Time  Nick          Message
00:42 * Francesca   waves
06:57 geffy_pen     hi there
07:12 * magnuse     waves
07:18 * cait        waves
07:21 josef_moravec hi cait
07:22 cait          hi josef_moravec :)
07:22 cait          just getting ready to head out, will be back in a bit
07:39 reiveune      hello
07:46 alex_a        bonjour
07:52 josef_moravec hi alex_a
08:10 matts         hi
08:10 wahanui       hello, matts
08:38 cait          morning #koha
08:39 geffy_pen     Hello again... I am trying to use the Advance Editor. I have noticed in the leader tag 000, that there is no option for RDA....
08:39 cait          which position is that?
08:39 geffy_pen     should I choose ISBD instead?
08:39 cait          that's different things
08:39 geffy_pen     Descriptive cataloging form
08:39 cait          which position are you looking at?
08:39 geffy_pen     in Tag 000
08:40 cait          no rda is correct: http://www.loc.gov/marc/bibliographic/bdleader.html
08:40 cait          i think rda is indicated in another field
08:41 geffy_pen     okies thanks a lot
08:41 geffy_pen     I am a newbie in advance editor
08:41 cait          it's a MARC thing
08:41 cait          not related to the editor
08:41 cait          I think rda goes into 040 $e
08:41 cait          http://www.loc.gov/marc/bibliographic/bd040.html
08:42 geffy_pen     Yup, in the basic template in cataloging its in 040 $e for RDA...
08:43 geffy_pen     I am still a little lost with Advance Editor...
08:43 geffy_pen     Thanks for the help!
08:43 cait          np
08:47 fridolin      hi there
08:59 cait          hi fridolin
09:02 tuxayo        hi #koha o/
10:49 cait          fridolin: why is bug 21353 in 17.11?
10:49 huginn        Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=21353 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, RESOLVED FIXED, Merge patrons option only available with manage_patron_lists
10:49 cait          merge patrons is 18.05
10:49 fridolin      oh
10:49 cait          oh reverted, release notes are wrong
10:49 fridolin      ah ok
10:50 cait          sorry, workingout if we want 17.11.11 :) - currently using 17.11.10
10:50 fridolin      release notes script should look at reverts then
10:50 ashimema      me is about to embark on getting his rmain queue down again.. expect incoming fridolin.. i'm 220 commits behind :(
10:50 * cait        sends cookies
10:50 fridolin      woooo
10:50 cait          fridolin: i think it's a known bug, shoudl probably file it
10:50 cait          for the release notes script
10:50 fridolin      ashimema: good luke ;) get coffee and cookies
10:50 ashimema      ta :)
10:51 cait          fridolin: are you in production with 17.11.11 somewhere?
10:51 * ashimema    has been working on release notes script of late.. though not thought about reverts as yet
10:51 ashimema      be nice to get that fixed
10:51 fridolin      cait: not yet no
10:51 fridolin      we use 17.11.09
10:51 cait          .10 seems solid
10:52 cait          but I made an error backporting something.... so now we have to fix that *hides*
11:35 ashimema      koha:;object pros about?
11:35 cait          too early for the argentinian crowd
11:44 ashimema      I bugged khall in slack :)
11:44 ashimema      found a pretty fundatment issue with them ;)
11:44 cait          that's cheating :)
11:45 cait          slack
11:45 ashimema      you can skip 'store' entirely and it is indeed being skipped in a few places
11:45 ashimema      this means that all the code level triggers people are adding to the store method can be skipped ;)
12:00 fridolin      ashimema: Bug 21617
12:00 huginn        Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=21617 major, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Pushed to Master , statistics.ccode is not long enough (see also dbrev 18.06.00.032)
12:00 fridolin      i have set to major since you can loose statistics datas
12:01 fridolin      can you backport soon ?
12:01 ashimema      yeah.. it's on my list
12:01 ashimema      I have 220 commits to work through today ;)
12:02 cait          why are you still talking... start working! ;)
12:03 * cait        immediately feels guilty and sends more cookies
12:13 fridolin      :D
12:16 ashimema      you still here fridolin?
12:17 ashimema      what's your thoughts on the whole sql_strict stuff and backports.. I'm thinking the cost required to backport outweighs the benefits in most cases I've come accross so far.
12:17 ashimema      bug 21596 is a good example
12:17 huginn        Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=21596 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Handle default values when storing Koha::Patron
12:18 ashimema      all the chages are at the Koha::Object level.. but ModMember and AddMember being ported to Koha::Patron isn't in our branches.. so basically it's write the patches again from scratch..
12:30 oleonard      Hi all
12:32 kidclamp      hi oleonard
12:32 wahanui       hi oleopard
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12:44 fridolin      ashimema: sorry i was on a break
12:44 fridolin      i did not look at sql_strict stuff yet
12:44 fridolin      for 17.11.x i will try to focus on bugs since its wille soon be the oldoldstable
12:45 fridolin      my time on RMaint is short
12:45 ashimema      indeed
12:45 ashimema      hehe
12:45 ashimema      sure thing
12:45 fridolin      is it dependent on strech  ?
12:47 ashimema      not especially..
12:48 ashimema      basically.. we disable  a bunch of strict sql modes up to now.. this patch enables them so that we get errors thrown for bad sql
12:48 ashimema      which.. makes allot of koha explode
12:48 ashimema      But.. we're only enabling it for dev and test environments for now.. so we can catch issues
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13:24 cait          tcohen: ping?
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13:36 tcohen        hola
13:37 tcohen        hola cait, fridolin
13:37 tcohen        what's up?
13:38 cait          hola
13:38 wahanui       hola, cait
13:56 caroline      bonjour #koha!
13:56 oleonard      Hi caroline
13:58 ashimema      yeay.. I've not broken my branch yet today
14:47 oleonard      Anyone here know how to query Koha for which patrons are subscribed to a particular notice? (item due, advanced notice, etc)
14:52 cait          hm yes
14:52 cait          if you can wait a second?
14:54 oleonard      Yes, I am not trying to diffuse a ticking time bomb which requires SQL to stop it.
14:54 huginn        News from kohagit: Bug 8630: Compiled CSS <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=2e003cd04b8626a054412212fe377077658668f2>
14:54 huginn        News from kohagit: Bug 8630: DBRev 18.06.00.051 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=c4ff0eac6039c15ef16ced9f7523b931c674ecac>
14:54 huginn        News from kohagit: Bug 8630: (RM follow-up) Remove loop.odd reference and fix filters <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=458e07928505570affd43bd4c8dbe8e1c170a409>
14:54 huginn        News from kohagit: Bug 21645: Fix focus when modal is shown <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=fef32fac36800b6033367827ff45905db1d261c7>
14:54 huginn        News from kohagit: Bug 21645: e.preventDefault on click <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=1dc17d8502baa50885871419c0152fedc1977710>
14:54 huginn        News from kohagit: Bug 21650: Remove the subroutine C4::Items::GetLastAcquisitions <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=f683c181acdd0e7c285f6930c2067b6f20ff00a4>
14:54 huginn        News from kohagit: Bug 21645: Clean up library groups template <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=f6808f5e554c8608e70865f15bf1cb6b39c1221c>
14:54 huginn        News from kohagit: Bug 20970: Add preventDefault to avoid trailing # to be added to the url <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=9c02784fe5d7c3e66334163fa8068406b8bee5c8>
14:54 huginn        News from kohagit: Bug 19490: (follow-up) Improve tooltip message and some tidying <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a8b6a5daa56d3b681d1157c29a10caedfda984ad>
14:54 huginn        News from kohagit: Bug 21568: Add more spans with classes around callnumbers in OPAC for additional... <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=433eb16fd30d2b4e1e5e65c6d120600054ad2c1e>
14:54 huginn        News from kohagit: Bug 8630: (follow-up) Template corrections <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=529ed6faa43b6c2543695ec594fe891139cca83f>
14:54 huginn        News from kohagit: Bug 8630: Adlibris covers (intranet CSS) <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=401b706392cb49d36ba9842d6f9397a5f0d1a686>
14:54 huginn        News from kohagit: Bug 21570: Update two-column templates with Bootstrap grid: Various <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=368a9b1d5316cc1a7bdb91c6b0a55ddd83b6fc4a>
14:54 huginn        News from kohagit: Bug 8630: (follow-up) Make Adlibris cover show on OPAC overdues tab <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=7f6671587c0b78c22c3696f4a468a48a97af840d>
14:54 huginn        News from kohagit: Bug 20970: Reformat basket information on acquisitions basket page <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=c9d3e5470709f1f44e0952d06832a45909046ef1>
14:54 huginn        News from kohagit: Bug 16280: purge_suggestions.pl: Cron job log should tell number of days used <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=44778ddcc9badc800860cbcf6489065646cb3f15>
14:55 huginn        News from kohagit: Bug 8630: Adlibris covers (OPAC templates) <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=6e82493b65092f426cd5d5bdbacedc8d79d13469>
14:55 huginn        News from kohagit: Bug 8630: Adlibris covers (intranet templates) <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=4ea7f20ca3c55ac7f0df00207aadb854260bdc13>
14:55 huginn        News from kohagit: Bug 8630: Adlibris covers (OPAC SCSS changes) <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=1ba78e0a21b5ccdeb0c9bfbe690929a8ffe4c9cd>
14:55 huginn        News from kohagit: Bug 8630: Adlibris covers (syspref files) <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=fd3a378f9a8f43f9ac2b4fae73d881f36cc5f9bf>
15:10 oleonard      kidclamp: Could you please add feature freeze, string freeze, etc. to the Koha shared calendar?
15:14 Bovinity      Morning
15:14 cait          oleonard: sorry, had to book a flight :) looking in my notes now
15:14 cait          you need all patrons that have a specific notice?
15:15 oleonard      That is my goal, yes
15:15 cait          i know i have reports to do updates, let me find them
15:16 cait          something along these lines maybe: http://paste.koha-community.org/151
15:16 cait          it's also looking for specific categories
15:17 cait          5 and 6 are from message_attributes table
15:18 cait          hm actually... that's finding who hasn't the notice.
15:19 cait          I think that turns it around: http://paste.koha-community.org/152
15:24 oleonard      That works great, thank you!
15:24 oleonard      cait++
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15:33 kidclamp      @later tell Joubu - the failing test requires discussion with tcohen - please let me know who wins :-)
15:33 huginn        kidclamp: The operation succeeded.
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15:52 * cait        waves at kidclamp
15:53 cait          oleonard: happy to help you out for a change :)
15:53 corilynn      kidclamp, confused by comment 128 on bug 14957 ... what is that?
15:53 huginn        Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14957 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, eivin, Failed QA , Write protecting MARC fields based on source of import
15:54 kidclamp      looks like accidental attachment
15:56 corilynn      mmk
15:57 cait          you can just mark it obsolete i think
15:57 cait          if you want to test
15:57 cait          ah, it's already been done
15:57 cait          i think you can ignore it then
15:57 corilynn      k
15:57 corilynn      it looked weird with the sign off bits
15:58 corilynn      for some reason this bug is my personal SO capture the flag contest
15:58 cait          i am really happy to see it get some attention
15:58 corilynn      if only 18823 could have some lovin'
15:58 cait          David just commented about it
15:58 cait          bug 18823
15:58 huginn        Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18823 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, carnold, Needs Signoff , Advanced editor - Rancor - add ability to edit records in import batches
16:00 Bovinity      What's the feeling on the addition of existing libraries (lightbox2 in my case) in patches if the function you're working on makes use of it? Or should such an addition suggestion be a bug submission in and of itself?
16:01 cait          Bovinity: i'd consult with oleonard for GUI things - chance might be we have something that does a similar thing already
16:01 Bovinity      That's likely!
16:02 oleonard      Bovinity: Are you still talking about media from 856?
16:03 oleonard      I think it would be good to work within what we have--see the local cover images tab--and make it so that adding lightbox2 in custom JS would be an easy integration
16:03 Bovinity      Yeah, our historian fellow wanted photos to be displayed a little nicer visually and with descriptions baked in and such.
16:06 Bovinity      Basically this (but for topics other than cats) http://opac.bovinitydivinity.com:8080/cgi-bin/koha/opac-detail.pl?biblionumber=12
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16:28 oleonard      Guest1933: Who are you and what have you done with jenkins?
16:28 ashimema      Joubu about?
16:30 ashimema      yeay.. my branch is still happy
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16:35 Bovinity      Jenkins called in sick.
16:46 kidclamp      back later
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16:50 Guest1933     Yippee, build fixed!
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18:10 * CrispyBran  waves
18:11 oleonard      Hi CrispyBran
18:11 CrispyBran    hello oleonard
18:11 CrispyBran    Did you get my message?
18:12 oleonard      I did but I'm not sure I understand what you're trying to find out
18:12 CrispyBran    Okay.
18:14 CrispyBran    Working on 21346.  Cleaning up dialogs and mapping out holds and transfers.  There are two sections that handle the diffbranch condition for some reason.
18:15 CrispyBran    Can't figure out what triggers them.  One of them talks about items being consigned.  Wonder if you know what that means.
18:15 CrispyBran    This is in returns.tt
18:17 oleonard      I don't think I have any special knowledge of that. If I were in your position I would be doing the same detective work: Looking at the template conditions and trying to trace it back through returns.pl to find how they're triggered.
18:19 CrispyBran    Okay.  It was a longshot that I would find someone that knows.  It looks like it might have been older transfer dialogs for holds, but I'm not sure.  I'll see what I can figure out.
18:20 cait          do you know about git blmae?
18:20 cait          blame
18:20 cait          it can help sometimes
18:20 cait          but you might still end pu in a bit of a dead end if it is from before the switch to Template Toolkit
18:21 CrispyBran    never heard of it.
18:25 CrispyBran    Cool tool!  So, it looks like Joubu or rangi might have the answers I need.
18:28 Bovinity      Yeah, I swear learning about git is the real final boss of development, not the coding itself. :D
18:32 CrispyBran    @seen Joubu
18:32 huginn        CrispyBran: Joubu was last seen in #koha 3 days, 5 hours, 5 minutes, and 5 seconds ago: <Joubu> Anybody around is connected with an IPv6 address?
18:32 CrispyBran    @seen rangi
18:32 huginn        CrispyBran: rangi was last seen in #koha 4 days, 21 hours, 30 minutes, and 17 seconds ago: <rangi> ill have to try to switch on more loggin
18:36 CrispyBran    @seen kidclamp
18:36 huginn        CrispyBran: kidclamp was last seen in #koha 1 hour, 49 minutes, and 17 seconds ago: <kidclamp> back later
18:40 * oleonard    fears the day someone says, "You're still using git?! I can't believe you're not using X yet..."
18:44 Bovinity      "CoffeeEmu" Because everyone knows the best tools have names that make you ask why.
19:47 * andreashm   waves
19:54 * cait        waves at andreashm
19:55 andreashm     hi cait
19:56 oleonard      Bye all
20:03 * kidclamp    waves
20:04 andreashm     hi kidclamp
20:05 kidclamp      hi andreashm
20:05 kidclamp      @wunder 05001
20:05 huginn        kidclamp: White River Junction, VT :: Overcast :: 43F/6C | Wind Chill: 41F/5C | Monday: Considerable cloudiness with occasional rain showers. High 43F. Winds light and variable. Chance of rain 60%. Monday Night: Considerable cloudiness with occasional rain showers. Low 41F. Winds light and variable. Chance of rain 60%.
20:05 andreashm     @wunder stockholm
20:05 huginn        andreashm: Stockholm, Sweden :: Mostly Cloudy :: 31F/0C | Monday: Fog developing overnight. Lows overnight in the low 30s. Monday Night: Cloudy this evening then becoming foggy and damp after midnight. Low 31F. Winds SW at 5 to 10 mph.
20:14 andreashm     hi caroline
20:29 cait          tcohen: do you remember if Lari is still doing dev? there is a lot going on at one of his bugs: bug 17140
20:29 huginn        Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17140 major, P5 - low, ---, larit, Failed QA , Incorrect rounding in total fines calculations, part 2
20:29 cait          @wunder Konstanz
20:29 huginn        cait: Konstanz, Germany :: Clear :: 46F/8C | Wind Chill: 46F/8C | Monday: Mostly clear. Lows overnight in the mid 40s. Monday Night: Generally clear. Low 44F. Winds light and variable.
20:29 cait          hi caroline :)
20:35 andreashm     Yay! I think I finally found the reason, and the solution, to our lost refund issue! Bug 20285
20:35 huginn        Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20285 minor, P5 - low, ---, kyle, RESOLVED FIXED, Lost item refund won't always pay down lost item fee first
20:38 cait          kidclamp++
20:43 * caroline    waves to andreashm and cait
21:05 * kidclamp    wanders off
21:36 Migel009      Please, how to copy the content from one field to another, example the 260 copy to 008
21:41 caroline      Migel009: I'm not sure it's possible in Koha. batch modification cannot affect control fields as far as I know. Maybe try an alternative tool like MarcEdit?
21:42 caroline      what I meant by "cannot affect control fields" is that control fields are fixed-length and the batch tool in Koha cannot modifiy a specify position
21:46 cait          caroline++
21:48 Migel009      260 c copy to 008 7-10 what to do.
21:48 Migel009      Thank you
21:50 caroline      Migel009: unfortunately, Koha can't do this automatically. You will have to copy it manually or use an external tool like MarcEdit.
21:56 Migel009      thank you
23:06 rangi         4760/60
23:06 rangi         wahanui: 4760/60
23:06 wahanui       79.3333333333333
23:36 caroline      good night #koha!