Time  Nick           Message
00:03 mtompset       YAY! It's signed off now, alexbuckley
03:20 alexbuckley    awesome mtompset
03:54 mtompset       Have a great day (24 hour period), #koha alexbuckley. :)
03:54 alexbuckley    you too mtompet :)
06:11 gveranis       hi koha
06:37 reiveune       hello
06:37 wahanui        que tal, reiveune
06:40 gveranis       just to mention that I test the patch for bug 19687 and it works , on koha 18.05.04
06:40 huginn         Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19687 normal, P3, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , Recent upgrade to bulkmarcimport started to fail
06:48 alex_a         bonjour
07:09 * andreashm    waves
07:10 * cait         waves
07:21 cait           does someone remember the table name for news?
07:22 cait           found it - opac news
07:22 cait           opac_news
08:35 fridolin       hi
08:35 wahanui        what's up, fridolin
08:35 fridolin       nothing new under the sun wahanui
09:04 paxed          FFS. pasting into text fields should be forbidden
09:05 paxed          i just weird error due to tab chars in text fields in the database
09:05 paxed          just love weird errors*
09:06 * andreashm    loves to paste into text fields. =P
09:06 andreashm      *runs and hides*
09:06 paxed          or rather, koha needs better input validation.
09:18 andreashm      that would make sense
09:33 ashimema       too early for oleonard isn't it
09:33 ashimema       cait about?
09:34 ashimema       bug 20554 - doesn't look like the screenshots when applied for me at the moment.. wondering if it's something I've done or not done.. or if it's a rebasing error crept in
09:34 huginn         Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20554 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, claire_gravely, Passed QA , New OPAC CSS
09:43 cait           hm don't knwo and calire is not here this week
09:43 cait           maybe oleonard can help
09:44 ashimema       he rebased it for me yesterday as it didn't apply
09:44 ashimema       i'll try catching him later when he comes online
09:44 cait           did yourun the yarn bulid?
09:44 ashimema       yup
09:44 cait           with the opac flag?
09:44 ashimema       yup
09:44 ashimema       and the display did change.. but it looked really odd.. noth like the screenshots
09:45 ashimema       a bit of a mess in fact
09:45 cait           most likely a rebase issue
09:45 cait           maybe comment on the bug too?
09:45 ashimema       okies
09:45 ashimema       will do
09:47 cait           thx for working on it!
09:47 cait           ashimema++
09:47 ashimema       no worries.. well it's already passed qa.. just not in master yet ;)
09:48 ashimema       I just wanted to show it off a bit to collegues.. I like it :)
09:48 cait           it's an improvement for sure :)
09:50 cait           but we hadn't touched the templates/css in a while now
09:50 ashimema       indeed
09:51 ashimema       I like subtle continual improvement.. to me this fits that bill perfectly.. it's certainly a nice improvement and has sparked interest in further improvements to come :)
10:45 cait           @wunder Konstanz
10:45 huginn         cait: Konstanz, Germany :: Clear :: 61F/16C | Wind Chill: 61F/16C | Thursday: Sunny. High 67F. Winds ENE at 5 to 10 mph. Thursday Night: A clear sky. Low 44F. Winds NNE at 5 to 10 mph.
10:45 * cait         ran out of wool for her current project :(
11:37 marcelr        hi #koha
11:38 josef_moravec1 hi marcelr
11:38 marcelr        thx josef_moravec1++ # QA
11:38 oleonard       Hi #koha
11:39 kidclamp       Hi oleonard
11:39 wahanui        hi oleopard
11:39 marcelr        hi oleonard kidclamp
11:39 josef_moravec1 marcelr: not at all;)
11:40 cait           severine++ # all the different strange behaviours :)
11:41 severine       :D cait
11:45 kidclamp       hi marcelr
11:48 twod           Hi guys!
11:48 cait           hi ere and twod
11:49 cait           ere: i really regret that burger instead of cafe yumm.... still thinking about the edamame bowl
11:49 twod           hi i had a question regarding Koha
11:49 ere            Hi cait!
11:49 cait           just ask, people read here, but sometimes it takes a bit as most are working
11:50 ere            cait: Oh :/ Had I known I would have taken a bowl for you.. I thought the burger might have been a decent option.
11:50 cait           it was good, but not nearly as memorable :)
11:50 twod           i've installed dev koha on ubuntu via git and everything went fine untill the web installation part. I've selected wrong region (i needed Europe but selected for USA) is there any way to "reset" the web installaiton?
11:51 ere            cait: that's probably because the bowl was so yummy
11:51 cait           have you worked with your konsta installation yet?
11:51 cait           konsta= koha
11:51 cait           my fingers have some strange ideas today
11:52 twod           i mean i installed it, now i can connect to my localhost and use it
11:55 cait           yes, but you havend entered any data yet apart from the web isntaller?
11:57 cait           i have a meeting in 4 minutes, but i woudl suggest to drop the database and start over in this case... maybe you could also remove the instance and set it up again
11:57 cait           someone else might be able to help, but dropping the db and recreating it will trigger the web installer again
12:01 twod           no, no i havent, since, for some reason, it started to run super slowly (it might be becouse i selected every single parameter wrong)
12:02 twod           hmm is this a 100% solution?
12:02 twod           i have to stop all proceses, drop database, create new database with the ame name
12:02 twod           ?
12:26 oleonard       twod: Yes, dropping and re-creating the database will allow you to run through the web installer again.
12:26 oleonard       twod: Although I'm not sure what you mean by selecting the wrong region. Do you mean the MARC version?
12:26 twod           yes excatly
12:26 ashimema       oleonard
12:26 wahanui        i think oleonard is seeing some buggy stuff though
12:26 twod           thank  you i will try :)
12:27 ashimema       you poked your head above he parapice ;)
12:27 ashimema       any chance you could take another look at the opac css bug.. i might be applying it wrong.. but it doesn't look right to me for some reason
12:27 oleonard       ashimema: I wondered if you were around... I don't think I'm reproducing your problem with the new opac CSS. It looks like the screenshots to me.
12:28 ashimema       interesting
12:28 ashimema       let me re-apply it now
12:28 ashimema       it should just be.. apply the patch, run the yarn build, refresh the page right?
12:29 oleonard       Yes
12:30 ashimema       i see this when running the yarn build now:   autoprefixer: /home/martin/kohaclone/koha-tmpl/opac-tmpl/bootstrap/css/src/opac.css:1046:3: Gradient has outdated direction syntax. New syntax is like `to left` instead of `right`.
12:30 ashimema       sure I didn't see that earlier
12:30 ashimema       http://mrdev-elastic.koha-ptfs.co.uk/cgi-bin/koha/opac-main.pl#
12:30 oleonard       Yeah you did :)
12:30 ashimema       does that look correct for you?
12:31 oleonard       Definitely not
12:31 ashimema       it's odd
12:31 ashimema       I can't see what I've done wrong
12:32 oleonard       ashimema: That page doesn't even have any of Koha's CSS in the page source
12:32 oleonard       No link to opac.css
12:33 ashimema       without the patch it looks as I expect
12:33 ashimema       oh..
12:33 ashimema       does it need opac.css in a syspref somewher?
12:34 oleonard       I'm not sure if another CSS syspref could make that link disappear?
12:35 ashimema       it's ` OpacAdditionalStylesheet `
12:35 ashimema       it has to contain opac.css
12:36 ashimema       for the patch to work
12:36 oleonard       It shouldn't
12:36 ashimema       I had it removed (it's there by default on install) becuase this is a copy of a customer system to get some good test data ;)
12:37 ashimema       normal bootstrap opac doesn't look bad without opac.css though in that field
12:37 ashimema       yeah.. so have I inadvertantly uncovered a bug ๐Ÿ˜‰ ?
12:38 oleonard       ashimema: I simply don't understand how to reproduce the problem you're seeing.
12:39 oleonard       I have nothing in  OpacAdditionalStylesheet and it works correctly.
12:39 ashimema       try blanking the ` OpacAdditionalStylesheet ` systempref and then refreshing
12:39 ashimema       really
12:39 ashimema       thats odd
12:41 oleonard       Ah wait...
12:41 oleonard       I had opac.css in  opaclayoutstylesheet
12:41 oleonard       ...which shouldn't be required according to the system pref description
12:42 oleonard       ...although it looks like it's a default
12:42 ashimema       interesting.
12:42 ashimema       I didnt blank that one deliberately either..
12:42 ashimema       hmm
12:45 matts          hey cait, I just ran a standard Coral installer and had no problems at all. :\
13:03 twod           ok so i removed the database
13:04 twod           and added it again via mysql. then i restarted apache server and when i go to localohost everything is at was before (no web install)
13:06 oleonard       twod: You might need to restart plack and memcached too
13:06 oleonard       sudo service memcached restart
13:07 tcohen         morning
13:07 marcelr        hi tcohen
13:07 twod           YAY. so i restarted apache/memcashe/mysql an looks like it works
13:07 twod           thank you oleonard! ;)
13:08 caroline       Hello everyone!
13:09 oleonard       Good morning caroline
13:09 ashimema       hi guys and gals
13:09 cait           matts: typical - which OS?
13:09 oleonard       twod: Are you testing Koha for use? For development?
13:09 twod           for development
13:11 oleonard       Cool
13:12 cait           twod: about the marc flavour - that's nt strictly european vs. US
13:12 cait           you might want to check what libraries are use in your country
13:12 cait           are using...
13:12 cait           where are you from?
13:13 cait           and back from the meeting :)
13:13 cait           caroline: hi! we also talked about your serials pattern page :)
13:13 caroline       cait: what about it?
13:14 twod           I'm from Latvia
13:14 twod           i'm not sure what marc we are using here, this all is fairly new to me ;D
13:15 cait           we just had our koha meeting and someone was asking for pattern examples/collection :)
13:15 cait           hm
13:15 caroline       Cool!
13:15 caroline       Hopefully, with Mana, it will help a lot
13:15 cait           twod: maybe check what the national library does
13:16 cait           more libraries are using marc21 than unimarc in my experience
13:17 cait           there have been dialects like normarc in norway, but it#s closer to marc21 than unimarc
13:17 cait           with unimarc afaik mostly used in france and maybe spain
13:17 * oleonard     's random Latvian library Google search leads me to believe MARC21
13:17 cait           same here
13:18 cait           http://dom.lndb.lv/data/obj/file/304145.pdf and RDA
13:18 cait           example slook like MARC21 too
13:18 * caroline     's search for "cats" in latvia's national library catalogue returns canadian content :D
13:18 cait           heh
13:19 caroline       Looks like MARC21 https://kopkatalogs.lv/F/GDT9QI23KN6XKT6GKGJXFK8JB6GYKYUQPSU9RETAS9687MQ5C8-04268?func=full-set-set&set_number=016659&set_entry=000001&format=001
13:19 oleonard       ๐Ÿ˜บ
13:20 cait           I've added some notes to the 2020 proposal page btw - hope it's ok https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/KohaCon20_Proposals
13:20 cait           just to avoid further problems
13:20 caroline       +1
13:20 oleonard       cait++
13:21 cait           twod: the #koha librarian hive mind says marc21 ;)
13:22 twod           oh sweet :D
13:22 twod           thank you
13:23 oleonard       Do you work for a library twod, if you don't mind me asking?
13:23 twod           nope
13:24 twod           just a project manager for a private company
13:27 tuxayo         twod: yay! more people working partly at least in installing/supporting Koha :D
13:27 twod           another question. does the DEV koha supposed to be ... how should i say... CSS-less?
13:28 kohaputti      twod, your installation is plain html? Maybe you got apache config wrong?
13:31 twod           oh don't even start me on the god damn apachi! The configuration of 2.4 was some sort of nightmare
13:31 oleonard       I wonder if we're missing steps in the instructions for doing a git installation
13:33 tuxayo         twod: ouch, that sound like painfull memories ><
13:33 tuxayo         You used the conf that comes with Koha right?
13:33 twod           yes i got them from git as it is in koha community instruction
13:33 tuxayo         Isn't 2.6 easier to configure?
13:36 oleonard       twod: I highly recommend kohadevbox https://gitlab.com/koha-community/kohadevbox
13:40 cait           seconds that
13:41 matts          cait, Ubuntu 16.04.5 LTS, 10.0.36-MariaDB, PHP 7.0.32-0ubuntu0.16.04.1, Apache/2.4.18
13:41 cait           twod: you might see bug 12904
13:41 huginn         Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12904 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, RESOLVED FIXED, Force browser to load new JavaScript and CSS files after upgrade
13:42 cait           you shoudl have something like that in your apache conf file:
13:42 cait           RewriteRule ^(.*)_[0-9][0-9]\.[0-9][0-9][0-9][0-9][0-9][0-9][0-9].js$ $1.js [L] RewriteRule ^(.*)_[0-9][0-9]\.[0-9][0-9][0-9][0-9][0-9][0-9][0-9].css$ $1.css [L]
13:42 tuxayo         yep, if this isn't a production instance then KohaDevBox++ twod
13:42 cait           but yeah, kohadevbox would totally avoid these issues and comes with all our shiny tools set up
13:42 twod           :D well where were you guys week ago
13:43 cait           hereรŸ
13:43 cait           ?
13:45 * cait         is always here.. almost .)
13:45 caroline       cait is here almost 24 hours a day hehe!
13:46 cait           *hides*
13:47 ashimema       cait is indeed the personified heart and soul of Koha
13:47 caroline       cait++
13:47 ashimema       koha even... it's not meant to be capitalised silly mobile auto-complete
13:48 twod           ye my mistake of not coming here faster
14:03 oleonard       Every little thing I do with Bug 20935 seems to lead to more trouble...
14:03 huginn         Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20935 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Redesign system preferences interface
14:04 oleonard       oleonard is seeing some buggy stuff though
14:04 wahanui        i already had it that way, oleonard.
14:04 oleonard       ๐Ÿ‘
14:06 oleonard       Nice to have you back wahanui
14:07 oleonard       wahanui botsnack poutine
14:07 wahanui        :)
14:12 Freddy_Enrique wahanui is back??!!!
14:12 Freddy_Enrique Gotta be carful
14:12 Freddy_Enrique careful*
14:13 Freddy_Enrique Good morning oleonard
14:32 fridolin       New easy bug 21487
14:32 huginn         Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=21487 minor, P5 - low, ---, fridolin.somers, Needs Signoff , Disable CataloguingLog syspref in UNIMARC_sync_date_created_with_marc_biblio.pl
14:42 * ashimema     wishes he lived in a world where train WiFi was reliable enough to work from
14:46 alex_a         In france, wifi is reliable. But not train...
14:47 tuxayo         ashimema: In france it's decent enough so that my coleagues can often work in trains. So there is hope! :)
14:47 ashimema       Haha
14:47 ashimema       Perhaps I'll try it in my next trip to Marseille
14:47 * oleonard     wishes he lived in a world with trains
14:47 tuxayo         :D
14:48 alex_a         Because wifi is never on strike
14:48 ashimema       It wasn't great last time and I did that by train
15:07 oleonard       davidnind around?
15:08 davidnind      i am
15:09 cait           oleonard: i want poutine too!
15:09 caroline       Is bug 11285 the ongoing bug for vocabulary translation problems?
15:09 huginn         Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11285 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Vocabulary disambiguation
15:10 cait           kind of
15:10 cait           i'd make new separate linked bugs if you want to patch something
15:10 oleonard       davidnind: Bug 21479 shouldn't get both patches applied
15:10 huginn         Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=21479 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Removing from cart removes 2 items
15:10 caroline       Ok
15:12 oleonard       davidnind: It's either one or the other, so you have to use the "interactive" option when applying
15:14 davidnind      oleonard: still new to applying patches, what is the right way to apply? (using koha-testing-docker)
15:14 oleonard       You are using git-bz on the command line?
15:15 davidnind      oleonard: sorry, didn't look before hitting the enter button!  Will try interactive option now..
15:16 oleonard       Add a # at the start of the line of the patch you don't want to apply
15:17 * caroline     is taking notes
15:19 davidnind      so for this one I only want 79903 to apply?
15:20 oleonard       If you want to test my patch, yes :)
15:24 davidnind      the patch fails :-(
15:26 reiveune       bye
15:27 oleonard       davidnind: Are you sure your branch is "clean?" You might want to do 'git reset --hard origin' to make sure.
15:27 oleonard       Or check out a new branch based on master
15:28 oleonard       Sometimes a failed patch will leave garbage behind and make it impossible to try again.
15:29 davidnind      I'm sure it's probably something I've done - master is up-to-date, will create a branch for the bug and try again.. Will try the hard reset as well..
15:32 davidnind      yeah, patch now applied, now to test...
15:33 oleonard       davidnind++
15:34 * ashimema     loves the community for this example of helpful chatter.. so good to see how people always help each other out
15:35 caroline       #koha++
15:41 davidnind      oleonard: looks good, the number of items in the cart are correct and everything behaves as it should!
15:43 oleonard       Great
15:44 caroline       So for vocabulary disambiguation, is the solution to change the English words? Or is there a way in the templates to mark them as different?
15:47 cait           right now... you can only change the words
15:47 cait           like add a word
15:47 cait           cancel hold (instead of just cancel)
15:47 cait           or something like that
15:47 cait           there are patches from julian around waiting for qa that promise something like 'context' but I don't understand yet how this will work
15:48 cait           and it's been hard to find someone to qa....
15:48 caroline       So I have to change the words in the .tt
15:48 caroline       ?
15:49 caroline       Is there somewhere else this will be affected? (I don't want to break everything)
15:49 caroline       Bug 21490
15:49 huginn         Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=21490 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Disambiguation of "Order"
15:56 davidnind      oleonard: so to sign off it is 1) git so 1 and 2) git bz attach -e 21479 HEAD  ? (just want to make sure I do it right, last time Fridolin was showing me what to do!)
15:56 oleonard       Correct
16:06 corilynn       oleonard qq about kohadevbox
16:07 oleonard       I'm not an expert, just a fan, but go ahead
16:07 corilynn       i encountered an error (DBD::mysql::st execute failed: Cannot delete or update a parent row: a foreign key constraint fails at /usr/share/perl5/DBIx/RunSQL.pm line 273.) thinking it was an issue with my quirky install i did a vagrant destroy / up
16:08 corilynn       but I'm now right back at the same error
16:08 corilynn       have you seen this?
16:08 oleonard       At what stage in the process did you see that?
16:08 corilynn       when i do a destroy, everying is gone, right?
16:09 corilynn       after install I got to http://localhost:8081/ and do all the steps through the interface
16:09 corilynn       this worked fine on monday...
16:10 oleonard       corilynn: So the web installer works, but you get the error when you try to log in to the staff interface?
16:11 corilynn       word
16:11 corilynn       well, i'm walking through the web interface, right?
16:11 corilynn       http://localhost:8081/cgi-bin/koha/installer/install.pl
16:13 oleonard       If you're starting with an empty database, you could try dropping it, recreating it, and doing the restart_all command.
16:14 oleonard       Then try the web installer again.
16:14 corilynn       I *think* I'm starting with an empty database... isn't it empty if I do a "vagrant destroy" ?
16:15 oleonard       Yes
16:15 corilynn       then something b broken...?
16:15 corilynn       anyone done a fresh kohadevbox lately?
16:15 oleonard       ...assuming you haven't configured it to use a remote database I suppose...
16:15 corilynn       I don't even have a remote database for it to use
16:20 corilynn       hm... so I went to http://localhost:8081/cgi-bin/koha/installer/install.pl again and it seems to be going along its merry way *shrug*
16:21 cait           bye all!
16:32 davidnind      oleonard: bug 21479 now signed off (that took a while, had a problem with my so alias in global git config which caused an error - now fixed!), hope I did that right!
16:32 huginn         Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=21479 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Removing from cart removes 2 items
16:40 oleonard       Testing Bug 17047 requires an authentication token? From where?
16:40 huginn         Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17047 new feature, P5 - low, ---, alex.arnaud, Needs Signoff , Mana Knowledge Base : share data
17:50 kidclamp       is it via the syspref ManaToken oleonard?
17:51 oleonard       kidclamp: reading in the test plan, "To get an Authentication token, you have to fill a form and validate your e-mail address"
17:52 kidclamp       step 4  Search the syspref ManaToken and follow the instructions
17:52 oleonard       Oh okay, I didn't read ahead because I thought I was stymied before I started.
17:53 kidclamp       always read to the end - or you get a crumpled sheet of paper wuth lots of erasing
17:53 kidclamp       (if anyone else had that ditto in shcool)
17:54 oleonard       Yeah but I'm still mad about that exercise so I refuse to obey
18:06 oleonard       (that's why a hush falls over the saloon when I saunter in)
18:49 oleonard       Hi cait and alexbuckley
18:49 * cait         waves
20:00 cait           Margaret_++
20:00 cait           Margaret++ too
20:00 cait           bug 21351
20:00 huginn         Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=21351 minor, P5 - low, ---, margaret, Needs Signoff , Traditional Chinese Language pack should have file name "zh-Hant-TW" not "zh-Hans-TW"
20:01 bag            heya cait
20:01 Margaret_      thanks cait, you have no idea how protracted a process that was.
20:01 cait           pro...?
20:01 Margaret_      long and stretched out process
20:01 rangi          if you sign off ill qa cait
20:02 cait           ... which is what i just asked him in pm lol
20:02 rangi          hehe
20:02 cait           just finishing reading bug mail first
20:09 cait           @later tell khall can you please check sandboxes? It seems to happen often that it adds 2 sign-off lines (bug 21082 for an example)
20:09 huginn         cait: The operation succeeded.
20:12 kidclamp       have a nice night y'all
20:17 cait           night kidclamp!
20:47 caroline       bye #koha!