Time Nick Message 01:44 mtompset @seen Joubu 01:44 huginn mtompset: Joubu was last seen in #koha 4 hours, 30 minutes, and 28 seconds ago: <Joubu> (I have to leave sooner than expected, sorry! See you tomorrow) 01:44 mtompset Oh sucky. 01:45 mtompset Anyone familiar with the opac cart delete one, but two get removed? 01:50 mtompset OOOOOOH! Found it. 02:39 davidnind I couldn't replicate it using the koha-testing-docker - this was against master. I think caroline could (see the IRC log for today). I also tried it on Catalyst's demo, and things worked as expected. Unless I'm missing something.... 02:58 mtompset davidnind, replicate what? 02:59 mtompset It's the remove link that appears in the search results after you click the add cart in the search results. -- If you are talking about the bug I was referencing. 03:01 davidnind That's the one - I had just worked it out when your message came through. 03:04 mtompset I signed it off. :) 03:05 mtompset Have to remember to force the scripts/CSS reload too. :) 03:06 davidnind Excellent! mtompset++ 03:25 mtompset ARG! Why do downloads have to be so slow? I wish I had a T1 line. 03:25 mtompset How do I find someone who wants to give me a T1 for free? :) 03:43 mtompset @seen dcook 03:43 huginn mtompset: dcook was last seen in #koha 17 hours, 22 minutes, and 28 seconds ago: <dcook> Ok actually leaving. Night everyone! 03:44 mtompset @later tell dcook Ever since I moved my work laptop to Ubuntu, I haven't used the Windows 10 setup. So slow to update to test this problem. :) 03:44 huginn mtompset: The operation succeeded. 06:21 paxed i guess bug 11175 isn't going anywhere 06:21 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11175 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, pasi.kallinen, Failed QA , Show the parent record's component parts in the detailed views 06:22 ashimema @later tell caroline that release maintanence page on the wiki is really written for the release maintainers. I'd be happy to write a normal person summary of the dev process... Perhaps a diagram could speak a thousand words 06:22 huginn ashimema: The operation succeeded. 06:29 matts hi 06:34 reiveune hello 06:57 alex_a bonjour 06:59 tuxayo o/ #koha 06:59 tuxayo hi alex_a :) 07:36 ashimema Mornin' #koha 07:49 tuxayo o/ ashimema 07:52 josef_moravec hi #koha 09:16 cait good morning #koha 09:17 m23 #koha aloha 09:43 ashimema jenkins inbound 09:43 cait :) 09:55 Guest1662 Project Koha_18.05_U18 build #71: UNSTABLE in 28 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_18.05_U18/71/ 09:55 ashimema poop 09:56 Guest1662 Project Koha_18.05_D8 build #71: FAILURE in 51 sec: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_18.05_D8/71/ 10:03 ashimema hmm 10:04 ashimema ooh.. Jenkins needs some maintanence.. don't think it was me who broked it :) 10:04 ashimema @later tell tcohen could you take a look at Jenkins pretty please.. he looks upset about junit 10:04 huginn ashimema: The operation succeeded. 10:08 Guest1662 Project Koha_18.05_D9 build #71: SUCCESS in 39 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_18.05_D9/71/ 10:09 Joubu ashimema: Resolving gitlab.com (gitlab.com)... failed: Temporary failure in name resolution. 10:09 Joubu this is the relevant error I think 10:09 ashimema :) 10:09 ashimema ta Joubu 10:10 ashimema bit early for you isn't it? 10:10 Joubu yes 10:10 ashimema there is also a junit warning I think.. so still requires a little attention 10:14 Joubu ashimema: the tests did not run, so no output and so junit failed. I do not think it fails when the tests success 10:16 Joubu @later tell davidnind I have never used Robot Framework and did not know Screen capture library, but basically I was suggesting exactly the same, the syntax would be the same (did you re-read the email I sent about that few months ago?) 10:16 huginn Joubu: The operation succeeded. 10:17 Joubu @later tell davidnind What is "screen capture library" btw? I have found https://github.com/diederickh/screen_capture but it says "This repository contains a cross platform Screen Capture Library currently in development. The API is likely to change in the near future when more drivers (Windows / Linux) will be added. This is experimental code." 10:17 huginn Joubu: The operation succeeded. 10:17 Joubu @later tell davidnind 4y ago! 10:17 huginn Joubu: The operation succeeded. 10:21 Guest1662 Project Koha_18.05_U18 build #72: STILL UNSTABLE in 25 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_18.05_U18/72/ 10:22 Joubu @later tell nevermind I guess you were refering to the screen capture provided by Selenium 10:22 huginn Joubu: The operation succeeded. 10:24 cait kidclamp: ping? 10:27 Joubu Bug 21479 # Please comment on that one, we need people to test on sandbox/demo 10:27 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=21479 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Removing from cart removes 2 items 10:27 Joubu davidnind reported he did not recreate the issue, if the problem does not exist for everybody we will need to understand why 10:43 Guest1662 Project Koha_18.05_D8 build #72: NOW UNSTABLE in 34 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_18.05_D8/72/ 11:02 kidclamp cait: poing 11:02 kidclamp brb 11:02 * ashimema is confused.. 11:06 kidclamp morning, had to restart 11:08 ashimema hola 11:19 marcelr hi #koha 11:19 josef_moravec hi marcelr 11:20 marcelr o/ 11:20 tuxayo hi MDR :) 11:20 * cait waves 11:21 marcelr tuxayo: what are you doing :) 11:23 tuxayo marcelr: I'm not sure I understand well the question, anyway, I'll try to answer. I'm trying to detect remain of bug 23928 to avoid having item without type being generated. 11:23 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=23928 could not be retrieved: InvalidBugId 11:23 tuxayo cait : https://github.com/opacapp/opacclient/issues/101#issuecomment-425421264 11:23 tuxayo «As Koha is becoming more popular in Germany[...]» 11:23 tuxayo Is this your doing? ;) 11:24 cait actually not 11:24 cait LMSCloud is another support company 11:24 cait [off] running on a fork 11:25 cait mostly supporting public libraries 11:25 tuxayo cait: some of it could still have been your doing ;) 11:25 tuxayo [off] ho :( 11:25 cait [off] it's alright, just wish some of it would end up here :) 11:25 marcelr tuxayo: lol, sure you didnt 11:26 tuxayo ^^" 11:27 ashimema [off] mmm, indeed. Would be good to see some submissions 11:28 paxed we have our own fork... and try to push changes, but it's not easy enough. 11:38 kidclamp cait++ 11:40 cait kidclamp++ 12:00 oleonard Firefox Extended Support Release is now on the "Quantum" track, so goodbye legacy addons :( 12:00 oleonard ...FYI in case any of your libraries use the JS Print Setup addon :( :( 12:01 cait ouch 12:11 tuxayo paxed: Thanks for trying :) 12:11 tuxayo Also, you (and maybe others) might be interested in https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/IRC_Regulars 12:11 tuxayo It helps getting basic context of people that come from time to time here. 12:28 m23 oleonard: creator of JSPrint works on API extension that can solve problem in Quantum https://github.com/edabg/web-ext-experiment-printservice 12:42 tuxayo Does anyone know if it's valid to have a subscription with an itemtype to null or empty string? 12:42 tuxayo With the syspref item-level_itypes set to 1. 12:42 tuxayo We would end up with invalid items right? 12:45 tuxayo The context is trying to find and clean invalid data left by bug 20461 12:45 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20461 normal, P5 - low, ---, victor.grousset, Pushed to Stable , New subscription form: "Item type" and "item type for older issues" fields are ignored 12:50 mtompset Greetings, #koha 12:50 mtompset @seen tcohen 12:50 huginn mtompset: tcohen was last seen in #koha 19 hours, 19 minutes, and 8 seconds ago: <tcohen> ah, maybe syslog knows about the problem 13:03 matts Anyone interested in Koha <-> Coral integration, there's a PR that would love to be tested right here: https://github.com/coral-erm/coral/pull/495 :) 13:05 cait we need to get my coral running first ;) 13:05 matts cait, told you, it will be done at the end of the hackfest (in Marseille) ! 13:05 matts cait, more seriously, I have to make a fresh install to see what's wrong with the installer. Not done yet. 13:05 mtompset What cait said. The problem with a lot of authentication mechanisms is people don't give the cut-and-paste steps for a default kohadevbox. 13:06 cait well, not quite what i said 13:06 matts mtompset, hmm, are kohadevboxes reachable from the outside ? 13:07 cait that was an insider as matts tried to fix my coral in portland 13:07 cait maybe we could set up coral inside the devbox? 13:07 caroline good morning! 13:07 mtompset cait, "get my coral running" is "how do I install X to test Y" in my mind. 13:08 cait good morning caroline :) 13:08 mtompset matts, the kohadevbox has a different IP than the host machine. 13:08 matts mtompset, hmm, I use lxd containers, one for Koha, one for Coral, and I can make them communicate, but I'm not sure about kohadevbox. 13:09 mtompset Can't you run lxd containers inside a VM? 13:10 mtompset That's what kohadevbox is. 13:10 mtompset So, you'd have a Coral lxd container running on the Kohadevbox, and communication between the two. 13:10 matts makes sense. 13:10 mtompset (at least conceptually, that's what I figure) 13:12 tcohen hola mtompset 13:14 tcohen ashimema: did you kill the jenkins tasks? what am I looking at? 13:17 Joubu tcohen: I did the upgrade 13:17 tcohen what upgrade? 13:17 tcohen :-D 13:18 ashimema Joubu fixed it tcohen 13:18 ashimema sorry.. I meant to give you a second later 13:18 tcohen ah. thanks Joubu :_D 13:18 * ashimema is in meetings now.. but needs ot look at the failing tests.. 13:24 mtompset Greetings, tcohen 13:25 mtompset That kohadevbox issue is a doozy. 13:25 mtompset I'm trying some tinkering to address it. 13:31 mtompset Haven't had any success. But then again, I don't know ansible, so I'm probably doing something wrong. :) 13:33 tcohen mtompset: thanks for trying I'll take a look 13:33 tcohen we should move to stretch anyway, leaving jessie for people doing stuffs with older Koha code 13:36 oleonard tcohen: Making stretch the default in kohadevbox? 13:44 fridolin ashimema: hi 13:45 fridolin as a UK, how do you start a letter ? 13:45 fridolin ashimema: in france we say "Madame, Monsieur" 13:45 fridolin but in good engish ? 13:48 caroline fridolin he said he was in a meeting 13:48 caroline you can look at http://www.myenglishlanguage.com/linguistics-language-guide/letter-writing/ maybe? 13:48 fridolin ok no pb 13:48 caroline I think it's Dear Sir/Madam 13:48 fridolin clrh: ^ 13:49 ashimema what caroline said 13:53 Joubu tuxayo: yes it is valid, on the UI the select in not mandatory 13:54 tcohen oleonard: I think we need to do that already 13:55 tcohen even if this jessie bug didn't show up 13:59 marcelr tcohen: following debian lts ? 14:00 marcelr i should move to stretch, yes 14:00 tcohen marcelr: mostly have everyone test on current debian 14:01 marcelr there will be lots of koha systems still on jessie (or even lower) 14:01 marcelr and patches get backported etc. 14:02 marcelr but i agree ! 14:04 mtompset tcohen, do we need the wheezy and trusty bits still? 14:10 Freddy_Enrique Greetings :) 14:10 caroline Hi Freddy_Enrique! 14:10 alex_a hello Freddy_Enrique 14:14 tcohen mtompset: I'm sure we don't 14:27 Joubu tuxayo: sru is only to request zebra, they will not have access to other info 14:27 Joubu and we still do not have a z3950 server for ES 14:41 clrh Joubu: (hello) do you mean an RPN2ES ? 14:43 marcelr which we definitely need 14:43 Joubu Salut clrh, yes that's what I mean 14:43 Joubu marcelr: which is almost written already... code is 6y old :) 14:43 marcelr weren't you writing it, Joubu ? 14:44 marcelr can you add sru ? 14:44 marcelr Joubu: does elastic refer to the length of the project ? 14:47 Joubu I do not understand what you mean 14:47 marcelr np just ignore it :) 14:50 tuxayo Thanks Joubu :) 16:50 tcohen @wunder cordoba, argentina 16:50 huginn tcohen: Cordoba, Argentina :: Clear :: 44F/7C | Wednesday: Partly cloudy. High near 75F. Winds ENE at 10 to 15 mph. Wednesday Night: Clear to partly cloudy. Low 48F. Winds N at 5 to 10 mph. 16:51 tcohen next meeting? 16:51 oleonard In a little over three hours according to the calendar. 16:56 tcohen thanks oleonard 17:04 reiveune bye 17:24 ashimema Meeting? 17:25 caroline in 2.5 hours 17:27 ashimema Haha,ta 17:27 mtompset @seen alex_buckley 17:27 huginn mtompset: I have not seen alex_buckley. 17:27 ashimema I'll be having tea with everyone.. want to dip in to see the kohacon result though. 17:28 mtompset @seen barton 17:28 huginn mtompset: barton was last seen in #koha 1 week, 6 days, 2 hours, 51 minutes, and 23 seconds ago: <barton> Joubu: you're right about sharing the imported file. 17:28 mtompset @seen cait 17:28 huginn mtompset: cait was last seen in #koha 4 hours, 20 minutes, and 23 seconds ago: <cait> good morning caroline :) 17:28 mtompset Are you here, cait? 17:29 mtompset @seen alexbuckley 17:29 huginn mtompset: alexbuckley was last seen in #koha 2 days, 20 hours, 39 minutes, and 19 seconds ago: <alexbuckley> good night cait 17:29 mtompset @later tell alexbuckley Please checkout bug 15529. I'm pretty sure you'll be happy with my patch. 17:29 huginn mtompset: The operation succeeded. 17:30 mtompset @later tell barton Greetings. You're listed as interested in bug 15529. Perhaps a sign off? 17:30 huginn mtompset: The operation succeeded. 17:30 mtompset @later tell cait Greetings. You're listed as interesting in bug 15529. Perhaps a sign off? 17:30 huginn mtompset: The operation succeeded. 17:31 mtompset @seen wizzyrea 17:31 huginn mtompset: wizzyrea was last seen in #koha 1 week, 1 day, 14 hours, 42 minutes, and 13 seconds ago: <wizzyrea> @later tell CrispyBran just later me with whatever you need ;) I think I know what it is. 17:31 mtompset @later tell wizzyrea Greetings. You're listed as interested in bug 15529. Perhaps a sign off? 17:31 huginn mtompset: The operation succeeded. 17:32 mtompset @later tell cait interested. DOH! Hate typos. :) 17:32 huginn mtompset: The operation succeeded. 17:32 caroline cait is also interesting :) 17:45 mtompset caroline, yes, but that isn't what I meant. :) 17:46 mtompset I was noting she is listed on the users email list of the bug, and so perhaps she'd want to sign off bug 15529 17:46 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15529 normal, P5 - low, ---, alexbuckley, Needs Signoff , Process Message Queue may send duplicate emails if process is launched twice 17:47 mtompset You could always attempt a sign off too, if you'd like caroline. :) 17:47 caroline If it's not too complicated, I can try 17:47 oleonard Oh are you looking for a signoff on Bug 15529? How could we have known?! ;) 17:48 caroline lol!! 19:06 * andreashm waves 19:27 mtompset Have a great day, #koha. 19:27 mtompset @later tell oleonard Yes. :P 19:27 huginn mtompset: The operation succeeded. 19:28 tcohen hi 19:29 rangi morning 19:30 caroline good morning rangi! 19:30 caroline hi tcohen! 19:32 tcohen hi caroline! 19:32 rangi caroline: http://git.koha-community.org/stats/kohadocs/tags.html 19:33 * cait waves 19:33 rangi (its not showing the stuff for 18.11 yet, i think we will beat our 231 for 18.05 for it) 19:33 rangi hi cait 19:34 caroline above average! +1! 19:34 cait hm? commits? 19:34 rangi yep 19:34 caroline yes for the manual. the average is 194.46 commit per version 19:35 caroline for 18,05 we were at 231! 19:35 caroline I don't know how many so far for 18.11 19:35 rangi it feels like more to me 19:36 caroline You're the one merging them, so I'm sure you have a better idea 19:37 rangi just merged another right now ;) 19:37 cait glad to see a plan work out ;) 19:37 alexbuckley hi all 19:37 caroline hi alexbuckley! 19:38 caroline ppl are converging on IRC for the meeting it seems! 19:39 cait hm isn't it in 1.5 hours? 19:39 andreashm 20 min? 19:39 cait oh 19:39 tcohen in 21 min 19:39 cait i got the time wrong then 19:39 tcohen cait: allow timeconvert to access your location 19:39 tcohen :-P 19:40 cait i misread my calendar, it's i there correctly 19:40 alexbuckley caroline: yeah the anticipation is growing :) 19:41 andreashm exciting! 19:41 bag can’t wait 19:48 * caroline prepares notes for the meeting 19:49 bag hahaha :P 19:49 bag welcome m23 19:50 m23 hi to all 19:51 caroline any wagers going around? ;) 19:51 JesseM Hello #koha 19:52 bag heya JesseM 19:52 bag nah caroline I just dream about it 19:55 cait caroline: i think you are the most important person tonight 19:56 jzairo hello 19:56 bag caroline: you’re always the most important person 19:56 caroline aw! 20:00 tcohen #startmeeting General IRC meeting 3 October 2018 20:00 huginn Meeting started Wed Oct 3 20:00:14 2018 UTC. The chair is tcohen. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 20:00 huginn Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 20:00 huginn The meeting name has been set to 'general_irc_meeting_3_october_2018' 20:00 bag YES!!! 20:00 tcohen #topic Introductions 20:00 caroline #Caroline Cyr La Rose, inlibro 20:00 cait #info Katrin Fischer, BSZ Germany 20:00 tcohen #info Tomas Cohen Arazi, Theke Solutions 20:00 bag #info Brendan Gallagher (bag) - ByWater 20:00 kellym #info Kelly McElligott ByWater Solutions 20:00 talljoy #info Joy Nelson, Bywater Solutions 20:00 andreashm #Andreas Hedström Mace, Stockholm University Library 20:01 alexbuckley #info Alex Buckley, Catalyst IT, New Zealand 20:01 georgew #info George Williams, Northeast Kansas Library System 20:01 davidnind #info David Nind, Wellington, New Zealand 20:01 barton #info Barton Chittenden - ByWater 20:01 jzairo #info 20:01 Margaret_ #info Margaret Hade, ByWater Solutions 20:01 jzairo Jessica Zairo, ByWater Solutions 20:01 andreashm #info Andreas Hedström Mace, Stockholm University Library 20:01 tcohen that didn't work, jz :-D 20:02 jzairo i hit enter too quick :) 20:02 bag hehe 20:02 andreashm made me realize I forgot my info at least. 20:02 tcohen you can fix it 20:03 josef_moravec #info Josef Moravec 20:03 JesseM #info Jesse Maseto, BWS 20:03 thd #info Thomas Dukleth, Agogme, New York City 20:04 tcohen moving on then 20:04 tcohen #topic Announcements | KohaCon19 winning proposal 20:04 tcohen caroline, the stage is yours 20:04 bag y’all can still enter your #info at anytime 20:04 caroline Thanks! 20:04 caroline The vote was on for 7 weeks, from august 12 to september 30. 20:04 caroline We had 399 people who voted (I did a quick check and there didn't seem to be cases where ppl voted several times with different email addresses) 20:05 cait iand you all have to stay to the end of the meeting, after the reveal! 20:05 caroline And the winner is... 20:05 * caroline opens envelope 20:05 JesseM :) 20:05 caroline nterleaf/Dublin Business School/PTFS-Europe in Dublin!! 20:05 tcohen Wooooo 20:05 caroline #info The winning proposal for KohaCon19 is Interleaf/Dublin Business School/PTFS-Europe in Dublin 20:05 bag WOW 20:05 cait wow 20:05 alexbuckley wow 20:05 JesseM Cool 20:05 thd What was the final vote count? 20:05 andreashm congrats to Dublin 20:05 georgew Awww 20:06 tcohen congrats to dublin, and everyone 20:06 caroline It was over 50% for Dublin in 1st place 20:06 caroline I'm trying to find the exact number, but I'm having trouble logging in 20:06 bag caroline++ 20:06 tcohen carline++ 20:06 bag thanks for doing a hard job :) 20:06 cait caroline++ thx! 20:06 georgew I wanted to try to talk my boss into letting me go to Sweden. She'd have said no, but now she'll have to say no to Dublin. 20:06 cait and congrats Dublin 20:07 caroline I'll send the exact numbers with the announcement on the mailing list 20:07 cait maybe she'll say yes? 20:07 davidnind caroline++ 20:07 andreashm caroline++ 20:07 caroline Sorry about the hiccups we had with the pop up publicity :/ 20:07 tcohen caroline++ 20:08 tcohen #actions Caroline will send an announcement to the mailing list with the final vote numbers 20:08 caroline +1 20:08 tcohen anyone? something to add ? 20:08 alexbuckley caroline++ 20:09 NateC #info Nate Curulla BWS 20:09 caroline Was the voting process ok? 20:09 bag +1 I thought it was great 20:09 NateC Congrats Interleaf and Dublin! 20:09 cait me too 20:09 caroline I know some ppl had issues that we were able to resolve by email 20:09 cait good with the mails and reminders too 20:10 caroline Ok thank you! 20:10 tcohen interleaf++ 20:10 tcohen ptfs-e++ 20:10 caroline I'll be up to do it again the next time if it's not in america 20:11 cait hm i got something 20:11 cait to add 20:11 caroline #info Caroline Cyr La Rose, inlibro (also realized I forgot my info) 20:11 davidnind I found the process very easy, and the instructions were clear as well. 20:11 cait we had pushed Pakistan to 2020 last meeting, but we forgot about the anniversary rule 20:11 cait NZ 2020 20:11 tcohen yes 20:11 cait so we need to fix that :) 20:12 cait rangi: nz wants to host it, right? :) 20:12 rangi thats right 20:13 cait so that's settled :D 20:13 tcohen actions? 20:14 caroline what do we do about pakistan? 20:14 tcohen I haven't been at the meeting but I'd say something should be proposed on a next meeting? 20:15 cait hm? 20:15 cait what's to propose? 20:15 tcohen a decision was made and we need to change it? 20:15 rangi minute we made a mistake, and rectifying it by pushing it to 2021 20:16 rangi i dont think we need a whole other meeting to do that? 20:16 cait thd: have you been in contact with them? only see your edits on the wiki page 20:16 thd Yes, I added them to the page for 2021. 20:16 cait i think making them wait another month would not make it nicer 20:16 tcohen of course not 20:16 cait thd: 2020 i think not 2020 20:16 cait 21 20:16 cait sorry 20:16 tcohen I agree! who is in contact with them? 20:16 thd s/21/20/ 20:16 cait https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/KohaCon20_Proposals 20:17 cait thd? 20:17 thd I did not succeed with the email addresses which they left, one of which was not functioning. 20:17 bag I would be willing to contact them 20:17 cait bag++ 20:18 bag I will try to nicely say that NZ reached out about 2 years ago to host 2020 20:18 rangi thanks bag 20:18 georgew Who is the contact in Pakistan? 20:18 thd I asked someone at ByWater to forward my message to the gmail address provieded because gmail does not like the configuration of my mail server MX records. 20:19 tcohen bag++ 20:19 cait action him :) 20:19 bag yeah I don’t know what that means thd 20:19 bag but I got it from here 20:19 bag no need to try and explain it to me - I think we can move on tcohen 20:20 thd I did send my message to the gmail address but I expected no response given an unknown gmail user. 20:20 tcohen ok :-D 20:20 tcohen #topic Update on releases 20:20 tcohen rmaints? 20:21 caroline wahanui is on vacation 20:21 tcohen ah yes 20:21 tcohen I think we can move on 20:21 davidnind It's school holidays here, does wahanui have kids? 20:21 tcohen #topic Koha press reviews/resource collections 20:21 tcohen davidnind: hehe 20:21 caroline that's me again 20:21 bag wow for the notes (Catalyst submitted a bid for KohaCon2020 - on Oct 26 - 2016 20:22 caroline I was going through the links at the end of the manual and came upon a diigo group and a zotero group compiling links on Koha 20:22 rangi yeah, we dont muck around 20:22 rangi :) 20:22 cait excellent bag 20:22 tcohen :) 20:22 caroline #link https://groups.diigo.com/group/everything-koha 20:22 caroline #link https://www.zotero.org/groups/6684/koha 20:22 caroline The latest entry in the diigo group is from 2011 and in the zotero group it is from 2017 (only one in 2017 and before that in 2015) 20:22 cait oh right 20:22 caroline I was wondering if this is something we want to continue to do, like a press review/media monitoring of Koha. 20:23 cait one of the entries of 2017 doesn't seem right on zotero 20:23 caroline We already have the newsletter (maintained by Chad Roseburg -- don't know his IRC nick) and Twitter (maintained magnificently by davidnind) 20:23 caroline davidnind++ 20:23 cait we recently got to know about some thesis about koha 20:23 cait and there have been some articles 20:23 caroline think press reviews could be potential sources of information for the newsletter and Twitter, and vice-versa. 20:23 cait amybe it would be nice to have a place to post those to 20:23 caroline *i 20:24 caroline If we want to continue doing press reviews/resource collections, which tool should we use? I feel like dispersing our efforts between two tools isn't efficient. 20:24 cait i am not sure what tools are good for that atm 20:24 cait i know a little about zotero, but not sure about it's current state 20:25 caroline I don't know either diigo and zotero (other than the add-on) 20:25 davidnind I use Zotero for other things, and it is actively in development (+ free and open source) 20:26 caroline that fits in the philosophy 20:26 m23 cait some link on thesis (in czech) we collect on czech koha web https://www.koha.cz/index.php/prejdete-na-koha/pripadove-studie 20:26 davidnind https://www.zotero.org/about/ 20:27 bag (ok email sent about KohaCon2020) 20:27 davidnind we could always use Koha!:-D (but I don't think it is the right tool for the job) 20:27 davidnind bag++ 20:27 cait heh 20:27 caroline hehe! 20:28 caroline So do we say promote Zotero and transfer from and then delete the diigo thing? 20:28 cait do we have access? 20:29 caroline It says membership is open 20:30 davidnind Nicole maintained Zotero I think 20:30 davidnind Just trying to find the wiki page with who else has the credentials 20:31 caroline It says the owner is Marlène Delhaye 20:31 davidnind beat me to it! here it is https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_on_Social_Networks 20:33 caroline a lot of those seem out of date 20:33 tcohen so we need to phone nbaratta 20:35 caroline do we agree that we want some sort of federated bibliography tool? and if we can find the access to zotero, we'll use that? 20:36 cait I'd say so 20:36 tcohen +1 20:36 cait +1 20:36 davidnind +1 20:36 alexbuckley +1 20:36 georgew +1 20:36 m23 +1 20:36 andreashm_ +1 20:37 caroline #agreed we need to find the access codes for the zotero group 20:37 thd +1 20:37 bag +1 20:37 caroline #agreed we want some sort of koha bibliography 20:38 bag sometimes Nicole is in this channel but maybe we use twitter to contact her 20:38 bag davidnind: do you want to try and reach out through the Koha twitter handle and ask her? 20:38 davidnind happy to! 20:39 caroline #action davidnind will reach out to nicole to get the access to the zotero group 20:39 tcohen ha, you beat me 20:39 caroline (adding to your to-do list davidnind :) ) 20:39 caroline sorry tcohen! 20:39 tcohen no worries! 20:39 caroline My stint at chairing yesterday went to my head ;) 20:40 cait :) 20:40 tcohen :-D 20:40 davidnind :) 20:40 davidnind the power! :) 20:41 tcohen should we set time for the next meeting then? 20:42 tcohen #topic Next meeting 20:42 tcohen November 7th, 20 UTC? 20:42 tcohen maybe change time? 20:42 jzairo I cheeked hootsuite (which nbarreta used) and the kohails facebook and twitter accounts are no longer connected. If someone can add me as an admin, I would be happy to help 20:43 bag jzairo++ 20:43 tcohen jzairo++ 20:43 bag 14 UTC? 20:44 tcohen any objections to 20:44 tcohen November 7th, 14 UTC? 20:45 caroline fine with me 20:45 davidnind +1 20:45 bag none 20:45 tcohen #info Next meeting: November 7th, 14 UTC 20:45 tcohen thanks everyone :-D 20:46 tcohen #endmeeting 20:46 huginn Meeting ended Wed Oct 3 20:46:04 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) 20:46 huginn Minutes: http://meetings.koha-community.org/2018/general_irc_meeting_3_october_2018.2018-10-03-20.00.html 20:46 huginn Minutes (text): http://meetings.koha-community.org/2018/general_irc_meeting_3_october_2018.2018-10-03-20.00.txt 20:46 huginn Log: http://meetings.koha-community.org/2018/general_irc_meeting_3_october_2018.2018-10-03-20.00.log.html 20:46 caroline tcohen++ 20:46 tcohen \o/ 20:46 davidnind tcohen++ 20:46 cait tcohen++ 20:49 bag tcohen++ 20:49 bag thanks! 20:51 caroline Looking at https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Roles_for_19.05 what does a wiki curator do? 20:51 rangi nothing 20:52 rangi if we look at history ;) 20:52 caroline hehehe! 20:52 rangi but in theory they are supposed to try to organise/help clean up/remove wrong info from the wiki 20:52 caroline Is it an elected position? 20:53 davidnind otherwise it becomes a disorganised mess... 20:53 caroline I could do a bit of that, I found a lot of old stuff while looking around for the manual 20:54 caroline Without deleting, maybe archiving the older stuff 20:54 rangi its pretty much anyone who volunteers ;) 20:55 caroline Do we want to add social media managers on that page too? 20:55 rangi couldnt hurt 20:56 davidnind good idea! 20:56 cait +1 20:59 caroline davidnind, I put your name on Twitter for 19.05, but you can remove it if you don't want to do it anymore 21:02 cait caroline++ 21:02 davidnind thanks caroline - happy to carry on doing it, but equally happy for someone else who is a bit more social media savy to have a go 21:02 cait davidnind++ 21:03 caroline I think you're doing a great job! 21:04 caroline I'm barely able to keep up with inlibro's stuff, let alone my own 21:04 alexbuckley davidnind++ 21:08 davidnind it can be time consuming - Tweetdeck helps a lot with searches and lists, still need to add other monitoring though e.g. blogs, Koha vendor websites, etc. 21:12 caroline I started using hootsuite for the company's social media because we have twitter and facebook. it helps a lot 21:12 caroline do you follow hashtags? 21:13 davidnind I think Hootsuite was orginally used, I've tried it before and like it - need to get access to Koha hootsuite account 21:17 davidnind hashtags I follow are #kohails #kohaconXX (without and with year), search for koha + library, mentions, and lists for Koha Community members, Koha support providers, Library-related technology (e.g. OpenRefine, MarcEdit) and Koha library related accounts (e.g. Marshall Breeding) 21:18 davidnind I add progressively to the lists I created when things come up 21:29 davidnind @later tell Joubu automated screen capture: have added to wiki page (https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Documentation_Automated_Screencapture) and will look a bit more into cucumber.io and you messages https://lists.katipo.co.nz/public/koha/2018-January/049807.html (I'm not sure why I missed them!) 21:29 huginn davidnind: The operation succeeded. 21:30 davidnind @later tell Joubu bug 21479 - removing from cart removes 2 items: worked out what I was doing wrong (was using cart itself, not from the results lists), will have another look later 21:30 huginn davidnind: The operation succeeded. 21:31 davidnind right, off to work (a bit of a late start today!)... 21:32 * ashimema has surfaced from his wifi free zone 21:33 * ashimema may have drunk a red wine too many though.. 21:47 * ashimema hugs everyone in koha 21:47 caroline too much wine, eh? lol! 21:47 cait we love you too 21:53 ashimema Hehe 22:19 caroline Good night #koha! See you tomorrow! 23:57 mtompset Greetings, #koha. 23:58 mtompset Greetings, alexbuckley :) 23:58 mtompset I'll sign off your parts now. :)