Time Nick Message 22:01 caroline good weekend #koha! 20:48 Guest1662 Project Koha_Master_U18 build #50: UNSTABLE in 28 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U18/50/ 20:31 Guest1662 Project Koha_Master_D8 build #56: UNSTABLE in 38 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D8/56/ 20:20 Guest1662 Project Koha_Master_D9 build #562: UNSTABLE in 25 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9/562/ 20:09 cait1 that's what i was thinking :) 20:09 caroline I'll send her positive vibes on your behalf :) 20:08 cait1 break a leg? 20:08 cait1 ah cool :) 20:08 caroline My sister in law writes monologues with a group of actors so the whole family is going to the show to support her 20:08 cait1 i have to knit back on my current project... procrastinating 20:07 cait1 oh, what are you seeing? 20:07 caroline I'm supposed to work until 6pm, but I might leave a bit early since I'm going to a show tonight 20:06 cait1 wow 20:06 * cait1 is in weekend already... 10 pm here 20:06 caroline more or less 2 hours 20:06 caroline bye! 20:06 cait1 caroline: how long unti yours starts? 20:06 cait1 have a nice weekend :) 20:04 cait1 needs some clean-up still https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Roles_for_19.05 20:00 caroline bye! 20:00 kidclamp I will run away now :-) Have THE good weekend all 20:00 kidclamp cait++ 19:59 cait1 kidclamp: i will add the roles page now 19:57 * kidclamp pats his belly 19:57 kidclamp he's gotten me far! 19:55 caroline I trust your gut :) 19:55 kidclamp I like the former 19:55 caroline I'm not sure about "holds slip print pop-up" vs "holds print slip pop-up" 19:54 cait1 are we sure nick is a native speaker btw? the moustache.... 19:54 kidclamp As much as we can while talking about this :-) 19:54 caroline does it make sense? 19:54 caroline kidclamp what do you think of the sentence "If set to 'do', the holds slip print pop-up will appear automatically upon checking in a reserved item" 19:53 kidclamp wrapping up anyways :-) I have a bad habit of push and run 19:53 cait1 looks like it :) 19:52 caroline well, now I know kidclamp is still working! :D 19:52 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 21362: Advanced editor: Fix tab navigation in fixed fields <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=024643f51c4e0ca1803dd5013bb857e98cd924e5> 19:52 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 16424: Update default values in advanced editor when changing frameworks. <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=2074421ba3a32979d797479cf124ae6bfb333d36> 19:52 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 16739: Show note instead of 500 error for 'Generate EDIFACT' when no EDI account... <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=121b8105bcb00909b1e8081442148c1939c101a6> 19:52 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 21078: overdrive.js Catch error if window.opener is not accessible <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=6975a6836a21f42675a9394602246891c19d9522> 19:52 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 21167: Fix price formatting on printed fee invoice and receipt <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=184c44ee31bf54ad179f9fb9fd501114902a0176> 19:52 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 20241: Fix display of publication year in subscription record search for MARC21 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=8df47bdde678773f028f312b4cd8000a12425281> 19:52 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 20785: Advanced Editor does not honor MarcFieldDocURL <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=ca839922fd4bf3c455454f6dd9182203b1481831> 19:52 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 21297: Display public lists to existing lists when adding a new item <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=33010595113b5ec279f93b1127d20b466e1ea023> 19:52 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 16424: Add framework support to advanced MARC editor <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=75b5ce2a317dad5307d2490c2d2f16e3e3bc3e29> 19:52 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 16424: Make the svc/bib service keep the existing framework code <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=02a0f3185c4aad3c712346e6bcedd0736725f699> 19:52 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 16424: Minor CSS change for the advanced editor Settings menu <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=72e2d729f290201b48e09192f0dc4b7fdd26db6b> 19:52 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 16424: Handle framework code properly also when adding a new record <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b70d2bc281d70aad2dce0c6021b60e4075641e49> 19:52 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 21167: (QA follow-up) Fix amount formatting on invoice receipt <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=c86485f933a0eabdb8af215c5b74c5416d2cb95a> 19:52 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 21167: (QA follow-up) Use accounttype.inc for generating account description <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a6a7516652115ccc49099f045ed8c23a9f29eb26> 19:52 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 21396: Add 2 missing use statements in Koha::Account <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=1b56e446ed64cad9d4dd42a8cb3f1953f424e0aa> 19:52 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 21398: Make search field mandatory when adding to a basket from an existing record <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=bf89e4e124fb38982fa8b9708af1fb67fd16f982> 19:52 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 21407: Can't enter new macros in the advanced cataloging editor (rancor) <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=01470fab9eabd3750746b540389de7a6d85fda05> 19:52 cait1 why not? they won't answer if they are not around :) 19:52 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 21416: 'gr' option missing from ZEBRA_LANGUAGE options in koha-sites.conf <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=705571a2b870fbb652ca210e32ee3e7ca050e75f> 19:52 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 16424: (QA follow-up) Use Modern::Perl <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=35863802eab24bd39a75fcba0d16ac59dca6261e> 19:52 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 16424: Compiled CSS <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e5750b27d4272cb7f001647090773197c495b918> 19:52 caroline for a friday evening 19:52 caroline think I can ping some english natives? Is it too late in the evening? 19:51 caroline XD 19:51 cait1 :) 19:51 cait1 he is a terrible proof reader 19:51 cait1 hehe 19:51 cait1 wouldn't 19:51 * caroline is denying any responsibility for that sentence 19:50 cait1 he could, but he probably would 19:50 caroline rangi can always refuse my commit if it doesn't make any sense 19:50 cait1 ok now i am not too :) 19:50 cait1 i wouldn't overthink it 19:50 caroline I wasn't sure of holds slip print pop-up vs holds print slip pop-up 19:48 caroline the holds slip print pop-up will appear 19:48 cait1 pop-up is a thing already... isn't it? 19:48 cait1 maybe we could scratch window? 19:47 caroline I was actually looking for comments on the part "holds slip print pop-up window" it doesn't sound good in my head 19:47 cait1 ah 19:46 caroline on weekend? 19:46 cait1 where are the native speakers? 19:46 caroline yeah, it sounds better 19:46 caroline upon checking in a reserved item? 19:45 cait1 checking in a reserved item? (not a native speaker) 19:44 caroline Native English speakers, does that sentence make sense in English? "If set to 'do', the holds slip print pop-up window will appear automatically upon checkin of a reserved item." 18:51 ashimema For the next cycle that is 18:51 ashimema Going to put forward next week at our company meeting that one of them join the team.. see what the boss people say 18:51 caroline yass! 18:50 ashimema I'm slowly onboarding our bods 😉 18:49 caroline It needs love still. And I don't want the docs team to be stuck in a crazy documenting spree in november 18:48 ashimema I'm also really happy and impressed with manual improvements too 18:47 caroline Back to the manual 18:47 caroline yeah, I was eager but gave up. 18:47 ashimema caroline++ looks to be an a testing spree.. thank you 😃 18:46 oleonard Happy weekend everyone 18:43 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20809 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Link patron image to patron image add/edit form 18:43 oleonard Anyone want to try Bug 20809 again? 18:16 kidclamp heh, no, is for a dev, or try on a different machine, I don't knwo what causes it 18:14 * caroline thinks she'll just go back to documentation instead of trying to sign off 18:06 caroline Is that something I can do while testing and if so how? 18:04 caroline fully qualify the function call? 18:04 kidclamp It's an occasional problem where Koha doesn't know which file to look in - the general solutions is to fully qualify the function call caroline 17:24 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10382 critical, P5 - low, ---, alex.arnaud, Needs Signoff , collection not returning to null when removed from course reserves 17:24 caroline I'm trying to test bug 10382 but when I disable the course, I get this error 17:23 caroline Does Undefined subroutine &C4::Items::ModZebra mean I have to install C4::Items::ModZebra? 15:11 kidclamp where did you ping me? 15:10 cait1 kidclamp: now you are ignoring me ;) 15:08 kidclamp ^ that was a nasty bug 15:03 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=21450 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , link_bibs_to_authorities.pl is caching searches without the auth type 15:03 kidclamp bug 21450 14:57 Freddy_Enrique There I go Koha wiki 14:57 * Freddy_Enrique turns into reading mode 14:56 oleonard ashimema: So, the test plan... :D 14:56 Freddy_Enrique :cait1 yeeey 14:55 * ashimema checks Dummy.. I'm not sure if it's implimented there yet.. my bad 14:55 ashimema thanks 14:55 ashimema interesting 14:55 ashimema ah.. 14:55 oleonard ashimema: I think it was FreeForm -> Dummy 14:54 * ashimema is naughty :( 14:54 ashimema also.. I will add a test plan.. 14:54 ashimema I'm just re-wrapping my head around this code.. it's been ages since I've properly dug into it 14:54 ashimema from what backend to what backend? 14:54 ashimema what away around were you testing the migrate but? 14:53 ashimema I'm chatty today 14:53 ashimema lol.. sorry cait 14:53 oleonard Yes 14:53 ashimema oleonard still about? 14:53 cait1 sorry... just reading back, you all talked so much while i was doing this other thing 14:52 cait1 Freddy_Enrique: librarian :) 14:52 cait1 shorter hair and new glasses :) 14:52 cait1 ashimema: not that much different 14:52 * ashimema wonders what cait looks like now.. in my head you still look like that picture ;) 14:51 caroline My linkedin photo is old but I guess I look pretty much the same 14:50 cait1 hm i need to put a new photo there... the hair... ugh. and new glasses :) 14:50 cait1 caroline: i did the same with you - stalking for a photo 14:45 reiveune bye 14:43 Freddy_Enrique And if you are into treking, really sure you enjoyed the landscapes 14:43 Freddy_Enrique Glad you enjoyed it :3 14:42 Freddy_Enrique :o 14:42 * ashimema loved his visit to peru a few years back 14:42 Freddy_Enrique My hearth goes for the pinguin 14:42 ashimema :) 14:41 Freddy_Enrique Yeah... a linux geek, peruavian librarian 14:41 ashimema so it's a mix in there already :) 14:41 ashimema it was originally added at a Marseille Hackfest... where librarians and developers are already invited together 14:40 caroline Freddy_Enrique: I didn't know you were a librarian! More of us! 14:40 calire it's for everyone 14:40 Freddy_Enrique Or, is it just for dev? 14:40 ashimema add away :) 14:40 ashimema certainly 14:40 Freddy_Enrique As you know... I am a librarian. But little by little learning beyond the koha management. Is it possible to add my name there? 14:39 calire wahanui confuses many 14:38 Freddy_Enrique XD 14:38 Freddy_Enrique wahanui - info bot, greeter, troller.....troller?? 14:37 ashimema I'd hire him back in an instant.. but he's moved on to other things 14:36 oleonard I miss atheia and I only met him once! 14:35 * calire too 14:35 * ashimema misses atheia 14:35 calire oh yeah, could change that 14:35 * ashimema suggests she updates the facebook ;) 14:35 Freddy_Enrique I wanna know which one of you is a dev geek and which are librarians 14:35 calire :P 14:35 ashimema ;) 14:35 * calire waves 14:35 ashimema ooh.. not seen LibraryClaire in a while 14:34 ashimema hehe 14:34 caroline I relaized not a lot of ppl put their picture on linkedin 14:34 calire ashimema, I hope you changed it since 14:34 oleonard ashimema: Haha, same! 14:34 caroline maybe! Lol! 14:34 calire caroline, were you my 'someone is looking at your profile' 14:33 * ashimema says realising he's sitting here wearing the exact same t-shirt! 14:33 Freddy_Enrique oleonard++ 14:33 caroline Ooh that Facebook page would have been really helpful before Kohacon... I was stalking a couple of you on linkedin to try to find pictures so I could recognize you 14:33 ashimema wow.. I have changed so little from that photo... 14:33 * Freddy_Enrique feel ashamed 14:32 Freddy_Enrique OMG, its been a while since I am part of this channel and just asked this basic stuff 14:32 oleonard ...which is getting out of date, sadly. 14:32 kidclamp https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Community_Facebook 14:32 calire but yes, the irc regulars page has some basic infos 14:32 caroline That's my reference too 14:31 calire darn, oleonard was faster 14:31 oleonard Freddy_Enrique: This is a start: https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/IRC_Regulars 14:31 Freddy_Enrique I feel anonymous sometimes.... 14:31 Freddy_Enrique I just noticed that I do not know to much about you guys. Do you have a...dont know, professional profile? 14:31 caroline Freddy_Enrique: go ahead! 14:30 caroline I'd love library staff to be able to tweak their own record display 14:30 * Freddy_Enrique want to ask something... 14:30 caroline Has anyone ever worked on a project to make editing the xslt easy for end users? (My colleagues laugh at me when I mention this) 14:28 caroline hehe! 14:28 calire so glad I could help 14:27 calire aaah yes 14:27 calire aha 14:27 oleonard Oh wait, it was the OverduesBlockRenewing preference. Any overdue blocked all renewals. 14:27 calire (like when people ask questions on amazon and someone answers with 'I don't know, I didn't buy this') 14:26 * calire is helpful 14:26 calire oleonard: I feel like I have see that before, but I cannot remember why 14:26 oleonard Renew -- "Not allowed: overdue" ... but the item isn't overdue 14:25 oleonard This doesn't make sense to me: https://zivotdesign.com/p/view.php?p=15381445630198 14:25 calire caroline: the table is easy to read 14:24 caroline Hello Freddy_Enrique! 14:24 calire caroline: fair enough :) 14:24 caroline calire: I only talk to library staff through my job, I don't know if they speak only on behalf of themselves or if they're relaying complaints from their users 14:19 calire caroline, is it the library users or library staff (who are also users) who found the detail page hard to read? 14:18 calire accessibility is important 14:17 ashimema anywho.. moving on ;) 14:17 ashimema it used special fonts and various pastel contrasts 14:17 ashimema shame.. they nuked it at an upgrade whilst I was on other projects 14:17 ashimema but not eye bleeding 14:17 ashimema that was really nice and very accessible with options like that 14:16 ashimema I did a theme years ago for the dyslexia action group UK.. 14:16 Freddy_Enrique hi Caroline and ashimema 14:16 Freddy_Enrique Good morning all 14:16 ashimema that's the 'Make my eyes bleed' theme to the max ;) 14:16 ashimema hehe 14:16 calire black with yellow is I cannot deal with 14:15 oleonard That black with yellow text theme is bullying me. 14:15 ashimema 'default' and 'cream' are nice enough.. but the other two.. yuk 14:15 calire I appreciate what they are for 14:15 calire XD 14:14 ashimema you either love them or hate them.. eye's bleed at times in my opinion with some of those 14:14 calire yes I remember the screen options 14:14 ashimema though their themes are somewhat accessability minded 14:14 ashimema see 'Screen Options' on the right 14:13 ashimema calires former employers for example: https://ual-test-upgrade.koha-ptfs.co.uk/ 14:13 ashimema we have done simlar for customers a few times 14:13 caroline Is this something we could include in a future version? 14:12 caroline (I don't include myself in that "we", it's just my colleagues) 14:12 calire ashimema, yes a dark mode was requested at the hackfest in Portland ;) 14:11 caroline We have a lot of complaints for the look of the details, that they are hard to read. We added custom CSS to make it into a table http://santecom-test.hapax.inlibro.net/cgi-bin/koha/opac-detail.pl?biblionumber=86331&query_desc=kw%2Cwrdl%3A%20cancer 14:11 ashimema you asked for feedback.. added a future enhancement request after JD's comment ;) 14:10 magnuse +1 14:10 calire :) 14:08 ashimema I approve 14:08 ashimema yup, very nice 14:07 caroline Such an upgrade from the grey/black 14:07 calire thanks caroline :) 14:07 caroline Ooh! Love the new look calire and oleonard! 14:02 calire oh good, it came through XD 14:02 oleonard You did a good email 14:01 calire (what I do?) 14:01 * calire bows 14:00 oleonard calire++ 14:00 magnuse hm. shouldn't items.datelastseen always be the same as or more recent than items.datelastborrowed? 13:58 ashimema awesome to see jajm moving it forward 13:58 ashimema I added that as a topic for the next dev meeting :) 13:58 ashimema nice :) 13:57 magnuse jajm++ 13:57 magnuse lulz 13:57 magnuse star wars? 13:55 cait1 https://wiki.koha-community.org/w/index.php?title=Commit_messages&curid=2270&diff=22041&oldid=20964 13:54 ashimema huh 13:54 cait1 jajm++ 13:54 * cait1 loves the star wars example 13:31 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20996 normal, P5 - low, ---, andrew.isherwood, Signed Off , Fix API response time on ILL request endpoint 13:31 * magnuse hopes he got the patches on bug 20996 right now 13:20 cait1 lol 13:16 ashimema haha 13:15 caroline LOL 13:15 oleonard Thanks-to: The prince of darkness for being very supportive 13:14 caroline POD: prince of darkness? payable on death? https://www.abbreviations.com/POD 13:13 cait1 brb 13:12 ashimema ok 13:12 cait1 people might not know what POD is, i get asked often 13:11 cait1 ashimema: it#s ok, but maybe bit cryptic to reference the POD? 13:11 jajm oleonard, :) 13:10 AndrewIsh cait1: Apparently so :-D 13:10 ashimema that's where I've entered it ;) 13:10 cait1 ashimema: :P 13:10 cait1 AndrewIsh: we got a date on Friday, right? :) 13:10 ashimema on the left.. I thought it was on the right 13:10 cait1 sorry, reading now 13:10 AndrewIsh magnuse++ 13:10 cait1 oh you did 13:10 cait1 there is this bugzilla input on the left, did you see? 13:10 magnuse AndrewIsh++ 13:10 cait1 hm? 13:09 ashimema how does that look for release notes cait1 13:04 cait1 lol 13:03 oleonard jajm++ # Thanks-to: The Rebellion for being very supportive 13:00 * cait1 sends fridolin cookies 12:50 calire hi caroline 12:46 caroline Good morning! 12:20 cait1 hm maybe if it'sill not numeric... but still a database value so shoudl be ok 12:20 cait1 and it would be something like [% IF ( request.orderid ) %] ... [% ELSE %] ... instead 12:20 ashimema indeed 12:20 cait1 my guess it.... it's probably a bad idea doing that 12:19 cait1 but n/a = not available is not he same in every language 12:19 cait1 it's numeric and a database value 12:19 cait1 oderid is not hte problem 12:17 ashimema I can't remember is orderid is numeric or a string to be honest either 12:16 ashimema I have no idea 12:16 * ashimema cries at magnuse asking that 12:16 * kidclamp waves 12:10 cait1 no idea, but that's a really good question 12:10 cait1 magnuse: hah! 12:05 magnuse is the N/A in [% (request.orderid || "N/A") | html %] translateable? 11:58 oleonard Duplicate ID at /usr/share/perl5/Exception/Class/Base.pm line 73 11:58 oleonard Maybe I spoke too soon... getting an error that looks like it might be a data problem 11:43 cait1 oleonard: share your tricks? :) 11:39 AndrewIsh oleonard++ 11:39 ashimema awesome 11:38 * oleonard loaded a bunch of dummy ILL data into his test system and feels empowered to test 11:38 ashimema I'm hopeing I can add tests as late followups.. save the lack of tests holding back QA 11:37 * ashimema wonders about mocking backends.. that could work 11:37 ashimema hmm.. 11:37 ashimema as a side note.. anyone got any opinions on how I can write tests for these enhancements to ILL.. even once we've moved backends to Plugins ILL isn't testable without at least one backend installed.. or I suppose Mocked 11:37 AndrewIsh Heh heh, oleonard made the mistake of raising his head above the parapet with regards to ILL recently. Also, magnuse might be interested in taking a look? 11:37 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20640 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Needs Signoff , Allow migrating a request between backends 11:37 andreashm bug 20640 11:36 ashimema it's a lovely enhancement in my opinion.. but rebasing it each time screws with my brain (and andrewish's) 11:35 ashimema AndrewIsh: said you were keen at some point? 11:35 ashimema I just rebased 20640 again for you.. hopefully you might have a moment to test it again :) 11:34 ashimema yeay, oleonard :) 11:34 ashimema cheers 11:31 eythian hi oleopard 11:30 oleonard Hi all 11:07 cait1 agree with paxed 11:05 cait1 back 11:01 paxed ashimema: i think that's valid, but putting it like [% (request.orderid || "N/A") | html %] might make it clearer? 10:58 ashimema it's not oleonard awake time yet is it? 10:36 ashimema it doesn't look right to me.. but I can't put my finger on it. 10:36 ashimema `[% request.orderid || "N/A" | html %]` 10:36 ashimema I've got this code in a rebase 10:36 ashimema anyone here especially good with TT filters and how they apply? 10:36 ashimema erm 09:49 andreashm ah, thanks 09:48 calire .net 09:48 calire then just freenode.not 09:48 cait1 might be our firewall 09:48 * andreashm usually uses the web-chat for irc 09:47 calire I got in through the web browser, but couldn't make pidgin accept it 09:47 andreashm calire: I was wondering the same. 09:45 calire how do I get on the freenode channel -.- 09:43 andreashm matts++ 09:42 * andreashm should join there first I guess 09:41 matts But if you all join the freenode chan, it can become a thing :) 09:41 * andreashm likes slack. should we start one? =) 09:41 calire andreashm I had been wondering the same thing 09:40 matts andreashm, there's a #coral-erm chan on freenode, but it's not really used. So I'd stick with the mailing lists or git for the moment. 09:39 andreashm A bit off topic, and not Koha related, but is there any space (slack, irc or other?) for more informal Coral discussions, other that github and the Coral mailinglists? ping matts calire paul_p 09:16 andreashm thanks ashimema 09:14 ashimema https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/showdependencygraph.cgi?id=8446 09:14 ashimema add 19625 to that list above.. i've just QA'd it 09:07 andreashm thanks matts 09:06 andreashm both would be great for us. keep at it! =) 09:06 cait1 and i think something about provisioning/sync, ashimema? 09:06 matts andreashm, yep, there's stuff happening on 18506 18507 and 12027 09:06 cait1 there is also shibboelth for staff in the works 09:06 cait1 andreashm: working on a resolve for the 'shibboleth under plack' problem 09:05 ashimema jajm has been doing a marvelous job of working through the list :) 09:04 * andreashm could search Bugzilla, but is lazy 09:04 andreashm is there one or more shib bugs being worked on? 09:01 matts sure :) 09:00 ashimema matts: thanks for the shib comments.. I think they're really helping move this one forward.. combined front and all that.. I'm happy the questions are being asked but also happy to see your in agreement with me on the answers :) 08:51 cait1 i haven't checked it out, but i hope from your comments 08:49 ashimema exactly 08:49 marcelr if we are doing it wrong, lets do it in one spot 08:49 ashimema indeed 08:49 marcelr more consistency 08:49 ashimema I'm not sure I like some of the fundamentals.. but it's a step in the right direction I think 08:48 ashimema still.. hopefully it'll result in a consistent patch 08:48 marcelr still working on it ashimema 08:48 ashimema it was a hard slog when I started looking at it.. think it's changed qa hands a few times now.. with each of us spotting bits the last person didn't 08:48 calire naughty :D 08:47 ashimema hows 18736 going marcelr 08:44 ashimema oops 08:44 ashimema sorry.. just been called into my meeting.. I'm 10 mins late 08:44 ashimema indeed 08:43 marcelr design choices 08:43 marcelr which is hard in open source 08:43 cait1 hm? 08:43 marcelr it is also a matter of making a choice and keeping with it.. 08:42 marcelr thats a point 08:42 cait1 maybe we should not make display and calculation the same thing? 08:42 marcelr a lot of time was spent on 18736 already 08:41 cait1 :) 08:41 cait1 all iwanted was a comma heh 08:41 marcelr no sprintfs in scripts 08:41 marcelr 18736 uses a module 08:41 cait1 opposed to doing tax calcuations and then add up 08:41 marcelr cait1, ashimema i think 21427 should wait for 18736 first 08:40 cait1 adding up db values shoudl work ok 08:40 cait1 because the values from the db are usually ok, we add up without doing tax calculations and stuff like that 08:40 cait1 ashimema: my thing is i think adding them up exatly will probably work 08:39 cait1 i am a little lost there right now 08:39 marcelr heh i am on 18736 now 08:38 ashimema this is the same issue effectively 08:38 ashimema we need kidclamp to weight in as he's been working on the rounding errors bug 08:38 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18736 critical, P5 - low, ---, nick, BLOCKED , Problems in order calculations (rounding errors) 08:38 marcelr jajm: i want to switch to signed on bug 18736 08:38 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=21427 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, In Discussion , Format prices on ordered/spent lists 08:38 ashimema sorry cait.. I'm really not helping move bug 21427 forward am I 08:37 jajm hi andreashm 08:37 matts andreashm, around indeed. 08:36 andreashm matts: around? 08:36 andreashm hi cait jajm 08:35 jajm marcelr, yes 08:34 * cait1 waves back 08:34 * andreashm waves 08:25 marcelr cast(-2 as unsigned) == 18446744073709551614 08:25 marcelr jajm around 08:24 ashimema right.. on that note I best get this ES demo setup.. gotta try and sell ES to the company next week.. well.. gotta sell it to myself first ;) 08:22 ashimema actually, it was my shorted lived email address ever 08:22 marcelr but passwords stay longer 08:22 ashimema the email address in question is long gone 08:22 ashimema haha 08:21 marcelr hope you didnt change it to ashimema23 08:21 ashimema yup 08:21 ashimema hehe 08:21 marcelr public domain now 08:21 marcelr ashimema: you revealed the secret 08:19 magnuse hehe, cool 08:18 ashimema wow.. 20 or so years ago now 08:18 ashimema ashimema was born 08:18 ashimema haha.. I didn't come up with mine.. my original ISP did.. it was the password they gave me for my vrey first email address.. of course I changed it immediatly but the random set of character sounded cool so it stuck in my head 08:17 * magnuse lacks the imagination to come up with mysterious nicks 07:53 ashimema hehe 07:53 marcelr right 07:53 dcook ashimema does seem a bit mysterious 07:52 dcook heh 07:52 marcelr and others too 07:52 ashimema i contemplated mrr or martinr.. but ashimema has more mistique to him 07:52 dcook Boo 07:50 marcelr kaef? 07:50 cait1 i couldn't reserve it and someone kept taking it 07:48 cait1 that's because oftc doesn't like 2 character nicks 07:44 * dcook hasn't seen kf in a loooong time 07:43 paxed cait1: yes, the automatic sql report conversion isn't very good, most of our reports also failed 07:42 marcelr what is fun? 07:42 ashimema Hehe 07:42 ashimema Lots of code archaeology the last few days with people resurrecting patches.. has been fun 07:41 marcelr o did i write it? 07:41 marcelr i saw that code before :) 07:40 ashimema Crazy isn't it 07:39 cait1 was thinking the same abotu my database updte for granular admin permissions this morning 07:39 ashimema I only wrote this patch a few months ago.. it's like another language now 07:39 * ashimema is amazed at how quickly code becomes foreign to him... 07:37 ashimema I like cait in all her guises 07:37 ashimema lol 07:37 cait1 like seriously 07:37 cait1 i once had someone explaint o me they liked cait more than kf 07:35 ashimema hahaha 07:35 ashimema every now and then that cait2 comes along.. she's a deadkill.. always failing qa on my patches 07:34 ashimema and is working to get shibboleth through :) 07:34 ashimema right now I like cait1.. she talked to me lots yesterday :) 07:34 ashimema hehe 07:34 cait1 who is nicer? 07:34 cait1 oh 07:33 ashimema split personalities are rarely aware of each other as far as I'm aware ;) 07:33 ashimema hehe 07:32 cait1 i don't notice being different people 07:32 ashimema I forget what time of day she metamorphises 07:32 cait1 hm 07:32 cait1 just wondering if you had a question 07:32 ashimema or is it now cait 07:32 ashimema cait1 07:29 dcook cait1: yep still here for 30 minutes 07:28 * dcook perks up at mention of his name 07:23 cait1 biblio_metadata 07:23 cait1 looks like the automatic conversion of sql fails for all our reports :( 07:22 magnuse cait++ 07:21 cait1 trying to unravel the shibboleth mess 07:21 matts cait1, sure thing. 07:21 cait1 matts: can you please comment that? 07:20 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17776 normal, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Failed QA , Shibboleth Authentication is broken in plack 07:20 matts hi cait1. I still stand by my sign-off on bug 17776. And I completely agree with ashimema 's last comment. However, I'm not a system administrator, and this is a system issue. 07:20 marcelr it should fix that one too 07:20 cait1 do we need the same fix for location btw? 07:20 magnuse \o/ 07:20 cait1 i was hoping to see it finally fixed 07:20 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10382 critical, P5 - low, ---, alex.arnaud, Needs Signoff , collection not returning to null when removed from course reserves 07:20 cait1 bug 10382 07:19 marcelr cait1: 10382 remains a hard one 07:19 tuxayo o/ calire marcelr 07:18 marcelr hi tuxayo 07:18 calire hi tuxayo 07:15 tuxayo hi #koha o/ 07:13 cait1 analytics 07:13 cait1 393346 results that are anyltics 07:12 cait1 [off] https://bbf.bsz-bw.de/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?q=bib-level%3Aa 07:12 paxed okay... 07:12 cait1 it's in the 773 07:12 paxed cait1: like you said, the issue level is missing from between. how do they know which issue contains which article? 07:10 cait1 a huge part of what they do is creating those records, adding subjects to them etc. 07:09 cait1 we also have a library who provides data for a database of their field 07:09 cait1 you need to have the staff to do it 07:09 paxed cait1: ah. still seems weird, imo. 07:09 cait1 dcook: still around? 07:08 cait1 we have libraries where a large percentage of the total records are analytics 07:08 cait1 for example the law libraries do that, they have divided up which library does which serials 07:08 cait1 paxed: special libraries, academics... not publics 07:07 paxed cait1: seriously, you have articles from serials as component records? that's ... 07:04 calire o/ :) 07:03 reiveune hi calire 07:03 matts hi calire :) 07:03 calire hi matts, hi reiveune 06:55 matts hi! 06:46 reiveune hello 06:38 huginn dcook: The operation succeeded. 06:38 dcook @later tell cait1 I'd love to hear about your experience with the loc for call numbers. I'm using ddc but I feel like a dependency issue makes sense 06:37 dcook d'oh 06:37 dcook cait1: oooo that's really interesting and explains why I was struggling to find Koha code for generating the values 06:37 cait1 at least i know for sure loc is as we recently had to fix a wrong configuration 06:36 cait1 bbiab 06:36 cait1 dcook: we haven't touched the cn_sort code in forever - depending on what you use maybe the dependency was updated? i think ddc/loc modules for generating the sorting are external libraries 06:30 calire hey marcelr 06:29 marcelr hi calire 06:27 calire hey dcook 06:22 dcook Sounds good. Nice catching you 06:22 ashimema Haha, fun 06:22 dcook I guess I could handle that with runtime options though.. 06:22 ashimema Right, time to do some breakfast..catch you another time 06:22 dcook Sometimes I'd want a minimal database and sometimes I'd want one with like... a 100+GB database 06:21 dcook Although that one... 06:21 dcook I have 1 project that requires a VM at the moment, but I spent some time Dockerizing it yesterday 06:21 dcook I've been thinking since January how I wanted to Dockerize more of my development and testing 06:21 dcook I really like it 06:21 ashimema Yeah 06:21 dcook heh 06:21 ashimema Haha 06:21 ashimema I should investing koha-testing-docker again really 06:20 dcook I'm actually really liking koha-testing-docker these days 06:20 dcook Yeah, I'm keen to do the Marseille hackfest too in 2019.. 06:20 * dcook waves to calire too 06:20 dcook Actually, at home we do have fibre but we just pay for a really low speed plan... 06:20 ashimema The Marseille hackfest tends to be the main place I revert to local dev 06:20 calire mornin #koha 06:19 dcook The guest wifi was a million times better than home internet in Australia >_< 06:19 ashimema Mmm, for events like that it tends to be 06:19 dcook Actually, the wifi at Kohacon18 was pretty good 06:19 dcook salut :) 06:19 dcook Although at Kohacon it was essential 06:19 fridolin dcook: bonjour 06:19 dcook I know what you mean 06:19 ashimema I like deving on a remote server.. switching back to the local workflow would be a bit painfuk 06:19 * dcook waves to fridolin 06:19 dcook Just need to find time to fix the comments from QA.. 06:18 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10662 new feature, P3, ---, dcook, Failed QA , Build OAI-PMH Harvesting Client 06:18 ashimema Bug 10662 06:18 dcook Really restrictive for what I needed really 06:18 dcook Same 06:18 ashimema I tried gitify for a while but found it somewhat restrictive in the types of patches I could write and test 06:18 dcook I do like my dev install though heh 06:17 dcook I tried my test plan for 10662 at Kohacon with a kohadevbox and I was like "how the hell did I ever think this would work?" 06:17 ashimema I'm still running a good ol' Dev install 06:17 dcook I'm sure many of us do it that way 06:17 dcook Nice heh 06:17 ashimema Just read your post 06:16 dcook I was wondering about that lol, but I'm guessing it was related to that tweet? 06:16 dcook Heh 06:16 ashimema I Dev the same way as you dcook 06:12 ashimema Lol 05:53 marcelr success 05:53 dcook Thanks for the feedback, marcelr. I'll do as you suggest. 05:52 dcook And here I was thinking that Kohacon18 taught me to consider more workflows than just mine heh 05:52 dcook I forgot about that 05:52 dcook Mmm good point 05:51 marcelr they may not run from the web but on command line 05:51 dcook If there are a million or more items, I wonder if it might time out 05:51 marcelr if it must be done? 05:50 dcook I was thinking that, but I don't know if that would work for large libraries? 05:50 dcook touch_all_items.pl solves the data problem after the fact though it seems 05:50 marcelr adding a dbrev to update them now? 05:50 dcook I'm just struggling to find the exact code responsible for generating the value.. 05:50 dcook Basically, I think the method for generating items.cn_sort changed at some point but existing items weren't updated and it led to inconsistent values which causes a problem in the inventory item lists 05:49 marcelr yeah some advertizing might help 05:49 dcook I might email the list as well as it might be that people have experienced the same problem 05:49 dcook That makes sense 05:48 marcelr we only need patience 05:48 marcelr there will be (at some point) 05:47 dcook I certainly would appreciate another set of eyes on it as I'm not very familiar with the call number sorting code 05:46 dcook It might be that someone has a code idea as well 05:46 dcook Cool. I'll do that then. 05:46 marcelr yeah 05:46 dcook And then just do a "see also" for 19021? 05:46 marcelr datatables and parameters is horrible 05:45 dcook But still worth a new report? 05:45 dcook I don't have an alternate patch. Rather, I think it's a data issue. 05:45 dcook Yeah? 05:45 marcelr new report ? 05:45 dcook But it's already pushed 05:44 dcook And while the patch works... I don't know that it's the right solution? 05:44 huginn Bug 19021: minor, P5 - low, ---, fridolin.somers, CLOSED FIXED, Inventory column sorting 05:44 dcook I had a problem in the inventory module and found https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19021 05:44 dcook Actually I have a QA question... 05:43 dcook Excellent 05:42 dcook lol 05:42 marcelr i left a few others for you :) 05:42 marcelr ok 05:42 huginn Bug 19190: trivial, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, RESOLVED FIXED, Silly calculation of average time in touch_all scripts 05:42 dcook https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19190 05:42 marcelr a fix? 05:41 dcook heh I was just about to write a fix but saw you already did it last year, marcelr 05:40 marcelr hi dcook cait1 05:40 dcook hey marcelr and cait1 05:37 marcelr hi #koha