Time Nick Message 23:16 * CrispyBran waves 22:31 caroline Have a good weekend all! 22:30 huginn caroline: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command). 22:30 caroline @Todo 22:30 caroline cool! 22:30 huginn caroline: Information on the restrictions that govern access to or the limited distribution of the described materials. (Repeatable) [a,b,c,d,e,f,u,2,3,5,6,8] 22:30 caroline @MARC 506 22:29 huginn caroline: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready 22:29 caroline @factoids 22:27 huginn caroline: Admin, Alias, Bugzilla, Channel, Config, Dict, Dunno, Factoids, Filter, Games, Google, Herald, Internet, Karma, Lart, Later, MARC, Math, MeetBot, Misc, Network, News, Note, Owner, Plugin, Quote, ReleaseDay, Seen, Todo, URL, Unix, User, Utilities, and Weather 22:27 caroline @list 22:23 davidnind occasionally karma is reset back to zero - not sure why that happens though... 22:22 davidnind sounds ... unkind? 22:19 caroline sounds harsh 22:18 caroline I didn't know you could decrease karma... 22:18 huginn caroline: Karma for "caroline" has been increased 62 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 62. 22:18 caroline @karma caroline 22:02 davidnind I think that is wrong - it's about 1/2 that (about 8C) + raining! 21:58 huginn davidnind: Wellington, New Zealand :: Overcast :: 61F/16C | Saturday: Windy with rain showers early then partly cloudy for the afternoon. High 51F. Winds S at 25 to 35 mph. Chance of rain 50%. Winds could occasionally gust over 50 mph. Saturday Night: Clear skies. Low 43F. Winds NNE at 5 to 10 mph. 21:58 davidnind @wunder Wellington, New Zealand 21:55 huginn caroline: Montreal, Quebec :: Mostly Cloudy :: 50F/10C | Friday: Mainly cloudy. Lows overnight in the low 40s. Friday Night: Partly cloudy skies early will give way to cloudy skies late. Low 41F. Winds W at 5 to 10 mph. 21:55 caroline @wunder Montreal, Canada 21:20 huginn caroline: The operation succeeded. 21:20 caroline @later tell LeeJ I tried to fill out the docs manager and docs team member section on this page https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Project_roles#Documentation_manager can you review to make sure I didn't write nonsense? (I'm not sure what your specific tasks are, but I wrote what I observed you do :) ) 21:05 davidnind thx as well! 21:05 cait and success for your projects too! 21:04 cait thx! 21:03 davidnind Have fun writing the slides, and good luck with the presentation! 21:00 cait he used to send me back to them ... someone made him forget i guess :) 20:59 cait slides? 20:59 cait i have to write my presentation for next week :( 20:59 davidnind i s/be it! 20:59 cait heh 20:59 davidnind Now I've said it, I'll have to do i! 20:59 cait wow 20:58 davidnind Concentrating this weekend on trying to get a repository demoing automation of screenshots over the weekend... will see how I go! 20:58 davidnind bot s/be but! 20:57 davidnind Hope to get an initial content development guide together over the next few weeks for comment (which I hope will help), bot probably more use medium to long-term. 20:57 cait davidnind++ 20:57 davidnind caroline++ cait++ LeeJ++ rangi++ 20:54 davidnind Great! We have some great starting points now - the editing the manual page, regular IRC meetings, cait and rangi's presentation at KohaCon18. 20:53 cait caroline++ 20:51 davidnind caroline++ 20:51 caroline What do you think? https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Project_roles#Documentation_team_member 20:44 davidnind really like the idea of having the roles page 20:41 davidnind would group typos, spell checking, etc under maintenance tasks 20:40 caroline davidnind++ 20:39 davidnind Still thinking about how/whether to introduce the idea to the documentation team --> solves some challenges, but creates others; probably a demo set of Koha content + how to do using free and open source tools 20:35 davidnind DITA is an open structured authoring standard - write multiple self-contained topics (task, reference, concept), combine together to create information products... 20:35 caroline cool! 20:34 cait ah :) 20:34 davidnind Work related, but of interest to me as well for technical writing https://2018-adobe-dita-world.meetus.adobeevents.com/ 20:32 cait work or fun? :) 20:32 davidnind I've been lurking - watching a live webinar/conference + trying to write notes, so having difficulty doing two or three things at once! 20:30 davidnind Hi caroline + cait! 20:30 caroline I didn't know you were here :) 20:30 cait hi davidnind :) 20:30 caroline Hi davidnind! 20:30 davidnind Maybe current process until we have it working - there will still be some screenshots I think that will need manual creation. 20:29 caroline I'll put it anyway and remove it when we have the automated screenshots thig working 20:28 caroline ? 20:28 caroline Should I put that in here if we have the automation thing 20:28 cait maybe a link to the editing the manual page 20:28 cait update screenshots? 20:27 cait um. 20:27 cait fix typos and spelling 20:27 caroline I can't think of anything else... 20:27 caroline So far I have "Pick a new feature, enhancement or just a missing section in the manual, try it and write how to do it" 20:26 caroline trying to complete the docs team section on https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Project_roles 20:02 caroline I thought they were all very clever 20:02 caroline ah yes! I had forgotten the sphinx :) 20:01 cait I think 20:01 cait This sphinx is not talking in riddles 20:00 cait not in the manual? you can change that 20:00 caroline What were the titles of your presentation with rangi? I only remember "document all the things" 20:00 cait knitting, but keeping an eye on irc :) 20:00 cait yes here 20:00 caroline cait around? 19:56 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=21503 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, cbrannon, Needs Signoff , Update AuthorisedValues.pm to fall back to code if description doesn't exist 19:56 CrispyBran bug 21503 19:56 huginn CrispyBran: The operation succeeded. 19:56 CrispyBran @later tell tcohen I think I have 21503 worked out. Take a look when you can. 19:32 huginn CrispyBran_: mtompset was last seen in #koha 2 hours, 33 minutes, and 9 seconds ago: <mtompset> corilynn_, not if there are multiple authors. 19:32 CrispyBran_ @seen mtompset 19:31 huginn CrispyBran_: The operation succeeded. 19:31 CrispyBran_ @later tell Joubu Please take a look at bug 21503 and let me know if my test and fix look good. I appreciate your help! 19:31 huginn CrispyBran_: Joubu was last seen in #koha 43 minutes and 36 seconds ago: <Joubu> search longer for tcohen 19:31 CrispyBran_ @seen Joubu 19:30 huginn CrispyBran_: tcohen was last seen in #koha 23 minutes and 10 seconds ago: <tcohen> have a great weekend, #koha 19:30 CrispyBran_ @seen tcohen 19:12 cait have a great weekend tcohen and oleonard 19:08 oleonard Same! 19:07 tcohen have a great weekend, #koha 18:58 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 20260: Use CodeMirror for the SQL reports editor <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=56ab53702013f36c7f174e1a219b7b450098412a> 18:58 tcohen kidding, just pushed it 18:57 tcohen oleonard: regarding 20260, can you 18:56 cait one of hte libraries had reported it 18:55 cait oleonard: i only recognized it because i spent hours figuring out that error report :) 18:52 oleonard I don't know how you can choose tcohen, they're all hits 18:49 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20260 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Passed QA , Use CodeMirror for the SQL reports editor 18:49 tcohen bug 20260 18:49 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=21297 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, RESOLVED FIXED, "More lists" screen missing "Select an Existing list" fieldset when all lists are public 18:49 cait bug 21297 18:49 cait codemirror heh 18:49 tcohen I want to push any cool thing oleonard did 18:48 tcohen ? 18:48 cait it's when you have no private list or something like that 18:48 cait hm no .11 18:47 oleonard It sounded familiar 18:47 cait fixed in 17.11.10 18:47 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=21566 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Lists function not displaying lists when trying to add a book to a list 18:47 cait oleonard: i tihnk bug 21566 is a known bug, we ran into it, was about to comment 18:47 Joubu search longer for tcohen 18:47 oleonard Maybe search longer next time 18:47 wahanui oleonard: i haven't a clue 18:47 oleonard wahanui: Did you find tcohen? 18:46 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 21479: Fix remove from cart links at the OPAC (should remove only 1) <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=2cd49034c43a16c7497f05e94c18396532fceddc> 18:46 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 21479: Add regression tests <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=45fbd36e1f2e1aa622eec1ba588424cc50243fb3> 18:46 cait you git add and then it will include those changes too 18:46 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 21479: Remove the trace if the node does not exist <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=be4f22f5a0745ef64c6bf20b89bd9f4fcbe40403> 18:46 cait tcohen: no :) 18:45 Joubu search for tcohen 18:45 Joubu search for TODO 18:43 tcohen cait: but that's for the commit message/author only, right? 18:42 cait stop killing wahanui 18:42 cait tcohen: you can use --amend if commited 18:36 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 21536: t/Koha_ExternalContent_RecordedBooks.t skips more tests than scheduled <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=ef769ea33276313a47d5b343edc748f538927671> 18:36 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 21553: Remove JS error on the Rota view <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=3c210589f8e72bcd2241e348226e8d608061e1f3> 18:24 tcohen ? 18:24 tcohen search for FIXME 18:23 Joubu come back wahanui! 18:23 Joubu oops 18:23 Joubu search for fixme 18:23 Joubu search for FIXME bla 18:23 Joubu bla search for FIXME 18:23 Joubu bla search for FIXME bla 18:22 Joubu FIXME 18:22 Joubu for FIXME 18:16 Joubu the short answer is: it's bad and wrong, you should not push as it 18:16 Joubu tcohen: take a look at t::lib::Selenium->new 18:15 Joubu to not explode 18:15 tcohen Joubu: why do you eval? 18:14 tcohen if it is already commited, you commit it, then squash the commits 18:14 Joubu then* 18:14 Joubu git add, the commit --amend, yes 18:14 CrispyBran if I want to amend something to my last commit, do I make the change and use git commit --amend 18:13 Joubu lol 18:13 Joubu search for FIXME 18:12 Joubu FIXME! 18:12 Joubu outch :) 18:12 Joubu search for FIXME in the patch 18:12 Joubu let's try 18:12 wahanui i don't know, joubu 18:12 Joubu wahanui: was it me? 18:12 Joubu ;) 18:12 Joubu search for FIXME in the patch 18:11 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=21479 major, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Passed QA , Removing from cart removes 2 items 18:11 tcohen I want to push bug 21479 18:11 Joubu the opac basket count? 18:11 Joubu context? 18:11 tcohen can you guide me? 18:11 tcohen or how to control it 18:11 tcohen not sure if it was ok or not 18:11 tcohen the paste thing is awesome! 18:10 tcohen I haven't tried the selenium tests in a while 18:10 tcohen why that much output and the paste? 18:10 pastebot "tcohen" at 172.22.66.9 pasted "kohadev-koha@kohadevbox:/home/" (21 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/117 18:09 Joubu yes 18:08 tcohen Joubu: around? 17:55 cait oooh that looks good on google 17:48 * caroline sends cait timbits 17:36 * cait sends caroline cookies 17:35 caroline must go back on VPN to extract data for migration, laterz! 17:35 caroline hey all! Sorry, I was on stupid VPN that doesn't allow me to be on my own network, then I went to lunch 17:30 corilynn_ this is all going to have to wait til next week, cause I just ran out of time... have a good weekend ya'll 17:28 corilynn_ ok, so i figured out, even the first patch has a conflict 17:16 corilynn_ so that it will apply cleanly and I can do some sandbox testing 17:15 corilynn_ anyway, I'll keep patch 79240 and try and roll the rest 17:15 cait :) 17:15 corilynn_ I did a bunch of testing and said, "wow, it's so close to working, it just needs someone to champion it" 17:14 cait all good 17:14 cait yep, was just wondering :) 17:14 corilynn_ I did, promise! 17:14 cait ok, usually you ask the original author if possible 17:14 cait that explains 17:14 cait aah I see :) 17:14 corilynn_ DGI 17:13 corilynn_ I work for the company that hired bywater to make the Rancor changes 17:13 corilynn_ Yes, I asked Nick before he left 17:13 corilynn_ just one other 17:13 cait are you taking them over officially? 17:13 cait i noticed you working on a lot of the rancor patches 17:12 corilynn_ wait, maybe I don't get it 17:12 cait but we do it rarely 17:12 cait same author/sign offer can be squashed 17:12 corilynn_ cait, deal 17:12 cait you can rebase, just not add new code 17:09 corilynn_ what if I keep the first patch (which is big and stomps all over a bunch of files), and roll up the rest? 17:08 corilynn_ I'll do my best... many have told me that git is delorian equiped, so I can't mess it up THAT bad 17:08 corilynn_ they were already conflicted 17:07 corilynn_ cait, the only problem with follow up patches is the original patches don't "apply" they fail when pushed to sandboxes 17:03 cait well there is irc.koha-community.org for logs 17:03 cait logs? 17:03 cait hm 17:03 wahanui i guess irc is not the most active at the time of the week ;) (I don't know where you are, but where caroline_ is it's friday afternoon so a lot of ppl are gone for the weekend) 17:03 cait or irc? 17:03 cait what you had missed 17:03 cait (18:53:41) cait: changes should be added in follow-up patches etc 17:03 cait (18:53:31) cait: please also be careful about keeping authorship 17:03 cait (18:53:25) cait: if you are working on old bugs 17:01 corilynn_ mtompset, maybe I can at least get it down to a couple 17:00 corilynn_ mtompset, it's really just two, the third was already obliterated by Nick a long while ago 16:59 mtompset corilynn_, not if there are multiple authors. 16:56 corilynn_ cait, are you saying I shouldn't roll it all up into one patch? 16:55 corilynn_ anyway, i missed everything after "mtompset> Just to make sure nothing is lost." 16:54 corilynn_ I'm two people 16:54 cait no idea, you didn't leave in my client.. just reappeared 16:54 cait we don't squash when it#s different authors for example 16:54 corilynn_ what just happened? 16:53 cait changes should be added in follow-up patches etc 16:53 cait please also be careful about keeping authorship 16:53 cait if you are working on old bugs 16:52 mtompset Just to make sure nothing is lost. 16:52 mtompset I always do a old patches to new patches compare after I push up a rebased version. 16:52 corilynn okay then, game on 16:51 mtompset muddling through is the only way to ensure you don't lose changes. 16:51 corilynn I have a branch that works 16:51 corilynn mtompset / tuxayo ... should I just grab all these changes and make one big pretty patch and obs all the rest? 16:50 mtompset oh yuck... it's an ugly bug. 16:49 corilynn I'm stuck muddling through... I mean... not that that's new to me... 16:48 corilynn so, no good guides? 16:48 tuxayo corilynn: ouch, good luck :( 16:48 mtompset corilynn, the best kind... :( 16:47 corilynn I don't know how to make it all happy 16:46 corilynn three different developers 16:46 corilynn the patches themselves conflict 16:46 cait what kind of conflicts? 16:46 corilynn yes 16:45 cait is your branch built on top of the latest master? 16:45 corilynn cait, there's already a depends/blocks 16:45 cait if you work a lot in the same area sometimes it works best to build things on top of each other and mark them as depends/blocks in bugzilla 16:45 corilynn my branch works, but when I create a new branch to test it out, or push to a sandbox there are conflicts 16:44 cait corilynn: which conflicts specifically? 16:44 cait oleonard++ 16:43 cait signed off, back in the queue :) 16:40 oleonard FYI: https://jqueryvalidation.org 16:39 cait interesting, thx! 16:39 oleonard I wanted it to use custom rules, so I switched the class for an id 16:38 oleonard Adding the validated class allows the form to trigger the validation plugin by adding classes like "required." 16:37 cait so standard is deactivated by removing the validated class? 16:36 corilynn anyone know how to get these conflicts to stop happening with patches? something I can read? 16:33 cait oleonard++ testing now :) 16:31 oleonard patch sent 16:31 oleonard Of course! 16:29 cait and thx for your help, really appreciated 16:27 oleonard Sure 16:26 cait want to put it as a follow-up and i sign it? 16:26 cait oleonard++ 16:26 cait wow 16:26 oleonard Okay I have a patch ready for that cait 16:25 cait i feel like we should go with [0-9a-zA-Z]+] 16:24 cait so us using uppercase is against standard (but it works and is used) and we don't really care about doing the graphics thing do we? 16:23 cait source :) 16:23 cait http://www.loc.gov/marc/specifications/specrecstruc.html 16:23 cait tag. A three character string used to identify or label an associated variable field. The tag may consist of ASCII numeric characters (decimal integers 0-9) and/or ASCII alphabetic characters (uppercase or lowercase, but not both). 16:23 cait i think they say \; would be valid 16:22 cait but was my first thought too heh 16:22 cait ascii 16:22 cait ... 16:22 oleonard Graphic symbol? 🅠? 16:21 cait data element identifier. A one-character code used to identify individual data elements within a variable field. The data element may be any ASCII lowercase alphabetic, numeric, or graphic symbol except blank 16:19 mtompset I suppose IE9 support loss isn't a huge thing, given this. 16:19 mtompset It would seem that main support for windows 7, 8, 8.1 were all prior to February this year. 16:19 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18823 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, carnold, ASSIGNED , Advanced editor - Rancor - add ability to edit records in import batches 16:19 corilynn gah... I need help with the patchy spaghetti that is bug 18823 16:18 cait but i thik we have one infamous one in standard frameworks with an e 16:18 cait let me check docs 16:17 oleonard And a MARC tag like '9tX' would be okay? 16:17 cait but the long pull downs also seemed not very ergonomic 16:17 cait our main problem was the upper case letters missing for the subfields 16:17 cait i think theoretically marc allows a bit more, but we know it creates problems 16:16 cait the latter 16:16 cait that was what i had tried to implement 16:16 oleonard or [0-9a-zA-Z]+] 16:16 cait i haven't looked up \w yet 16:15 oleonard cait: Limiting field and subfield entries to \d | \w sounds right to you? 16:15 cait i am bit lost what i better but leaving behind IE sounds good :) 16:14 oleonard I imagine they're used to it :P 16:14 oleonard IE9 would be the only folks left behind. 16:13 oleonard https://caniuse.com/#feat=form-validation 16:13 mtompset -- and possible backward compatibility, right, oleonard? 16:13 oleonard The advantage to using the jQuery validation plugin is the consistent interface clues 16:12 mtompset https://youtu.be/1vhFnTjia_I?t=64 16:12 oleonard (built-in = browser's) 16:12 mtompset ^ caroline 16:12 mtompset Your name constantly triggered a musical flashback. There was a girl I knew growing up, and all the guys in our church group would bug her by singing the chorus of a Neil Diamond classic. 16:11 oleonard We could either remove the JS validation in favor of the built-in, or I could add some custom JS validation 16:11 cait what is our current validation plugin? 16:11 cait some other docs i could look at? 16:11 cait oleonard: i am kind of relieved :) 16:11 mtompset Greetings, caroline 16:11 oleonard cait: It is the case that the validation plugin is overriding the browser's validation. That's why your HTML5 pattern didn't work. 16:09 cait hi caroline :) 16:09 cait back back :) 15:58 cait back, almost 15:32 ashimema know that feeling 15:32 mtompset I took a break, because other projects needed attention. 15:32 mtompset ashimema, I had over 100 after 4 months. 15:28 cait ok, hurrying up and going home - bbiab 15:27 cait i checked a lot of different websites for how to do it and it really upset me i couldn't make it work :) 15:27 cait tht could explain 15:27 oleonard Yup. I think the browser's built-in validation is superseded by the validation plugin 15:27 cait will you still be around? 15:27 cait i am about to leave but be back in half an hour with the right devbox 15:26 oleonard Okay :) 15:26 cait like... dozens? 15:26 cait it#s been a while :( 15:23 oleonard cait: What regex were you testing? 15:21 ashimema hehe 15:17 oleonard And those are the MOST fun two characters. 15:17 ashimema only digits and letters.. so we're trying to exclude 'fun' characters like ~ and the euro sign 15:16 ashimema yup 15:15 tuxayo cait: hi, does the browser inspector shows any callbacks on the <input> ? 15:15 oleonard What do we need? only digits or only letters? 15:13 cait pattern check 15:11 cait maybe we have something existing i don't think about? 15:11 cait i tried to add a html5 regex thing... but I couldn't get it to work :( 15:10 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20689 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Signed Off , Make it possible to add capital letter subfields to item search fields 15:10 cait oleonard: could you help me with a follow-up for bug 20689? 15:00 reiveune bye 15:00 ashimema I'll work through a few others first and come back to it if you've not got there yet :) 14:59 ashimema okies.. 14:59 Joubu I will try and get back to it, sure. The question is when.. 14:57 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15219 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Signed Off , Server-side processing and pagination on checkouts tables 14:57 ashimema Joubu.. you still planning on QAing bug 15219 ? 14:54 ashimema hehe 14:53 caroline How are MANUAL_INV accounttypes stored in accountlines? Does it just take the first 6 letters? 14:52 Joubu cait: I guess it was the new stock rotation perms, yes 14:51 cait i can't stand the sad smiley 14:51 * cait sends cookies 14:51 cait ohno... 14:51 ashimema :'( 14:51 cait or maybe it was Joubus new perm... 14:50 cait ;) 14:50 * cait glares a little at ashimema 14:50 cait i will try to rebase over the weekend... 14:50 cait Joubu: stock rotation on admin permissions i guess? 14:49 cait the checkboxes are disarranged - but it was before/after your patches on this one, i forgot to note it 14:49 cait oleonard: i saw something odd on the form for adding items to label batches 14:49 tcohen Joubu: stock rotation was a big one, that's correct 14:49 cait oleonard: of course :) 14:48 cait mtompset: i am not even trying hard :P 14:48 ashimema I think tcohen was talking about pushing a few for kidclamp to keep the queue management in his absence 14:46 Joubu looks like a Last Big In First Out 14:45 * Joubu wonders how the PQA queue is processed :D 14:45 Joubu ok thanks 14:44 caroline Joubu: he said he was only coming back next week 14:43 Joubu kidclamp: push session planned? 14:42 ashimema I was happy to be in the top 10 14:41 ashimema blimey.. you just got me checking out the dashboard stats.. 119 signoffs this year to date.. you're a machine! 14:41 ashimema hehe :) 14:41 * mtompset hands ashimema a monster ultra sunrise, "Lovely orangey taste." 14:40 * ashimema is getting sleepy.. it's not even late afternoon yet! 14:40 mtompset cait is too close. :) 14:39 mtompset Must get back into the sign off groove... 14:37 CrispyBran holle 14:37 mtompset Daylight comes and I want sleep now. ;) 14:36 CrispyBran heleo 14:36 mtompset no no ehlo. :) 14:36 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=21434 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Signed Off , Switch two-column templates to Bootstrap grid: Tools part 2 14:36 oleonard cait: I added a followup to Bug 21434 but left it 'signed off.' I hope that's okay. 14:36 mtompset elho? 14:35 mtompset marcelr++ # thank you, thank you. 14:35 CrispyBran hellop is so much better than hello, don't you think? :/ 14:35 mtompset Greetings, #koha. 14:34 CrispyBran hellop tcohen 14:34 wahanui salut, tcohen 14:34 tcohen hi 14:31 * CrispyBran waves 14:29 AndrewIsh josef_moravec++ 14:28 josef_moravec AndrewIsh: I am looking into it ;) 14:19 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20581 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, andrew.isherwood, Signed Off , Allow manual selection of custom ILL request statuses 14:19 AndrewIsh josef_moravec: I *think* I've addressed everything on bug 20581 now, thanks again for that! 14:19 josef_moravec corilynn: great! 14:18 corilynn josef_maravec ... it's my first real bug 14:17 corilynn :) 14:17 josef_moravec corilynn++ 14:17 josef_moravec corilynn: thanks for quick follow-up 14:10 josef_moravec AndrewIsh: ;) 14:08 AndrewIsh josef_moravec: Duh, so I did, I'll fix! I'm glad one of us is paying attention ;-) 14:08 josef_moravec AndrewIsh: yes, you added it here https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/attachment.cgi?id=80279&action=diff ;) 14:07 * ashimema gets to his first QA of the day at last :) 14:07 josef_moravec AndrewIsh: :D 14:06 AndrewIsh josef_moravec: Oh, sorry .txt! There's a .txt?! Oh man... 14:06 AndrewIsh josef_moravec: I did, I *think* the orange line in that diff represents that 14:06 cait oleonard: look up waha and nui separately - he is a big mouth :) 14:05 josef_moravec AndrewIsh: you should remove optional/ill_auth_cat.txt too 14:05 wahanui i am probably back??!!! 14:05 oleonard wahanui what are you? 14:04 corilynn wahanui is a one trick pony 14:04 josef_moravec ashimema: glad to hear ;) 14:03 wahanui darn tootin' it is. 14:03 AndrewIsh josef_moravec: Excellent 14:03 ashimema and there's plenty more in the pipe too :) 14:03 josef_moravec AndrewIsh: yes, that is exactly what i was thinking about (your patch ;)) 14:03 AndrewIsh josef_moravec: :-D 14:02 josef_moravec AndrewIsh: not at all, thanks for your followups ;) Your enhancements to ILL module are pretty useful! 14:02 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19263 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, carnold, ASSIGNED , Advanced Editor - Rancor - Add auto control number (001) widget 14:02 corilynn josef_moravec I added a new comment on bug 19263 (what AndrewIsh says ++ useful and great) 14:01 AndrewIsh josef_moravec: Still working through your feedback, super useful, thanks very much :) 14:00 josef_moravec sorry guys I am late with my responses 14:00 AndrewIsh josef_moravec: Yes, sorry mixed terminology on my part. I think this addresses it: https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/attachment.cgi?id=80474&action=diff 14:00 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=21401 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, josef.moravec, ASSIGNED , Account offsets should save the transacting library 14:00 josef_moravec tcohen: Yes, I would like to add the API changes to bug 21401 13:59 josef_moravec AndrewIsh: yes finish, no I didn't ment to remove ILLSTATUS category form atomic, I ment to remove the new installer file optional/ill_status.sql and add it only the category itself to a mandatory file auth_values_cat.sql 13:49 ashimema yeay :) 13:45 * oleonard added his name 13:45 ashimema I was putting off working on an ill backend ;) 13:45 ashimema perhaps.. 13:45 ashimema lol 13:41 cait ashimema: procrastinating something? ;) 13:40 caroline oleonard++ 13:40 cait oleonard: i hope you will too :) 13:34 ashimema I was in a 'sales pitch' wordy mood this morning when I wrote it.. it started out as 'votes are open, come put your names down'.. but grew a bit 13:33 ashimema I expect you to put your name down as a topic expert for ui design now though oleonard.. haha ;) 13:33 caroline I thought it was great 13:32 ashimema felt a little bit 'salesy' to me.. but I got cait to vet it to make sure it wasn't toooo over the top ;) 13:32 oleonard It was a very nice email ashimema 13:32 ashimema that;'s what drove it.. 13:32 caroline So I'll try to do it earlier than later 13:32 ashimema ;) 13:31 caroline With the nice email you sent, it might be good to have more details where we could point volunteers to 13:30 ashimema :) 13:30 ashimema no rush 13:30 caroline will look at it this afternoon 13:30 caroline Hi ashimema! :) I got your message about the wiki page 13:29 ashimema hi coroline 13:29 Archie^ hi Joubu ;) 13:29 Archie^ blou: not sure, we are not getting them in any way, shape of form YET. I will have access next week so we are in the plans of "how to migrate this to koha etc etc" 13:29 corilynn hi Joubu! 13:28 Joubu hola tcohen, #koha! 13:28 blou Archie: what format will you get those records into? We're getting some JSON, which we read using perl's decode_json into a hash, then create a MARC record using perl's MARC::Record library, filling the fields we can find. It's very custom. 13:25 tcohen hola Joubu! 13:24 caroline (blou = cursing colleague mentioned above) :P 13:24 huginn Joubu: The operation succeeded. 13:24 Joubu @later tell marcelr how did you get those warnings? 13:24 blou imo, the stuff is perfectly sharable. Except it's not a cute standalone code, couldn't really extract it. 13:23 Archie^ wait... if i'm installing koha via packages where is the default directory it installes itself into? 13:21 Archie^ but thanks anyway 13:21 Archie^ then i won't get my hopes up 13:20 caroline I'll ask if I can share the .pl file with you so you can look at what it does. I'm not sure because it's a paid development by our clients 13:18 Archie^ ;D 13:18 Archie^ i'm looking into openlibrary 13:18 caroline (I know mainly because my colleague was cursing about addbiblio this week, hehe) 13:18 Archie^ i'm actually looking into ebook platform right now 13:17 caroline Archie^: I don't know the details, but we've developed somthing for the local ebbok platform (like overdrive but in Quebec) and I know the code uses "AddBiblio" 13:15 Archie^ but here is the thing tho. i get that i can add patron via insert into db. Can same be done with books? 13:14 Archie^ yeah i was thinking the same 13:11 corilynn I wonder if the api would help? 13:11 Archie^ to only upload the changes in national library 13:10 Archie^ sure i can import large excel file or whatever, but i wanna automate this procedure to do a daily dump 13:09 corilynn *(I've got cataloging interface on the brain) 13:09 Archie^ bulk 13:09 corilynn wait, or do you mean bulk? 13:09 corilynn Archie^ you can import bibliographic records with the cataloging interface 13:08 Archie^ ofc after some sort of data manipulation so it fits koha db 13:07 Archie^ a question: let's say i have access to national library db that store the latest records with all national books. i can do a daily export of any changes in said datbase. but as far as i understand i can only import into koha via manage stored MARC records? Or can i do a just a plain insert into koha DB ? 13:07 corilynn qq josef_moravec? (but first a thank you!) 13:07 ashimema mornin' 13:06 AndrewIsh Good morning tcohen 13:06 tcohen hola AndrewIsh and ashimema 13:04 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=21401 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, josef.moravec, ASSIGNED , Account offsets should save the transacting library 13:04 tcohen josef_moravec: are you going to submit to bug 21401 the API change? 13:04 caroline good morning! 13:03 tcohen now kidclamp is away, lets push all the things LOL 13:03 cait morning tcohen 13:03 tcohen morning 12:44 AndrewIsh ashimema: Yes, I already have it in kohastructure.sql, but josef is suggesting putting the upgrade modifcation in auth_val_cat.sql instead of my own file which, now I read it again, makes sense! :) 12:42 ashimema one for at install time, the other for at upgrade time 12:41 ashimema you'll need both I would think AndrewIsh 12:41 huginn Bug 20581: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, andrew.isherwood, Failed QA , Allow manual selection of custom ILL request statuses 12:41 AndrewIsh josef_moravec: You suggestion here https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20581#c56 to use auth_val_cat.sql instead of an atomic update - will that get deployed during an upgrade? (Sorry for the n00b question!) 12:38 * ashimema cheers AndrewIsh on to get those QA followups done and offers josef_moravec a beer 12:37 ashimema blimey.. 12:30 AndrewIsh josef_moravec++ thanks for the QA (assuming you're now finished) :-) 12:30 cait couldn't test in master right n ow 12:29 cait oleonard: so far i confirmed it only in 16.11 and 17.11 but couldn't find a bug or patch that matches 12:29 oleonard Sorry cait your comment just came through 12:29 fridolin if someone uses reports ODS export, it may explode the server performance 12:28 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=21560 major, P5 - low, ---, fridolin.somers, Needs Signoff , report ODS export optimization 12:28 fridolin Bug 21560 12:26 oleonard cait: Are there any particular circumstances which trigger the date sorting problem? 12:25 * ashimema has a hankering to make some pretty graphs on the Dashboard :S 12:24 ashimema indeed 12:21 cait it was worse... but it could be much better 12:21 ashimema the NSO queue is a tad high though :( 12:20 * ashimema is going to start slipping back down the board at this rate.. lovely to see people climbing up it.. go QA 12:17 oleonard rangi++ 12:17 cait we just got a report htat we don't sort checkout date correctly in list of checkouts 12:17 oleonard calire++ 12:17 cait oleonard: and finding bugs :( 12:17 oleonard cait++ 12:17 oleonard So much qa! 11:58 huginn ashimema: The operation succeeded. 11:58 ashimema @later tell caroline I got asked to clarify the community release team roles a bit on the wiki.. I've run out of steam at the documentation team.. did you guys fancy adding a bit of a summary on what you do to https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Project_roles 11:45 wahanui hi oleopard 11:45 calire hi oleonard 11:40 oleonard Hey 11:38 ashimema :) 11:38 cait ashimema++ thank you 11:12 AndrewIsh josef_moravec: I thought I'd got through lightly, I'll await your final verdict ;-) 11:11 josef_moravec AndrewIsh: i haven't finished yet ;) 11:11 AndrewIsh josef_moravec++ thanks for the QA 11:07 Archie^ right, so has anyone here tried to load their own OpenLibrary? 10:10 marcelr it was a big one.. 10:05 cait marcelr++ thx for qa 10:02 wahanui letsencrypt is a link to certbot 10:02 marcelr letsencrypt 10:02 marcelr :) 10:02 marcelr as you know 10:02 marcelr you should use https 10:01 cait i can't test with https, that's what kept me away so far 09:55 marcelr got no more feedback from the qa gurus 09:55 ashimema sure thing 09:54 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=21299 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Signed Off , Move referer code from changelanguage to module in opac and staff 09:54 marcelr ashimema: care to have a look on bug 21299 ? 09:53 huginn marcelr: The operation succeeded. 09:53 marcelr @later tell Joubu lots of qa tools warns like File not found : js/global.js at .../Plugin/Asset.pm 09:53 marcelr later tell @Joubu lots of qa tools warns like File not found : js/global.js at .../Plugin/Asset.pm 09:51 cait ere++ :) 09:51 ashimema ere++ 09:51 ashimema does that make sense 09:51 marcelr ere++ 09:51 ashimema for instance.. I'm not entirely confident about QAing ES patches yet.. but if I had someone to reach out to to bash idea's against then I'd be more happy about diving in. 09:51 ere I don't really care what the title is, but I'm willing to contribute in stuff I know. 09:50 cait what will clash 09:50 cait of dependencies etc 09:50 cait i think for elastic we need someone to keep an overview 09:50 ashimema that's perfect for topic expert I reckon ere 09:50 marcelr im all for topic experts 09:50 ashimema but in reality.. it didn't really help much.. just generally QAing was of far more benefit 09:50 marcelr and you could be contacted by qa 09:49 * ashimema was a module maintainer for a while.. i treated it as a topic expert and just tried to make sure I jumped on bugs in my expert area quickly if I saw them.. making sure I SO'd or QA'd them quickly or contributed in any other way I could 09:49 marcelr you would be a topic expert 09:49 ere marcelr: I suppose kidclamp may have an idea since he asked me.. I don't consider myself a really good qa person, rather a developer with some some areas where I've gathered quite a bit of knowledge. 09:48 ashimema I'd like to know what you'd like to contribute ere.. once we know that we can work no a name for the role and make sure we can utilise those skills and that keeness to get on board and help :) 09:48 marcelr join qa, become release maintainer, bug wrangler, .. 09:48 ashimema hehe 09:47 marcelr ^^ 09:47 marcelr ere: no 09:47 marcelr having good ideas tends to make todo lists even longer 09:47 ere ashimema: Well, yeah, I thought I might actually do something useful as a module maintainer.. 09:46 ashimema good idea 09:46 ashimema hehe 09:46 marcelr certainly no experts in qa team :) 09:45 marcelr there is qa and there is topic expert 09:45 marcelr maybe we should name them topic experts and strip the qa word btw 09:45 marcelr yeah having module maintainer and qa topic experts is overkill 09:42 ashimema I sort of think they'd be bette servered as a QA Topic Expert.. try to coax some more people into QA but letting them officially limit themselves to an area they feel confident in.. 09:41 ashimema or has kidclamp got you onboard and have a plan for you ere perhaps ;)? 09:41 marcelr just my thought 09:41 marcelr we should not mention them anymore 09:41 ashimema indeed 09:41 marcelr module maintainer are never really used 09:41 * ashimema wonders if qa specialist might suit better or not 09:40 ashimema what do you want to make of your module maintainer role ere? do you have a proposal of what you'd like to do? 09:32 huginn marcelr: The operation succeeded. 09:32 marcelr @later tell mtompset signoffs signoffs 09:19 ere ashimema: oh, right :) 09:15 ashimema it's in the email ;) 09:15 ere ashimema: maybe wiki curation could be promoted as a way to volunteer :) 09:13 ashimema okies 09:13 cait sorry, right now bit tied up 09:13 cait i got a proposal that shoud cover it i think 09:12 ashimema we need wiki curators ;) 09:12 ashimema the info is largely out there.. just not especially well summarised 09:11 ere ashimema++ 09:10 ashimema cait.. fancy adding a short summary of your role to that page ^ ? 09:07 cait today is the day of email problems :( 09:05 * ashimema is working on it ;) 09:05 ashimema https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Project_roles 08:36 ere cait: Yes, also that the roles are not set in stone is a good thing to know :) 08:35 ere ashimema: really, if waht you just said would be in the wiki, that'd be a good start :) And then maybe start cleaning up the pages where there are only questions about what these roles might be :D 08:35 cait ? 08:35 cait ere: to say it in a positive way.... it's a role that can still shapeß 08:34 ashimema I'll see what I can do :) 08:34 josef_moravec cait: I'll try ;) 08:34 ashimema :) 08:34 ere s/participant/participating/ 08:33 ere ashimema: yeah, figured that out, but I'm thinking of others that may be interested in participant, where it would be nice to know about the basic expectations before raising a hand 08:33 ashimema haha 08:33 cait josef_moravec: you put something new in the queue... now you have to qa something for balance ;) 08:32 ashimema so.. you can sort of make what you want of it to a certain extent ere.. just keep close contact with the rm of the time and see how much responsibility they're happy to divolve :) 08:31 ashimema it's not the most defined of roles.. didn't take off a great deal 08:30 ere speaking of which, it would be great to have a bit more in the wiki about what's expected from them.. When I tried to find out about module maintainers, there were mostly questions 08:20 ashimema hehe.. get ready for the influx of new volunteers .. haha 08:10 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20640 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Needs Signoff , Allow migrating a request between backends 08:10 * ashimema tries to temp someone into attempting to test bug 20640 07:50 huginn drojf: The operation succeeded. 07:50 drojf @later tell tcohen i put a pre version of libwebservice-ils-perl in the unstable repo (upload to debian pending), nightly will pick it up as soon as 21536 or 17084 is pushed. you might need to stop cpan-ing it in devbox in case you do 07:49 cait ashimema++ ;) 07:49 andreashm ashimema++ 07:49 josef_moravec ashimema++ 07:47 tuxayo Great recuiting email on the koha-devel list :) 07:47 tuxayo ashimema++ 07:42 josef_moravec dcook: enjoy your rest ;) 07:42 drojf dcook: cool, i started playing with esp8266 recently 07:42 dcook All right. I'm off. Enjoy your Friday, all! 07:42 dcook josef_moravec: I'll start and you finish ;) 07:41 dcook Set up one of these https://tronixlabs.com.au/arduino/boards/wireless/wemos-lolin-d1-mini-arduino-compatible-esp8266-wifi-australia/ with a motion detector to hit a IFTTT webhook when it sees motion 07:41 * josef_moravec have 2 in fridge too, but there is still morning and much work ahead ;( 07:41 drojf nightly builds would be happy about a signoff ;) 07:41 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=21536 normal, P5 - low, ---, mirko, Needs Signoff , t/Koha_ExternalContent_RecordedBooks.t skips more tests than scheduled 07:41 drojf bug 21536 07:41 dcook I did end up doing a bit of programming last night heh 07:41 dcook or two 07:41 josef_moravec beer++ :D 07:40 andreashm hehe 07:39 drojf a nice get back to bed beer 07:38 andreashm beer would be nice. just not quite so early in the morning... =) 07:37 andreashm +1 07:36 drojf yep. good medicine 07:36 dcook Should have beer just to be safe 07:36 wahanui Probably is too hard. 07:36 dcook Probably 07:36 drojf hallucinating because of lack of beer? 07:35 dcook I have a few tasty ones sitting in my fridge. Waiting. Calling my name. 07:35 dcook Both see applicable heh 07:35 andreashm Go get beer! =) 07:35 andreashm eeeh, I planned to write. 07:35 dcook Time to head home for a beer and dinner I think 07:35 andreashm ehhh. 07:35 dcook On a Friday :p 07:34 dcook 6:34pm 07:34 dcook Looking at the bug again, it's not as scary as I thought it was heh 07:34 andreashm dcook: what time is it there? honestly, I'm surprised to see you still here as I started working a bit late, since I was out walking the dog 07:34 dcook Definitely ^ 07:34 dcook josef_moravec++ 07:34 andreashm josef_moravec++ 07:34 dcook So hopefully I should get a bit further along 07:34 dcook And thanks to josef_moravec, I think I have an idea of how to run the QA scripts 07:34 andreashm dcook++ 07:33 * dcook blushes 07:33 josef_moravec dcook++ 07:33 dcook Thinking I'll try chipping away at 10662 next week either in the mornings or evenings 07:33 andreashm cool! 07:33 huginn Bug 21556: minor, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , Deleting same record twice leads to fatal software error 07:33 dcook https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=21556 07:33 dcook I've got my kohadevbox running and submitted my first patch with that 07:32 dcook Not yet. I've been absolutely flat out. I'm hoping next week. 07:32 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10662 new feature, P3, ---, dcook, Failed QA , Build OAI-PMH Harvesting Client 07:32 andreashm dcook: find any of that spare time (whatever that is?) to work on bug 10662? =) 07:31 andreashm hi drojf and cait 07:30 cait and good morning all :) 07:30 andreashm dcook: =) 07:30 dcook Clearly time for me to head home :p 07:30 * dcook waves 07:30 * drojf waves 07:29 * andreashm waves 07:28 cait ah nope not yet? 07:26 ashimema did you get my pm this morning cait ? 07:26 josef_moravec morning #koha 07:23 marcelr hi ashimema 07:09 cait morning #koha 07:09 ashimema morning #koha 07:01 ere hi alex_a 07:00 alex_a hello, marcelr ere cait and fridolin 06:58 fridolin hi everyone everywhere ;) 06:56 marcelr and hi alex_a fridolin 06:56 ere hi calire 06:56 calire hi ere 06:56 ere hi marcelr and everyone 06:55 * paxed prefers not to 06:55 fridolin hit here 06:54 alex_a bonjour 06:41 reiveune salut marcelr 06:41 marcelr hi reiveune and ere 06:37 wahanui niihau, reiveune 06:37 reiveune hello 06:26 cait bbl! 06:18 cait thx! 06:16 ere cait: sure, just let me know if there's something I can help with 06:15 cait i have to run to work :( will have to look at it antoher time 06:15 ere cait: maybe I can help you help me! 06:14 ere cait: so, what's wrong with your ES? 06:14 ere cait: unfortunately I've no idea 06:14 cait do you know if someone is testing at the moment? 06:14 ere cait: true 06:13 cait might change :) 06:13 cait makes sense 06:13 ere cait: I'd love that, but I think I'm somehow involved in all of the ones I'm waiting for atm so that it's better if someone else does the qa.. 06:12 cait so focusing on the other areas a bit right now in qa 06:12 cait atm my elasticsearch is broken again :( 06:11 cait was just looking for ways to improve flow of those patches... 06:11 cait :) 06:11 ere cait: Just let me know what you need and we'll see what happens.. :D 06:11 cait i think we can treat that similarly :) 06:10 ere cait: Well, yeah :) 06:10 cait or will be 06:10 cait aah you are already module maint 06:10 cait a sign-off can count towards QA 06:10 cait https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Roles_for_19.05 06:10 ere cait: Depends on what it really means (wiping the floor is fine, but I'm afraid of heights) :) 06:08 cait ere: would you interested in a job as elasticsearch qa expert? :) 06:07 ere morning #koha 06:01 Archie_ ha cait 06:01 * cait waves 06:01 Archie_ good morning marcelr 05:36 calire hey marcelr 05:36 marcelr hi calire 05:36 calire morning #koha 05:36 marcelr hi #koha 05:01 huginn dcook: gmcharlt was last seen in #koha 2 days, 8 hours, 35 minutes, and 11 seconds ago: <gmcharlt> cait: awww. yeah, my colleagues mentioned that to me; just tied up keeping fires burning at home, as it were 05:01 dcook @seen gmcharlt 03:05 mtompset I'm crashing hard. Have a great day, #koha dcook wizzyrea 02:34 dcook It should be safer to use "input" rather than "false" in the event you work on both windows and linux for the same working directory 02:33 dcook I think in this case, the koha git repo must have been an old one created with the "true" config setting 02:33 dcook Actually, I don't think I do "Checkout as-is, commit as-is" (false). I do "Checkout as-is, commit Unix-style line endings" (input) for Koha. And by default Git for Windows does "Checkout Windows-style, commit Unix-style line endings" (true). 02:09 dcook Hmm looks like the git was actually already configured correctly. Hmmm. Maybe it wasn't in the past... 02:03 dcook wizzyrea: You're right. The environment is configured soooo nicely. 02:02 dcook Wee! Done! 02:00 mtompset true. 02:00 * dcook thumbs up 02:00 dcook Then just locally change it for your Koha repo 02:00 dcook So you could actually leave the default for git bash for windows 01:59 dcook Anyway 01:59 dcook Well and only with Koha in terms of sharing with Linux on the same system 01:59 dcook For other projects, it's not necessarily an issue 01:59 dcook Well wrong for working with Koha at least 01:59 mtompset CrispyBran had that problem today. 01:59 dcook I know ;) 01:59 mtompset The default is the wrong one. :( 01:59 mtompset When you set up git bash in windoze... always remember to change the checkout as is and checkin as is. 01:52 dcook Yeah the git clone was set up using the git bash from windows. I've dealt with this before. Silly me. 01:51 mtompset are you git bashing from windoze? 01:50 dcook Uh oh I've screwed up my line endings... 01:50 * dcook is new to kohadevbox 01:50 dcook Still working on getting a patch up 01:50 huginn Bug 21556: minor, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Deleting same record twice leads to fatal software error 01:50 dcook https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=21556 01:50 huginn mtompset: The operation succeeded. 01:50 mtompset @later tell CrispyBran blame caching. You need to restart_all between git bz's. 01:48 mtompset which bug? 01:40 dcook Maybe we can all find a better one 01:40 dcook Not sure if everyone will agree with the solution but... 01:40 dcook Excellent. Bug fixed. 01:38 dcook I actually have a fix I wrote for something else that shoudl work here... 01:38 * dcook waves 01:35 mtompset I actually thought of you guys recently while looking at bugs, but can't remember context. Oh well. :) 01:34 wizzyrea hi mtompset 01:34 mtompset Greetings, wizzyrea dcook 01:34 * mtompset is awake sort of. :) 01:27 wizzyrea mmm devbox is hands down easier than any other way these days 01:26 dcook I think I was just trying to do the fastest/easiest thing for me before, but I figure if I do it all with kohadevbox, it makes it easier for other people to reproduce, test, and sign off... 01:25 wizzyrea it makes it easy for sure 01:25 dcook Now to fix the bug... when I have a million other things that I should be doing <_< 01:25 * dcook wants to do more of his community contributions via kohadevbox 01:24 dcook Ok reproduced the bug in kohadevbox. Woo! 01:21 wizzyrea >.> 01:18 * dcook remembers when he was just going to move to Australia for 6 months.. 01:17 dcook 10.. 01:17 dcook Don't mind me. Just letting my worldview re-align. 01:16 dcook That's good :) 01:15 wizzyrea yeah he's well enough 01:15 dcook Where have the last 7 years gone? hah 01:15 wizzyrea ^.^ 01:15 dcook Christ... 01:15 wizzyrea he's 10! 01:15 dcook Must be so much older than I'm thinking as he started school ages ago... 01:15 dcook How's spud doing? 01:14 dcook It's not controlling if they like it of their own accord >_> 01:14 wizzyrea :) 01:14 dcook Although I'm all "That's right kiddo. Like Marvel." 01:14 dcook We don't even do any spiderman stuff at home. It's all from other kids. 01:14 dcook Always spraying webs at people 01:14 dcook My kid is a huge spiderman fan 01:13 dcook lol 01:13 wizzyrea hehe, that's why kids relate to the Hulk 01:13 dcook And today it was clearly being pissed off that I wouldn't go to the cafe 01:13 dcook It's really neat seeing their mind develop though. Like what seems like an irrational tantrum to an adult is completely rational to a kid. 01:12 dcook Yeah, I try not to be too controlling, although sometimes it feels like a fine line between controlling and overly permissive 01:12 dcook Well except the cafe addiction 01:12 wizzyrea if you can manage to not be too controlling, that's probably true. 01:12 dcook I figure all the things that make life hard for the parents now will be assets to the kiddo later in life. 01:11 wizzyrea ^.^ 01:11 dcook Huge. And stubborn. But overall good heh. 01:11 wizzyrea how's the kiddo? 01:10 dcook Most of the complaints are probably self-inflicted anyway :p 01:10 dcook Yeah pretty good. Not too many complaints. 01:09 wizzyrea neither here nor there really, how about you? 01:09 dcook Feel like we haven't chatted for a really long time 01:08 dcook Also, how've you been keeping, wizzyrea? 01:06 * dcook needs the massage that the doctor recommended back in March 01:06 dcook I have things here to eat but wouldn't mind other things. But my muscles are sore and I don't want to go anywhere. heh 01:06 wizzyrea yeah, I didn't see the point lol :) 01:05 * dcook is debating lunch atm 01:05 dcook We could probably just increase the timeout but yeah it's one of those things that's like "ehhhh" 01:05 dcook heh 01:05 wizzyrea like I said it normally doesn't worry me too much I just don't do that thing that makes it die :P 01:05 wizzyrea it's only in the devbox it's quite strange 01:04 wizzyrea well not for testing/dev really 01:04 dcook For most things a person probably doesn't need them 01:04 dcook Makes sense 01:04 wizzyrea if required 01:04 wizzyrea and import them manually later 01:04 dcook Mmm I could see that. People must usually just use the defaults 01:04 wizzyrea I leave them off now when I do the installer in devbox 01:04 wizzyrea I think it's the frameworks that do it? 01:03 dcook "reset_all" time I think 01:03 wizzyrea do it with less sample data. 01:03 wizzyrea yeah that happens sometimes 01:03 wizzyrea ah 01:03 dcook Got a timeout the first time and now it's a bit borked 01:03 dcook I wonder if folk run the web installer for kohadevbox...