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22:03 caroline bye!!
22:01 davidnind have fun everyone! :)
22:00 cait :)
22:00 caroline Rushing to see my kitties at the spca!
21:59 davidnind right, better get back to the job that pays me!
21:59 caroline +1!
21:59 cait back to netflix and knit for me :)
21:59 davidnind thanks for chairing caroline!
21:59 caroline thank you! :D
21:58 cait caroline++
21:58 davidnind caroline++
21:58 cait thx caroline :) thx all!
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21:58 caroline #endmeeting
21:58 cait heh
21:58 caroline #info Next meeting: 6 November 2018, 19 UTC
21:58 * caroline mutters don't mess it up... dont mess it up
21:57 davidnind is fine with me
21:57 cait yes
21:57 caroline Is Nov 6 ok?
21:57 cait 19 sounds good
21:57 caroline https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingdetails.html?year=2018&month=10&day=2&hour=19&min=0&sec=0&p1=165&p2=22&p3=195
21:56 caroline so it would be 2 hours earlier
21:55 caroline today's meeting was at UTC 21
21:55 davidnind nearly UTC 22:00
21:55 cait what is now?
21:55 caroline UTC 19?
21:54 caroline Same as me I think. Right now it's almost 6 pm
21:54 davidnind what time is it for LeeJ
21:53 cait we are moving in a few weeks... so might be even later then
21:53 caroline omg ok, so how about 8 for you?
21:53 davidnind nearly 11am (daylight savings time)
21:53 cait 11pm here os not against earlier
21:53 caroline earlier? I though it was like 7am in NZ
21:52 davidnind happy for it to be earlier if it suits you all better (https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/)
21:52 caroline Do we want to change the time?
21:51 caroline #topic Set time of next meeting
21:51 caroline #action caroline will add the development process section to taiga (just to remember to do it)
21:50 caroline #agreed the development process/cycle will be in an appendix
21:50 caroline ok so appendix/new section
21:49 davidnind I think as an appendix, but having a brief intro in about Koha section
21:49 caroline or in the "about"?
21:49 cait maybe a new section?
21:49 cait faq still needs a major clean up
21:48 caroline appendix? faq?
21:48 caroline #agreed write something very non-technical for end users to understand the development process/cycle
21:48 davidnind makes sense to me!
21:48 cait +1
21:48 caroline Ok, so do we agree to write something very non-technical for end users to understand the development process/cycle?
21:47 cait we probably need something new
21:46 caroline Yes very.
21:46 cait but the second shoudl be current at least
21:46 cait i think all technical
21:46 caroline This ? https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Release_maintenance
21:45 caroline The wiki is so big... trying to find the info in https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Category:Development
21:44 caroline cait++ both presentations were great!
21:43 davidnind loved the development process talk cait - was a great overview all in one place
21:43 davidnind Perhaps in an appendix on the development process, with a section in the about section about numbering and the release cycle?
21:42 cait maybe a non-technical descriptoin with links to wiki for more?
21:42 cait but we might want to have osmething more
21:42 caroline https://koha-community.org/about/release-schedule/
21:42 cait hm there is information on the wiki
21:42 caroline I noticed there was a brief outline on the community website
21:42 caroline There is also the question of placement. Would that be in the introduction? in the FAQ?
21:41 caroline I was wondering if we wanted to document the outline of the development process, or is that too technical?
21:41 caroline It was mentioned on IRC that the development process/version maintenance was not documented. Someone was specifically asking why version 17.11.09 came out after version 18.05.03, which is a reasonable question, I think.
21:41 caroline #topic Description of development process
21:41 caroline #action davidnind will write a proposition to organize images to the docs mailing list and we will discuss by email
21:40 davidnind caroline++ fixing all the docbugs!
21:39 caroline davidnind++
21:39 davidnind :)
21:39 davidnind as an aside I used the pngcrush tool and it turned images from about 82.3 MB down to 54.6 MB, about a 1/3rd reduction in size
21:39 caroline ok so we'll discuss this via email and hopefully agree on a method (I hate hate hate merge conflicts because of images!)
21:39 cait davidnind++
21:38 davidnind will post to docs list this evening (for me)
21:38 caroline phew!
21:37 davidnind there are about 1473 images at the moment
21:37 caroline I was thinking 3 capital letters + 3 numbers
21:37 cait ok for me
21:37 cait so not chaging file names/locations, just the numbering?
21:37 davidnind that way you can hopefully check if there is an image first in that category instead of creating another one
21:37 davidnind and leaving the source images as they are
21:36 davidnind e.g. cat-0001, circ-0001
21:36 caroline +1
21:36 davidnind leaning towards the option of organising the index of images using categories by module
21:36 davidnind I procrastinate a lot!
21:35 davidnind not really!
21:35 cait you do so many things
21:35 davidnind been a bit slack on sending to the list...
21:35 caroline #topic Organization of images in images.rst
21:34 davidnind yep!
21:34 caroline ready for the next topic?
21:34 davidnind things happen!
21:33 caroline hehe!
21:33 davidnind the spelling check is useful as well - have to remember to write US english!
21:33 cait sorry we lost them
21:32 davidnind the instructions look exactly like what I ended up doing!
21:32 caroline #action davidnind will write up his notes on Selenium+Robot Framework+Screencapture library and share them with the group
21:32 cait with how to do sphinx, generate locally etc
21:31 cait it used to be instructions
21:31 cait yeah it's gone: https://gitlab.com/koha-community/koha-manual
21:31 caroline #action caroline will add bring back the readme page as a task on taiga
21:31 caroline I'll add it to taiga
21:31 cait because rangi just said it got killed
21:31 davidnind the current readme is very brief!
21:30 caroline cait what do you mean is there no readme anymore?
21:30 davidnind Looked at a lot of other options, but all seemed to require some sort of programming skills
21:30 cait can we add bringing back the readme page?
21:29 caroline I think it's still worth a try
21:29 cait about the docs
21:29 cait oh oops
21:29 davidnind Anyway will write up and share, and see if it is viable
21:28 davidnind I'm sure there will be some problems...
21:28 davidnind For languages you could change the Koha install language and then run 'test'
21:27 davidnind Will have a look, thanks rangi!
21:27 rangi would be good to get them back :)
21:27 rangi http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=kohadocs.git;a=commit;h=14e3bbb13fbe0c3d6eae8877fcddd9ff75d41f53
21:26 rangi this commit killed them
21:26 rangi we used to have instructions
21:26 rangi but davidnind http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=kohadocs.git;a=blob;f=README.md;hb=2482c4476c54347e652824ad2ec41e3a37b78c0b
21:26 * rangi is just heading out
21:26 caroline Personnaly, I think this would be very interesting, especially to have up-to-date screenshots and also screenshots in all languages
21:26 davidnind Would take a bit of time to setup existing screenshots, but would make it much easy in the future
21:25 davidnind It may not cover all screenshots, but maybe most (I hope)
21:25 caroline thank you
21:25 davidnind I ran out of time before this meeting, but will add wiki page and repository
21:24 davidnind Will have a look at that - I think I did come across cucumber, but thought it was a bit complicated - will check it again
21:24 caroline davidnind: did you think it was very long to write up everything?
21:24 davidnind You can also add data to fields and capture that before it presses submit
21:24 caroline It's very similar to what Joubu showed me. He was working with https://docs.cucumber.io/gherkin/reference/
21:23 davidnind You can take screenshots of parts of pages based on css classes
21:23 davidnind You then run a command from the command line and it folows the steps - can be against any Koha installation (I used the docker testing)
21:23 caroline It looks simple enough
21:23 cait interesting!
21:22 davidnind [Teardown] Close Browser
21:22 davidnind Projects Page Should Be Open
21:22 davidnind Submit Credentials
21:22 davidnind ... css=#login
21:22 davidnind Capture and crop page screenshot images/login_page.png
21:22 davidnind Input Password koha
21:22 davidnind Input Username koha
21:22 davidnind Open Browser To Login Page
21:22 davidnind Valid Login
21:22 davidnind Basically, inc plain language you write a script, something like this:
21:21 davidnind it took me a while to find something useful and relatively easy
21:21 caroline So what is the workflow for your thing davidnind?
21:21 cait i am not sure i understand how to do it, but it might be easier than i think
21:21 davidnind also ran out of time to add my notes and add repository
21:20 davidnind forgot to add my name
21:20 caroline ah ok!
21:20 davidnind That's me - I have been experimenting with Selenium + Robot Framework + Screencapture library
21:20 caroline Someone wrote on the wiki "Have been experimenting with Selenium+Robot Framework+Screencapture library - looks promising" I'm guessing that's Joubu
21:19 caroline 3) Some images might be hard to generate (50% easy, 30% medium, 20% maybe not attainable)
21:19 caroline 2) Joubu still has to work on it, he stopped because of the lack of comments
21:19 caroline 1) Harder to add images to the manual, only advanced editors will be able to add them
21:19 caroline CONS
21:19 caroline 3) Script will test all pages, and regressions will be found
21:18 caroline 2) Screenshots can be generated in all languages
21:18 caroline 1) Screenshots are always up-to-date with the latest version, do it once and they're always there
21:18 caroline PROS
21:18 caroline #link https://www.evernote.com/shard/s162/sh/03edec69-1fd2-4f30-b562-f12ffc1f9e0b/b4179d876d0fedaa086a35d116a0f44c
21:18 caroline We discussed of the pros and cons and I wrote them down so we could discuss them here
21:18 caroline During hackfest, I spoke with Joubu about his tool to take automatic screenshots. He said no one had really sent him comments, so we weren't sure if it was because there was no interest, or because of another reason (too busy, email got lost in pile of emails, etc.)
21:18 caroline #link https://tree.taiga.io/project/ldjamison-kohadocs-1805/us/586
21:18 caroline I added a dedicated section in Taiga, but it discouraged me a little bit
21:17 caroline I noticed a lot of screenshots were out of date in the manual
21:17 caroline #topic Automation of screenshots
21:17 caroline #action davidnind will write a section on setting up a local copy of Sphinx, so you can generate an updated docs
21:17 caroline Alrighty
21:16 caroline :)
21:16 cait i so want to say yes to that
21:16 cait heh
21:16 caroline like the doctor?
21:16 cait but it does work :) and you can have your own epub too
21:16 davidnind added to my task list!
21:16 cait you have to regenerate
21:16 caroline Please do! I'm always anxious with the syntax because I don't know how it will turn out
21:16 davidnind was easy to setup on Linux, can do on Windows, but don't have a mac to test
21:15 caroline Cool!
21:15 davidnind yep - doesn't take too long to generate
21:15 caroline So you can see in real time your changes?
21:15 caroline I'm eager to see it, I didn't know it was possible
21:15 davidnind wasn't as complicated as I thought
21:14 caroline davidnind: of course!
21:14 caroline #topic Next steps
21:14 davidnind Is everyone okay if I add a section on setting up a local copy of Sphinx, so you can generate an updated docs
21:14 cait so we can probably move on?
21:14 Joubu (I have to leave sooner than expected, sorry! See you tomorrow)
21:14 cait i think no changes
21:13 caroline Does anybody have anything to say about this? It's a topic by default so I never know
21:13 caroline #topic Workflows
21:13 caroline moving on
21:13 caroline Any other comments?
21:12 davidnind I thought it went very well - there was a lot of interest, and I think everyone managed to get something commited
21:12 caroline hehe thx :) We all did a great job
21:12 caroline #link https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Editing_the_Koha_Manual
21:12 caroline The wiki page was really useful
21:12 cait she was awesome :)
21:11 cait caroline++
21:11 caroline That's a NZ thing, it's not as much an incentive for the rest of us ;)
21:11 davidnind caroline++
21:11 davidnind he gave out some chocolate fish as well I think
21:11 caroline during the hackfest, I gave a workshop on editing the manual and there was 8-10 ppl in attendance.
21:11 caroline Maybe future writers? :D rangi noticed new contributors.
21:10 cait he challenged them to make a edit for a fix of the version number and 2 did
21:10 caroline I don't know if ppl asked them questions in private afterwards, but I know a couple approached me with questions
21:10 cait rangi did the demo - he is the brave one
21:10 davidnind rangi++ cait++
21:10 caroline It generated a lot of interest
21:10 caroline cait++ rangi++
21:10 caroline #link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXn9k4Ir8is&index=24&list=PLV_OXyJ1D3BgcRtxrjVkCBXjSt7Dr1qKy&t=0s
21:10 caroline rangi and cait gave a presentation on documenting Koha with a live edit of the manual (!!)
21:09 caroline KohaCon18 & hackfest
21:09 caroline #topic What's been done so far
21:09 Joubu #info Jonathan Druart
21:09 caroline Joubu?
21:08 davidnind #info David Nind, Wellington, New Zealand
21:08 caroline #info Caroline Cyr La Rose, inLibro
21:08 caroline (please use "#info" in front of your introduction to have it show up in the automatic minutes)
21:08 cait #info Katrin Fischer, BSZ Germany
21:08 caroline #topic Introductions
21:07 caroline mwa hahah!
21:07 huginn Current chairs: cait caroline davidnind
21:07 caroline #chair davidnind
21:07 huginn Current chairs: cait caroline
21:07 caroline #chair cait
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21:07 huginn Meeting started Tue Oct 2 21:07:27 2018 UTC. The chair is caroline. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
21:07 caroline #startmeeting Documentation IRC meeting 2 October 2018
21:07 davidnind I can try and chair if you like - will be a bit slow... but it is a good learning experience!
21:07 caroline :) thank you!
21:06 cait but you will do fine if you do it :)
21:06 cait if you want
21:06 caroline Hopefully I don't mess it up like last time
21:06 cait share the weight
21:06 cait :)
21:06 cait i can do it
21:06 caroline :( ok, that means it will just be me typing the whole time :)
21:06 davidnind https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Chairing_meetings
21:05 cait maybe yo should chair as punishment then :)
21:05 davidnind https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Documentation_IRC_meeting_2_October_2018
21:05 caroline yes very big (my fault)
21:05 cait do we have an agenda?
21:05 caroline anybody want to chair as LeeJ is MIA?
21:04 caroline Ok, well if we're four, it's ok we can start the meeting
21:04 caroline Yay for knitting!
21:04 davidnind Hi cait!
21:04 cait sorry, i accidentally closed the window... and got lost in my knitting project
21:04 caroline oh hello!
21:04 cait hi
21:03 caroline Do you think we should postpone and wait for them?
21:03 Joubu or postpone?
21:03 davidnind A quick meeting then!
21:03 caroline LeeJ has internet troubles and I pinged cait earlier and she didn't answer
21:03 Joubu I am more or less around
21:03 caroline I think it's only the two of us
21:03 caroline Hi davidnind!
21:02 davidnind Hi caroline!
21:02 davidnind I'm here!
21:02 caroline Who is here for the Docs meeting?
20:40 caroline cait did you see LeeJ's email?
19:29 caroline No my mistake, it's there, but the cart says 0
19:28 caroline My first add still shows "in your cart", but it's not there
19:28 Joubu I just cannot imagine nobody noticed that before, it impacts all stable releases...
19:28 Joubu that's super crazy
19:28 caroline Does it have to do with the cookies?
19:27 Joubu the biblionumbers are not concat correctly in the cookie
19:27 Joubu but actually it's worse than that. If you add, add, add, remove, add, then refresh, the selected ones are not the correct ones
19:27 caroline very weird
19:27 rangi morning
19:27 caroline yes
19:27 Joubu if you remove one, 2 are removed
19:26 caroline Is that what's happening for you too?
19:26 caroline Joubu: I tested in my 18,05.03. When I remove one, there is no more number
19:26 Joubu I confirmed on sandbox and catalyst demo, nothing in the bug tracker. How did nobody notice that before?!
19:08 Joubu that's super easy to test: launch a search at the opac, click "add to basket" twice, then remove one
19:06 Joubu hum...17.05.x as well, should be on my side, right?
19:06 Joubu 17.11 as well
19:03 Joubu only opac
19:02 Joubu I do recreate on 18.05.x as well
19:02 Joubu could anyone confirm that please?
19:02 Joubu add, remove => show "1"
19:02 Joubu so, add, add => show "2"
19:02 Joubu The "(remove)" link on the result page, to remove from cart, remove 2 "things" from the cart
18:58 ashimema Lol
18:51 * LeeJ shakes fist at campus network for going down
18:42 oleonard Bye all
18:14 CrispyBran hello mtompset
18:14 mtompset CrispyBran! Greetings. :)
17:56 caroline monica: ISSUEQSLIP is not for reservations. Do you mean HOLD_SLIP?
17:55 monica how to make ISSUEQSLIP print from a reservation until you load the loan, thanks
17:51 CrispyBran Hmmmm
17:48 oleonard CrispyBran: We haven't run into any problems that I'm aware of with non-public notes
17:47 ashimema `SetEnvIf Host "mrdev-elastic\.koha-ptfs\.co\.uk" OVERRIDE_SYSPREF_OPACUserCSS="body { background-color: red; }"` should still work right?
17:44 CrispyBran would you mind checking something for me? We are on 17.11, and i don't have my test system in front of me right now. We are saving a non-public note in an item record (field x), but when I run a report, it is coming up in the paidfor field.
17:41 oleonard Yes
17:41 CrispyBran oleonard: are you in?
17:38 cmo_ so i'm good
17:38 cmo_ nah i'm just curious about my sqld but it restarted fine
17:38 ashimema '{"koha_rcs_biblios":{"mappings":{"data":{"_all":{"analyzer":"analyser_standard"},"properties":{"es_id":{"type":"long"},"record":{"type":"text","store":true}}}}}}#'
17:38 ashimema just didn't want to swamp out cmo_ as they were also asking questions ;)
17:37 ashimema okies.. I'm happy to stay here
17:37 cmo_ i know i like reading about people's koha problems and learning more
17:37 kidclamp i think it's relevant ashimema
17:37 * ashimema moves to PM to stop spamming general too much
17:36 kidclamp add a dumper to dump the query before it gets passed to ES/Catmandu
17:36 cmo_ maybe will help you..
17:36 cmo_ *restart
17:36 cmo_ last time i couldn't understand why my catalog didn't work i just had to reset memcached lol
17:35 kidclamp is there any problem in koha? is searchengine set to elastic?
17:35 kidclamp curl -X GET "localhost:9200/koha_rcs_biblios/_mapping/"
17:35 cmo_ ugh lol my syslog entries go back to the day after the crash
17:34 * ashimema sent a long message: < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/v1/download/matrix.org/nJLiNUfrKsDdmUEtgwgnvvTu >
17:34 ashimema certainly looks like Koha's not hitting it
17:34 ashimema hmm
17:34 ashimema docs.count for each looks right too
17:34 kidclamp how many docs?
17:33 ashimema looks right to me
17:33 ashimema 4 indexes.. 2 for each of my instances..
17:33 ashimema that curl command gives
17:32 ashimema nada
17:32 kidclamp that should show if you have docs working
17:32 kidclamp then: curl -X GET "localhost:9200/_cat/indices?v"
17:32 kidclamp try a search for '*' that shoudl return anything
17:32 ashimema .. /var/log/elasticsearch.log shows the re-index stuff.. but doesn't appear to grow when i hit the opac search
17:31 tcohen ah, maybe syslog knows about the problem
17:31 ashimema hmm
17:31 cmo_ just saying 'i wonder' cuz i haven't figured it out
17:31 cmo_ i know how to read log files but ty
17:31 cmo_ hehe
17:31 tcohen tail -n 100 /var/log/mysql.err
17:30 cmo_ last line from date of crash just shows socket established
17:30 cmo_ looking tcohen but not seeing where crash occurred so far
17:29 kidclamp what does the elasticsearch.log give you ashimema? Did you doa reindex with -d? always best to make sure the indexes are cleared and up to date
17:25 tcohen cmo_: /var/log/mysql.err
17:25 cmo_ i wonder why
17:25 cmo_ hmmm my mysqld died
17:24 ashimema I can't get any results for any searches at the moment :(
17:24 ashimema may nab you for some elastic fault finding later if your still about kidclamp
17:21 kidclamp yup LeeJ - I wil try to generate recent ones today too
17:20 ashimema 18.06 is the codename for in-development version
17:17 huginn LeeJ: The operation succeeded.
17:17 LeeJ @later tell kidclamp hey, so is this the file for the 18.11 release? was asking because it's labeled 18.06.. https://gitlab.com/koha-community/koha-release-notes/blob/master/release_notes_18_06_00.md
17:15 oleonard Thanks for updating qa tools with filter check
17:15 oleonard Joubu++
17:03 Freddy_Enrique Bom apettite
17:03 LeeJ :)
17:03 LeeJ caroline: okay enjoy :
17:02 caroline going to lunch bbl
17:01 caroline Were you able to find it with that handle?
17:01 Freddy_Enrique caroline++
17:01 Freddy_Enrique thanks a lot! I was able to find the newsletter, but with the tweeter account was a different history
17:00 caroline The newsletter is here : https://koha-community.org/category/koha-newsletter/
16:59 caroline search for @kohails
16:59 Freddy_Enrique I was searching in tweeter the Koha label. But, I dont get anything
16:58 caroline yes
16:58 Freddy_Enrique Ok, before I forget. You mentioned that we have newsletter and tweeter to get informed
16:57 caroline well all the koha manuals
16:57 caroline yes, as far as I know
16:57 Freddy_Enrique manuals*
16:57 Freddy_Enrique is that a fact for all the manual?
16:56 caroline keep in mind that we only ADD to the manual, we rarely go through and remove out of date things
16:55 Freddy_Enrique I found it in the 17.05... Man, I really need to update asap
16:55 caroline yeah but all those features are already in the opac... maybe it's an older thing
16:54 Freddy_Enrique got it
16:53 Freddy_Enrique basically, gives more features to the catalog
16:53 caroline updated 2014 :/
16:52 caroline maybe this? https://www.drupal.org/project/sopac
16:51 Freddy_Enrique me too, just saw it in the manual
16:50 caroline google search says it's "social opac", but I have no idea what it does
16:50 Freddy_Enrique thanks caroline
16:49 Freddy_Enrique I meant to ask... what is that SOPAC2?
16:49 caroline No it's later today
16:49 caroline https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Next_IRC_meetings
16:48 Freddy_Enrique By bad, I thought you were currently in a meeting
16:48 caroline ugh I can never get this right
16:48 caroline next meetings?
16:48 Freddy_Enrique meeting time guys?
16:47 * ashimema may or may not be at the meeting :(
16:47 mtompset LeeJ++ # Correct reply protocol. ;)
16:46 LeeJ mtompset: salutations!
16:46 LeeJ caroline: I don't mind! I'm glad you took the initiative because I've been a terrible inactive jerk :)
16:46 mtompset LeeJ! Greetings. :)
16:42 caroline I added tons of topics for today's meeting, sorry! I hope it won't be too long
16:42 caroline +1!
16:41 LeeJ caroline: merged :)
16:41 caroline thx! :)
16:40 LeeJ caroline: merging your 171 now
16:40 LeeJ caroline: hello! I missed my #koha family :)
16:40 caroline Hi LeeJ! I missed your entrance :)
16:38 LeeJ ashimema: I'm taking 12 credits on top of working 40 hours a week
16:37 LeeJ ashimema: you said it :P
16:36 ashimema Been a busy few months..
16:36 * ashimema realises he never tidied up the two SR merge requests.. not sure how I ended up with two
16:35 ashimema Thanks
16:35 ashimema I was trying to get ahead of the curve on that one.. SE thing with the stock rotation one
16:35 LeeJ so that's still WIP? I just re-added the WIP
16:35 ashimema Looks like the bug it relates to isn't in master yet (in fact it's failed QA) so not ready I'm afraid
16:35 ashimema Oh, not sure how the WIP got lost
16:34 ashimema But I can watch this.. just don't expect immediate replies 😉
16:34 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20271 major, P1 - high, ---, oha, Failed QA , Merge deleted biblio, biblioitems, biblio_metadata, and items tables with their "alive" cousins
16:34 LeeJ ashimema: is your Update systempreferences.rst to match changes made by bug 20271 ready to merge to the manual now? I noticed it doesn't have WIP anymore but just wanted to check
16:34 ashimema Just picking up kids from clubs and running around cooking tea.. so on general parental duties
16:33 ashimema Sorta
16:33 LeeJ ashimema: around?
16:31 * LeeJ dives into the manual's merge requests
16:30 LeeJ had the best intentions of being back on here earlier but classes had other plans for me apparently :)
16:28 LeeJ long time no see
16:28 LeeJ hi everyone
16:28 oleonard Hi LeeJ
16:28 * LeeJ waves
16:23 * magnuse wanders off into the night
16:00 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=21475 critical, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Error in the OPAC when viewing a record which has no biblio-level itemtype
16:00 oleonard Bug 21475
15:57 Joubu that's tricky then...
15:55 Joubu ha!
15:54 oleonard Joubu: I have item-level itemtypes enabled
15:53 magnuse do we have any docs on how to use the new rest api yet? e.g. for third party developers who are not familiar with koha?
15:53 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=21150 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, RESOLVED FIXED, Data inconsistencies - item types
15:53 Joubu oleonard: we are going to assume that item types are correctly defined (bug 21150)
15:51 * mtompset apologies to Shakespeare for ruining Romeo & Juliette. :)
15:49 mtompset Joubu, What's in a name? A Kaban board by any other name would be just as annoying. I don't like it. :P
15:48 oleonard Can't call method "may_article_request" on an undefined value at /home/vagrant/kohaclone/opac/opac-detail.pl line 761
15:48 oleonard Is it a known bug that records without biblio-level item types can't be viewed in the OPAc?
15:45 caroline Fellow ubuntu users, what do you use to borrow ebooks? I tried installing Adobe Digital Editions with Wine, but it keeps crashing and I need to test our ebook lending service integration -_-
15:37 Joubu good news, it's not trello but taiga :)
15:35 reiveune bye
15:28 * mtompset doesn't like Trello, but is willing to use it.
15:14 * ashimema likes trello boards too
15:13 Freddy_Enrique I feel it is better than google keep notes
15:12 Freddy_Enrique mtompset++
15:12 Freddy_Enrique mtompset: that trello we app.... really useful :)
14:44 Joubu paul_p: maybe?
14:41 Joubu git log points to commit "rel_3_0 moved to HEAD" erk
14:40 * Joubu re-reads that and does not understand what he wrote...
14:40 oleonard I can't remember why LibraryName was meant to allow HTML...
14:39 Joubu oleonard: so yes we need them, and we should not escape LibraryName but use $raw insead
14:38 Joubu oleonard: these lines assume that the pref LibraryName can contain html tags, and should be interpreted. However LibraryNameTitle should remove the tags (not interprete them nor display them)
14:37 caroline Is there a minimum amount for invoice adjustments? If I add an adjustment of 0.01 then click on update, the amount becomes 0.00
14:32 oleonard Anyone around who is familiar with using sip_cli_emulator.pl in kohadevbox?
14:27 ashimema Cheers
14:27 kidclamp idk what else
14:27 ashimema Hehe
14:27 kidclamp title level holds
14:26 ashimema Anyone able to remind me what goes bad when your seeing that allot
14:26 caroline The manual readers thank you :)
14:26 kidclamp accountants understand, or so I am told
14:26 caroline *thanks
14:26 ashimema 'item-level_itypes set but no itemtype set for item'
14:26 kidclamp if set they will be subtrcted from the available funds immediately
14:26 caroline ok thank!
14:26 ashimema I.e. when does it affect the budget
14:26 kidclamp if it is not set, then the adjustment doesn't affect your budget until the invoice is closed
14:25 kidclamp whether the funds should be counted as 'ordered' before the invoice is closed
14:25 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19166 new feature, P5 - low, ---, nick, RESOLVED FIXED, Add the ability to add adjustments to an invoice
14:25 caroline anyone who worked on bug 19166 (kidclamp, ashimema, cait), what does "Encumber while invoice open?" mean?
14:23 mtompset Yep. That was difference. :)
14:22 mtompset DOH! I'm on 18.05
14:22 oleonard http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=blob;f=C4/Auth.pm;h=7d330b57bc557c8a68f5b745919c8531a71b01ce;hb=HEAD#l524
14:21 mtompset That's a good question. I guess it would depend on where Library Name is used in the template files, and if it really does push it through a filter.
14:20 mtompset That's 512.
14:20 oleonard #TODO : replace LibraryName syspref with 'system name', and remove this html processing
14:19 mtompset ??? I'm not sure I'm looking at the same code you are, oleonard. What is line 524?
14:15 oleonard With everything getting an HTML filter in the template now, do we need lines 524-527 of Auth.pm?
14:09 mtompset Greetings again, #koha. :)
14:06 mtompset Back in a reboot.
14:06 mtompset Bye, cait... DOH! too slow because of typos.
14:06 cait bye all
14:05 mtompset Greetings, kohaputti ... why putti?
13:54 mtompset Greetings and Salutations, tuxayo! :)
13:54 tuxayo Greetings mtompset :)
13:53 mtompset The fact that they were at Hackfest means we might wish to give them priority when looking at things.
13:53 mtompset Greetings, oleonard.
13:53 mtompset Oh don't be such a downer, oleonard
13:53 oleonard So, only 200 bugs missing from that board.
13:52 mtompset There's something almost satisfying about the "Needs Sign Off" column being almost empty. :)
13:51 mtompset That one. :)
13:51 mtompset https://trello.com/b/8EZBrFYR/kohacon18-hackfest
13:51 cait which page?
13:51 cait sorry, about to leave!
13:50 mtompset Hopefully that doesn't upset people. :)
13:50 mtompset If anyone is interested... I just moved things around on the KohaCon Hackfest board to reflect our current status. :)
13:49 mtompset cait, you here?
13:47 huginn mtompset: cait was last seen in #koha 12 minutes and 16 seconds ago: * cait waves
13:47 mtompset @seen cait
13:46 mtompset I attempt to avoid morning/evening greetings, since you never know what timezone people are in. :)
13:46 mtompset Greetings, Freddy_Enrique
13:42 Freddy_Enrique Good morning mtompset
13:41 Margaret good morning mtompset!
13:40 mtompset Greetings, Margaret
13:40 mtompset Greetings, #koha.
13:38 caroline +1
13:38 * Freddy_Enrique starts the day with some Lindsey Stirling music
13:35 * cait waves
13:35 Freddy_Enrique *waves to all :)
13:23 calire hi caroline
13:23 * andreashm waves
13:23 oleonard Hi caroline
13:22 caroline Good morning!
13:05 ashimema hola
12:53 calire and oleonard
12:53 calire hi tcohen
12:53 oleonard Hi tcohen
12:52 tcohen morning
12:44 ashimema ;)
12:44 ashimema no need for vagrant for me
12:44 Joubu ho, I told it already
12:44 ashimema i currently do ;)
12:44 Joubu `vagrant up` and you have a working ES install... :)
12:42 ashimema so perhaps there's some extra config I'm missing.. but for me the default config after running a apt install elasticsearch (with the es 5 apt repos only installed).. i tried just starting it with 1gb and it immediately dies out of memory
12:41 ashimema I can't even start ES without 4gb
12:41 kidclamp what version are you running?
12:40 kidclamp hmm..in my experience ES will crash with less then 4GB
12:40 fridolin its a 5000 records
12:40 fridolin our sandboxes avec 1Go xmx
12:40 fridolin kidclamp: ah depends on catalog volume
12:33 magnuse java ftw! ;-)
12:20 kidclamp yeah, ES needs 4gb at minimum I believe
12:17 andreashm janPasi: good!
12:12 magnuse "Backslash separated text (.csv)" really?
12:09 ashimema indeed
12:08 Joubu s/filled/reserved I guess
12:06 eythian https://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/librarian-detectives-forgotten-books
11:59 ashimema lol
11:59 ashimema damn elastic is heavy.. it immediately filled all the extra ram I gave it.
11:57 ashimema it's what i had lying around ;)
11:57 ashimema it's installed as per an old git dev install ;)
11:57 ashimema I'm not using kohadevbox for this yet
11:56 Joubu ashimema: update your kohadevbox repo
11:56 ashimema I've just quadrupled it
11:56 ashimema to be fair to it.. my dev box was only at 1gb ram
11:56 cait ashimema: have to try on the laptop at home, but will do :)
11:56 janPasi andreashm: that would be a good solution actually :)
11:55 janPasi andreashm: hmm, maybe, I'll look into that
11:55 ashimema I had to go digging through logs to figure out it was oom
11:55 ashimema so mine wasn't
11:55 ashimema seems the systemd inits don't report whether a start actually succeeds
11:54 ashimema try `sudo journalctl --unit elasticsearch` cait
11:54 cait and it won't start (stays red dot)
11:54 ashimema it's also run out of memory too
11:54 ashimema and
11:54 ashimema oh.. I have the fun of systemd
11:54 cait ashimema: noNodes is what i see n my devbox atm too... if you figure that out
11:51 * magnuse thinks so, yes
11:50 ashimema starting es should be as simple as `sudo service elasticsearch start` right?
11:49 Joubu kidclamp: another follow-up attached to 13618
11:48 ashimema which sounds as simple as elastic isn't running
11:48 ashimema trying to index on elastic I get `[NoNodes] ** No nodes are available: [http://localhost:9200]`
11:48 ashimema ok.. so
11:45 andreashm hi oleonard
11:45 oleonard Hello #koha
11:33 andreashm can't ^^
11:32 andreashm janPasi: can you create a set for the records they would like to harvest?
11:26 ashimema i kinda thought that that was what unstable on community was
11:26 ashimema ooh.. I wasn't aware of a koha-nightly deb repo
11:23 ashimema once I'm up and running and grab it and take a look
11:22 ashimema ta Joubu
11:22 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18235 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Elastic search - Configurable facets
11:22 Joubu bug 18235
11:20 ashimema or that you want SO/QA on whilst I'm working to get a setup running :P
11:20 ashimema would you recommend me grabbing any in the queue patches to give the best impression?
11:19 ashimema I'm finally getting around to playing with it to get a demo setup for our company meeting tomorrow
11:19 ashimema yeah.. that was my backup plan
11:19 ashimema hehe
11:19 janPasi magnuse: you wouldn't happen to know who to contact in the norwegian national library?
11:19 ashimema ta
11:18 kidclamp if it doesn't work I just crib from kohadevbox to get ES installed and running ashimema
11:18 kidclamp however it looks fairly reasonable
11:18 magnuse janPasi: yeah, they handle a lot of the tech stuff for our national library, so i suspect the national library would be the "project owners"
11:17 kidclamp it has not been updated (by me) in some time
11:17 janPasi magnuse: I think they are the ones that maintain the Sami bibliography
11:17 ashimema kidclamp: is this still the most up to date place to look for ES state of affairs and setup instructions? https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Elasticsearch
11:17 janPasi magnuse: oh, I see
11:17 magnuse ah, he works at BIBSYS, one of our competitors :-)
11:16 janPasi magnuse: ok, I sent an e-mail to Asbjörn Risan about this, so we'll see :)
11:15 janPasi magnuse: and OAI doesn't really offer much in the way of selecting what actually gets harvested
11:14 magnuse uhm, sorry that does not ring a bell for me :-)
11:14 janPasi magnuse: the problem in that being that there are ~1.7 million biblios, of which you want around 70000
11:14 janPasi magnuse: I got the impression that you guys would like to harvest library of (finnish) lapland's database with OAI/PMH for the Sami bibliography
11:13 magnuse ok?
11:13 janPasi magnuse: well... it's about sami bibliography
11:12 paxed magnuse: i think janPasi has some choice words for you? ;)
11:09 magnuse \o/
11:00 * kidclamp waves
10:46 eythian_ oh, dcook was here.
10:26 calire g'night
10:22 ashimema night dcook
10:21 andreashm night dcook
10:21 dcook Ok actually leaving. Night everyone!
10:21 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10662 new feature, P3, ---, dcook, Failed QA , Build OAI-PMH Harvesting Client
10:21 andreashm dcook: great! hope to see bug 10662 moving again! =)
10:21 dcook I kept bumping into this issue and now that I've resolved it and know why it seems to be happening... I can move on heh
10:21 dcook andreashm: I now have a kohadevbox that should work though, so hopefully that should make it easier for me to get stuff done
10:20 dcook I have a little bit of code I want to do for a ESP8266 at home. Shouldn't take long... right?
10:20 andreashm =)
10:20 dcook paxed: It's like you're reading my mind
10:20 ashimema hehe
10:20 ashimema so.. see you in an hour then dcook ;)
10:20 dcook I was thinking I'd grab pizza on the way >_> heh
10:19 paxed what? no no no, you should code your own fun projects instead...
10:19 ashimema hehe
10:19 ashimema go andreashm
10:19 dcook lol
10:19 ashimema lol]
10:19 andreashm and do what all responsible people do. eat chips for dinner and start working from home instead. =)
10:18 andreashm oh, go home dcook!
10:18 paxed it's only 13:18 here, so a bit more to go for me
10:18 dcook 8:18pm is too late to be at work
10:18 dcook Although on that note, I am going hoooome
10:18 dcook Certainly an interesting idea
10:17 paxed i don't think there's any method for it, but it might be nice to have a field in the systempreferences for "cache keys that need to be invalidated when this value is changed", with '*' meaning all
10:15 dcook paxed: I wonder that too. I've had a lot of issues with caching and system preferences and just haven't had time to look into it...
10:02 dcook https://gitlab.com/koha-community/kohadevbox/issues/273
10:02 dcook Just going to leave this here...
09:52 paxed hm. is there a mechanism to invalidate cache (or certain cache keys) when saving a (certain) syspref?
09:09 ashimema it already has a signoff line
09:09 ashimema ooh..
09:08 * ashimema has tested.. looks good :)
09:07 ashimema :)
09:07 paxed ashimema: you're interested in testing it, seems to me, so SO ;)
09:05 ashimema if I SO it, cait can QA perhaps.
09:05 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11175 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, pasi.kallinen, Needs Signoff , Show the parent record's component parts in the detailed views
09:05 ashimema would you rather I signoff on bug 11175 paxed.. or wait for the SO and then QA it?
08:45 andreashm good catch
08:45 andreashm optional
08:44 andreashm so its only in 773w where it is optinal
08:44 paxed 773$w doesn't say immediately
08:44 paxed note the "immediately"
08:44 andreashm makes sense then
08:44 paxed "MARC code (enclosed in parentheses) of the organization originating the system control number, followed immediately by the number."
08:44 paxed ah
08:44 paxed andreashm: looks like 035 _doesn't_ have spaces, at least according to LoC examples
08:43 paxed ashimema: done
08:43 andreashm never seen a 035 with a space between 003+001. But haven't really paid attention to how it looks at 773w.
08:39 ashimema :)
08:38 paxed single line change, so *shrug*
08:38 ashimema many eyes aye
08:38 ashimema sorry.. didn't mean to throw a spanner in the works :)
08:38 ashimema :)
08:37 paxed i'll redo the patch so it doesn't consider UseControlNumber
08:36 ashimema that's nice
08:36 ashimema I do like that you also fall back to checking for 003 = 003 match plus 773w = 001 matching
08:36 ashimema hehe
08:36 ashimema I'll update the wiki examples then to add in the brackets
08:35 ashimema interesting
08:35 * dcook curses Windows
08:35 paxed actually, the spec says "System control number of the related record preceded by the MARC code, enclosed in parentheses"
08:34 ashimema cool.. I missed the 'maybe' in the code.. my bad
08:34 paxed but it's (host_003) + maybe_spaces + Host_001
08:34 ashimema kinda why I'd like to make easyAnalytics work with useControl number.. so we can suggest/enforce how they're combined at least from the manual catalogueing stance
08:33 dcook (CaOONL)840790694E is what I'm used to for a 035?
08:33 ashimema yeah.. it's a mess ;)
08:33 paxed so looks like space is optional
08:33 paxed ashimema: looks like even the LoC doesn't khow exactly, as their examples also have $w(CaOONL)840790694E
08:33 * dcook is a huge fan of koha-testing-docker...
08:33 dcook In fact I should check the status of the kohadevbox on my desktop to see how it's coping
08:33 ashimema I see
08:32 dcook Going forward, I'd link out though
08:32 dcook Nah, I thought I was having issues with git for windows, so I just did it within the kohadevbox on the laptop at kohacon
08:32 ashimema do you not link out to a local kohclone dcook?
08:32 paxed $w(DLC)###59003745#
08:31 ashimema as above
08:31 dcook Oh wow... I seem to have filled my kohadevbox's diskspace with my koha git...
08:31 ashimema and 003 in brackets and a space
08:31 ashimema I'd also seen no space
08:31 ashimema which is interesting
08:31 ashimema paxed does a 'combine with space' OR '773$w=001 AND 003=003'
08:31 paxed 773w=(Host_003) Host_001
08:30 ashimema i'm also never entirely sure how 001 and 003 should be combined for 773$w
08:30 paxed ashimema: okay, i'll redo the patch
08:30 ashimema oh. interesting other side to this.. thanks dcook :)
08:30 dcook np ashimema. I do find 001+003 interesting in general! Although mostly in terms of how 001+003 should be combined to make the 035 on import I think...
08:29 ashimema sorry dcook.. I actualyl highlighted the wrong person
08:29 dcook awesome, I'll PM you
08:28 josef_moravec hi dcook, yes still here
08:28 ashimema paxed: except that if happend to have a catalogue where 003 was important.. enabling useControlNumber would mean you get bad results in bug 11175
08:28 dcook hey josef_moravec, are you still around?
08:28 * dcook wasn't really following the conversation
08:27 ashimema so you can build up the specificity of the searches
08:27 ashimema hense my thoughts on adding a useControlIdentifier pref to add the distinction
08:27 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11175 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, pasi.kallinen, Needs Signoff , Show the parent record's component parts in the detailed views
08:27 paxed but that has nothing to do with bug 11175, imo
08:27 andreashm oh. didn't know that. thanks for clarifying!
08:25 ashimema dcook ^
08:25 ashimema if you don't use useControlNumber then links are simple title searches.. so your even worse off
08:25 ashimema but the 001 + 003 is the 'correct' way to do it according to spec as far as I'm aware
08:25 ashimema so.. I imagine in allot of cases there's not conflicts in 001's that actually require the 003 distinction
08:24 ashimema it just ignores 003's
08:24 ashimema well it doesn't break it
08:24 andreashm breaks
08:24 andreashm wait, useControlNumber braks 001+003 search/linking?
08:22 andreashm dcook: haha. =)
08:22 ashimema I agree
08:21 ashimema perhaps a followup bug that adds a 'UseControlIdentifier' pref and allows for the links to construct much like in your display search
08:21 paxed ashimema: 003+001 is what should be used for linking per the MARC21 format specs.
08:21 ashimema as the linking fields stuff all ind on useControlNumber syspref I could certainly see people wanting that turned on.. but then the hiding of that fact that that inadvertantly turns off the 001 + 003 type searching/linking for this could be a surprise
08:20 dcook It made me think of that time at Kohacon heh
08:20 ashimema I also wonder about your 'hidden in the code' fallback route between using 001 + 003 and just 001
08:19 andreashm dcook: I always manage to break something with git. so I sympathize.
08:18 ashimema agreed.. just wondered if there was the intention to do it
08:18 paxed ashimema: well, 773 is the component parts field. 775 is "other edition", etc. this would be a good start to even handle any of these
08:17 dcook But... looking at fixing it. So that's fun.
08:17 dcook Also managed to mess up the git on the laptop :'(
08:17 dcook andreashm: Nah, I think I'm going to be here forever now :D
08:17 ashimema 490, 773, 775, 780, 785
08:17 * ashimema is looking at how far useControlNumber now goes.. it's used for a whole bunch of linked fields these days
08:16 ashimema are you deliberately only handling 773's in that display bug?
08:16 fridolin hi ;)
08:15 paxed ashimema: yes?
08:13 andreashm unless you've already gone by now
08:13 andreashm dcook: using the pre-configured laptop makes a lot of sense in this situation. =)
08:12 ashimema paxed still about?
08:04 dcook Hmm... I do still have this laptop with everything set up. Maybe I should just use that in favour of my workstation...
08:03 dcook I still have a handful or two of peanut m&ms though so all good
08:03 dcook It's already been 6 minutes now heh
08:02 andreashm make it 4 good minutes! =)
08:01 dcook And now I'm just going to see how long I can go before I get hungry :p
08:01 dcook I sent you an email saying I was going to try to do some community work with 4 minutes left of my work day
08:01 andreashm and that error does sound bad!
08:01 dcook Yup
08:01 dcook hey andreashm
08:00 andreashm and hi dcook! working late?
08:00 andreashm hi tuxayo
07:59 * dcook hopes vagrant doesn't crash his workstation again
07:59 dcook eeep
07:59 dcook "The machine index which stores all required information about running Vagrant environments has become corrupt"
07:57 tuxayo o/ andreashm
07:47 * andreashm waves
07:25 sophie_m hi magnuse and #koha
07:25 magnuse bonjour cait et sophie_m
07:05 * ashimema really needs to get an ES setup today.. meant to be demoing it tomorrow
07:04 magnuse yay!
07:03 ashimema I'll try to poke our docs person.. she's keen now 😁
07:03 magnuse 2 October 2018, 21:00 UTC https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Documentation_IRC_meeting_2_October_2018
07:03 magnuse today, i think
07:01 ashimema The docs meeting is just before it isn't it.. or is that today..I've lost track
07:01 ashimema Indeed
07:00 * ashimema is on the phone right now...bet you can tell from all the typos
07:00 magnuse sounds nice, though
07:00 ashimema Hehe
07:00 ashimema Yeah 2100
07:00 ashimema We have a two day meeting in London, and all go out for dinner.. as we're all remote it's our only opportunity to catch up in person
07:00 magnuse y'all can join the meeting from your fonez ;-)
07:00 magnuse 21:00 your time?
06:59 magnuse 22:00 my time
06:59 ashimema Indeed.. I'll likely be at dinner with the company gang
06:59 magnuse 3 October 2018, 20:00 UTC https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/General_IRC_meeting_3_October_2018
06:58 magnuse ashimema: i think the meeting is late in the evening for us
06:58 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11175 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, pasi.kallinen, Needs Signoff , Show the parent record's component parts in the detailed views
06:58 magnuse i would say as long as the feature can be turned off for those not able to use it, bug 11175 should make it in even if it does not fit cait's libraries :-)
06:58 calire tomorrow is a bank holiday here so I will likely forget -_-
06:57 * ashimema is in a company meeting all day tomorrow so isn't yet sure if he'll actually be able to attend the general meeting 🤔
06:57 ashimema I believe so
06:55 magnuse what's the plan for announcing the winner of the kohacon19 vote? at the general meeting tomorrow?
06:48 * ashimema also always wondered if easyAnalytics could be merged into the useControlNumber handling
06:41 paxed all the component record mangling for display is done in xslt
06:41 paxed zebra search.
06:41 ashimema What's the performance like with massive analytic numbers I wonder
06:40 ashimema Coolios
06:40 reiveune hello
06:39 paxed ashimema: the list also just shows scrollbars if the height would be more than 25em: https://bilious.alt.org/~paxed/koha/bug11175_screenshot.png
06:38 alex_a bonjour
06:37 josef_moravec hi #koha
06:37 * dcook waves while on the phone
06:37 paxed ashimema: it now depends on a syspref to turn it off altogether, so
06:36 * calire waves
06:36 ashimema hmm
06:36 ashimema and her wierd missing middle level
06:36 ashimema ooh
06:35 ashimema hi matts
06:35 ashimema adding a 'see more . . .' shouldn't be too terrible though should it?
06:35 matts hi
06:35 ashimema leads to a massive catalogue
06:35 ashimema yeah.. I had a loooong chat with her about that way back
06:35 ashimema aha.. I see.. caits special libraries with article level records.
06:35 ashimema I'm happy to lend a hand.. be a lovely feature to get in
06:33 ashimema really?
06:33 paxed ashimema: i took a loook, haven't touched them, because i'm losing faith ever getting this feature in
06:33 ashimema at last.. even
06:33 ashimema be nice to actually do the merge of https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Analytics into the little set of pages at least too
06:30 ashimema May even be nice to add them into the manual at some point
06:30 ashimema I wrote them, or rather wrote some and adapted others when I last worked in this area.. would be awesome to keep them up to date with this feature
06:30 ashimema https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Serial_Analytics
06:30 ashimema You didn't fancy taking a look through these wiki pages and updating them at all did you?
06:27 magnuse paxed++
06:26 ashimema koha's not done that to date has it.. that's awesome.. I've been wanting to add that for ages
06:26 ashimema ooh.. are you doing the proper combination of 001 and 003..
06:26 magnuse \o/
06:26 ashimema but I'm personally happy with it going in, in two stages.. zebra first
06:25 ashimema may well need a ES followup though perhaps?
06:25 * ashimema is just reading the patch.. it's pretty comprehensive
06:25 ashimema it's using proper 001 links too isn't it?
06:25 paxed i just hope it can be shoved into master eventually...
06:16 ashimema I love that feature paxed
06:16 ashimema paxed++
05:42 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11175 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, pasi.kallinen, Needs Signoff , Show the parent record's component parts in the detailed views
05:42 paxed cait: morning. bug 11175 now obeys a syspref
05:34 ashimema Joubu++ #jumping on the critical bug whilst I was asleep.. thanks dude
05:31 ashimema <_oftc_Freddy "cait++"> Freddy_Enrique++ #casting some light on how the community fits together.. awesome diagrams man
03:55 Javier_Pelaez d
02:37 mtompset Have a great day, #koha kidclamp
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02:36 mtompset @later tell CrispyBran I'm more findable on skype, facebook, twitter, and other communication methods. :)
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00:41 kidclamp Heck yeah
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00:40 Guest1662 Yippee, build fixed!
00:30 kidclamp night!
00:11 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 21428: Update two-column templates with Bootstrap grid: Reports part 1 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=7858cae1bf5fbdfa07a2d03fee534d1613553146>
00:11 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 21429: Update two-column templates with Bootstrap grid: Reports part 2 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=8b1c37929509ea880eafdd0f0650f301d314b034>
00:11 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 21176: Fix due date calculation when high holds and TimeFormat is 12hr <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=11885e75c04fa53cd88daae1ec0dc4a2a8ecd1f7>
00:11 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 21385: Correctly count all items in basket for booksellers list <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=17db3ab05cb25d08f0790cff9eed5f0f75ca8107>
00:11 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 21385: Add Unit Tests <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=3f20c8c65172c1a32e7d2b20ed2506199423f103>
00:11 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 21385: (follow-up) make query consistent <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=5e6f4f1f4fb346351dcfc6c580888022641d4b6a>
00:11 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 21403: Add Indian Amazon Affiliate option to AmazonLocale setting <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=d1bf2238c49bad5471b467aae4a5f680639cee97>
00:11 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 21430: Update two-column templates with Bootstrap grid: Reports part 3 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=15670cd590e4a1efc01bb9bd1648162781486f5b>
00:11 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 21448: Fix copy repeated subfields when linking an authority with 6xx <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=08386cd3f05c5bc4dc6306e3a1d6c4878cce7c86>
00:11 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 21462: (bug 15136 follow-up) Shift column numbering <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=fca98de0e8663c4e7049e55ac2cc2600c9b659a5>
00:11 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 21385: Define the Koha object class for orders <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b3dee0daf29c4593aee2781307853845a6cd3735>
00:11 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 21403: Do not overwrite the options if modified locally <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=c6e44c9c6bb78bfb3edeacf877c5edb114aab558>
00:11 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 17602: Add missing html filters <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b04df7d606afa7ec7a43c788dcfcd06e595ccabd>
00:11 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 21403: DBRev 18.06.00.035 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=4859e49539e37f08689df3ba001739711f1332a4>
00:11 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 18639: (follow-up) Remove debugging code <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=051eef767ab3723a63e1bfff50864ab441e05f23>