Time Nick Message 23:42 alexbuckley hi mtompset 23:42 mtompset You there? 23:42 mtompset Greetings, alexbuckley. 23:40 huginn mtompset: CrispyBran was last seen in #koha 1 hour, 30 minutes, and 12 seconds ago: <CrispyBran> @later tell tcohen it looks like vagrant 2.1.3 and 2.1.4 have a bug that is not detecting the plugin at the right point, so it fails. I have to downgrade to 2.1.2 for now. I will try later. 23:40 mtompset @seen CrispyBran 23:38 huginn mtompset: The operation succeeded. 23:38 mtompset @later tell tcohen Thanks for the LOCAL_ANSIBLE=1 clue. 23:38 huginn mtompset: tcohen was last seen in #koha 4 hours, 50 minutes, and 20 seconds ago: <tcohen> mtompset: LOCAL_ANSIBLE=1 is mandatory for bionic 23:38 mtompset @seen tcohen 23:28 huginn rangi: The operation succeeded. 23:28 rangi @later tell caroline https://koha-community.org/manual/18.11/en/html/ all the pages should now have a last updated bit at the bottom 22:10 huginn CrispyBran: The operation succeeded. 22:10 CrispyBran @later tell tcohen it looks like vagrant 2.1.3 and 2.1.4 have a bug that is not detecting the plugin at the right point, so it fails. I have to downgrade to 2.1.2 for now. I will try later. 22:04 caroline bye #koha! 21:14 Freddy_Enrique Bye all :)( 21:02 huginn CrispyBran: The operation succeeded. 21:02 CrispyBran @later tell tcohen everything is set, but vagrant acts like vagrant-vbguest is not installed. Can't go any further. 20:53 cait :) 20:53 Freddy_Enrique have a good night 20:53 caroline bye cait! 20:52 cait good night all 20:51 ashimema I was just wondering the same 20:51 ashimema Hehe 20:44 huginn Joubu: The operation succeeded. 20:44 Joubu @later tell tcohen did you fix emails on jenkins? 20:38 Freddy_Enrique but for better or worse this platform has become the favorite means of information here. Second place goes for TV 20:35 Freddy_Enrique TROLL* 20:35 Freddy_Enrique I wont't deny the fact that a couple of times I saw fake news on Facebook. The term TROLLS was getting a bigt protagonism lately 20:33 wizzyrea it certainly can be. 20:33 wizzyrea ah I don't think of propaganda as political. 20:32 caroline wizzyrea: not necessarily (for me propaganda is political, I don't know if that's right), but things like "eating bananas everyday will make you lose 10 pounds!" or "Mount XX is actually a volcano and will erupt in the next 5 years" 20:32 Freddy_Enrique Uhm, recently yes. Especially for the mayor campaigns 20:31 wizzyrea you mean propaganda? 20:31 caroline Do you have a lot of problems with information accuracy (fake news)? 20:30 Freddy_Enrique I see... now that I think about it, Facebook has impacted South America the way people access information 20:28 caroline Freddy_Enrique: I was looking for official data, but here in Quebec it says 64% of adults use Facebook, much less than Peru (it's data from 2016 though) 20:27 rangi caroline: ive updated that page now 20:26 wizzyrea better than putting out fires I guess 20:26 gmcharlt cait: awww. yeah, my colleagues mentioned that to me; just tied up keeping fires burning at home, as it were 20:26 cait was hoping to see you again :) 20:25 cait gmcharlt: we missed you at kohacon btw 20:25 wizzyrea cool I've just updated the page. 20:25 gmcharlt rangi: yep, one of them 20:25 rangi gmcharlt: are you still admin of the koha facebook thingy? 20:25 rangi nicole, mj, galen 20:24 caroline ah! so we have to find someone else 20:24 rangi there was always more than me 20:24 cait so someone created another? 20:24 rangi yeah it lies 20:24 rangi i deleted it a few years ago 20:24 caroline rangi it says on https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_on_Social_Networks that you are admin... 20:24 cait becuase the page still says: that's all we know for now and the wiki page it links to makes it really hard to find 20:23 rangi caroline: i dont have a facebook account 20:23 cait ah, i think I was asking if you could link the menu item directly to: https://kohacon2018.bywatersolutions.com/ 20:23 wizzyrea something about kohacon 20:23 Freddy_Enrique How is it in your countries, do people use it as much as mine? 20:23 caroline rangi for Facebook, if Freddy_Enrique wanted to manage it, would you give him the credentials? How does it work? 20:23 cait wizzyrea: sorry, do you know what link it was? 20:20 Freddy_Enrique I don't know if thats a good sign though 20:20 Freddy_Enrique Believe or not, Facebook is a platform that 99 of peruvians use 20:20 Freddy_Enrique I would like it 20:20 ashimema nighty night #koha 20:20 wizzyrea (CrispyBran - all of that would need to be done inside your vagrant ssh, if that wasn't clear, unless you're using the shared repo thing) 20:20 * ashimema needs to call it a night 20:19 caroline Freddy_Enrique: we are looking for a manager for the Facebook account if you're interested https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Roles_for_19.05 20:19 wizzyrea 👠20:18 Freddy_Enrique R.I.P facebook 20:18 Joubu CrispyBran: ssh keys 20:18 CrispyBran got it. Thanks 20:18 wizzyrea CrispyBran, those links were for you 20:18 wizzyrea a lot of water under my bridge in the last couple of weeks 20:18 alexbuckley agreed wizzyrea 20:17 caroline Fred King did a great one with Avenging chicken 20:17 wizzyrea cait you sent me a url a while back, but i lost it 20:17 wizzyrea a blog post on the wesite might be nice 20:17 caroline I think davidnind took some for the twitter account 20:17 wizzyrea it's not a place we keep stuff really. 20:17 Freddy_Enrique Last time I checked, the last publication was on 2016 20:16 Freddy_Enrique Some photos of the conference and hackfest would be nice on the koha facebook profile 20:16 cait caroline: we should totally do that! 20:16 wizzyrea https://gist.github.com/developius/c81f021eb5c5916013dc 20:16 wizzyrea https://stackoverflow.com/questions/11403407/git-asks-for-username-every-time-i-push OR maybe use keys and git+ssh 20:16 ashimema or perhaps an elastic search guru 20:16 CrispyBran in the vars? 20:15 ashimema and maybe a dbic one.. 20:15 ashimema currently looking at trying to talk a mojo core dev to pop along 20:15 ashimema I'm investigating getting some outside of koha devs to come along and give some talks at the 'hackfest' bit.. 20:15 CrispyBran I haven't done it before 20:15 wizzyrea (idk what that is, but I'm sure it can be done) 20:15 caroline I thought hackfest was like live-developping a new feature with librarian saying what they want and devs coding it 20:14 wizzyrea CrispyBran, it's probably the same way you'd do it on any linux box 20:14 ashimema workshops is a nice rename.. I'm game with that. 20:14 Freddy_Enrique hackfest... At first I thought I was going to see some cool stuff of how to hack someone 20:13 CrispyBran anyone know if you can store your github credentials in kohadevbox environment? 20:12 wizzyrea better than hackathon. 20:12 wizzyrea well hackparty is kind of the intent. 20:12 cait [off] fest means party in German so I was once asked to explain on my travel request form :) 20:11 rangi thats my plan for 2020 anyway 20:11 cait yeah it always requires explanation 20:11 cait sound good to me 20:11 rangi cos hackfest scares off non devs 20:11 rangi 3 day workshops 20:11 rangi 1 day social 20:11 cait hackfest is where we all get together with the laptops and work on different topics in groups 20:11 rangi 3 day of presentations 20:11 rangi 1 conference 20:10 rangi i want to rename the 2 bits 20:10 cait and then another 3 days of hackfest 20:10 cait one day for some sight seeing/cultural event 20:10 cait Freddy_Enrique: the conference is usually 3 days of conf with presentations 20:10 * Joubu is wondering what he did in a previous life to have to parse XMLish with regexs... 20:09 cait we did... :) 20:09 Freddy_Enrique you guys really meet in person... didn't you.... 20:09 cait :) 20:09 caroline cait: you can *always* count me in for ice cream (even in winter, if necessary) 20:08 cait caroline: i was so glad to have you and others joining me for icecream this year :) 20:08 * ashimema has a slightly higher change of doing NZ in 2020 though this way around he thinks 20:08 * ashimema liked both locations in this round 20:07 ashimema lol 20:07 Joubu btw I am wondering if Dublin would have won without the Guinness tower 20:07 Freddy_Enrique what is this... hackfest? 20:07 ashimema don't forget the hackfest that follows it too.. 20:07 Freddy_Enrique O.o? well well... You got my attetion XD 20:07 ashimema people do it on lots of different budgets... but yeah, depending on where it is it can get expensive just finding a flight 20:06 caroline (and drink lots of beer, cause apparently, that's what we do at kohacon) 20:06 ashimema hehe 20:06 * Freddy_Enrique takes out his calculator 20:05 Freddy_Enrique heh... 20:05 caroline (and stay, and eat) 20:05 ashimema but of course.. one has to get there ;) 20:05 ashimema free to attend 20:05 Freddy_Enrique sorry, maybe I shouldn't have asked that question 20:04 Freddy_Enrique uhm.... is it expensive? 20:04 cait people from lots of different countries are attending, it's really great 20:03 ashimema it's a fantastic event :) 20:02 caroline Freddy_Enrique: the presentations are in English, but yes, the participants are international (it's really great!) 20:01 Freddy_Enrique you all participate even though you are from different contries? 20:00 ashimema it rotates around the world with different voluntary hosts each time 20:00 ashimema theres a conference every year Freddy_Entrique 20:00 talljoy hi koha 20:00 caroline It's Interleaf technologies, Dublin Business School and PTFS-Europe who are organizing it 19:59 Freddy_Enrique are you guys arranging it? 19:59 Freddy_Enrique you are arranging it? 19:58 caroline Freddy_Enrique: yes 19:58 Freddy_Enrique 2019? 19:58 Freddy_Enrique KohaCon19 stands for conference right? 19:58 * Freddy_Enrique back from duties 19:43 alexbuckley hehe hi Joubu 19:42 Joubu Hi New Zealanders 19:42 alexbuckley :) 19:42 ashimema hi alexbuckley 19:42 * ashimema ducks 19:41 caroline Hi alexbuckley! 19:41 alexbuckley hi koha 19:32 * ashimema can't remember what it was that was going to be added to that server that caused the issue in the first place.. I take it it never came to fruition 19:31 ashimema rangi++ 19:31 ashimema rangi, you are a star :) 19:31 ashimema I notice bugzilla momentarily dissapear 19:30 ashimema I wondered if that was you playing :) 19:30 ashimema ohhh 19:30 rangi ashimema: https://splitter.koha-community.org/ 19:06 ashimema Ta for adding kohacon19 to the calendar Joubu 18:56 oleonard Bye all 18:47 tcohen mtompset: LOCAL_ANSIBLE=1 is mandatory for bionic 18:47 corilynn I'll see if I can sign some off tomorrow 18:47 tcohen mtompset: do you have more info? are you using LOCAL_ANSIBLE? 18:46 tcohen hi mtompset 18:46 cait ok, have a good day :) 18:45 cait https://dashboard.koha-community.org/ - have you seen the dashboard? 18:45 corilynn k, I'm off to job #2 18:45 cait 190 waiting for testing 18:45 cait at the moment the queue is still quite long 18:43 corilynn I'm just hoping I did it right :) 18:43 corilynn no worries 18:43 cait makes it hard to calculate for 18:43 cait corilynn: it depends on people, who has time to look at things etc 18:43 huginn mtompset: The operation succeeded. 18:43 mtompset @later tell tcohen I can't get the bionic up. It dies at Gathering Facts. 18:42 mtompset Are you here, tcohen? 18:42 huginn mtompset: tcohen was last seen in #koha 3 hours, 15 minutes, and 31 seconds ago: <tcohen> @seen CrispyBran 18:42 mtompset @seen tcohen 18:41 corilynn oleonard, but the last one I was supposed to do myself and like three people jumped on it while I was trying to get back to it... 18:41 oleonard corilynn: Getting a signoff within a day is fairly rare 18:40 * corilynn extracts some of the whine from that last message 18:40 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19263 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, carnold, Needs Signoff , Advanced Editor - Rancor - Add auto control number (001) widget 18:40 corilynn so, everyone was all excited about signing off on my spaces at the end of the row bug... but poor bug 19263 has seen no such joy :( 18:38 * oleonard gets a paper route in 1982 18:38 corilynn oleonard, it doesn't pay 18:36 * oleonard gets a paper route 18:36 huginn mtompset: The operation succeeded. 18:36 mtompset @later tell ashimema refactor attempt not going smoothly for bug 15529. Have fun with it. 18:36 oleonard Not even a year away! 18:36 caroline +1! 18:34 Joubu KohaCon19 added to the Koha calendar ;) 17:22 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 11897: (follow-up) Add Stock Rotation atomic update schema <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=216a8f1d0301093d7bd90c1a13d10ebd03d23d6b> 17:22 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 11897: Add mising semi-colon to user*.sql <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=f11cb49a3682221b5e72de03a8627e14d879d1c0> 17:18 Freddy_Enrique what the.... 17:17 * Freddy_Enrique starts thinking about the meaning of conch 17:16 wahanui i am a political leader 17:16 Freddy_Enrique wahanui what are you? 17:16 wahanui i am a conch 17:16 Freddy_Enrique wahanui who are you? 17:16 Freddy_Enrique Ill give it a try... 17:15 Freddy_Enrique jajaja 17:11 caroline +1 17:11 oleonard I'm a bot created by the human oleonard to be here while the real oleonard is starting his internet cafe chain 17:11 caroline oleonard are you a bot? 17:10 oleonard I'm not the one who doesn't know if he's a bot or not. 17:10 CrispyBran :) 17:10 CrispyBran oleonard is crazy today 17:09 wahanui wish i knew, caroline 17:09 caroline wahanui are you a conch? 17:08 wahanui oleonard: no idea 17:08 oleonard wahanui are you a bot? 17:08 wahanui i am a political leader 17:08 oleonard wahanui what are you? 17:08 wahanui i am a political leader 17:08 oleonard wahanui who are you? 17:08 wahanui yes, oleonard? 17:08 oleonard wahanui? 17:05 wahanui okay, oleonard. 17:05 oleonard wahanui is also a conch 17:05 wahanui okay, oleonard. 17:05 oleonard wahanui is also a political leader 17:04 caroline backstreet is also back wahanui 17:03 wahanui ...but wahanui is back??!!!... 17:03 ashimema wahanui wahanui is either a political leader or a conch, some people feel there's not much difference right now 17:03 ashimema Lol 17:01 caroline you crack me up! 17:00 caroline XD 17:00 * oleonard would rather have a conch as a political leader these days 17:00 caroline Didn't think so 17:00 wahanui caroline: i haven't a clue 17:00 caroline wahanui, what are you? a political leader or a conch? 17:00 wahanui oleonard: what? 17:00 oleonard wahanui: Never mind. 16:59 wahanui oleonard: what? 16:59 oleonard wahanui: list 16:58 cait http://maoridictionary.co.nz/search?idiom=&phrase=&proverb=&loan=&keywords=wahanui 16:58 cait maybe it's it 16:57 caroline ooh mustache! 16:56 oleonard Not that bots require a gender, but I think wahanui gets he/him because of the man https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wahanui 16:56 ashimema I can never remember how to talk to wahanui 16:55 caroline I thought you wanted a man wahanui vs a woman wahanui, was confused 16:55 wahanui ...but mtompset is about to test and sign off bug 21385. :)... 16:55 oleonard wahanui: mtompset is not about to test and sign off bug 21385 16:54 * ashimema wants a 'man wahanui' 16:54 cait all good 16:54 cait hm 16:54 wahanui yes, cait? 16:54 cait wahanui? 16:54 wahanui ...but mtompset is about to test and sign off bug 21385. :)... 16:54 wahanui cait? 16:54 ashimema wahanui mtompset is on a sign off marathon 16:54 cait wahanui? 16:54 caroline aw... I thought he'd remember that and spout it out when we said wahanui? 16:53 ashimema Hehe 16:53 caroline wahanui is now a verb 16:53 ashimema Oh.. I just got wahanui'd 16:52 ashimema Are you.. thought that one was pushed 16:52 cait ashimema++ 16:51 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=21385 major, P2, ---, martin.renvoize, Pushed to Stable , Vendor search: Item count is incorrectly updated on partial receive 16:51 wahanui mtompset is, like, about to test and sign off bug 21385. :) 16:51 caroline hey mtompset! 16:51 CrispyBran hello mtompset 16:51 mtompset Greetings, Joubu caroline CrispyBran oleonard cait 16:50 * ashimema passes chicken soup to cait 16:37 CrispyBran I see how it is. :) 16:37 * cait got knocked down by a cold 16:37 cait :) 16:37 * oleonard slips some candy under the table to cait 16:36 CrispyBran :P 16:36 cait :( 16:36 CrispyBran no candy for you 16:36 cait sorry, i've been pretty useless the last few days :( 16:33 CrispyBran tcohen: kohadevbox seems to be out of space. I can't bring it up. Thoughts? 16:31 wahanui hi, CrispyBran 16:31 CrispyBran hello 16:31 caroline hi CrispyBran! 16:30 * CrispyBran waves 16:22 kidclamp chugging along 16:21 ashimema poor kiclamp.. 44 patchsets in his queue to push 16:20 ashimema ack.. who just did a bunch of SO's... I was so nearly under 50 in the NQA queue.. lol 16:19 ashimema me is absolutely delighted that particular bug is pushed though :) 16:19 ashimema lol.. and that's just one bugs worth ;) 16:15 caroline push all the things! 16:15 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 11897: Add Stock Rotation atomic update schema. <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=5088e3084dad6c66cb3f3a2e6127e98974dc81b6> 16:15 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 11897: DBIX::Class::Ordered in Stockrotationstage. <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=d87bffa0911e21def994018977e667e028e0c4aa> 16:15 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 11897: Add Boolean handling to dbic classes. <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=06e4af6ba8baf412e6adca5ef386255e31f2ead3> 16:15 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 11897: Stockrotation <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=85be5a81883b9b8d7d071ec39e63021d504a75de> 16:15 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 15520: (QA follow-up) Fix renaming of circ rules permission <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=63fdde7a9fd627c4692080e5bccd0cfe6d905c29> 16:15 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 11897: (QA follow-up) Remove rebase leftover <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a21025b7d9c7b2aa09ad6e4851f10c7c41d8d8bd> 16:15 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 11897: (QA follow-up) Fix tests <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b8d425ac35eca05a5a3217b1678dfccc25aa3c26> 16:15 cait ah... nice to watch :) 16:15 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 11897: Use 'stockrotation' permission for the endpoint <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a9248f237d9de916e504d59e6490c7f84e9eb763> 16:15 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 11897: Add sample notices for all languages <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=2bcaa4004c2a1e06dc02a342d2950ad7df75ada3> 16:15 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 11897: (QA follow-up) Template filter fixes <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=732ff4b1c6c46dfcd9c71943f62f33a1e6484608> 16:15 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 11897: 'superlibrarian' has 'stockrotation' perms <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b2ff7223b795f138d74606becc8ccb6b7c1e305d> 16:15 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 11897: (QA follow-up) Fixes for JS12 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=513aa79a5bf1f3db49288ebaafe372fc8ff7b7ab> 16:15 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 11897: (QA follow-up) Update of tools-menu.js <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=fac27bc029245aaf08b377ab86c9d23227135014> 16:15 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 11897: (QA follow-up) Move menu to 'Catalog' <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=f72002d9979771fd9913e5f3c0f89ecb2a4311f4> 16:15 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 11897: Translatability and wrong escaping fix <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=7ce34d94caf3a0e64eafe0aedbedd5baaa255124> 16:15 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 15520: DBRev 18.06.00.039 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=8a2c5344d7910d60e0f04ca531e17250753755a7> 16:15 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 15734: Use To.json to filter audio alerts <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=58314233f70fd9fd2f2830250ff0362e369b6ff1> 16:15 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 11897: (QA follow-up) Convert atomic update to perl <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=97acf28fef5f95f0e32c4319f7d9781c5522b79b> 16:15 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 11897: DBRev 18.06.00.040 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=2f2e40ca4674449c598799b1a47d156e50b91fa0> 16:15 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 7143: (follow-up) remove trailing apostrophe <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=01646f974355f48a97ca61936cf3a787f6077af2> 16:12 caroline Netflix are very menacing towards proxy users... I'm afraid of them 16:11 caroline I wish :) 16:10 oleonard We know you're just trying to watch US Netflix, don't even pretend 16:10 * mtompset nods. 16:09 caroline ugh... I hate VPNs that lock me out of my own network... 16:00 mtompset re: scratch --- my son LOVES scratch. He's on that website creating things all the time. 15:48 ashimema Lol 15:47 Joubu ashimema: well, she will then be ready to write a second patch and take a look at C4::Auth 15:44 ashimema I was thinking of taxing her a little more than that 😉 15:44 oleonard This is the only Scratch I know: http://pvponline.com/comic/november-3-2004 15:43 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18584 trivial, P5 - low, ---, carnold, Pushed to Master , Our legacy code contains trailing-spaces 15:43 Joubu ashimema: for a simple patch see bug 18584 and koha-howto ;) 15:28 ashimema Scratch isn't as viable on Linux since they switched to actionscript though 15:26 huginn tcohen: CrispyBran was last seen in #koha 18 hours, 2 minutes, and 10 seconds ago: <CrispyBran> corilynn: you need to remove the hash (#) in front of that status when you edit (-e). 15:26 tcohen @seen CrispyBran 15:24 ashimema I volunteered at coder dojo for a while though.. my eldest enjoyed that 15:24 ashimema Our library has a code club.. but my kids aren't old enough to attend (and as far as I can tell are already a bit advanced for the class they would attend when they are) 15:15 corilynn that's cool. I was a developer before I was a librarian... I guess I'm back to being a developer too 15:14 caroline *some 15:14 caroline https://www.codeclubworld.org/projects/ Come libraries have code clubs, but I think librarians don't feel good enough in coding to get into it more 15:14 ashimema I like scratch 15:13 corilynn scratch is excellent 15:13 corilynn "platform" 15:13 corilynn publishing is hard, tho... you already have to have a following 15:12 ashimema Cool corilynn 15:12 corilynn I wrote a "How to code by creating games" book in Scratch and Processing like a million years ago 15:09 ashimema She's done a bit of html and a fair bit of scratch to date.. no perl though yet.. 15:07 ashimema I was going to try a find a simple patch for my daughter to write as it happens for her a cub scout badge 😉 15:06 ashimema Lol 15:05 * oleonard keeps forgetting to start a Koha development sweatshop staffed by his children 15:05 reiveune bye 15:02 mtompset I can do that today. Child care duties are more important. :) 15:01 ashimema Maybe I'll take a look at how hard that might be this evening and add as a follow-up . Currently juggling child care duties 😉 15:00 ashimema Mmm, I agree 14:58 mtompset Requiring locking per type and running through the types selected seems like an enhancement. 14:58 mtompset ashimema, should be allow no lock backward compatibility? That's the real question. If not, then fail for that. 14:56 ashimema Joubu, I saw your comment on bug 21072.. and agree it's not backport worthy at that complexity.. but I would be willing to to a half measures approach to hide the button in 18.05 if Nick was keen to have something rather than nothing in stable 14:54 ashimema Before I fail it too hastily 14:54 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15529 normal, P5 - low, ---, alexbuckley, Patch doesn't apply , Process Message Queue may send duplicate emails if process is launched twice 14:54 ashimema Tcohen or Joubu, I wouldn't mind a second opinion on bug 15529 regarding comment 33 14:53 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=21072 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Should not show 'Update patron to adult' if no adult patron categories 14:53 Joubu ashimema: did you see comment my comment on bug 21072? 14:52 ashimema Indeed.. but as this fix also doesn't support a no locking version for backwards compatibility I think it becomes a regression to not take account of type in the lock 14:50 huginn Joubu: The operation succeeded. 14:50 Joubu @later tell josef_moravec Hi Josef! Do not forget to link bug reports, to avoid duplicated work (like 21481 vs 21483). Great work btw, your patches were much more complete than mine :) 14:35 mtompset and lock each type as you go. 14:35 mtompset You'd have to purposefully run through "selected types" in a sort of loop. 14:34 mtompset I would think that is beyond the scope of this bug. 14:33 mtompset The type isn't part of the locking key, so you can't run simultaneously non-overlapping types. 14:32 mtompset OOOOH! 14:32 mtompset Oops... no, it's already in there: type. I'm not sure the problem. 14:31 mtompset you mean sms, email? That's method. 14:27 ashimema Comment 33 on the bug 14:26 ashimema I think there needs a bit more thought around that 14:26 ashimema I added a comment about the script be able to be called with a message type specified 14:25 mtompset ashimema, What do you mean the type stuff? 14:23 * ashimema is now on the school run.. so expect intermittent replies 14:23 ashimema What about the type stuff.. what do you think about that? 14:14 mtompset But the comment about ZEBRA_DIR is valid, and it needs a followup for that. 14:13 ashimema I'll give it another go mtompset 14:13 ashimema hmm 14:13 ashimema (to date I've not actually had one 😉 ) 14:13 * Freddy_Enrique new was gonna watch bugzilla at some point 14:13 ashimema but those are rather unlikely. 14:13 ashimema so.. if a bug is reported against 18.05 for instance.. I first check if it's a bug in master.. if it is I re-assign to master and then once a fix is pushed to master I'll port it back and the waterfall will continue.. if it only applies to 18.05 I'll do a fix just for my branch and let Frido know to check 17.11 14:13 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15529 normal, P5 - low, ---, alexbuckley, Patch doesn't apply , Process Message Queue may send duplicate emails if process is launched twice 14:13 mtompset ashimema, I was able to apply bug 15529 after a git reset --hard and a git pull no issue. 14:11 ashimema release maintainers also watch bugzilla for version specific bugs Freddy_Enrique 14:11 fridolin best place in the world 14:11 ashimema you guys talk fast ;) 14:11 Freddy_Enrique O.o... holy mustache 14:11 ashimema just catching up on the reading 14:11 fridolin its french riviera 14:10 ashimema here 14:10 fridolin Freddy_Enrique: i'm in France, next to Montpellier 14:10 mtompset You here, ashimema? 14:10 Freddy_Enrique GMT+2... where are you from fridolin 14:10 huginn mtompset: ashimema was last seen in #koha 17 minutes and 15 seconds ago: <ashimema> hehe.. no worries 14:10 mtompset @seen ashimema 14:10 mtompset Greetings, Freddy_Enrique 14:10 Freddy_Enrique Hi mtompset 14:09 mtompset Greetings, #koha. 14:08 fridolin Freddy_Enrique: oh im always there, but i'm in GMT+2 14:08 Freddy_Enrique roles... aja! 14:08 fridolin roles are by vote https://wiki.koha-community.org/w/index.php?title=Roles_for_19.05 14:07 Freddy_Enrique where have you been all my life fridolin, first time I see you.. 14:07 fridolin that is why you see signed-off by of RMamanger, then stable RMaint, then oldstable RMaint 14:06 caroline So maintainer for stable goes through bugs that are pushed to master and applies them to stable version; maintainer for oldstable goes through bugs pushed to stable and applies them to oldstable; maintainer for oldoldstable goes through bugs pushed to oldstable and applies them to oldoldstable 14:06 fridolin Freddy_Enrique i'm currently on 17.11 maintaing from patches comming in 18.05 14:06 Joubu yep, in 99% of the cases 14:05 fridolin ... and so on 14:05 fridolin old stable get fixes from stable 14:05 fridolin but for stable only 14:05 fridolin caroline: its that 14:04 caroline correct me if I'm wrong ashimema, Joubu, fridolin 14:04 caroline Freddy_Enrique: someone is assigned (or assigns themselves) as "maintainer" for a particular version. They go through the bugs that are fixed ("pushed to master") and apply them to the version they are maintaining 14:03 Freddy_Enrique again, thanks a lot guys 14:03 * Freddy_Enrique feeling inspired, looks for his pencil 14:02 Freddy_Enrique Joubu: was having problems understanding how the versions are managed, but it is getting clear now 14:02 caroline *internet 14:01 caroline oleonard: for your internat cafe, you will definitely need that CD-ROM 14:01 * calire loved myst, but was terrible at it 14:01 Freddy_Enrique XD 14:01 * oleonard pops that old Myst CD-ROM into his Windows 95 Dell. 14:00 Joubu caroline: I was kidding of course :) At least there is a '5' in common, both are considered as very stable but with security vulnerabilities 14:00 Freddy_Enrique well, with this new info.. the recomendation is to be up to date 13:59 Freddy_Enrique the topic of my draft will be... 13:59 Freddy_Enrique thanks a lot guys btw.. I'll work on it 13:59 Freddy_Enrique Sorry guys, been in a meeting 13:59 Freddy_Enrique Joubu++ 13:58 caroline Joubu: hehe! Windows is so widely known it's easy to use it as an example ;) although I apologize for comparing Win 95 to Koha 16.05 13:57 Joubu caroline: did you compare Windows and Koha? :D 13:55 Joubu I'd suggest another "Want to help?" section, but that will make it much bigger and complex :) 13:54 Joubu Freddy_Enrique: What's the title of your graph? What do you want to represent exactly? 13:53 ashimema hehe.. no worries 13:52 ashimema just X.05 or X.11 13:52 oleonard Oh sorry I thought you meant "will be" 13:52 ashimema unless you're a dev you should never see a X.06 ;) 13:52 ashimema it only become 18.11 at point of release ;) 13:52 ashimema development is actually 18.06 oleonard (see the release manager docs on the wiki.. or just look at the version number in the current master 😉 ) 13:52 caroline You can also still work on Windows 95, but Microsoft doesn't support it, so it's like Koha 16.05 for example 13:51 Freddy_Enrique ashimema++ 13:51 Freddy_Enrique caroline++ 13:51 Freddy_Enrique more clear than water.... 13:51 ashimema when 18.11 is released.. 18.06 will become 18.11 and will be codenames 'stable', 18.05 will become oldstable, 17.11 become 'oldoldstable' and 17.05 will be 'out of maintanence' 13:51 oleonard development is 18.11 13:51 caroline but new features are only in Windows 10 13:51 caroline Freddy_Enrique: It's like Windows. You can still work on Windows 8 (don't know if that's accurate, but just for the example), and Microsoft will still issue patches for bugs on Windows 8 13:50 * Freddy_Enrique taking notes like a maniac 13:50 ashimema right now oldoldstable is 17.05, oldstable is 17.11 and stable is 18.05 .. (and development is 18.06) 13:50 caroline Freddy_Enrique: the community maintains 3 versions. So if you have 17.11 on your system for example, you can still get bug fixes, but you won't get new features 13:50 Freddy_Enrique oh, just found it in the debian installe method 13:49 oleonard We maintain one or two older versions if we have the volunteers to keep them up to date with bug fixes 13:49 Freddy_Enrique oldoldstable, that's a new one 13:49 ashimema they are 'maintained' versions 13:49 ashimema think of them as 'oldoldstable', 'oldstable' and 'stable' 13:49 oleonard Freddy_Enrique: Some people prefer to use an older version because it is seen as more stable, fewer bugs 13:49 Freddy_Enrique Why 2 versions? 17 and 18 separately 13:48 caroline hehe! sorry, I speak only minimal spanish... 13:48 * Freddy_Enrique doesn't know how to say something in English.... 13:48 caroline Freddy_Enrique: the master is the WIP version. in November, whatever is in the master will become version 18.11 and we'll continue to work on it for the 19,05 version 13:47 Freddy_Enrique caroline: those dates for the major releases are accurate? I mean... 13:46 caroline Freddy_Enrique: every month (I think) there are smaller releases to fix bugs, the numbers are YY.MM.01, YY.MM.02, etc. (so right now, I'm not sure which version is the latest, but something like 18.05.04) 13:43 caroline Freddy_Enrique: about the versions: https://koha-community.org/about/release-schedule/ the community releases two major versions per year, one in May, and one in November they are numbered like this YY.MM (so 18.05 is the May 2018 version) 13:43 * ashimema will take a look in a moment 13:42 Freddy_Enrique I missed that 13:42 Freddy_Enrique paid support... oh! 13:40 Freddy_Enrique After this I wanna see the koha versions... 17 , 18... the master. That topic is not clear to me yet 13:40 caroline Freddy_Enrique++ 13:40 oleonard I don't know what the use case is... Would it be worthwhile to add something about paid support too? 13:40 oleonard Very nice Freddy_Enrique 13:39 Freddy_Enrique https://snag.gy/TZmpDI.jpg 13:39 Freddy_Enrique I finished my first draft, hope is accurate. Tell me your thoughts please 13:37 archie oh sweet thank you 13:35 caroline *your 13:35 caroline If you want to change them through system preferences, in the interface, go to Administration > Global system preferences, search for IntranetUserJS, write you JS in there and save 13:35 oleonard archie: jQuery is a JavaScript library which is included with Koha and which can be used to apply customizations to Koha by leveraging the opacuserjs and intranetuserjs system preferences. 13:33 archie where excatly are located the jquerry files? 13:33 archie wait a second 13:33 Freddy_Enrique and git for development 13:32 Freddy_Enrique uhm... I think it is better that package method. It is meant for production 13:31 caroline I don't know javascript personally, but it seems pretty simple to change the wording on the buttons 13:31 archie ok does it metter how i installed koha? using git or packages? 13:30 caroline archie: what oleonard said, which is why it's easier to change the system preference 13:29 archie i mean, i need some sort of "proof of concept" that we can change stuffin koha before rolling out proposal that we can actually do that 13:29 Freddy_Enrique I figured... 13:29 oleonard archie: If your question is, "Where are the HTML templates for Koha's interface" we can answer that, but we always discourage changing them because it makes upgrades very difficult. 13:28 caroline you can look through here if something is similar to what you need https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/JQuery_Library 13:27 caroline archie: try the system preference IntranetUserJS 13:27 Freddy_Enrique ??? 13:26 archie right so story so far. i've installed koha, i have koha. it's on my local machine. i can access both intra and opac... now wanna see if i can tweak and change internally stuff in koha. for instanc einstead of button "patrons" i wanna change it to "hello there archie" 13:26 oleonard What's up archie? 13:25 archie god damn it i'm confused ;D 13:20 caroline Hi Freddy_Enrique! 13:19 Freddy_Enrique Greetings Koha :3 13:15 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19263 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, carnold, Needs Signoff , Advanced Editor - Rancor - Add auto control number (001) widget 13:15 corilynn bug 19263 is ready for inspection 13:14 corilynn never mind, it just needed a reload of the page :) 13:09 corilynn they do 13:09 Joubu well, at least the patches apply :) 13:09 corilynn yes... but there's still a bug 13:09 Joubu corilynn: seems ok now, right? 13:02 calire :D 13:02 wahanui calire: sorry... 13:02 calire wahanui gets all the love 13:02 oleonard Hi caroline, calire, and most of all <3 wahanui 13:01 caroline hi calire! 13:01 calire hi caroline 13:01 wahanui hi oleopard 13:01 calire hi oleonard 13:01 caroline good morning! 13:00 oleonard Hi #koha 12:56 magnuse have fun #koha, see y'all on monday! 12:56 corilynn I'm about to do git bz attach ... but here's where I think I messed up before 12:56 corilynn Joubu, I'm all clean, reapplied my update and have a commit message 12:36 archie oh sweet. thank you! 12:35 Joubu Archie: it's "borrowers" 12:35 corilynn k, trying that now 12:35 Joubu corilynn: if you have a local branch with the correct changes you should definitely obsolete all those on the bug report then resubmit all the one you have locally (git bz attach -e...) 12:32 archie i created test patron but i can't find it in neither patron_lists. patron_list_patrons nor patronimage 12:31 archie Hi guys! can anyone tell me what is the name of table for patrons? I'm in the middle of ETL project and started mapping tables 12:31 corilynn The issue I have is that I'm setting up a new dev box, and I thought I'd test this change this morning and it gave me a merge issue, then I realized whatever I did last night before shutting down is borked 12:30 corilynn I guarentee I don't. 12:30 Joubu but I am not sure I understand exactly the issue :) 12:30 corilynn k 12:29 Joubu you can obsolete the patches on the bug report, then resubmit the ones you have locally 12:29 corilynn I def. have all the changes 12:29 corilynn lets say I do... 12:29 corilynn ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 12:28 Joubu so you have a clean branch locally, with all the changes you want to submit? 12:28 corilynn I think they got flubbed, and they are "easy" changes I can recreate 12:27 corilynn that's what I mean, I want to kill this patch, plus the one before it 12:27 corilynn I created it 12:27 Joubu there is a "var reg001", where does it come from? 12:26 Joubu the last patch - https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/attachment.cgi?id=80240 12:26 corilynn looked at https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Resolve_Merge_Issues 12:26 corilynn can you walk me through that? 12:25 Joubu you can do everything with git, so yes :) 12:25 ashimema perhaps 12:25 ashimema reflog 12:24 corilynn I want to go back in time? Do you have a delorian? 12:23 Joubu what did you want to do? 12:21 corilynn I accidentally ran the commit command twice and now it's got merge issues, and I'm somehow missing a file in there... 12:20 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19263 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, carnold, ASSIGNED , Advanced Editor - Rancor - Add auto control number (001) widget 12:20 corilynn no, Bug 19263 12:19 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=21503 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, cbrannon, Needs Signoff , Update AuthorisedValues.pm to fall back to code if description doesn't exist 12:19 Joubu corilynn: bug 21503? 12:18 huginn Joubu: The operation succeeded. 12:18 Joubu @later tell RudyW no warnings on the about page? 12:18 corilynn Joubu... I need your help again, when you have a moment :( I got tired last night and really messed up the patch 12:18 Joubu RudyW: no warnings on the about page? 12:18 Joubu hi there 12:15 tcohen morning 12:14 theod or else, you will never realise this inconcistency... 12:10 theod if the field is indeed hidden, then the cloning of a record should NOT clone this value... 12:07 cait but usually this field/subfield is hidden i think 12:06 theod Even worse, if a librarian duplicates a biblio with a value in 942$0, that value will be in the new biblio record (although it should practically be 0) 12:06 cait sounds about right 12:05 theod So, since 942$0 is a subfield that can be edited/deleted by a librarian, the output of the sort will be based on the values entered by the librarian UNTIL a checkout of a relevant item is performed and that value is properly updated by the script 12:03 theod I believe that sorting by popularity is based on the indexed 942$0 values 12:02 theod The upgrade_totalissues script updates biblioitems.totalissues and (i think) updates the 942$0 too. 12:01 theod Hello everyone, I have a quick question regarding 942$0, update_totalissues script and sorting by popularity 11:44 ashimema bit early for tcohen I guess too 11:44 ashimema blimey.. not seen him in ages! 11:44 huginn ashimema: drojf was last seen in #koha 9 weeks, 5 days, 2 hours, 34 minutes, and 53 seconds ago: <drojf> and you? 11:44 ashimema @seen drojf 11:13 ashimema Mmm, I'll raise it.. think it was a very issue that came up after trying to add something else to the server 10:59 cait rangi runs it i think 10:40 ashimema or rather.. it only support http.. so is difficult to get to 10:40 ashimema it's been down for ages 10:40 ashimema does no-one use https://splitter.koha-community.org/ anymore :( 10:38 * andreashm waves 10:09 RudyW thanks anyway for your ideas 10:08 cait sorry, out of ideas then too 10:07 RudyW Showing 20 per page 10:00 cait also using zebra facets can have negative impact, but not with your size usually 09:59 cait that slows down things 09:59 cait have you changed the view per page setting? showing more than 20 per page? 09:53 RudyW I don't think because when we do direct queries to the Koha MySQL it is super fast! 09:53 cait hm mysql configuration maybe? 09:52 RudyW Compared with https://opac-kohademo.equinoxinitiative.org/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?q=math our system seems much slower 09:50 * ashimema is out of ideas 09:49 RudyW I have assigne 6GB RAM to the VMHost 09:49 ashimema that's not a huge catalogue so I doubt zebra is the limiting factor here.. but I could be wrong 09:48 RudyW on the first tab: PSGI: Plack (deployment) 09:48 cait ah sorry wrong tab, the first 09:48 RudyW We have 35000 books 09:48 ashimema very very true 09:48 ashimema indeed 09:48 RudyW I don't see anything about Plack on the 'System Information' tab 09:48 kidclamp for both ES and zebra search speed is limited by XSLT too 09:47 ashimema How large is your catalogue? 09:47 ashimema search is mostly based on Zebra performance (unless you're running Elastic in which case it's based on Elastic performance) 09:47 cait does plack show as running on about > system information? 09:46 RudyW I see in other blogs that Plack takes high CPU load. But I can't even see it on my #top list 09:46 cait every other page should load much faster with plack 09:46 cait RudyW: search is not the best to compare 09:45 * cait waves 09:45 RudyW I do my standard search for 'Math' which takes 8 secs. No difference 09:44 RudyW yes I did : sudo koha-plack --enable library && sudo koha-plack --start library and Apache2 restart 09:43 ashimema and 'How are you measuring performance' 09:43 magnuse sudo koha-plack --enable <instance> && sudo koha-plack --start <instance> 09:43 magnuse did you active and start plack? 09:43 RudyW What could be missing? 09:42 RudyW Koha About: Koha version: 18.05.04.000 / PSGI: Plack (deployment) 09:41 RudyW Any experts for Plack? I did install using the Plack Wiki. But there is no performance difference. I also don't see Plack on the # top list with %CPU % MEM 09:36 * ashimema wants oleonard on the qa team as 'ui specialist' and then he could just pass UI related fixes to him as a quick look and pass excersize 08:39 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14784 minor, P5 - low, ---, charles.farmer, Failed QA , Missing checkin message for debarred patrons when issuing rules 'fine days = 0' 08:39 tuxayo Does anyone know which way bug 14784 should be automatically tested? (the logic of the test) That will be my first time writing a test. :) 08:37 huginn magnuse: The operation succeeded. 08:37 magnuse @later tell Archie have you tried "koha-remove --purge-all"? 08:37 magnuse AndrewIsh: yay! 08:25 AndrewIsh Hi magnuse - don't worry I figured it out. A bad merge of your ILL comments patches was causing me much confusion, but all is clear now :-D 08:24 Archie coz if i try to use this solution more i see: stat of /etc/mysql/my.cnf failed: No such file or directory 08:22 Archie can't i just delete all mentions of instance library with all koha files and fully re-install it? 08:18 magnuse gah s/be/not be/ 08:17 magnuse hm, the fix from https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/DBMS_auto_increment_fix seems to be working sometimes. anyone else seeing that? 08:15 magnuse AndrewIsh: i'm here now :-) 08:15 Archie but the issue appears when i'm trying to reinstall koha-common, i get this DBI connect('database=koha_library;host=localhost;port=3306','koha_library',...) failed: Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2) at /usr/share/perl5/DBIx/Class/Storage/DBI.pm line 1517. 08:14 tuxayo Hum, does anyone using the packaged version have an idea? ^^" 08:14 Archie no the file is not there 08:13 tuxayo Archie: type `ls -l /etc/mysql/koha-common.cnf` 08:12 Archie or do you mean the koha-common.conf 08:12 Archie can you help me finding it's actual directory? (i've installed koha via packages) 08:11 tuxayo Archie: Is the file here? With which permissions? 08:11 Archie i'm running: sudo koha-remove library and i get this issue mysql: [ERROR] Could not open required defaults file: /etc/mysql/koha-common.cnf 08:10 Archie hey yall maybe you can help me out a little bit? I'm trying to remove the library instance 08:08 Archie Hi All 08:03 AndrewIsh I'll guess at what his answer to my question would have been, it's a bit of a blocker :) 08:02 AndrewIsh :) 08:02 ashimema perhaps search filtering has gone whack on my client 08:02 ashimema interesting.. he wasn't there a moment ago for me 08:02 AnnaBoten magnuse was last seen in #koha 1 hour, 21 minutes, and 6 seconds ago: <magnuse> \o/ 08:02 AndrewIsh !seen magnuse 08:01 AndrewIsh Look at the top 08:01 ashimema I'd leave him a `later` is I were you ;) 08:01 AndrewIsh He is according to my IRC client 08:01 ashimema magnuse isn't even online ;) 08:01 AndrewIsh G'morn ashimema 08:01 ashimema morning Andrewish 08:01 AndrewIsh magnuse: around? 06:47 wahanui kia ora, reiveune 06:47 reiveune hello 06:40 magnuse \o/ 06:36 wahanui hola, alex_a 06:36 alex_a bonjour 06:01 calire morning #koha 05:51 fridolin hi there 04:38 dcook Anyway, I need to focus on some things. Hope that helps. 04:38 dcook You probably won't get search results in under a second, but I wouldn't be surprised by 3 seconds instead of 8 seconds. 04:37 dcook Provided that it works without any errors, you should notice a huge performance improvement 04:37 RudyW Thank you for your help. I will let you know whether it made a difference. I hope so! 04:36 dcook Other than that, help with tuning the performance of your instance is beyond what I can provide here 04:36 dcook Basically, it's creating a web server using the Plack module which allows for a more persistent environment which increases the performance. You'll still have Apache running as a web server as well, but it will proxy requests to the Plack-based web server. 04:34 RudyW ok, let me try that - I will just take a VM snapshot first 04:33 dcook On your command line, try "sudo koha-plack --enable library" then "sudo koha-plack --start library" 04:33 dcook https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Commands_provided_by_the_Debian_packages#koha-plack 04:32 dcook Ok, well it looks like you're not using Plack, so here's a tip 04:32 RudyW The upgrade gave some errors - but everything is there what we are having on our current Koha 16.04 04:32 RudyW Then we deleted the MySQL database and restored from out backup. 04:31 RudyW we installed Ubuntu 18.04 LTS without GUI - then followed the video exactly 04:29 dcook RudyW: Did you follow the video exactly? 04:28 dcook Like a transcript for the video? 04:28 dcook Do you have a document from this process? 04:25 dcook In any case, if you followed the steps here, you should have installed with Debian packages, so that's good 04:25 dcook Not really but thanks for looking :) 04:24 RudyW Under modules I see Plack::Middleware::ReverseProxy (0.14) -- it that means anything 04:22 dcook Typically, we expect people to follow the Koha Commmunity wiki, but let's see... 04:21 dcook Yikes. Ok... 04:18 RudyW http://mysqltutes.com/wp/index.php/2018/07/04/3-installation-of-koha-18-05-on-ubuntu-18-04-lts/ 04:18 RudyW We used Koha-18.05 on Ubuntu-18.04 TLS 04:16 dcook Sounds good 04:16 RudyW Let me just go back to my installation notes 04:15 dcook Maybe following https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_on_Debian or https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_on_ubuntu_-_packages? 04:15 dcook Did you install using Debian packages? 04:15 dcook Sorry don't worry about the modules for now 04:15 dcook The installation method matters a lot to how we help 04:15 RudyW ok, let me check the modules 04:14 dcook Hmm that does sound pretty slow although I've heard of slower. 04:14 dcook That is, which instructions did you follow? 04:14 RudyW A search for 'Math' takes 8 secs (returns 1164 results) 04:14 dcook How did you install Koha? 04:13 dcook I might not have phrased my question correctly. Plack is a Perl module for using PSGI instead of CGI for communicating between the application and the web server 04:12 RudyW No, Koha is running on our own server (ESXi 5.5) 04:12 dcook Actually, now that I've asked that, I'm guessing you probably are. What sort of response times are you getting when browsing the site? 04:11 dcook RudyW: Do you know if you're using Plack? 04:11 RudyW But browsing the site is just a bit too slow. I don't understand why. Any parameters we could try to increase the user experience? 04:09 RudyW Everything is fine and direct access to our 30000 books MySQL database is super fast. 04:08 RudyW We have installed Koha 18.05 on Ubuntu 18.04 on VMWare with 6GB Ram and high resource allocation.