Time  Nick             Message
23:42 alexbuckley      hi mtompset
23:42 mtompset         You there?
23:42 mtompset         Greetings, alexbuckley.
23:40 huginn           mtompset: CrispyBran was last seen in #koha 1 hour, 30 minutes, and 12 seconds ago: <CrispyBran> @later tell tcohen it looks like vagrant 2.1.3 and 2.1.4 have a bug that is not detecting the plugin at the right point, so it fails.  I have to downgrade to 2.1.2 for now.  I will try later.
23:40 mtompset         @seen CrispyBran
23:38 huginn           mtompset: The operation succeeded.
23:38 mtompset         @later tell tcohen Thanks for the LOCAL_ANSIBLE=1 clue.
23:38 huginn           mtompset: tcohen was last seen in #koha 4 hours, 50 minutes, and 20 seconds ago: <tcohen> mtompset: LOCAL_ANSIBLE=1 is mandatory for bionic
23:38 mtompset         @seen tcohen
23:28 huginn           rangi: The operation succeeded.
23:28 rangi            @later tell caroline https://koha-community.org/manual/18.11/en/html/  all the pages should now have a last updated bit at the bottom
22:10 huginn           CrispyBran: The operation succeeded.
22:10 CrispyBran       @later tell tcohen it looks like vagrant 2.1.3 and 2.1.4 have a bug that is not detecting the plugin at the right point, so it fails.  I have to downgrade to 2.1.2 for now.  I will try later.
22:04 caroline         bye #koha!
21:14 Freddy_Enrique   Bye all :)(
21:02 huginn           CrispyBran: The operation succeeded.
21:02 CrispyBran       @later tell tcohen everything is set, but vagrant acts like vagrant-vbguest is not installed.  Can't go any further.
20:53 cait             :)
20:53 Freddy_Enrique   have a good night
20:53 caroline         bye cait!
20:52 cait             good night all
20:51 ashimema         I was just wondering the same
20:51 ashimema         Hehe
20:44 huginn           Joubu: The operation succeeded.
20:44 Joubu            @later tell tcohen did you fix emails on jenkins?
20:38 Freddy_Enrique   but for better or worse this platform has become the favorite means of information here. Second place goes for TV
20:35 Freddy_Enrique   TROLL*
20:35 Freddy_Enrique   I wont't deny the fact that a couple of times I saw fake news on Facebook. The term TROLLS was getting a bigt protagonism lately
20:33 wizzyrea         it certainly can be.
20:33 wizzyrea         ah I don't think of propaganda as political.
20:32 caroline         wizzyrea: not necessarily (for me propaganda is political, I don't know if that's right), but things like "eating bananas everyday will make you lose 10 pounds!" or "Mount XX is actually a volcano and will erupt in the next 5 years"
20:32 Freddy_Enrique   Uhm, recently yes. Especially for the mayor campaigns
20:31 wizzyrea         you mean propaganda?
20:31 caroline         Do you have a lot of problems with information accuracy (fake news)?
20:30 Freddy_Enrique   I see... now that I think about it, Facebook has impacted South America the way people access information
20:28 caroline         Freddy_Enrique: I was looking for official data, but here in Quebec it says 64% of adults use Facebook, much less than Peru (it's data from 2016 though)
20:27 rangi            caroline: ive updated that page now
20:26 wizzyrea         better than putting out fires I guess
20:26 gmcharlt         cait: awww. yeah, my colleagues mentioned that to me; just tied up keeping fires burning at home, as it were
20:26 cait             was hoping to see you again :)
20:25 cait             gmcharlt: we missed you at kohacon btw
20:25 wizzyrea         cool I've just updated the page.
20:25 gmcharlt         rangi: yep, one of them
20:25 rangi            gmcharlt: are you still admin of the koha facebook thingy?
20:25 rangi            nicole, mj, galen
20:24 caroline         ah! so we have to find someone else
20:24 rangi            there was always more than me
20:24 cait             so someone created another?
20:24 rangi            yeah it lies
20:24 rangi            i deleted it a few years ago
20:24 caroline         rangi it says on https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_on_Social_Networks that you are admin...
20:24 cait             becuase the page still says: that's all we know for now and the wiki page it links to makes it really hard to find
20:23 rangi            caroline: i dont have a facebook account
20:23 cait             ah, i think I was asking if you could link the menu item directly to: https://kohacon2018.bywatersolutions.com/
20:23 wizzyrea         something about kohacon
20:23 Freddy_Enrique   How is it in your countries, do people use it as much as mine?
20:23 caroline         rangi for Facebook, if Freddy_Enrique wanted to manage it, would you give him the credentials? How does it work?
20:23 cait             wizzyrea: sorry, do you know what link it was?
20:20 Freddy_Enrique   I don't know if thats a good sign though
20:20 Freddy_Enrique   Believe or not, Facebook is a platform that 99 of peruvians use
20:20 Freddy_Enrique   I would like it
20:20 ashimema         nighty night #koha
20:20 wizzyrea         (CrispyBran - all of that would need to be done inside your vagrant ssh, if that wasn't clear, unless you're using the shared repo thing)
20:20 * ashimema       needs to call it a night
20:19 caroline         Freddy_Enrique: we are looking for a manager for the Facebook account if you're interested https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Roles_for_19.05
20:19 wizzyrea         👍
20:18 Freddy_Enrique   R.I.P facebook
20:18 Joubu            CrispyBran: ssh keys
20:18 CrispyBran       got it.  Thanks
20:18 wizzyrea         CrispyBran, those links were for you
20:18 wizzyrea         a lot of water under my bridge in the last couple of weeks
20:18 alexbuckley      agreed wizzyrea
20:17 caroline         Fred King did a great one with Avenging chicken
20:17 wizzyrea         cait you sent me a url a while back, but i lost it
20:17 wizzyrea         a blog post on the wesite might be nice
20:17 caroline         I think davidnind took some for the twitter account
20:17 wizzyrea         it's not a place we keep stuff really.
20:17 Freddy_Enrique   Last time I checked, the last publication was on 2016
20:16 Freddy_Enrique   Some photos of the conference and hackfest would be nice on the koha facebook profile
20:16 cait             caroline: we should totally do that!
20:16 wizzyrea         https://gist.github.com/developius/c81f021eb5c5916013dc
20:16 wizzyrea         https://stackoverflow.com/questions/11403407/git-asks-for-username-every-time-i-push OR maybe use keys and git+ssh
20:16 ashimema         or perhaps an elastic search guru
20:16 CrispyBran       in the vars?
20:15 ashimema         and maybe a dbic one..
20:15 ashimema         currently looking at trying to talk a mojo core dev to pop along
20:15 ashimema         I'm investigating getting some outside of koha devs to come along and give some talks at the 'hackfest' bit..
20:15 CrispyBran       I haven't done it before
20:15 wizzyrea         (idk what that is, but I'm sure it can be done)
20:15 caroline         I thought hackfest was like live-developping a new feature with librarian saying what they want and devs coding it
20:14 wizzyrea         CrispyBran, it's probably the same way you'd do it on any linux box
20:14 ashimema         workshops is a nice rename.. I'm game with that.
20:14 Freddy_Enrique   hackfest... At first I thought I was going to see some cool stuff of how to hack someone
20:13 CrispyBran       anyone know if you can store your github credentials in kohadevbox environment?
20:12 wizzyrea         better than hackathon.
20:12 wizzyrea         well hackparty is kind of the intent.
20:12 cait             [off] fest means party in German so I was once asked to explain on my travel request form :)
20:11 rangi            thats my plan for 2020 anyway
20:11 cait             yeah it always requires explanation
20:11 cait             sound good to me
20:11 rangi            cos hackfest scares off non devs
20:11 rangi            3 day workshops
20:11 rangi            1 day social
20:11 cait             hackfest is where we all get together with the laptops and work on different topics in groups
20:11 rangi            3 day of presentations
20:11 rangi            1 conference
20:10 rangi            i want to rename the 2 bits
20:10 cait             and then another 3 days of hackfest
20:10 cait             one day for some sight seeing/cultural event
20:10 cait             Freddy_Enrique: the conference is usually 3 days of conf with presentations
20:10 * Joubu          is wondering what he did in a previous life to have to parse XMLish with regexs...
20:09 cait             we did... :)
20:09 Freddy_Enrique   you guys really meet in person... didn't you....
20:09 cait             :)
20:09 caroline         cait: you can *always* count me in for ice cream (even in winter, if necessary)
20:08 cait             caroline: i was so glad to have you and others joining me for icecream this year :)
20:08 * ashimema       has a slightly higher change of doing NZ in 2020 though this way around he thinks
20:08 * ashimema       liked both locations in this round
20:07 ashimema         lol
20:07 Joubu            btw I am wondering if Dublin would have won without the Guinness tower
20:07 Freddy_Enrique   what is this... hackfest?
20:07 ashimema         don't forget the hackfest that follows it too..
20:07 Freddy_Enrique   O.o? well well... You got my attetion XD
20:07 ashimema         people do it on lots of different budgets... but yeah, depending on where it is it can get expensive just finding a flight
20:06 caroline         (and drink lots of beer, cause apparently, that's what we do at kohacon)
20:06 ashimema         hehe
20:06 * Freddy_Enrique takes out his calculator
20:05 Freddy_Enrique   heh...
20:05 caroline         (and stay, and eat)
20:05 ashimema         but of course.. one has to get there ;)
20:05 ashimema         free to attend
20:05 Freddy_Enrique   sorry, maybe I shouldn't have asked that question
20:04 Freddy_Enrique   uhm.... is it expensive?
20:04 cait             people from lots of different countries are attending, it's really great
20:03 ashimema         it's a fantastic event :)
20:02 caroline         Freddy_Enrique: the presentations are in English, but yes, the participants are international (it's really great!)
20:01 Freddy_Enrique   you all participate even though you are from different contries?
20:00 ashimema         it rotates around the world with different voluntary hosts each time
20:00 ashimema         theres a conference every year Freddy_Entrique
20:00 talljoy          hi koha
20:00 caroline         It's Interleaf technologies, Dublin Business School and PTFS-Europe who are organizing it
19:59 Freddy_Enrique   are you guys arranging it?
19:59 Freddy_Enrique   you are arranging it?
19:58 caroline         Freddy_Enrique: yes
19:58 Freddy_Enrique   2019?
19:58 Freddy_Enrique   KohaCon19 stands for conference right?
19:58 * Freddy_Enrique back from duties
19:43 alexbuckley      hehe hi Joubu
19:42 Joubu            Hi New Zealanders
19:42 alexbuckley      :)
19:42 ashimema         hi alexbuckley
19:42 * ashimema       ducks
19:41 caroline         Hi alexbuckley!
19:41 alexbuckley      hi koha
19:32 * ashimema       can't remember what it was that was going to be added to that server that caused the issue in the first place.. I take it it never came to fruition
19:31 ashimema         rangi++
19:31 ashimema         rangi, you are a star :)
19:31 ashimema         I notice bugzilla momentarily dissapear
19:30 ashimema         I wondered if that was you playing :)
19:30 ashimema         ohhh
19:30 rangi            ashimema: https://splitter.koha-community.org/
19:06 ashimema         Ta for adding kohacon19 to the calendar Joubu
18:56 oleonard         Bye all
18:47 tcohen           mtompset: LOCAL_ANSIBLE=1 is mandatory for bionic
18:47 corilynn         I'll see if I can sign some off tomorrow
18:47 tcohen           mtompset: do you have more info? are you using LOCAL_ANSIBLE?
18:46 tcohen           hi mtompset
18:46 cait             ok, have a good day :)
18:45 cait             https://dashboard.koha-community.org/ - have you seen the dashboard?
18:45 corilynn         k, I'm off to job #2
18:45 cait             190 waiting for testing
18:45 cait             at the moment the queue is still quite long
18:43 corilynn         I'm just hoping I did it right :)
18:43 corilynn         no worries
18:43 cait             makes it hard to calculate for
18:43 cait             corilynn: it depends on people, who has time to look at things etc
18:43 huginn           mtompset: The operation succeeded.
18:43 mtompset         @later tell tcohen I can't get the bionic up. It dies at Gathering Facts.
18:42 mtompset         Are you here, tcohen?
18:42 huginn           mtompset: tcohen was last seen in #koha 3 hours, 15 minutes, and 31 seconds ago: <tcohen> @seen CrispyBran
18:42 mtompset         @seen tcohen
18:41 corilynn         oleonard, but the last one I was supposed to do myself and like three people jumped on it while I was trying to get back to it...
18:41 oleonard         corilynn: Getting a signoff within a day is fairly rare
18:40 * corilynn       extracts some of the whine from that last message
18:40 huginn           Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19263 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, carnold, Needs Signoff , Advanced Editor - Rancor - Add auto control number (001) widget
18:40 corilynn         so, everyone was all excited about signing off on my spaces at the end of the row bug... but poor bug 19263 has seen no such joy :(
18:38 * oleonard       gets a paper route in 1982
18:38 corilynn         oleonard, it doesn't pay
18:36 * oleonard       gets a paper route
18:36 huginn           mtompset: The operation succeeded.
18:36 mtompset         @later tell ashimema refactor attempt not going smoothly for bug 15529. Have fun with it.
18:36 oleonard         Not even a year away!
18:36 caroline         +1!
18:34 Joubu            KohaCon19 added to the Koha calendar ;)
17:22 huginn           News from kohagit: Bug 11897: (follow-up) Add Stock Rotation atomic update schema <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=216a8f1d0301093d7bd90c1a13d10ebd03d23d6b>
17:22 huginn           News from kohagit: Bug 11897: Add mising semi-colon to user*.sql <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=f11cb49a3682221b5e72de03a8627e14d879d1c0>
17:18 Freddy_Enrique   what the....
17:17 * Freddy_Enrique starts thinking about the meaning of conch
17:16 wahanui          i am a political leader
17:16 Freddy_Enrique   wahanui what are you?
17:16 wahanui          i am a conch
17:16 Freddy_Enrique   wahanui who are you?
17:16 Freddy_Enrique   Ill give it a try...
17:15 Freddy_Enrique   jajaja
17:11 caroline         +1
17:11 oleonard         I'm a bot created by the human oleonard to be here while the real oleonard is starting his internet cafe chain
17:11 caroline         oleonard are you a bot?
17:10 oleonard         I'm not the one who doesn't know if he's a bot or not.
17:10 CrispyBran       :)
17:10 CrispyBran       oleonard is crazy today
17:09 wahanui          wish i knew, caroline
17:09 caroline         wahanui are you a conch?
17:08 wahanui          oleonard: no idea
17:08 oleonard         wahanui are you a bot?
17:08 wahanui          i am a political leader
17:08 oleonard         wahanui what are you?
17:08 wahanui          i am a political leader
17:08 oleonard         wahanui who are you?
17:08 wahanui          yes, oleonard?
17:08 oleonard         wahanui?
17:05 wahanui          okay, oleonard.
17:05 oleonard         wahanui is also a conch
17:05 wahanui          okay, oleonard.
17:05 oleonard         wahanui is also a political leader
17:04 caroline         backstreet is also back wahanui
17:03 wahanui          ...but wahanui is back??!!!...
17:03 ashimema         wahanui wahanui is either a political leader or a conch, some people feel there's not much difference right now
17:03 ashimema         Lol
17:01 caroline         you crack me up!
17:00 caroline         XD
17:00 * oleonard       would rather have a conch as a political leader these days
17:00 caroline         Didn't think so
17:00 wahanui          caroline: i haven't a clue
17:00 caroline         wahanui, what are you? a political leader or a conch?
17:00 wahanui          oleonard: what?
17:00 oleonard         wahanui: Never mind.
16:59 wahanui          oleonard: what?
16:59 oleonard         wahanui: list
16:58 cait             http://maoridictionary.co.nz/search?idiom=&phrase=&proverb=&loan=&keywords=wahanui
16:58 cait             maybe it's it
16:57 caroline         ooh mustache!
16:56 oleonard         Not that bots require a gender, but I think wahanui gets he/him because of the man https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wahanui
16:56 ashimema         I can never remember how to talk to wahanui
16:55 caroline         I thought you wanted a man wahanui vs a woman wahanui, was confused
16:55 wahanui          ...but mtompset is about to test and sign off bug 21385. :)...
16:55 oleonard         wahanui: mtompset is not about to test and sign off bug 21385
16:54 * ashimema       wants a 'man wahanui'
16:54 cait             all good
16:54 cait             hm
16:54 wahanui          yes, cait?
16:54 cait             wahanui?
16:54 wahanui          ...but mtompset is about to test and sign off bug 21385. :)...
16:54 wahanui          cait?
16:54 ashimema         wahanui mtompset is on a sign off marathon
16:54 cait             wahanui?
16:54 caroline         aw... I thought he'd remember that and spout it out when we said wahanui?
16:53 ashimema         Hehe
16:53 caroline         wahanui is now a verb
16:53 ashimema         Oh.. I just got wahanui'd
16:52 ashimema         Are you.. thought that one was pushed
16:52 cait             ashimema++
16:51 huginn           Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=21385 major, P2, ---, martin.renvoize, Pushed to Stable , Vendor search: Item count is incorrectly updated on partial receive
16:51 wahanui          mtompset is, like, about to test and sign off bug 21385. :)
16:51 caroline         hey mtompset!
16:51 CrispyBran       hello mtompset
16:51 mtompset         Greetings, Joubu caroline CrispyBran oleonard cait
16:50 * ashimema       passes chicken soup to cait
16:37 CrispyBran       I see how it is.  :)
16:37 * cait           got knocked down by a cold
16:37 cait             :)
16:37 * oleonard       slips some candy under the table to cait
16:36 CrispyBran       :P
16:36 cait             :(
16:36 CrispyBran       no candy for you
16:36 cait             sorry, i've been pretty useless the last few days :(
16:33 CrispyBran       tcohen: kohadevbox seems to be out of space.  I can't bring it up.  Thoughts?
16:31 wahanui          hi, CrispyBran
16:31 CrispyBran       hello
16:31 caroline         hi CrispyBran!
16:30 * CrispyBran     waves
16:22 kidclamp         chugging along
16:21 ashimema         poor kiclamp.. 44 patchsets in his queue to push
16:20 ashimema         ack.. who just did a bunch of SO's... I was so nearly under 50 in the NQA queue.. lol
16:19 ashimema         me is absolutely delighted that particular bug is pushed though :)
16:19 ashimema         lol.. and that's just one bugs worth ;)
16:15 caroline         push all the things!
16:15 huginn           News from kohagit: Bug 11897: Add Stock Rotation atomic update schema. <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=5088e3084dad6c66cb3f3a2e6127e98974dc81b6>
16:15 huginn           News from kohagit: Bug 11897: DBIX::Class::Ordered in Stockrotationstage. <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=d87bffa0911e21def994018977e667e028e0c4aa>
16:15 huginn           News from kohagit: Bug 11897: Add Boolean handling to dbic classes. <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=06e4af6ba8baf412e6adca5ef386255e31f2ead3>
16:15 huginn           News from kohagit: Bug 11897: Stockrotation <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=85be5a81883b9b8d7d071ec39e63021d504a75de>
16:15 huginn           News from kohagit: Bug 15520: (QA follow-up) Fix renaming of circ rules permission <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=63fdde7a9fd627c4692080e5bccd0cfe6d905c29>
16:15 huginn           News from kohagit: Bug 11897: (QA follow-up) Remove rebase leftover <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a21025b7d9c7b2aa09ad6e4851f10c7c41d8d8bd>
16:15 huginn           News from kohagit: Bug 11897: (QA follow-up) Fix tests <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b8d425ac35eca05a5a3217b1678dfccc25aa3c26>
16:15 cait             ah... nice to watch :)
16:15 huginn           News from kohagit: Bug 11897: Use 'stockrotation' permission for the endpoint <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a9248f237d9de916e504d59e6490c7f84e9eb763>
16:15 huginn           News from kohagit: Bug 11897: Add sample notices for all languages <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=2bcaa4004c2a1e06dc02a342d2950ad7df75ada3>
16:15 huginn           News from kohagit: Bug 11897: (QA follow-up) Template filter fixes <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=732ff4b1c6c46dfcd9c71943f62f33a1e6484608>
16:15 huginn           News from kohagit: Bug 11897: 'superlibrarian' has 'stockrotation' perms <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b2ff7223b795f138d74606becc8ccb6b7c1e305d>
16:15 huginn           News from kohagit: Bug 11897: (QA follow-up) Fixes for JS12 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=513aa79a5bf1f3db49288ebaafe372fc8ff7b7ab>
16:15 huginn           News from kohagit: Bug 11897: (QA follow-up) Update of tools-menu.js <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=fac27bc029245aaf08b377ab86c9d23227135014>
16:15 huginn           News from kohagit: Bug 11897: (QA follow-up) Move menu to 'Catalog' <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=f72002d9979771fd9913e5f3c0f89ecb2a4311f4>
16:15 huginn           News from kohagit: Bug 11897: Translatability and wrong escaping fix <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=7ce34d94caf3a0e64eafe0aedbedd5baaa255124>
16:15 huginn           News from kohagit: Bug 15520: DBRev 18.06.00.039 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=8a2c5344d7910d60e0f04ca531e17250753755a7>
16:15 huginn           News from kohagit: Bug 15734: Use To.json to filter audio alerts <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=58314233f70fd9fd2f2830250ff0362e369b6ff1>
16:15 huginn           News from kohagit: Bug 11897: (QA follow-up) Convert atomic update to perl <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=97acf28fef5f95f0e32c4319f7d9781c5522b79b>
16:15 huginn           News from kohagit: Bug 11897: DBRev 18.06.00.040 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=2f2e40ca4674449c598799b1a47d156e50b91fa0>
16:15 huginn           News from kohagit: Bug 7143: (follow-up) remove trailing apostrophe <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=01646f974355f48a97ca61936cf3a787f6077af2>
16:12 caroline         Netflix are very menacing towards proxy users... I'm afraid of them
16:11 caroline         I wish :)
16:10 oleonard         We know you're just trying to watch US Netflix, don't even pretend
16:10 * mtompset       nods.
16:09 caroline         ugh... I hate VPNs that lock me out of my own network...
16:00 mtompset         re: scratch --- my son LOVES scratch. He's on that website creating things all the time.
15:48 ashimema         Lol
15:47 Joubu            ashimema: well, she will then be ready to write a second patch and take a look at C4::Auth
15:44 ashimema         I was thinking of taxing her a little more than that 😉
15:44 oleonard         This is the only Scratch I know: http://pvponline.com/comic/november-3-2004
15:43 huginn           Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18584 trivial, P5 - low, ---, carnold, Pushed to Master , Our legacy code contains trailing-spaces
15:43 Joubu            ashimema: for a simple patch see bug 18584 and koha-howto  ;)
15:28 ashimema         Scratch isn't as viable on Linux since they switched to actionscript though
15:26 huginn           tcohen: CrispyBran was last seen in #koha 18 hours, 2 minutes, and 10 seconds ago: <CrispyBran> corilynn: you need to remove the hash (#) in front of that status when you edit (-e).
15:26 tcohen           @seen CrispyBran
15:24 ashimema         I volunteered at coder dojo for a while though.. my eldest enjoyed that
15:24 ashimema         Our library has a code club.. but my kids aren't old enough to attend (and as far as I can tell are already a bit advanced for the class they would attend when they are)
15:15 corilynn         that's cool. I was a developer before I was a librarian... I guess I'm back to being a developer too
15:14 caroline         *some
15:14 caroline         https://www.codeclubworld.org/projects/ Come libraries have code clubs, but I think librarians don't feel good enough in coding to get into it more
15:14 ashimema         I like scratch
15:13 corilynn         scratch is excellent
15:13 corilynn         "platform"
15:13 corilynn         publishing is hard, tho... you already have to have a following
15:12 ashimema         Cool corilynn
15:12 corilynn         I wrote a "How to code by creating games" book in Scratch and Processing like a million years ago
15:09 ashimema         She's done a bit of html and a fair bit of scratch to date.. no perl though yet..
15:07 ashimema         I was going to try a find a simple patch for my daughter to write as it happens for her a cub scout badge 😉
15:06 ashimema         Lol
15:05 * oleonard       keeps forgetting to start a Koha development sweatshop staffed by his children
15:05 reiveune         bye
15:02 mtompset         I can do that today. Child care duties are more important. :)
15:01 ashimema         Maybe I'll take a look at how hard that might be this evening and add as a follow-up . Currently juggling child care duties 😉
15:00 ashimema         Mmm, I agree
14:58 mtompset         Requiring locking per type and running through the types selected seems like an enhancement.
14:58 mtompset         ashimema, should be allow no lock backward compatibility? That's the real question. If not, then fail for that.
14:56 ashimema         Joubu, I saw your comment on bug 21072.. and agree it's not backport worthy at that complexity.. but I would be willing to to a half measures approach to hide the button in 18.05 if Nick was keen to have something rather than nothing in stable
14:54 ashimema         Before I fail it too hastily
14:54 huginn           Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15529 normal, P5 - low, ---, alexbuckley, Patch doesn't apply , Process Message Queue may send duplicate emails if process is launched twice
14:54 ashimema         Tcohen or Joubu, I wouldn't mind a second opinion on bug 15529 regarding comment 33
14:53 huginn           Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=21072 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Should not show 'Update patron to adult' if no adult patron categories
14:53 Joubu            ashimema: did you see comment my comment on bug 21072?
14:52 ashimema         Indeed.. but as this fix also doesn't support a no locking version for backwards compatibility I think it becomes a regression to not take account of type in the lock
14:50 huginn           Joubu: The operation succeeded.
14:50 Joubu            @later tell josef_moravec Hi Josef! Do not forget to link bug reports, to avoid duplicated work (like 21481 vs 21483). Great work btw, your patches were much more complete than mine :)
14:35 mtompset         and lock each type as you go.
14:35 mtompset         You'd have to purposefully run through "selected types" in a sort of loop.
14:34 mtompset         I would think that is beyond the scope of this bug.
14:33 mtompset         The type isn't part of the locking key, so you can't run simultaneously non-overlapping types.
14:32 mtompset         OOOOH!
14:32 mtompset         Oops... no, it's already in there: type. I'm not sure the problem.
14:31 mtompset         you mean sms, email? That's method.
14:27 ashimema         Comment 33 on the bug
14:26 ashimema         I think there needs a bit more thought around that
14:26 ashimema         I added a comment about the script be able to be called with a message type specified
14:25 mtompset         ashimema, What do you mean the type stuff?
14:23 * ashimema       is now on the school run.. so expect intermittent replies
14:23 ashimema         What about the type stuff.. what do you think about that?
14:14 mtompset         But the comment about ZEBRA_DIR is valid, and it needs a followup for that.
14:13 ashimema         I'll give it another go mtompset
14:13 ashimema         hmm
14:13 ashimema         (to date I've not actually had one 😉 )
14:13 * Freddy_Enrique new was gonna watch bugzilla at some point
14:13 ashimema         but those are rather unlikely.
14:13 ashimema         so.. if a bug is reported against 18.05 for instance.. I first check if it's a bug in master.. if it is I re-assign to master and then once a fix is pushed to master I'll port it back and the waterfall will continue.. if it only applies to 18.05 I'll do a fix just for my branch and let Frido know to check 17.11
14:13 huginn           Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15529 normal, P5 - low, ---, alexbuckley, Patch doesn't apply , Process Message Queue may send duplicate emails if process is launched twice
14:13 mtompset         ashimema, I was able to apply bug 15529 after a git reset --hard and a git pull no issue.
14:11 ashimema         release maintainers also watch bugzilla for version specific bugs Freddy_Enrique
14:11 fridolin         best place in the world
14:11 ashimema         you guys talk fast ;)
14:11 Freddy_Enrique   O.o... holy mustache
14:11 ashimema         just catching up on the reading
14:11 fridolin         its french riviera
14:10 ashimema         here
14:10 fridolin         Freddy_Enrique: i'm in France, next to Montpellier
14:10 mtompset         You here, ashimema?
14:10 Freddy_Enrique   GMT+2... where are you from fridolin
14:10 huginn           mtompset: ashimema was last seen in #koha 17 minutes and 15 seconds ago: <ashimema> hehe.. no worries
14:10 mtompset         @seen ashimema
14:10 mtompset         Greetings, Freddy_Enrique
14:10 Freddy_Enrique   Hi mtompset
14:09 mtompset         Greetings, #koha.
14:08 fridolin         Freddy_Enrique: oh im always there, but i'm in GMT+2
14:08 Freddy_Enrique   roles... aja!
14:08 fridolin         roles are by vote https://wiki.koha-community.org/w/index.php?title=Roles_for_19.05
14:07 Freddy_Enrique   where have you been all my life fridolin, first time I see you..
14:07 fridolin         that is why you see signed-off by of RMamanger, then stable RMaint, then oldstable RMaint
14:06 caroline         So maintainer for stable goes through bugs that are pushed to master and applies them to stable version; maintainer for oldstable goes through bugs pushed to stable and applies them to oldstable; maintainer for oldoldstable goes through bugs pushed to oldstable and applies them to oldoldstable
14:06 fridolin         Freddy_Enrique i'm currently on 17.11 maintaing from patches comming in 18.05
14:06 Joubu            yep, in 99% of the cases
14:05 fridolin         ... and so on
14:05 fridolin         old stable get fixes from stable
14:05 fridolin         but for stable only
14:05 fridolin         caroline: its that
14:04 caroline         correct me if I'm wrong ashimema, Joubu, fridolin
14:04 caroline         Freddy_Enrique: someone is assigned (or assigns themselves) as "maintainer" for a particular version. They go through the bugs that are fixed ("pushed to master") and apply them to the version they are maintaining
14:03 Freddy_Enrique   again, thanks a lot guys
14:03 * Freddy_Enrique feeling inspired, looks for his pencil
14:02 Freddy_Enrique   Joubu: was having problems understanding how the versions are managed, but it is getting clear now
14:02 caroline         *internet
14:01 caroline         oleonard: for your internat cafe, you will definitely need that CD-ROM
14:01 * calire         loved myst, but was terrible at it
14:01 Freddy_Enrique   XD
14:01 * oleonard       pops that old Myst CD-ROM into his Windows 95 Dell.
14:00 Joubu            caroline: I was kidding of course :) At least there is a '5' in common, both are considered as very stable but with security vulnerabilities
14:00 Freddy_Enrique   well, with this new info.. the recomendation is to be up to date
13:59 Freddy_Enrique   the topic of my draft will be...
13:59 Freddy_Enrique   thanks a lot guys btw..  I'll work on it
13:59 Freddy_Enrique   Sorry guys, been in a meeting
13:59 Freddy_Enrique   Joubu++
13:58 caroline         Joubu: hehe! Windows is so widely known it's easy to use it as an example ;) although I apologize for comparing Win 95 to Koha 16.05
13:57 Joubu            caroline: did you compare Windows and Koha? :D
13:55 Joubu            I'd suggest another "Want to help?" section, but that will make it much bigger and complex :)
13:54 Joubu            Freddy_Enrique: What's the title of your graph? What do you want to represent exactly?
13:53 ashimema         hehe.. no worries
13:52 ashimema         just X.05 or X.11
13:52 oleonard         Oh sorry I thought you meant "will be"
13:52 ashimema         unless you're a dev you should never see a X.06 ;)
13:52 ashimema         it only become 18.11 at point of release ;)
13:52 ashimema         development is actually 18.06 oleonard (see the release manager docs on the wiki.. or just look at the version number in the current master 😉 )
13:52 caroline         You can also still work on Windows 95, but Microsoft doesn't support it, so it's like Koha 16.05 for example
13:51 Freddy_Enrique   ashimema++
13:51 Freddy_Enrique   caroline++
13:51 Freddy_Enrique   more clear than water....
13:51 ashimema         when 18.11 is released.. 18.06 will become 18.11 and will be codenames 'stable', 18.05 will become oldstable, 17.11 become 'oldoldstable' and 17.05 will be 'out of maintanence'
13:51 oleonard         development is 18.11
13:51 caroline         but new features are only in Windows 10
13:51 caroline         Freddy_Enrique: It's like Windows. You can still work on Windows 8 (don't know if that's accurate, but just for the example), and Microsoft will still issue patches for bugs on Windows 8
13:50 * Freddy_Enrique taking notes like a maniac
13:50 ashimema         right now oldoldstable is 17.05, oldstable is 17.11 and stable is 18.05 .. (and development is 18.06)
13:50 caroline         Freddy_Enrique: the community maintains 3 versions. So if you have 17.11 on your system for example, you can still get bug fixes, but you won't get new features
13:50 Freddy_Enrique   oh, just found it in the debian installe method
13:49 oleonard         We maintain one or two older versions if we have the volunteers to keep them up to date with bug fixes
13:49 Freddy_Enrique   oldoldstable, that's a new one
13:49 ashimema         they are 'maintained' versions
13:49 ashimema         think of them as 'oldoldstable', 'oldstable' and 'stable'
13:49 oleonard         Freddy_Enrique: Some people prefer to use an older version because it is seen as more stable, fewer bugs
13:49 Freddy_Enrique   Why 2 versions? 17 and 18 separately
13:48 caroline         hehe! sorry, I speak only minimal spanish...
13:48 * Freddy_Enrique doesn't know how to say something in English....
13:48 caroline         Freddy_Enrique: the master is the WIP version. in November, whatever is in the master will become version 18.11 and we'll continue to work on it for the 19,05 version
13:47 Freddy_Enrique   caroline: those dates for the major releases are accurate? I mean...
13:46 caroline         Freddy_Enrique: every month (I think) there are smaller releases to fix bugs, the numbers are YY.MM.01, YY.MM.02, etc. (so right now, I'm not sure which version is the latest, but something like 18.05.04)
13:43 caroline         Freddy_Enrique: about the versions: https://koha-community.org/about/release-schedule/ the community releases two major versions per year, one in May, and one in November they are numbered like this YY.MM (so 18.05 is the May 2018 version)
13:43 * ashimema       will take  a look in a moment
13:42 Freddy_Enrique   I missed that
13:42 Freddy_Enrique   paid support... oh!
13:40 Freddy_Enrique   After this I wanna see the koha versions... 17 , 18... the master. That topic is not clear to me yet
13:40 caroline         Freddy_Enrique++
13:40 oleonard         I don't know what the use case is... Would it be worthwhile to add something about paid support too?
13:40 oleonard         Very nice Freddy_Enrique
13:39 Freddy_Enrique   https://snag.gy/TZmpDI.jpg
13:39 Freddy_Enrique   I finished my first draft, hope is accurate. Tell me your thoughts please
13:37 archie           oh sweet thank you
13:35 caroline         *your
13:35 caroline         If you want to change them through system preferences, in the interface, go to Administration > Global system preferences, search for IntranetUserJS, write you JS in there and save
13:35 oleonard         archie: jQuery is a JavaScript library which is included with Koha and which can be used to apply customizations to Koha by leveraging the opacuserjs and intranetuserjs system preferences.
13:33 archie           where excatly are located the jquerry files?
13:33 archie           wait a second
13:33 Freddy_Enrique   and git for development
13:32 Freddy_Enrique   uhm... I think it is better that package method. It is meant for production
13:31 caroline         I don't know javascript personally, but it seems pretty simple to change the wording on the buttons
13:31 archie           ok does it metter how i installed koha? using git or packages?
13:30 caroline         archie: what oleonard said, which is why it's easier to change the system preference
13:29 archie           i mean, i need some sort of "proof of concept" that we can change stuffin koha before rolling out proposal that we can actually do that
13:29 Freddy_Enrique   I figured...
13:29 oleonard         archie: If your question is, "Where are the HTML templates for Koha's interface" we can answer that, but we always discourage changing them because it makes upgrades very difficult.
13:28 caroline         you can look through here if something is similar to what you need https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/JQuery_Library
13:27 caroline         archie: try the system preference IntranetUserJS
13:27 Freddy_Enrique   ???
13:26 archie           right so story so far. i've installed koha, i have koha. it's on my local machine. i can access both intra and opac... now  wanna see if i can tweak and change internally stuff in koha. for instanc einstead of button "patrons" i wanna change it to "hello there archie"
13:26 oleonard         What's up archie?
13:25 archie           god damn it i'm confused ;D
13:20 caroline         Hi Freddy_Enrique!
13:19 Freddy_Enrique   Greetings Koha :3
13:15 huginn           Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19263 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, carnold, Needs Signoff , Advanced Editor - Rancor - Add auto control number (001) widget
13:15 corilynn         bug 19263 is ready for inspection
13:14 corilynn         never mind, it just needed a reload of the page :)
13:09 corilynn         they do
13:09 Joubu            well, at least the patches apply :)
13:09 corilynn         yes... but there's still a bug
13:09 Joubu            corilynn: seems ok now, right?
13:02 calire           :D
13:02 wahanui          calire: sorry...
13:02 calire           wahanui gets all the love
13:02 oleonard         Hi caroline, calire, and most of all <3 wahanui
13:01 caroline         hi calire!
13:01 calire           hi caroline
13:01 wahanui          hi oleopard
13:01 calire           hi oleonard
13:01 caroline         good morning!
13:00 oleonard         Hi #koha
12:56 magnuse          have fun #koha, see y'all on monday!
12:56 corilynn         I'm about to do git bz attach ... but here's where I think I messed up before
12:56 corilynn         Joubu, I'm all clean, reapplied my update and have a commit message
12:36 archie           oh sweet. thank you!
12:35 Joubu            Archie: it's "borrowers"
12:35 corilynn         k, trying that now
12:35 Joubu            corilynn: if you have a local branch with the correct changes you should definitely obsolete all those on the bug report then resubmit all the one you have locally (git bz attach -e...)
12:32 archie           i created test patron but i can't find it in neither patron_lists. patron_list_patrons nor patronimage
12:31 archie           Hi guys! can anyone tell me what is the name of table for patrons? I'm in the middle of ETL project and started mapping tables
12:31 corilynn         The issue I have is that I'm setting up a new dev box, and I thought I'd test this change this morning and it gave me a merge issue, then I realized whatever I did last night before shutting down is borked
12:30 corilynn         I guarentee I don't.
12:30 Joubu            but I am not sure I understand exactly the issue :)
12:30 corilynn         k
12:29 Joubu            you can obsolete the patches on the bug report, then resubmit the ones you have locally
12:29 corilynn         I def. have all the changes
12:29 corilynn         lets say I do...
12:29 corilynn         ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
12:28 Joubu            so you have a clean branch locally, with all the changes you want to submit?
12:28 corilynn         I think they got flubbed, and they are "easy" changes I can recreate
12:27 corilynn         that's what I mean, I want to kill this patch, plus the one before it
12:27 corilynn         I created it
12:27 Joubu            there is a "var reg001", where does it come from?
12:26 Joubu            the last patch - https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/attachment.cgi?id=80240
12:26 corilynn         looked at https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Resolve_Merge_Issues
12:26 corilynn         can you walk me through that?
12:25 Joubu            you can do everything with git, so yes :)
12:25 ashimema         perhaps
12:25 ashimema         reflog
12:24 corilynn         I want to go back in time? Do you have a delorian?
12:23 Joubu            what did you want to do?
12:21 corilynn         I accidentally ran the commit command twice and now it's got merge issues, and I'm somehow missing a file in there...
12:20 huginn           Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19263 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, carnold, ASSIGNED , Advanced Editor - Rancor - Add auto control number (001) widget
12:20 corilynn         no, Bug 19263
12:19 huginn           Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=21503 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, cbrannon, Needs Signoff , Update AuthorisedValues.pm to fall back to code if description doesn't exist
12:19 Joubu            corilynn: bug 21503?
12:18 huginn           Joubu: The operation succeeded.
12:18 Joubu            @later tell RudyW no warnings on the about page?
12:18 corilynn         Joubu... I need your help again, when you have a moment :( I got tired last night and really messed up the patch
12:18 Joubu            RudyW: no warnings on the about page?
12:18 Joubu            hi there
12:15 tcohen           morning
12:14 theod            or else, you will never realise this inconcistency...
12:10 theod            if the field is indeed hidden, then the cloning of a record should NOT clone this value...
12:07 cait             but usually this field/subfield is hidden i think
12:06 theod            Even worse, if a librarian duplicates a biblio with a value in 942$0, that value will be in the new biblio record (although it should practically be 0)
12:06 cait             sounds about right
12:05 theod            So, since 942$0 is a subfield that can be edited/deleted by a librarian, the output of the sort will be based on the values entered by the librarian UNTIL a checkout of a relevant item is performed and that value is properly updated by the script
12:03 theod            I believe that sorting by popularity is based on the indexed 942$0 values
12:02 theod            The upgrade_totalissues script updates biblioitems.totalissues and (i think) updates the 942$0 too.
12:01 theod            Hello everyone, I have a quick question regarding 942$0, update_totalissues script and sorting by popularity
11:44 ashimema         bit early for tcohen I guess too
11:44 ashimema         blimey.. not seen him in ages!
11:44 huginn           ashimema: drojf was last seen in #koha 9 weeks, 5 days, 2 hours, 34 minutes, and 53 seconds ago: <drojf> and you?
11:44 ashimema         @seen drojf
11:13 ashimema         Mmm, I'll raise it.. think it was a very issue that came up after trying to add something else to the server
10:59 cait             rangi runs it i think
10:40 ashimema         or rather.. it only support http.. so is difficult to get to
10:40 ashimema         it's been down for ages
10:40 ashimema         does no-one use https://splitter.koha-community.org/ anymore :(
10:38 * andreashm      waves
10:09 RudyW            thanks anyway for your ideas
10:08 cait             sorry, out of ideas then too
10:07 RudyW            Showing 20 per page
10:00 cait             also using zebra facets can have negative impact, but not with your size usually
09:59 cait             that slows down things
09:59 cait             have you changed the view per page setting? showing more than 20 per page?
09:53 RudyW            I don't think because when we do direct queries to the Koha MySQL it is super fast!
09:53 cait             hm mysql configuration maybe?
09:52 RudyW            Compared with https://opac-kohademo.equinoxinitiative.org/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?q=math our system seems much slower
09:50 * ashimema       is out of ideas
09:49 RudyW            I have assigne 6GB RAM to the VMHost
09:49 ashimema         that's not a huge catalogue so I doubt zebra is the limiting factor here.. but I could be wrong
09:48 RudyW            on the first tab: PSGI:	Plack (deployment)
09:48 cait             ah sorry wrong tab, the first
09:48 RudyW            We have 35000 books
09:48 ashimema         very very true
09:48 ashimema         indeed
09:48 RudyW            I don't see anything about Plack on the 'System Information' tab
09:48 kidclamp         for both ES and zebra search speed is limited by XSLT too
09:47 ashimema         How large is your catalogue?
09:47 ashimema         search is mostly based on Zebra performance (unless you're running Elastic in which case it's based on Elastic performance)
09:47 cait             does plack show as running on about > system information?
09:46 RudyW            I see in other blogs that Plack takes high CPU load. But I can't even see it on my #top list
09:46 cait             every other page should load much faster with plack
09:46 cait             RudyW: search is not the best to compare
09:45 * cait           waves
09:45 RudyW            I do my standard search for 'Math' which takes 8 secs. No difference
09:44 RudyW            yes I did : sudo koha-plack --enable library && sudo koha-plack --start library and Apache2 restart
09:43 ashimema         and 'How are you measuring performance'
09:43 magnuse          sudo koha-plack --enable <instance> && sudo koha-plack --start <instance>
09:43 magnuse          did you active and start plack?
09:43 RudyW            What could be missing?
09:42 RudyW            Koha About: Koha version:	18.05.04.000  / PSGI:	Plack (deployment)
09:41 RudyW            Any experts for Plack? I did install using the Plack Wiki. But there is no performance difference. I also don't see Plack on the # top  list with %CPU % MEM
09:36 * ashimema       wants oleonard on the qa team as 'ui specialist' and then he could just pass UI related fixes to him as a quick look and pass excersize
08:39 huginn           Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14784 minor, P5 - low, ---, charles.farmer, Failed QA , Missing checkin message for debarred patrons when issuing rules 'fine days = 0'
08:39 tuxayo           Does anyone know which way bug 14784 should be automatically tested? (the logic of the test) That will be my first time writing a test. :)
08:37 huginn           magnuse: The operation succeeded.
08:37 magnuse          @later tell Archie have you tried "koha-remove --purge-all"?
08:37 magnuse          AndrewIsh: yay!
08:25 AndrewIsh        Hi magnuse - don't worry I figured it out. A bad merge of your ILL comments patches was causing me much confusion, but all is clear now :-D
08:24 Archie           coz if i try to use this solution more i see:  stat of /etc/mysql/my.cnf failed: No such file or directory
08:22 Archie           can't i just delete all mentions of instance library with all koha files and fully re-install it?
08:18 magnuse          gah s/be/not be/
08:17 magnuse          hm, the fix from https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/DBMS_auto_increment_fix seems to be working sometimes. anyone else seeing that?
08:15 magnuse          AndrewIsh: i'm here now :-)
08:15 Archie           but the issue appears when i'm trying to reinstall koha-common, i get this DBI connect('database=koha_library;host=localhost;port=3306','koha_library',...) failed: Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2) at /usr/share/perl5/DBIx/Class/Storage/DBI.pm line 1517.
08:14 tuxayo           Hum, does anyone using the packaged version have an idea? ^^"
08:14 Archie           no the file is not there
08:13 tuxayo           Archie: type `ls -l /etc/mysql/koha-common.cnf`
08:12 Archie           or do you mean the koha-common.conf
08:12 Archie           can you help me finding it's actual directory? (i've installed koha via packages)
08:11 tuxayo           Archie: Is the file here? With which permissions?
08:11 Archie           i'm running: sudo koha-remove library and i get this issue mysql: [ERROR] Could not open required defaults file: /etc/mysql/koha-common.cnf
08:10 Archie           hey yall maybe you can help me out a little bit? I'm trying to remove the library instance
08:08 Archie           Hi All
08:03 AndrewIsh        I'll guess at what his answer to my question would have been, it's a bit of a blocker :)
08:02 AndrewIsh        :)
08:02 ashimema         perhaps search filtering has gone whack on my client
08:02 ashimema         interesting.. he wasn't there a moment ago for me
08:02 AnnaBoten        magnuse was last seen in #koha 1 hour, 21 minutes, and 6 seconds ago: <magnuse> \o/
08:02 AndrewIsh        !seen magnuse
08:01 AndrewIsh        Look at the top
08:01 ashimema         I'd leave him a `later` is I were you ;)
08:01 AndrewIsh        He is according to my IRC client
08:01 ashimema         magnuse isn't even online ;)
08:01 AndrewIsh        G'morn ashimema
08:01 ashimema         morning Andrewish
08:01 AndrewIsh        magnuse:  around?
06:47 wahanui          kia ora, reiveune
06:47 reiveune         hello
06:40 magnuse          \o/
06:36 wahanui          hola, alex_a
06:36 alex_a           bonjour
06:01 calire           morning #koha
05:51 fridolin         hi there
04:38 dcook            Anyway, I need to focus on some things. Hope that helps.
04:38 dcook            You probably won't get search results in under a second, but I wouldn't be surprised by 3 seconds instead of 8 seconds.
04:37 dcook            Provided that it works without any errors, you should notice a huge performance improvement
04:37 RudyW            Thank you for your help. I will let you know whether it made a difference. I hope so!
04:36 dcook            Other than that, help with tuning the performance of your instance is beyond what I can provide here
04:36 dcook            Basically, it's creating a web server using the Plack module which allows for a more persistent environment which increases the performance. You'll still have Apache running as a web server as well, but it will proxy requests to the Plack-based web server.
04:34 RudyW            ok, let me try that - I will just take a VM snapshot first
04:33 dcook            On your command line, try "sudo koha-plack --enable library" then "sudo koha-plack --start library"
04:33 dcook            https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Commands_provided_by_the_Debian_packages#koha-plack
04:32 dcook            Ok, well it looks like you're not using Plack, so here's a tip
04:32 RudyW            The upgrade gave some errors - but everything is there what we are having on our current Koha 16.04
04:32 RudyW            Then we deleted the MySQL database and restored from out backup.
04:31 RudyW            we installed Ubuntu 18.04 LTS without GUI - then followed the video exactly
04:29 dcook            RudyW: Did you follow the video exactly?
04:28 dcook            Like a transcript for the video?
04:28 dcook            Do you have a document from this process?
04:25 dcook            In any case, if you followed the steps here, you should have installed with Debian packages, so that's good
04:25 dcook            Not really but thanks for looking :)
04:24 RudyW            Under modules I see Plack::Middleware::ReverseProxy (0.14) -- it that means anything
04:22 dcook            Typically, we expect people to follow the Koha Commmunity wiki, but let's see...
04:21 dcook            Yikes. Ok...
04:18 RudyW            http://mysqltutes.com/wp/index.php/2018/07/04/3-installation-of-koha-18-05-on-ubuntu-18-04-lts/
04:18 RudyW            We used Koha-18.05 on Ubuntu-18.04 TLS
04:16 dcook            Sounds good
04:16 RudyW            Let me just go back to my installation notes
04:15 dcook            Maybe following https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_on_Debian or https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_on_ubuntu_-_packages?
04:15 dcook            Did you install using Debian packages?
04:15 dcook            Sorry don't worry about the modules for now
04:15 dcook            The installation method matters a lot to how we help
04:15 RudyW            ok, let me check the modules
04:14 dcook            Hmm that does sound pretty slow although I've heard of slower.
04:14 dcook            That is, which instructions did you follow?
04:14 RudyW            A search for 'Math' takes 8 secs (returns 1164 results)
04:14 dcook            How did you install Koha?
04:13 dcook            I might not have phrased my question correctly. Plack is a Perl module for using PSGI instead of CGI for communicating between the application and the web server
04:12 RudyW            No, Koha is running on our own server (ESXi 5.5)
04:12 dcook            Actually, now that I've asked that, I'm guessing you probably are. What sort of response times are you getting when browsing the site?
04:11 dcook            RudyW: Do you know if you're using Plack?
04:11 RudyW            But browsing the site is just a bit too slow. I don't understand why. Any parameters we could try to increase the user experience?
04:09 RudyW            Everything is fine and direct access to our 30000 books MySQL database is super fast.
04:08 RudyW            We have installed Koha 18.05 on Ubuntu 18.04 on VMWare with 6GB Ram and high resource allocation.