Time Nick Message 23:57 mtompset In the case of Email to SMS... that would most definitely be the case. 23:57 mtompset "The send_sms returns true if the message was sent, or the driver is fire-and-forget and unable to determine success, or false if the message was not sent." 23:57 mtompset ^drive^driver^ 23:56 mtompset If the drive just returns true on success, there is no way for Koha to know. 23:56 mtompset According the the CPAN page of Send::SMS (which is what I think we use).... 23:54 alexbuckley any thoughts? 23:54 alexbuckley i.e. the patrons don't recieve the sms messages. the client would like to be able to edit 'borrower restrictions' in the batch borrower mod tool, but we were thinking that being able to automatically place a restriction on a borrower if their sms fails sending outside of Koha would also be useful 23:52 alexbuckley i.e. we have a client who had approx. 300 sms messages sent a month to users because their number is no longerin use or they have given a false number 23:42 alexbuckley hi all, Just checking, I have been unable to find evidence of this. When a sms message is sent from Koha do we know when it fails at the sms gateway. i.e. Koha hands the message off if we have a valid sms number but if that fails to send outside of Koha do we know? 23:26 Joubu barton: people who raised the problem should share the file they staged 23:25 Joubu https://www.wikiwand.com/en/Decimal_calendar ? 23:14 mtompset Can someone give me a URL to information on that? 23:14 mtompset what is a base 10 greg? 22:25 wizzyrea allrighty 22:24 Joubu wizzyrea: yep, sounds good 22:12 wizzyrea bye thanks for engaging our questions :) 22:11 caroline_ bye all! 22:10 wizzyrea the default patterns in Koha are pretty sparse 22:09 wizzyrea thoughts? 22:09 wizzyrea (and irregularities are dealt to of course, if necessary) 22:08 wizzyrea ever. 22:08 wizzyrea and no setting back 22:08 wizzyrea it just adds 7 days, always 22:08 wizzyrea if we use that one 22:08 wizzyrea you don't get the advanced option for day/date 22:08 wizzyrea but making it so that when you pick it 22:08 wizzyrea Joubu, I think we're coming around to your way of adding a numbering pattern 21:58 wizzyrea "Simple prediction patterns" 21:58 wizzyrea or um, aside this system, like the advanced cataloguing interface 21:57 wizzyrea the other option is to ditch this weird ass system altogether, and make it work like the holidays do :P 21:57 caroline_ just making it more visual would help a lot 21:56 wizzyrea i'd like more "i'm just gonna handle it" from Koha serial predictions, actually :P 21:55 wizzyrea it's just gonna do the biz 21:55 caroline_ I don't know about the checkbox, but I like the calendar idea. It would also solve my problem with 1st and 15th of the month 21:55 wizzyrea for rotating 21:55 wizzyrea and you don't get the options 21:55 wizzyrea there's a tickbox "use for day" 21:55 wizzyrea and a tick box on the column that will be the day, so like, if you wanted to use x column for day 21:55 wizzyrea and put those values into the relevant boxen 21:54 wizzyrea and then show a calendar picker for "starting on day" so they can see it 21:54 wizzyrea [] on a specific day 21:54 wizzyrea we were thinking maybe a tickbox when you choose 1/week 21:52 Joubu we could have patterns in the "Numbering formula", like the ones used by strftime, "%d/%m" would display 19/10 21:47 caroline_ yes how to present it so it makes sense in the logic 21:47 wizzyrea (the interface) 21:47 wizzyrea because it's almost too flexible 21:47 wizzyrea but just, how to express it in the interface 21:47 wizzyrea haha 21:47 wizzyrea we've kind of decided that it needs fixing 21:47 caroline_ I'll ask my colleagues who have more math brains than I do to think about it 21:46 wizzyrea ^.^ 21:46 caroline_ I like your expression "math our way out" :D 21:46 wizzyrea I don't see a way to math our way out of that 21:46 wizzyrea because "set back to 1 every 31 days" 21:45 wizzyrea so we have people wanting 4 Oct 2018 and it calculates the 1st 21:45 Joubu ha :-/ 21:45 wizzyrea yeah it's not about the day name so much, but the date 21:44 caroline_ But since sept doesn't have 31 days, the count is all messed up 21:44 caroline_ so like 24 sept, 1 october, etc. 21:44 caroline_ Joubu, the "Monday" needs to be the date of the monday 21:43 Joubu wizzyrea: not sure I understoof the need correctly, but I tried that: https://snag.gy/NoI21w.jpg 21:41 wizzyrea that would be nice 21:41 wizzyrea hehe yes 21:40 caroline_ 10-day week (5 work days and 5 weekends), wouldn't that be great? 21:39 caroline_ our calendar system is weird, ever heard of base 10 greg? 21:38 wizzyrea maybe they think it just won't get fixed :P 21:38 wizzyrea bit gobsmacked that librarians aren't complaining VERY LOUDLY about how annoying that is. 21:38 wizzyrea stuff everybody has :P 21:38 wizzyrea you know 21:38 wizzyrea it's like, Time. Newsweek. Entertainment Weekly 21:37 wizzyrea they're not weird actually 21:37 wizzyrea for these weird day ones 21:37 wizzyrea and that sets the pattern 21:37 wizzyrea where it's like "this subscription repeats weekly on Monday" so you click monday, specify repeating 21:37 wizzyrea the holiday calendar 21:37 wizzyrea Yeah we were thinking also possibly something like 21:36 caroline_ It doesn't really fit in the current logic so it's hard to imagine something 21:34 wizzyrea Starting on <date> 21:34 wizzyrea "weekly, on <specified day>" 21:33 wizzyrea yeah I was thinking something like 21:33 caroline_ I have trouble imagining it actually, maybe under "formatting" there could be another option for days of the month 21:32 wizzyrea hehe yeah that's what we're talking about, how to present that as an option, how it would work, etc 21:22 caroline_ Other option is coding something that takes into account month lengths and leap years 21:22 wizzyrea it's seeming like theres something to fix 21:22 wizzyrea so we're trying to find out if it's just that their patterning is wrong, or if there's something to fix :D 21:22 caroline_ I totally get it... 21:21 wizzyrea yeah we have someone who doesn't want to do that ^.^ 21:20 caroline_ I think you'll have to correct it manually 21:19 caroline_ I can't say it's two weeks (14 days) or 15 days (doesn't work with months which don't have 30 days) 21:18 caroline_ I have a similar problem with a serial that comes only on the 1st and the 15th 21:18 caroline_ yeah I don't think it's possible 21:18 wizzyrea but we feel a bit weird that no one else has noticed it? 21:18 wizzyrea what we want to do here isn't possible 21:17 wizzyrea we are kiiiind of thinking that actually 21:17 caroline_ ooh 21:17 wizzyrea they are regular, they come every monday, every 7 days 21:17 caroline_ So they aren't regular? 21:16 wizzyrea pubdates it gets right 21:16 wizzyrea not for the pubdate, for the Number 21:16 wizzyrea Koha is going to start that issue with 1 Oct 21:16 wizzyrea let's say that you're supposed to get an issue on 3 Oct 21:16 wizzyrea ok but 21:15 caroline_ I think you have to assume that all months have 31 days, and then check as "unpublished" the 31 of the months that don't have one 21:14 wizzyrea doesn't work 21:14 wizzyrea but the days are not going, the logic of "add 7 every 1 week when days less than 31" 21:14 wizzyrea we can get the year and month to go ok 21:14 wizzyrea 2018 January 7 21:14 wizzyrea for example, a serial that has a text pattern of 21:13 caroline_ wizzyrea: how do you mean? (examples?) 21:11 wizzyrea or anyone who has tried to get a prediction pattern to work for "year, month, day" 21:10 wizzyrea cait about? 20:58 Joubu in a far future maybe :) 20:58 Joubu nope 20:45 Infra_3600 hello all. will koha migrate to perl6 in the future? 20:42 Joubu hola tcohen, bag! 20:33 bag heya Joubu 20:32 tcohen wb! 20:32 tcohen hola Joubu! 20:13 Joubu hi #koha 18:56 oleonard bye #koha 18:56 oleonard I'll try to take another look tomorrow mtompset 18:54 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13272 trivial, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Many inputs lack a type attribute 18:54 mtompset oleonard, sorry for failing to run the koha qa test tools. Patch submitted to bug 13272. :) 18:46 mtompset I vaguely recall and Accountoffset and AccountOffset issue that reared its ugly head on Windoze. 18:45 oleonard The schema error? It's working after a second try 18:45 mtompset oleonard, oh no! Is this the case sensitivity bug again? 18:44 mtompset Greetings, tcohen 18:43 oleonard Hi cait! 18:31 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=16881 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, alex.arnaud, Needs Signoff , Apply KohaTable and ColVis plugin on MARCdetail's items table 18:31 oleonard Hm, caused by testing Bug 16881? I don't know. I seemed to have been able to roll it back. 18:27 pastebot "oleonard" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Anyone know what to do about this error?" (2 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/76 17:54 tcohen hi mtompset 16:50 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13272 trivial, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Many inputs lack a type attribute 16:50 mtompset bug 13272 is available for testing now. I hadn't more than eyeball skimmed it before. :) 16:40 oleonard I would be happy to test, mtompset 16:39 mtompset If I fix up 13272, will you sign it off, oleonard? 16:38 huginn` mtompset: CrispyBran was last seen in #koha 2 days, 22 hours, 55 minutes, and 45 seconds ago: * CrispyBran is trying to look somewhat entelyjint next to kidclamp 16:38 mtompset @seen CrispyBran 16:36 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13272 trivial, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Failed QA , Many inputs lack a type attribute 16:36 mtompset BTW, thanks for the current best practices comment on bug 13272 16:35 oleonard No I'm a softcore Apple user. 16:33 mtompset I thought you were a hardcore Apple user. 16:32 * mtompset is shocked. 16:29 oleonard Only sometimes mtompset. Usually Windows. 16:28 mtompset Don't you use a Mac, oleonard? 16:28 mtompset oleonard, unless you've messed your system up some other way. :) 16:27 mtompset Okay... I guess you didn't see my you should blame caching. :) 16:19 mtompset Nah, oleonard. Blame caching, it's fun. Try it, "It's all the memcached, L1 cache, L2 cache, Plack and other caching messes fault." 16:09 * oleonard is sure he's done something stupid to mess up his test system 16:09 oleonard AndrewIsh++ 16:08 oleonard Thanks AndrewIsh! 16:08 AndrewIsh oleonard: I've got to disappear now I'm afraid, sorry! I'm pretty sure it must be a local problem, I've not seen this anywhere else and we've got a number of customers using it. Drop any additional info in here though and I'll take a look tomorrow :) 16:06 ajackslib thank you- I have a class- you have all been helpful 16:04 AndrewIsh oleonard: A quick test would be going to /api/v1/cities in your browser 16:03 caroline_ ajackslib: I guess start by googling how to set up a vm 16:03 mtompset Is this Koha going to be production? 16:02 ajackslib yes at least for koha :) 16:02 mtompset -- at least for Koha, yes. :) 16:01 ajackslib i need to become my own tech guy 16:01 ajackslib he probally didn't- but I can't wait on him. 16:00 mtompset ajackslib, Dyrcona is right, I seriously doubted the tech guy even came to the IRC channel. 16:00 ajackslib if i can get the answer or get someone to help walk me through it, i might be able to figure it out 15:59 AndrewIsh oleonard: Are other REST API endpoints working? 15:59 ajackslib mtompset do you know of any where or one else that in Koha that couldbe of help to me? 15:57 mtompset But seriously, test with and without plack. :) 15:57 * mtompset grins evilly, "Turn off plack." 15:56 oleonard Yes I do. 15:56 AndrewIsh oleonard: Given it's master, there's no reason why you wouldn't, but I'm clutching at straws 15:55 AndrewIsh oleonard: Do you have this? https://github.com/PTFS-Europe/koha/blob/master/api/v1/swagger/paths.json#L35-L37 15:55 * mtompset liked Candi -- plus it's Canadian content. :) 15:53 mtompset It's "Under [My] Spell"... 15:53 * mtompset laughs. 15:51 caroline_ youtube is now playing only 80's music, I have to get out of the loop! :O 15:51 oleonard Yes 15:50 AndrewIsh oleonard: This is master? 15:50 ajackslib he is a volunteer tech person and only comes around when it works for his schedule :( 15:50 AndrewIsh oleonard: That is exceedingly odd, I've never seen it do that. I'll have a ponder, one moment 15:50 caroline_ yes that's the one I was looking for 15:50 mtompset my_desired_username --password somethinglongandcomplicated" 15:50 mtompset "/usr/share/koha/bin/devel/create_superlibrarian.pl --userid 15:50 mtompset sudo koha-shell instance -c 15:49 mtompset wait... 15:49 Dyrcona ajackslib: You should probably get the tech guy in here. 15:49 ajackslib it is very frustrating 15:49 ajackslib because the tech guy and I are the only two people who have admin access. And my access is suppose to be able to do anything with the system 15:48 caroline_ ajackslib: I'm trying to fing the name of the script, pretty sure there is one that does it 15:48 oleonard AndrewIsh: That is, the call to /api/v1/illrequests?embed=metadata,patron,capabilities,library returns a 404 15:48 mtompset on the VM: login: {username} password: {password} $ sudo koha-shell {name of instance} 15:48 AndrewIsh oleonard: That's a new one on me, so it's making the API call but it's returning a 404? 15:47 ajackslib caroline_ what is the shell you are talking about? 15:47 mtompset caroline_, as the instance he created. 15:47 oleonard Any idea what's going on? 15:47 oleonard AndrewIsh: I've added some test data to my system to try to test ILL stuff but the list of ILL requests is coming up empty. The developer console says that the call to the ILl requests API isn't found 15:46 caroline_ ajackslib: you'll have to buy your tech guy a nice bottle of wine and ask him to run the script to create a superlibrarian 15:46 wahanui hi oleopard 15:46 AndrewIsh Hi oleonard 15:45 oleonard AndrewIsh around? 15:45 ajackslib sorry got called away for a minute 15:45 mtompset https://youtu.be/HKdj_olSKhU 15:45 mtompset 80's musical flashback.... 15:44 * mtompset sighs, "And this is why I made no promises." 15:43 mtompset A new VM will need to use that MAC address, but you can't have both VM's running at the same time, or network hell opens up and swallows you. 15:42 mtompset the tech guy may have linked the MAC address to the IP address, so DHCP always gives it that IP address. 15:42 mtompset also... 15:42 mtompset hence the painful, try to save all the data and create from scratch. 15:41 caroline_ right... and with no access to the shell, you can't do much 15:41 mtompset Shell access to create a superlibrarian would be the easiest method, but ajackslib doesn't have shell access. 15:41 mtompset caroline_, my understanding is that because ajackslib's user is not a superlibrarian, only certain portions of the staff client are accessible. 15:40 caroline_ the regular koha staff interface 15:40 caroline_ and you can't access the interface, is that what I understand? 15:40 mtompset caroline_, Yes, that is what I would recommend, but if ajackslib is unfamiliar with vbox, then they will need help walking through the installation process. 15:39 caroline_ could you export all the users and biblio records, reinstall, and import back the data? 15:39 mtompset And I don't have time to walk you through setting up a VM all on your own. 15:38 mtompset If you can't get shell access, you can't find or fix the problem. 15:37 mtompset *sigh* 15:36 ajackslib *catalog 15:36 ajackslib staff,student and teacher names and a catolog of my inventory 15:35 mtompset is there any meaningful data in your koha? 15:35 ajackslib he claims he has done all he could do 15:34 ajackslib not sure the tech guy that helps out at the school has never given me access to the vbox info but also refuses to help me figure out the problems 15:34 mtompset do you have shell command access to vbox? 15:33 mtompset virtualized. 15:33 ajackslib i have to open vbox 15:33 mtompset Do you have to run virtualbox, or some other software first before clicking your koha link? 15:33 ajackslib it is not a seperate server 15:32 ajackslib how would i tell if it is in a virtualized environment? 15:32 mtompset or is it on a separate server accessible by the mac? 15:32 mtompset or is it in a virtualized environment on the mac? 15:32 ajackslib yes 15:32 mtompset So is the koha ON the mac? 15:31 ajackslib right 15:31 mtompset Okay... it upgraded, and then you discovered you don't have the permissions you thought. :) 15:31 mtompset AH! 15:31 mtompset that isn't a descriptive enough solution. 15:30 ajackslib the Koha system will not allow me to things that as the admin i should be able to do 15:30 ajackslib done that and it still doesnt work right like the update is incomplete or something 15:29 mtompset Okay, so log in... it will upgrade. 15:28 ajackslib yes 15:28 mtompset okay... do you know the system username and password? 15:27 mtompset If you only see a login screen, you are in the correct place. 15:27 ajackslib staff client 15:27 mtompset Staff client has a login screen. 15:27 mtompset OPAC has a pretty search bar. 15:27 ajackslib where would I find out if it is OPAC or staff client 15:26 ajackslib 172.16.51.205:8080/cgi-bin/koha 15:26 mtompset the OPAC or staff client? 15:25 mtompset what url are you using? 15:25 ajackslib koha 15:25 mtompset which system? koha or your mac? 15:25 reiveune bye 15:24 ajackslib okay, first issue is my system says he needs updating but it will not download. I was wondering if uninstall and reinstall the new version if that would be the best way around the issue? 15:23 mtompset Okay... they installed koha on the mac, or accessible to the mac? 15:23 mtompset Let's hypothetically ignore the mac part... describe the issue. :) 15:22 ajackslib was not here when the install was done 15:22 mtompset Oh... and that's another reason I said no guaranteed answers. :) 15:22 mtompset What did you install on? 15:22 ajackslib i was wondering if anyone else is a mac user? i am and my questions stem from that 15:21 mtompset How did you install? 15:21 * mtompset refuses to promise fixes. :) 15:21 ajackslib great, I am having major issues. 15:21 mtompset Help with questions, yes. Guaranteed answers, nope. :) 15:21 caroline_ ajackslib: yes, you're at the right place 15:20 ajackslib can i get help with a few question about my Koha system from this channel 15:19 bag khall++ 15:19 khall np! 15:19 mtompset Thanks, bag khall :) 15:19 khall I'll add a note at the very least, should be fixeable though! 15:19 mtompset Yes. That seems to be the problem. 15:19 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=21340 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Signed Off , Add spans with classes around callnumbers in OPAC for additional styling 15:19 mtompset bug 21340 was probably another. 15:19 khall right? 15:18 khall ah right, so the patches get signed off, but the status doesn't change 15:18 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15139 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Signed Off , Show non-public item note in overdues report 15:18 mtompset bug 15139 was one of them... 15:17 mtompset As a bug I had looked at hit that problem, so I expanded my search to that. :) 15:17 mtompset I was hunting bugzilla for "ByWater Sandboxes" Needs Signoff, and found some. :) 15:17 mtompset I wasn't doing signoffs with it. 15:16 khall mtompset: can you paste the output if there is any? 15:15 mtompset url? 15:15 bag or you can put something on the github for it mtompset 15:15 mtompset I just "rescued" some bugs from lack of sign off. :) 15:15 bag I sure do - it’s khall 15:15 mtompset Thought you might have an idea about who to bug about the ByWater Sandboxes not signing off properly. :) 15:14 bag hi 15:14 huginn` mtompset: bag was last seen in #koha 2 days, 21 hours, 54 minutes, and 25 seconds ago: <bag> good morning 15:14 mtompset @seen bag 15:14 mtompset Greetings, caroline_ :) 15:13 huginn` mtompset: kidclamp was last seen in #koha 35 minutes and 45 seconds ago: <kidclamp> np fridolin 15:13 mtompset @seen kidclamp 15:13 caroline_ Hello mtompset! 15:13 mtompset Greetings, #koha. 15:12 Guest752 Project Koha_Master_D8 build #52: SUCCESS in 34 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D8/52/ 15:11 Ekrama Sorry i am unable to share the link at once. But it was on 'spoken bombay iit tutorials' on koha installation. 15:10 Guest752 Project Koha_Master_U18 build #46: SUCCESS in 30 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U18/46/ 15:09 Guest752 Project Koha_Master_D9 build #558: SUCCESS in 30 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9/558/ 15:06 oleonard Can you share the link? 15:06 Ekrama I am following a tutorial on youtube. 15:05 oleonard Ekrama: What instructions are you following? Is it a page on the Koha wiki? 15:03 Ekrama Step 5.web installation. (gedit /etc/koha/sites/instancename/koha-conf.xml) 15:00 oleonard Ekrama: At what stage of installation are you encountering the problem? 14:57 Ekrama Hi,i am facing some difficulties to web installation of koha. Command with xml is showing reply that no directories. 14:42 oleonard josef_moravec: I hope you can come to a KohaCon or hackfest sometime 14:38 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 19833: Kill the "biblios" <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=5cf279aea0d2a2037adb26857119ee209825ef70> 14:38 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 19833: Kill all the "bibilos" - final couple <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=f35d22ab60b9020f2a4363e0a9afa4e92d065416> 14:38 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 19833: Changing the "biblios" - most of admin <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=6b8218ee2f6012975be5974a0b2c8e24a39f1a11> 14:38 kidclamp np fridolin 14:38 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 19833: Changing the "biblios" - most of reports <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a225cd1e0444014731abe974a686ff7b1ce50b12> 14:38 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 19833: Changing the "biblios" acqui <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=d5925f34b0028f563e10494dc2280b6c51a74745> 14:38 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 19833: Changing the "biblios" <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b9bbc4b32aa01dcac353faf8f6dcea8aad987bc4> 14:38 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 19833: (follow-up) Minor corrections <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=4681e01884f10ab1a6febfa6e888d9ff79939ae5> 14:38 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 20564: Don't use system to unzip files <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=8b806227c130e86712e3e5bda61520447c60671d> 14:38 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 7143: Update history to reflect recent point releases <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a302fc8d787b970d89fd1a31c36f9f3d881117ab> 14:38 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 19833: Bibliographic Record => Bibliographic record <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=361dd4f499468f5cdbd381dfd9f23484f1c71f7a> 14:38 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 13406: Add styling classes to authority MARC detail display <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=05e51e9574884f03034633dfef95e7e95ac0224e> 14:38 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 13406: (follow-up) Add styling classes to authority MARC detail display <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=65cbeae78c2ec7449efdaf6841826b7a70dac3c9> 14:38 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 7143: Update about page for new dev - Jane Sandberg <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a389c751cb5bd764bf486200a581f731b6d28cc7> 14:37 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 13406: (RM follow-up) Add missing filter <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a299ae3a84795431eaea96152c5347eb5091ba23> 14:37 fridolin kidclamp: sorry I was too buzy, see my email septembre release 14:33 kidclamp that sounds right 14:33 tcohen kidclamp: you can also set normalization rules for matching, right? 14:32 wahanui oleonard: i'm not following you... 14:32 oleonard wahanui: kidclamp has plenty of time for that now 14:32 tcohen kidclamp++ 14:32 wahanui kidclamp is probably getting the queue as clean as possible before Kohacon 14:32 tcohen kidclamp 14:31 oleonard kidclamp++ 14:31 kidclamp thanks all! 14:31 huginn` Log: http://meetings.koha-community.org/2018/https___wiki_koha_community_org_wiki_development_irc_meeting_19_september_2018.2018-09-19-14.03.log.html 14:31 huginn` Minutes (text): http://meetings.koha-community.org/2018/https___wiki_koha_community_org_wiki_development_irc_meeting_19_september_2018.2018-09-19-14.03.txt 14:31 huginn` Minutes: http://meetings.koha-community.org/2018/https___wiki_koha_community_org_wiki_development_irc_meeting_19_september_2018.2018-09-19-14.03.html 14:31 huginn` Meeting ended Wed Sep 19 14:31:22 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) 14:31 kidclamp #endmeeting 14:31 kidclamp #info Next meeting: 10 October 2018, 20 UTC 14:30 oleonard +1 14:30 thd +1 14:29 kidclamp October 10th, 20 UTC? (one extra week to not overlap with general) 14:29 thd Thanks for updating me. 14:28 kidclamp You can set threshhold and scores for matching thd, I think they work correctly 14:28 kidclamp #topic Set time of next meeting 14:27 thd Last time I looked matching values for record matching was an all or nothing with no provision for weighting but maybe that has changed. 14:27 ashimema Agrre 14:27 cc_ Looks like 15772 may need prodding 14:26 kidclamp I don't think we have anything for today 14:26 kidclamp #topic Review of coding guidelines 14:26 kidclamp cc_ if you find more relevant bugs or file one let me know 14:26 kidclamp thd - that's why everyone can make their own rules :-) 14:26 thd We should use the combination of ISBN 10 and 13 but with a low weight for ISBN. 14:25 ashimema But that's a side issue 14:25 ashimema Business::ISBN doesn't try to keep up with all valid isbns btw.. would could be shipping out own up to date XML config map file with koha to get it right more 14:25 thd I have not looked at the record matching code in a long time. Matching values precisely with or without ISBN is a fundamental mistake for record matching. 14:25 kidclamp moving on 14:24 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9500 normal, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, NEW , GetNormalizedISBN only ever checks the first populated ISBN field 14:24 kidclamp bug 9500 14:24 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15772 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , GetNormalizedISBN returns a 10 digit ISBN - should return 13 14:24 kidclamp bug 15772 14:23 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14287 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Failed QA , Preserve valid ISBN-13 identifiers if they start with something else than 978 14:23 kidclamp bug 14287 14:23 cc_ and for record matching 14:22 cc_ I'm certainly finding more and more using ISBN-13 we can generate 10 versions from it 14:22 kidclamp yes thd, not converting in record, but we 'normalize' to have a standard version to use when coding 14:22 thd ISBN is no longer a single value it is a multiplicity of values. 14:21 thd We need both ISBN 10 and ISBN 13. 14:21 thd ISBN 10 should not be "converted" to ISBN 13. 14:20 kidclamp i don't know if there are external sites we use that require 10 though 14:20 kidclamp cc_ makes sense, I think there are valid 13 digit that don't convert now? also I think we use Business::ISBN for all of that - has it been updated> 14:19 tcohen #info live new sandboxes: http://sb1.sandboxes.bywatersolutions.com/ 14:19 cc_ I was wondering - Koha.pm's normalize_isbn subroutine normalizes to 10 chars should we be looking at moving that to 13-digits in future? 14:19 kidclamp heh 14:19 kidclamp checkout the repo and submit issues-fixes 14:18 thd "suing docker" is best ;) 14:18 khall #info koha-sandboxes-docker https://github.com/bywatersolutions/koha-sandboxes-docker 14:18 tcohen #info koha-testing-docker https://gitlab.com/koha-community/koha-testing-docker 14:18 kidclamp our tools are getting better and easier :-) 14:18 khall #info Kyle M Hall, ByWater Solutions 14:18 kidclamp tomas is working on some fixes for kohadevbox 14:18 kidclamp kyle has been working on the new sandbox system suing docker - it was battle tested at kohacon and has omproved 14:17 * ashimema runs away 14:17 ashimema fix all the things 14:17 kidclamp anyone have something? 14:16 kidclamp #topic General development discussion (trends, ideas, ...) 14:15 oleonard QA++ 14:14 kidclamp they have been working hard, she will get her emails out again next week i believe - anyone else form QA have something to add? 14:14 kidclamp jk 14:14 kidclamp no cait - she says she loves all your patches, get them signed off and she will pass qa :-b 14:13 * ashimema has to run off on school pickup.. will watch from phone 14:13 ashimema done his too ;) 14:13 ashimema #info Next 17.11.x release scheduled for 26th 14:13 kidclamp #topic Updates from the QA team 14:13 ashimema didn't see Fridolin join.. so.. 14:13 kidclamp okay, moving on 14:12 ashimema that's all from me 14:12 ashimema been pushed steadily keeping up with bugfixes in master. 14:12 ashimema just needs that final qa stamp 14:12 ashimema us too ;) 14:12 ashimema #info Next 18.05.x stable release scheduled for 24th 14:11 kidclamp we have been using it in production for ages 14:11 * ashimema that would make me very happy 14:11 kidclamp ashimema, fridolin 14:11 ashimema :) 14:11 kidclamp #topic Updates from the Release Maintainers 14:10 huginn` kidclamp: The operation succeeded. 14:10 kidclamp @later tell matts please look at bug 12027 14:10 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12027 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Signed Off , Shibboleth authentication for staff client 14:10 kidclamp bug 12027 14:10 ashimema +1 14:10 kidclamp +1 14:10 ashimema be nice to get the staff shibboleth off the table.. it's been around for a while 14:09 kidclamp I will mention we discussed ES at Kohacon - there are indexing patches which move away from Catmandu for indexing and we have agreed to move forwward with these 14:09 tcohen mana++ 14:09 ashimema stock rotation++ 14:09 kidclamp if anyone has anything else they are keen on please let me know 14:08 kidclamp there are still many things I want for 18.11 - please hit ES patches asw much as possible, plus stock rotation and mana 14:08 kidclamp Jonathan reminded me to generate pre-release notes, so those have been update 14:08 tcohen kidclamp++ 14:08 kidclamp Pushing things, it is September will announce freeze dates soon 14:07 kidclamp #topic Update from the Release manager (18.11) 14:07 kidclamp #meetingtopic Development IRC meeting 19 September 2018 14:06 kidclamp any other announcements? 14:06 kidclamp #info Kohacon was awesome! many patches moved, new developer added (shortly) and much fun 14:05 kidclamp #topic Announcements 14:04 * ashimema won't be around for long.. school run in a few minutes 14:04 cc_ #info Colin Campbell PTFS Europe 14:04 thd #info Thomas Dukleth, Agogme, New York City 14:04 kidclamp #info Nick Clemens, ByWater Solutions 14:04 ashimema #info Martin Renvoize, PTFS Europe 14:04 oleonard #info Owen Leonard, Athens County Public Libraries, USA 14:04 tcohen #info Tomas Cohen Arazi, Theke Solutions 14:04 kidclamp #topic Introductions 14:03 huginn` The meeting name has been set to 'https___wiki_koha_community_org_wiki_development_irc_meeting_19_september_2018' 14:03 huginn` Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 14:03 huginn` Meeting started Wed Sep 19 14:03:54 2018 UTC. The chair is kidclamp. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 14:03 kidclamp #startmeeting https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Development_IRC_meeting_19_September_2018 14:00 tcohen (Y) 13:59 kidclamp https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Development_IRC_meeting_19_September_2018 13:59 tcohen next meetings? 13:59 kidclamp meeting soon 13:57 oleonard magnuse: Can't that be done in the circulation rule for the item type? Zero holds allowed? 13:33 magnuse feels like i'm missing something obvious 13:32 magnuse hmmm, is it possible to keep e.g. reference items (items only avaiable on one day loan) from showing up on the "holds to pull" report? so that only books with a normal/long loan period shows up on "holds to pull"? 13:18 caroline_ Good morning! 13:08 tcohen and is only reproducible in hidpi screens 13:08 tcohen its an invisible patch LOL 13:07 tcohen hi BTW 13:07 tcohen 21285 13:07 fridolin which BZ ? 13:07 fridolin tcohen: yoooo 13:06 tcohen fridolin: pleae pick the select2 patch for 17.11 13:03 tcohen hola! 12:37 * andreashm waves at the waving 12:26 * ashimema waves back to kidclamp and oleonard 12:01 * kidclamp waves 11:58 * oleonard waves to waking-up people 11:44 wahanui hi oleopard 11:44 marcelr hi oleonard 11:43 oleonard Hi #koha 11:23 fridolin hi magnuse we missed you a lot 11:20 fridolin back in my home office ;) 11:19 fridolin hi there 11:12 marcelr hi #koha 07:21 * andreashm waves 07:01 ashimema Stick a holiday in the calendar I think 07:00 ashimema For all users ? 06:38 paxed is there a way to skip one day so that no late payments are accrued? 06:22 alex_a bonjour 05:57 wahanui hello, reiveune 05:57 reiveune hello 04:13 huginn` paxed: Joensuu, Finland :: Overcast :: 50F/10C | Wednesday: Cloudy. Some light rain will fall throughout the day. High near 55F. Winds SE at 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 80%. Wednesday Night: Cloudy. Some light rain is likely. Low 51F. Winds SW at 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 70%. 04:13 paxed @wunder joensuu 02:37 mtompset Have a great day, #koha.