :) 15:02 cait having a descrption field for displaying info about the ones you added might be nice 15:02 cait and hte number of entried for each 15:02 oleonard http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=blob;f=koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/admin/authorised_values.tt;h=14b584f355bc3eccf89842d96c649cb0167e78fc;hb=HEAD#l184 15:02 cait nice! 15:03 oleonard Those descriptions do appear on the page when a particular category is selected but it's very unobtrusive. 15:04 oleonard caroline: Yes to your button idea 15:05 caroline I like it, it's much clearer 15:09 Joubu oleonard: did you write a patch for the screenshot you sent? 15:09 oleonard It's in progress 15:09 Joubu great :) 15:19 koha-jenkins Project Koha_18.05_D8 build #114: UNSTABLE in 28 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_18.05_D8/114/ 15:22 ashimema poop 15:22 ashimema oh.. 15:22 ashimema maybe not me 15:22 koha-jenkins Project Koha_18.05_U18 build #116: UNSTABLE in 30 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_18.05_U18/116/ 15:28 ashimema grr.. dopy typo 15:31 ashimema oleonard around? 15:31 oleonard Yes 15:31 ashimema hugs 15:31 ashimema favour? 15:31 ashimema https://gitlab.com/mrenvoize/Koha/commit/52028d9932ce1d10ad690261d8f6983b074b2909 15:31 ashimema fancy walking me through the sccs => css backport for that? 15:32 oleonard Oh sure, no problem 15:32 * oleonard checks 15:33 ashimema or I could be super lazy and just not clean up staff-global.css to be entirely honest ;) 15:33 ashimema as no classes actually refer to it after the rest of the patch is backported.. 15:33 ashimema it just sorta feels a bit naughty 15:33 Joubu ashimema: + user_id => $logged_in_user->id 15:33 Joubu sure about that? 15:34 ashimema pretty sure 15:34 ashimema nope.. not at all 15:34 Joubu you are expecting userid? 15:34 ashimema ->borrowernumber 15:34 oleonard ashimema: I think this is what you need: http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=blob;f=koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/css/staff-global.css;h=5c219a8806741249567b2b9d6d47eda3eff5fa7f;hb=0ad36566b8975dcbbd5d939a886358dfd180cb68#l995 15:34 ashimema curse our objects/dbic/tables not agreeing with each other. 15:35 Joubu ashimema: ok, so yes. That is confusing IMO 15:35 Joubu 'borrowernumber => $logged_in_user->borrowernumber' reads better 15:35 Joubu (yes I know, you are not adding the new param) 15:35 ashimema oh ffs.. I even tested it.. but entirely forgot to refresh memcached between the config switch 15:36 * ashimema thinks the weekend can't come soon enough 15:38 ashimema thanks for catching it Joubu 15:38 Joubu ashimema: it's ok if you need borrowernumber I'd say 15:40 Joubu accountlines.manager_id is not a FK (??) 15:40 ashimema nope.. seems not 15:41 Joubu tcohen: ^ ? 15:41 ashimema at least that's what tomas said in the bug 15:42 * ashimema needs to work on his pre-commit hook a little 15:42 koha-jenkins Project Koha_18.05_D9 build #115: UNSTABLE in 46 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_18.05_D9/115/ 15:42 ashimema is what you put on the wiki what you're running with at the moment out of interest Joubu 15:42 ashimema there's some annoyances I'd like to fix 15:43 ashimema like the experimental use of give and when 15:43 ashimema and the 'use' statement mis-identification on user_id lines 15:44 Joubu nope I am no longer running it 15:45 Joubu ashimema: when I was RM I used the pre-push hook, from https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Release_management 15:45 ashimema lol 15:46 ashimema yeah.. I use a slightly adapted pre-push hook 15:46 ashimema and a pre-commit hook too 15:47 Freddy_Enrique uhm... I can not put arroba here... damn alt+64 15:47 Joubu the pre-commit hook drove me crazy, because I want to `git commit -a -m"wip"` without any checks 15:47 Joubu and quickly 15:47 ashimema fair enough 15:47 ashimema make sense 15:47 ashimema I tend to 'stash' for that 15:47 Joubu maybe there is a --no-check flag for git commit 15:48 Joubu yeah but then you have 30 stashes and you do not remember which one was the good noe 15:48 ashimema true 15:48 Joubu and stash pop on the wrong branch will mess everything up :) 15:48 ashimema I also use git worktree 15:49 ashimema so i have in effect two clones at all times (only they don't take up the space of two clones of course) 15:49 ashimema so I have my longer running work on one branch and then lots of quick throw away branches on the other worktree 15:49 oleonard For me 'git stash list' is like opening a mysterious time capsule which was buried by another person 15:49 ashimema hehe 15:50 ashimema know that feeling 15:51 Joubu git stash list|wc -l # 339 15:51 Joubu oops 15:51 ashimema yowsers 15:51 eythian I regularly zap my stash stack 15:51 ashimema I have a max of 6 or so 15:52 eythian it used to get quite bad when I didn't know that git stash apply wasn't the same as git stash pop 15:52 oleonard It's like the books at the bottom of the pile you checked out at the library: You're not getting to those, just return them. 15:52 Joubu "I am sure there is something useful I left behind in one of them"... 15:53 pastebot Someone at 127.0.0.1 pasted "lol maybe not" (21 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/177 15:56 Joubu ashimema: I have no idea why jenkins is not shuting down 15:58 oleonard josef_moravec++ 16:01 ashimema odd 16:01 ashimema probably because I keep feeding him? 16:01 ashimema lol 16:03 caroline in accounts.inc, why is there W for Writeoff, but also WO for Writeoff? 16:05 ashimema history 16:05 ashimema if you want a Koha dev to cry.. ask them to look at account codes. 16:05 ashimema ;) 16:05 ashimema tcohen, josef and I are on a mission to clean that all up though at the moment ;) 16:06 tcohen indeed 16:06 caroline ok thanks... It's just weird when we're translating 16:06 caroline there's also C and CR for credit 16:06 Joubu !jenkins status 16:06 AnnaBoten Error: "jenkins" is not a valid command. 16:06 wahanui i already had it that way, AnnaBoten. 16:06 Joubu ok, I give up 16:06 ashimema even more wierd when your relying on those code to write code that actions upon them ;) 16:07 caroline Joubu: I think jenkins is hiding from you... 16:08 ashimema I think Jenkins has a full belly from all the code kidclamp, fridolin and I are feeding him at the minute 16:08 caroline is it because he changed his name to koha-jenkins that it's not working? 16:09 Joubu I changed the name, 'jenkins' is registered and so becomes Guestxxx 16:13 tcohen !koha-jenkins: help 16:13 AnnaBoten Error: "koha-jenkins:" is not a valid command. 16:13 tcohen koha-jenkins: help 16:13 Joubu the command is !jenkins 16:13 Joubu !jenkins status 16:13 AnnaBoten Error: "jenkins" is not a valid command. 16:13 wahanui i already had it that way, AnnaBoten. 16:14 tcohen !koha-jenkins 16:14 AnnaBoten Error: "koha-jenkins" is not a valid command. 16:14 Joubu should work 16:14 Joubu !jenkins help 16:14 AnnaBoten Error: "jenkins" is not a valid command. 16:14 wahanui i already had it that way, AnnaBoten. 16:14 Joubu the doc says you should be either op or voice 16:14 tcohen WARNING: org.acegisecurity.userdetails.UsernameNotFoundException: Password is not set: 16:15 reiveune bye 16:16 * ashimema can't remember the last time he say AnnaBoten (IRC) 16:17 Joubu !start 16:17 AnnaBoten The hunt starts now! 16:17 caroline uh oh! 16:19 * CrispyBran waves 16:19 Joubu have a great week-end #koha 16:20 CrispyBran you too Joubu 16:20 AnnaBoten \_o< quack! 16:21 caroline are we supposed to shoot the ducks? 16:21 tcohen !koha-jenkins: status 16:21 AnnaBoten Error: "koha-jenkins:" is not a valid command. 16:21 wahanui i already had it that way, AnnaBoten. 16:21 tcohen koha-jenkins: status 16:23 Freddy_Enrique Excuse guy, one question 16:24 Freddy_Enrique does the system automatically generate back ups? 16:24 Freddy_Enrique If so, where could I find it? 16:25 oleonard Freddy_Enrique: No, not automatically. 16:26 Freddy_Enrique I see.. what happens is that a partner of mine has one particular problem 16:26 Freddy_Enrique In the intranet he can see al his records, but on the opac nothing pops up 16:27 caroline at least the records are not lost 16:27 Freddy_Enrique it's like if it doesn't have records in the fisrt place 16:27 Freddy_Enrique he is sing 17.05 16:27 Freddy_Enrique using* 16:28 caroline If the records are in the intranet, they are there 16:28 caroline not lost 16:28 caroline did the opac ever work? 16:30 Freddy_Enrique yep, that problem began when they did a little migration 16:36 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed! 16:36 koha-jenkins Project Koha_18.05_D8 build #115: FIXED in 28 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_18.05_D8/115/ 16:41 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed! 16:41 koha-jenkins Project Koha_18.05_U18 build #118: FIXED in 31 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_18.05_U18/118/ 16:44 caroline Freddy_Enrique: is it just the new records (from the migration) that don't appear? 16:53 koha-jenkins Project Koha_17.11_D8 build #116: STILL UNSTABLE in 44 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_17.11_D8/116/ 16:55 * cbrannon[A] is now away - Reason : Meeting 17:03 Freddy_Enrique They have 5 library branches 17:03 Freddy_Enrique in the intranet, when searching in one of the appear 520 records 17:04 koha-jenkins Project Koha_18.05_D8 build #116: SUCCESS in 22 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_18.05_D8/116/ 17:04 Freddy_Enrique when searching the same branch on the opac though, just appear 5 records 17:07 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed! 17:07 koha-jenkins Project Koha_18.05_D9 build #117: FIXED in 28 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_18.05_D9/117/ 17:25 ashimema Fixed? I thought it was already happy 17:38 koha-jenkins Project Koha_18.05_U18 build #119: SUCCESS in 45 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_18.05_U18/119/ 18:03 tcohen +jenkins 18:07 * CrispyBran is no longer away : Gone for 1 hour 11 minutes 57 seconds 18:15 CrispyBran bug 21346 - Yay! 18:15 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=21346 major, P5 - low, ---, cbrannon, Signed Off , Clean up dialogs in returns.pl / Fix waiting holds at wrong location bug 18:24 ashimema jenkins++ 18:28 CrispyBran @Seen Joubu 18:28 huginn CrispyBran: Joubu was last seen in #koha 2 hours, 8 minutes, and 46 seconds ago: <Joubu> have a great week-end #koha 18:29 CrispyBran @karma 18:29 huginn CrispyBran: Highest karma: "Joubu" (717), "cait" (635), and "tcohen" (376). Lowest karma: "failed" (-38), "-" (-38), and "ie" (-38). You (CrispyBran) are ranked 71 out of 890. 18:53 Freddy_Enrique Guys.... my friend's koha went crazy 18:53 Freddy_Enrique now he cant'see anything even in the intranet 18:53 Freddy_Enrique uhm, any way to get back to what is used to be? 18:58 oleonard Freddy_Enrique: If the database isn't bad you could try doing a clean installation and importing the db into that. 18:59 * cbrannon[A] is now away - Reason : Auto-Away after 30 minutes 19:04 oleonard Bug 21805 19:05 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=21805 major, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Duplicate include file in search results template causes JS error 19:05 oleonard Trivial fix for a bug that really shouldn't be in the next release 19:07 Freddy_Enrique oleonard: Uhm, and is there a specific folder where I can get the back up? 19:08 Freddy_Enrique I saw something about automatic cron 19:08 oleonard You use mysqldump to back up the mysql database 19:08 Freddy_Enrique with bad... what do you mean ?:( 19:09 oleonard Freddy_Enrique: I mean if the problem is how Koha is running as opposed to what the data is in the database 19:09 oleonard It seems much more likely that the problem is in how Koha is running, but maybe I'm wrong. 19:10 oleonard The packages have tools for creating backups but I haven't used them: https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Commands_provided_by_the_Debian_packages#koha-dump 19:16 Freddy_Enrique I thought I could solve the problem with reboot, but nothing happens 19:16 Freddy_Enrique ok... I'll try with your tips :) 19:33 * CrispyBran is no longer away : Gone for 1 hour 4 minutes 52 seconds 19:58 oleonard Happy weekend everyone 20:37 * CrispyBran waves 22:36 caroline bye everyone!