Time Nick Message 23:56 jenkins Project Koha_Master_U18 build #42: UNSTABLE in 26 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U18/42/ 23:54 jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9 build #554: UNSTABLE in 25 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9/554/ 23:50 Joubu whenever you want :) 23:49 kidclamp Joubu: canwe have that conversation tomorrow? or over beers 23:40 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=21006 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, nick, Needs Signoff , GetMarcBiblio is slow for records with many items 23:40 kidclamp ere bug 21006 23:28 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 19179: Email option for SMSSendDriver is not documented <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=2d6cf8bd7a0e290c8bb947ed1880f1e906d0e74c> 23:28 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 21334: Unit tests <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=1442499a0b6d6c22c87b7ef9eea4c7cc540e3fce> 23:28 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 21334: Add bibliographic content type definitions <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b612ec7a0de5c77ca29a07728664fbd1d8cb7812> 23:28 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 19179: (QA follow-up) Replace second E-mail <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b0ef7174fe601bbf39408e455365ea563949b4bb> 23:28 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 21233: (follow-up) POD fix <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b29c4e2bf9562c47b525b2b0644fb48db7853df2> 23:19 rangi calire1: i got that recalls to rebase finally 21:59 tcohen Joubu: whenever you want 21:35 Joubu tcohen, khall (not connected), kidclamp, rangi, cait2, others: I'd like to have a discussion about the "what's on in koha-devel" email, how we could have people contributing to it (I do not want to continue alone) 21:23 huginn` Bug 18723: critical, P5 - low, ---, victor.grousset, NEW , Dot not recognized as decimal separator on receive 21:23 cait2 kidclamp: https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18723 21:12 Joubu tcohen: https://github.com/Libriotech/koha-pluginstarter 20:28 jenkins Project Koha_Master_D8 build #47: SUCCESS in 35 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D8/47/ 20:19 jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9 build #553: SUCCESS in 25 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9/553/ 20:19 jenkins Project Koha_Master_U18 build #41: SUCCESS in 29 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U18/41/ 19:50 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 19469: Add ability to split view of holds view on record by pickup library and... <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=42c94d185ab44c075073dd08762c4bb71df77b16> 19:50 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 19469: Clean up template whitespace <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=18d85cc8d72b55880e88c5364a3819965c8a2831> 19:50 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 19469: (follow-up) Use patron-title.inc as proposed by bug 18403 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=51a769bb59efe1b4511805734d2ef73b8fbbac81> 19:50 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 19469: Remove use of Dumper on request.tt <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=fac3944aa1c6c0c43e5ceac77fe1d163b22bf3e2> 19:50 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 19469: (QA follow-up) Use hold item's itemtype if available, fix priority changing <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=765c28c8e3a7e11afac1a061ebd296f18f3ef8a5> 19:50 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 19469: (QA follow-up) When altering priorities, use the existing priority numbers... <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=5ef7f04f58dd470b85988b866a2e608256904da8> 19:50 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 13779: sessionID declared twice in C4::Auth::checkauth() <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=331af8521b5fba4b5553c182888a4017b2ce9c3a> 19:50 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 21127: Remove jqTransform jQuery plugin from the OPAC <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=83e515820abb6e2fa8ddf30f61b3f4972a48ed10> 19:50 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 21233: Unit tests <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=5d2ef635627fd35f721c086e7b6491a7e82b958a> 19:50 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 21233: Add Koha::Exceptions::Password <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=0c4460c2fbb6fb678381921911d9030419cc9700> 19:50 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 21248: Fix COinS carp in MARC details page on unknown record <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=030047da428521c248868e3ee5d655afd3bed05b> 19:50 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 21233: (QA follow-up) We do not like the plural form of whitespace <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=4e8d22a51bf707d3e160a87a125bd8d8f9eb04e6> 19:50 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 21293: Display of housebound delivery information broken by Bug 13618 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=c427952783776bd9e6f79ee3860f968bea5b82a9> 19:50 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 21293: Remove another misplaced html filter on housebound.tt <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=293e84d38dd25ae5bd08c2cdd5ce064f4201a79c> 19:50 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 13779: (QA follow-up) Correct checkauth call in offline_circ/download.pl <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=bf7082f854a1db9eb5b7eb77e5f450d018d8e07b> 19:50 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 21324: Fix column defs and spans <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=68138b225807a857ddbddef7680c43f2b10de87e> 19:50 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 19469: (RM follow-up) Add filters and fix variable name <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b8104d8882790b45c1d3b65386bd37ed1cc671d7> 19:49 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 19469: (QA follow-up) Disable priority pulldowns when using split holds queue <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=59b78fd095ecf7db88f339cc2f03d923b095130d> 19:49 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 19469: DBRev 18.06.028 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=5acdbb1d2dcb0bd2719f88aa6905c2cf91fab1db> 19:49 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 21233: (QA follow-up) It is not only trailing whitespace characters <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=cf3dbedae75b19ffd649725dddce212b63738582> 19:33 wahanui fridolin: bugger all, i dunno 19:33 fridolin wahanui: how are u ? 19:31 mtompset Have a great day, #koha paxed 19:31 mtompset No promises. 19:31 mtompset paxed, that bug is ugly... I may look at it later. 19:28 SoniaB kohacon people, are some of you intersted in having a look to Portland University Library. I think, I'll go near 4:30 PM, with my Koha Tshirt to make some adverstising ;) 19:22 * paxed zaps a wand of teleportation at himself 19:19 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11175 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, pasi.kallinen, Needs Signoff , Show the parent record's component parts in the detailed views. 19:19 paxed mtompset: but i'd be really happy if bug 11175 got in... 19:18 paxed s/cataloguers/acq ppl/ i guess, although in this case it was the same person ... 19:17 paxed mtompset: yup. but our cataloguers were tearing their hair out with how slow it was - waiting a minute for a page load... now it's just a second or two 19:14 mtompset Because the patch doesn't require actually testing acquisitions, but rather does it upgrade and does it create the index key. :) 19:13 mtompset paxed, workflow testing is a pain. That patch was easy to test. :) 19:06 paxed and i cba right now, it's friday evening ;) 19:05 paxed mtompset: ah. thanks :) (although that one doesn't solve the real problem - i can't recall if i submitted the bug and fix for the actual acq workflow slowness) 19:05 ashimema And.. thankyou for the cookies 😠19:04 ashimema Ooh, thanks for the reminder in 19469.. it is indeed on my list but was one I'd forgotten about.. 19:03 mtompset Thought you might appreciate that. :) 19:02 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=21288 minor, P5 - low, ---, pasi.kallinen, Signed Off , Slowness in acquisition caused by GetInvoices 19:02 mtompset Bug 21288 :) 19:02 paxed mtompset: yes? 19:02 huginn` mtompset: paxed was last seen in #koha 3 days, 12 hours, 58 minutes, and 34 seconds ago: <paxed> tcohen: ah. i don't use the devbox, so i was guesstimating from vague memory 19:02 mtompset @seen paxed 18:45 * fridolin brown hat ;) 18:21 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19469 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Passed QA , Add ability to split view of holds view on record by pickup library and/or itemtype 18:21 andreashm ashimema: don't forget bug 19469! 18:21 andreashm I should have sent cookies too. =) 18:20 caroline_ ashimema: I sent a box of cookies back with Andrew, Janet and Jonathan, it should make its way back to you :) 18:13 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18887 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Needs Signoff , Introduce new table 'circulation_rules', use for 'max_holds' rules 18:13 mtompset I'll be doing a system upgrade tonight, I suppose if bug 18887 is still around by then, I might look at it. :) 18:04 mtompset Have fun, ashimema. 18:04 mtompset Yep, time difference is a killer. 18:01 ashimema On that note, have fun hackfest people.. I'm cracking to pen the beer and cooking tea now. 18:00 ashimema Mmm, the time difference is a killer.. I was clocking off and busy with family time as the conference lot came online most days this week.. stuck unable to really contribute much again tonight too 17:47 * mtompset sighs. 17:47 mtompset And the likelihood that I'm going to be around for a discussion with my colleagues is dropping. It's 1:46pm here, and I leave at 3:30pm. 17:42 kidclamp shortcut to trello 17:42 kidclamp tiny.cc/hackfest2018 17:40 caroline_ Hackfest ppl : Documentation workshop this afternoon at 2pm, seek me out 17:36 mtompset SoniaB++ # for adding me to trello. :) 17:35 mtompset Thank you, SoniaB. :) 17:32 mtompset rangi++ # for signing off that blocker. :) 17:27 SoniaB if someone needs to be add to the trello, email me : sonia.bouis@univ-lyon3.fr 17:21 mtompset kidclamp, I'm logged in, but can't. 17:21 kidclamp https://trello.com/b/8EZBrFYR/kohacon18-hackfest 17:20 mtompset How do I add things to the "Needs" column? 17:17 cait2 https://trello.com/b/8EZBrFYR/kohacon18-hackfest 17:12 mtompset Greetings, kidclamp 17:10 cait2 hi mtompset :) 17:09 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=16690 major, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Needs Signoff , Remote DB installation is less secure. 17:09 mtompset Might I request bug 16690 and 17237 be added? 17:07 SoniaB joubu : I'm gonna test it 17:06 SoniaB joubu: I found the fist one wich block the others : Bug 18887- Introduce new table 'circulation_rules', use for 'max_holds' rules 17:05 mtompset (may have doubled greeted, but hey, that never hurts) 17:05 mtompset Greetings, Joubu rangi cait2 bag SoniaB 17:03 cait2 rangi++ 17:03 cait2 at the momen it doesn't apply because of the filters in the templates, but maybe don't rebase until needed? 17:03 rangi ive started the scoreboard up again 17:02 cait2 Joubu: i put the splitting callnumbers one on the board 17:02 Joubu The orange boxes 17:02 Joubu https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/showdependencygraph.cgi?id=15522 17:02 Joubu SoniaB: 17:02 Joubu SoniaB: you should open the dependency tree and test blocking bugs 17:01 huginn` Bug 15522: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, BLOCKED , New interface for revamped circulation rules 17:01 SoniaB is there any devs who want to work on the circulation rules reorganising : https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15522 ? 16:58 bag sb1.sandboxes.bywatersolutions.com 16:54 mtompset I was hoping to see my colleagues online shortly. Turns out they made it to the KohaCon. :) 16:52 huginn` Joubu: The operation succeeded. 16:52 Joubu @later tell kidclamp we should also bring some people here (irc) 16:51 tcohen we don't support GRS-1 mode as it is abandoned a lot of years already by indexdata 16:51 mtompset Right... but they might be handy when someone decides to index another way... or is zebra dead, and we are moving to elasticsearch only eventually? 16:50 SoniaB morning 16:50 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14302 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, RESOLVED FIXED, Remove GRS1 indexing related code 16:50 tcohen mtompset: as part of bug 14302 16:50 tcohen morning bag 16:50 bag good morning from the hackfest 16:49 mtompset why not just leave them as dom? 16:49 mtompset Though, why did you remove the indexing mode entries? 16:49 mtompset tcohen, Nope... all is fixed. 16:44 SoniaB here is a trello to follow the tests : https://trello.com/b/8EZBrFYR/kohacon18-hackfest 16:43 mtompset Because that reset hard looks like it did the job. 16:43 mtompset Let me check for the OTHER issues.... 16:43 tcohen is the 'publicserver' one 16:43 tcohen the only __START that's in there 16:42 tcohen git fetch ; git reset —hard origin/master 16:41 mtompset nope... the __START_... stuff is still there. 16:40 tcohen I could've missed something 16:40 mtompset ah... git remote update -p triggered something... let me see.... 16:40 tcohen what problem do you see in the template file? 16:39 mtompset though, I hacked the config file directly. 16:38 mtompset tcohen, already did that. 16:38 tcohen hola SoniaB 16:38 SoniaB hello! 16:38 tcohen git remote set-url origin gitlab… 16:38 huginn` Joubu: The operation succeeded. 16:38 Joubu @later tell kidclamp and maybe we could fix few quickly 16:38 tcohen have you 16:38 tcohen bummer 16:37 tcohen ah 16:37 tcohen what problem? 16:37 huginn` Joubu: The operation succeeded. 16:37 Joubu @later tell kidclamp idea for later today or tomorrow: librarians should think about bugs driving their nuts all day long 16:37 mtompset That one still has the problem. 16:37 tcohen roles/kohadevbox/templates/koha-conf... 16:36 tcohen and reprovision 16:36 tcohen you can koha-remove kohadev 16:36 mtompset what template file... just to check. 16:36 tcohen if the instance exists, then it is not re-created 16:36 tcohen the only thing to keep in mind is that 16:36 tcohen mtompset: the template file should be up to date if you provision a new box, or reprovision 16:35 * mtompset grins. 16:35 tcohen do we know you Joubu? 16:35 mtompset it says it's already up to date. 16:35 Joubu Hi from Portland 16:34 tcohen mtompset: git pull on kohadevbox 16:34 ashimema evil clone :P 16:33 ashimema cait2.. I want cait back 16:31 mtompset The reason I ask about when is because I did a vagrant up xenial yesterday, and the config file still had the same problems. 16:23 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20777 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Needs Signoff , Remove unused field accountlines.dispute 16:23 mtompset BTW, I love the column_exists check you have on your atomic update for bug 20777 16:22 mtompset When did you push it? 16:20 tcohen but it would be great to get rid of the template 16:20 tcohen I put it in sync 16:19 tcohen kohadevbox incorrectly uses a template one that gets outdated easily 16:19 tcohen mtompset: I pushed a fix for that already 16:16 mtompset but somewhere in the packaging, I think the koha-conf.xml file is grabbing from the wrong thing and not substituting. 16:15 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14302 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, RESOLVED FIXED, Remove GRS1 indexing related code 16:15 mtompset things that were being replaced are no longer, because of bug 14302 16:15 mtompset I was noticing there is a huge difference between etc/koha-conf.xml and debian/template/koha-conf.xml.in 16:14 mtompset BTW, tcohen... I helped CrispyBran through his koha-conf.xml issues with the devbox last night. 16:13 mtompset Oh that one. :) 16:13 tcohen dispute 16:12 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19465 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Patch doesn't apply , Allow choosing Elasticsearch server on instance creation 16:12 mtompset bug 19465? 16:12 mtompset which catch? 16:11 tcohen good catch, mtompset 16:11 mtompset Greetings, tcohen! 16:11 mtompset CrispyBran, started tracing the problem in the koha-conf.xml 16:11 tcohen morning! 16:01 mtompset Greetings, cait2? 15:44 mtompset CrispyBran ^^ 15:44 pastebot "mtompset" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Do these look like the things we fixed last night, CrispyBran?" (8 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/71 15:39 mtompset Greetings, cait 15:37 mtompset Hopefully you got more sleep than I, CrispyBran. :) 15:36 mtompset Greetings, CrispyBran oleonard 15:32 oleonard Hi #koha 15:28 CrispyBran Good morning #koha and HackFest! 15:13 reiveune bye 14:57 huginn` mtompset: tcohen was last seen in #koha 1 day, 16 hours, 38 minutes, and 0 seconds ago: <tcohen> ere: can you give me a pointer to your API docs? 14:57 mtompset @seen tcohen 14:41 huginn` mtompset: LeeJ was last seen in #koha 1 week, 2 days, 16 hours, 53 minutes, and 50 seconds ago: <LeeJ> have a good night all..back to work! 14:41 mtompset @seen LeeJ 14:41 mtompset By the way, does anyone know how to confirm xml doc changes? 14:32 tuxayo <_oftc_mtomps "Hey, tuxayo! Have a sign off. ;)"> mtompset: thanks! ⤠14:27 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20915 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, victor.grousset, Signed Off , Use date --iso-8601 instead of date +%Y-%m-%d to be more readable and crontab friendly 14:27 mtompset Hey, tuxayo! Have a sign off. ;) bug 20915 14:13 mtompset I can't sign off, because I submitted a patch on it. 14:13 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=21281 blocker, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Label Template - Creation not working 14:13 mtompset bug 21281 -- it's a blocker, and it isn't hard to test. 14:13 mtompset Anyone want an "easy" sign off? 14:10 huginn` mtompset: Joubu was last seen in #koha 1 day, 15 hours, 2 minutes, and 32 seconds ago: <Joubu> yes 14:10 mtompset @seen Joubu 13:45 magnuse mtompset++ for trying :-) 13:45 mtompset Not a problem. Just thought I'd mention it. :) 13:41 magnuse sorry, i'm running late with setting up a prod instance for a customer... 13:41 mtompset Then we can finally be rid of the '%' cases. 13:40 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17237 minor, P5 - low, ---, magnus, Needs Signoff , Stop koha-create from creating MySQL users without host restriction 13:40 mtompset Because then you could also sign off bug 17237 13:40 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=16690 major, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Needs Signoff , Remote DB installation is less secure. 13:40 mtompset Could you sign off bug 16690? 13:39 mtompset magnuse! 13:39 Freddy_Enrique how are things going? 13:38 Freddy_Enrique Hi all! 13:30 ashimema floating point and rounding fun scares me.. that bug is one i've dipped into a few times now and always come back out the other end screaming 13:30 ashimema though.. the rounding errors bug does sort of 'go there'.. which is scary 13:30 ashimema oh god, that would have been aweful! 13:28 tuxayo ashimema oh good thing these thing were only limited to these niches and we never had to deal with these. 13:28 tuxayo > Similarly, in the UK, the prices of government securities continued to be quoted in multiples of ​1â„32 of a pound (​7 1â„2 d or ​3 1â„8 p) long after the currency was decimalised. 13:28 tuxayo > stock exchanges in the United States used eighths or sixteenths of dollars, until converting to decimals between September 2000 and April 2001.[14] 13:25 tuxayo magnuse++ 13:25 magnuse may the hackfest Fix All The Things! 13:17 ashimema hehe 13:16 tuxayo And trying to throw some important and complicated bugzillas hard enough so that they will fall in Portland. 13:16 tuxayo mtompset missing the fun too ^^" 13:14 tuxayo Definitely, we talked a lot about that issue during the last hacking 13:14 tuxayo > lets see what cait says.. I'll bug her this afternoon when they're all at hackfest ;) 13:11 ashimema missing the fun :'( 13:11 mtompset Greetings, ashimema 13:11 mtompset Are you two at KohaCon? Or are you missing the fun too? 13:09 ashimema cheers.. I was hoping that was the case 13:09 mtompset Greetings, tuxayo 13:09 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18723 critical, P5 - low, ---, victor.grousset, BLOCKED , Dot not recognized as decimal separator 13:09 tuxayo I think I had to convince someone to not change too much pages at once to keep the bugzilla not too big. The follow up will be bug 18723 13:09 tuxayo ashimema: The idea is to have a consistent behavior in the whole program. To not be confusing. 13:09 tuxayo > we're only talking accounts right now aren't we 13:09 tuxayo o/ mtompset: 13:08 mtompset Greetings again, #koha. Silly network. 13:06 ashimema lets wait for their response.. I'm happy to back down.. just need a little more pursuading and qa people ;) 13:05 ashimema hense my asking cait.. she has a bunch of people in the room to ask ;) 13:05 ashimema mmm 13:05 tuxayo Or maybe from someone else in Koha? I'm not sure about that usecase 13:05 ashimema ack.. but we're only talking accounts right now aren't we.. fines etc 13:04 tuxayo In acquisition when copy from another software, an invoice email, a PDF 13:04 tuxayo > when are people pasting :( 13:04 ashimema mwah.. my brain hurts ;) 13:04 ashimema we could just do the three end to end and we'd still be in a better place 13:03 ashimema well right now.. with the CurrencyFormat we are hard coded to three.. FR, US, CH 13:03 tuxayo 😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱 13:03 tuxayo > I'm envisioning a configurable mask.. one per currency 13:02 ashimema when are people pasting :( 13:02 ashimema grr 13:02 ashimema but yeah.. the whole number, no decimal bit on paste is still a fail 13:01 ashimema I'm envisioning a configurable mask.. one per currency 13:00 tuxayo 🎉🎈💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥 13:00 tuxayo And the currencies without a decimal part and the currencies with three decimal parts. 13:00 tuxayo It could make the mask solution works with pasting. (if the pasted number has always two decimals) But then there are the cases when one just want to input a round number without a decimal part. 13:00 tuxayo > just scrubbing out non numerics could still work 12:53 ashimema lets see what cait says.. I'll bug her this afternoon when they're all at hackfest ;) 12:53 ashimema lol.. sounds like we're on the same line here.. only you've already exhausted all the options 12:52 ashimema but again.. I've not witnessed that usage myself.. and actually.. just scrubbing out non numerics could still work 12:52 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12310 major, P5 - low, ---, victor.grousset, Failed QA , Decimal separators issues in patrons payments/fines 12:52 tuxayo That happened like five times during the hackfest when I though I had found the solution. I really didn't want to go with the solution in bug 12310 12:52 ashimema mm, pasting is a hard one 12:51 tuxayo And then the pasting case comes and ruins the party :( 12:51 tuxayo > the mask would input the ,.£$GBP USD etc for you. 12:51 tuxayo ashimema A french library could for have one or many computers with a french keyboard but an english locale. So "." in the numpad wouldn't input "," 12:48 ashimema time is always a factor :'( 12:48 ashimema the mask would input the ,.£$GBP USD etc for you. 12:48 ashimema what I'd like to see is only digits being able to be input.. that way you don't have to worry about allowing any other stray chars which may creep in because of keyboard mappings.. 12:47 ashimema not sure I understood that last one 12:45 tuxayo Or just having on or many compters in english because a bug or "historical reasons" 12:45 tuxayo «same library wanting to be able to use differing input styles» 12:45 ashimema fair enough 12:44 * tuxayo sent a long message: < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/v1/download/matrix.org/kLXFxrsmBQsMfwJKCyjtmZWc > 12:44 tuxayo That's what I tried to push most of the time during the last hackfest. Until accepting that it should be a requierement. ^^" 12:44 tuxayo > mmm, but I don't think it's reasonable for users to expect the computer to guess which format they're using.. we should rather be encouraging/enforcing the right format is used by the user. 12:44 tuxayo Considering how complicated the problem is and that a perfect solution will take year to get enough resources and get into master. 12:44 tuxayo I can't in a reasonable time put up a great UX + handle most cases. That might be better to refine out decimal number handling in various steps. 12:44 tuxayo ashimema I'm focusing on getting rid of x100 or /100 of the amounts + decimal part truncation. 12:39 mtompset Greetings, #koha 12:30 * ashimema us brits have it easy ;) 12:29 ashimema like a library in Limburg area of holland perhaps.. where you're only a stones throw away from germany, france and belgium 12:28 ashimema I presume it's for libraries near international borders mostly? 12:27 ashimema I must admit.. i've not really had to deal with multiple users in the same library wanting to be able to use differing input styles.. it seems like a really strange requirement to me. 12:27 ashimema I think that's probably the best approach 12:27 ashimema there are 'nice' ways to apply masks.. one's that keep the user informed 12:26 ashimema but I nearly always push for 'correct' rather than 'easy on the user'.. the users won't be so easy on the computer when the math is all wrong ;) 12:25 ashimema perhaps I'm over simplifying 12:25 ashimema mmm, but I don't think it's reasonable for users to expect the computer to guess which format they're using.. we should rather be encouraging/enforcing the right format is used by the user. 12:24 tuxayo But yes coercing isn't great 12:24 tuxayo ashimema: here we have the functionnal constraint on accepting various format on the same instance. 12:24 tuxayo > my general feeling comes down to "We should be validating this input and ensuring it's of the right form rather than coercing various forms".. It's really important the user and computer agree on what's been input. 12:23 * ashimema roles up his sleaves and gets back to what he was meant to be doing this morning.. oops ;) 12:20 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15395 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Signed Off , Internationalization: plural forms, context, and more 12:20 tuxayo ashimema: It's not that bad. We have bug 15395 :P 12:20 tuxayo > this one's been round the houses allot already 12:17 ashimema indeed.. though I know exactly what it feels like having a patch pushed back on over and over.. this one's been round the houses allot already 12:15 tuxayo ashimema: «feeling really guilty and mean» You should not if your concerns are real. It's moves the bug forward because most of the wait was for input from someone else. 12:14 ashimema I have asked cait in a PM to raise it during their hackfest fun today though.. 12:13 ashimema my general feeling comes down to "We should be validating this input and ensuring it's of the right form rather than coercing various forms".. It's really important the user and computer agree on what's been input. 12:11 * ashimema is feeling really guilty and mean 12:11 ashimema sorry it's not more positive :( 12:11 tuxayo ashimema thanks for your feedback I'll respond in the bugzilla 12:08 * tuxayo sent a long message: < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/v1/download/matrix.org/xsMXqBCdTdvJoryMxcnxyTRZ > 10:50 ashimema I'm inclined to agree with marcelr at the moment really.. I really don't like that the user can input one thing then later be displayed something entirely different because of the two distinct system preferences. 10:47 ashimema anoyther surprise to me that people paste this stuff 10:45 ashimema https://www.w3schools.com/Tags/att_input_pattern.asp 10:44 ashimema i.e. the html5 `pattern` attribute? 10:44 ashimema can we use input masks perhaps? 10:44 ashimema ok 10:44 ashimema ack.. pasting 10:40 tuxayo And libraries with international personel that might have their habbits 10:40 tuxayo The case where Koha instances used with computer with not the same locale setting (and the same char outputed from the ,/. on the numpad) 10:40 tuxayo > that really surprises me 10:40 tuxayo > requireing multiple values 10:37 tuxayo We might not want to start considering the location right? 10:37 tuxayo "where" → "what" right? 10:37 tuxayo > where the syspref we expose is a 'template' for what monetary values should look like including locations of decimal and thausand separators and what they are. 10:31 tuxayo On needs also to be able to paste a value. I'm not sure that's compatible with this aproach 10:31 tuxayo > something akin to how you enter amounts in 'other amount' on the 'Presets' example here: http://uipatterns.io/currency-input/presets would be my prefered aproach 10:31 tuxayo ashimema 10:26 ashimema and.. I don't have the time to submit a better proposal so I think I'll go ahead and pass it... 10:25 ashimema hmm.. so much as I think there's a nicer solution out there I don't think there's anything to fail the patch over here.. 09:48 tuxayo During the last hackfest after talking to enough devs and librarians, I couldn't not put that in the requirements :( 09:48 tuxayo ashimema «is there a precident for requireing multiple values?» 09:16 tuxayo The defaut value«,.» is a multiple value 09:15 tuxayo Isn't that the only solution to handle multiple values? 09:13 tuxayo Could the syspref help text be changed in any way to help? 09:13 tuxayo ashimema you can have both separators. But then, dont use one of them to be a thousands separators 08:23 tuxayo thanks ^^ 08:21 tuxayo ashimema: I'm trying to only reupload the modified patch. But it seems that some errors went through. 08:20 tuxayo thanks a lot ashimema! 08:18 ashimema on bugzilla 08:18 ashimema s/commits/patches/ 08:17 ashimema as a general rule.. try to re-upload all the patches when you add followups.. it's easy to rebase and forget you've done so before uploading the followups.. I tihnk that's what happened here looking at the dates on the commits. 08:17 ashimema required the manual application of the patch in question using `patch -p1 < /tmp/patchfile.patch` followed by a manual merge fix for the bad hunks and a bz apply --continue 08:16 ashimema OK.. think I sorted it for you 08:05 ashimema try rebasing it on master and re-uploading the patches (there are some minor requirements in the rebase.. just a few additions of the `| html` filter in a few places ;) 08:05 ashimema do you still have a branch with all the patches as a set? 08:04 ashimema it's a rebasing issue possibly 08:03 ashimema really odd 08:03 ashimema so.. it's a sha1 issue 08:02 * ashimema sent a long message: < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/v1/download/matrix.org/tUpaHJHNdHrjWjIkLVWWQTFp > 08:02 ashimema ah.. no.. I did entirely misread it 08:01 ashimema nice use of koala's in the test plan btw ;) 07:59 ashimema I'll try again.. perhaps I mis-read git-bz or something 07:59 ashimema odd.. just checked the files manually and the spelling it out 07:59 tuxayo ashimema, hum strange, I'll check that 07:58 ashimema wonder if you've fixed it already in a prior patch during a rebase at some point 07:58 ashimema tuxayo, when I bz applied I found the patch `Fix typo: unformating => unformatting` didn't need to be applied.. or rather git bz claimed it didn't change anything to I skipped it 07:53 ashimema there's just too many bugs to keep up with ;) 07:48 ashimema I'll need to get myself up to speed on how those two already work 07:48 ashimema ooh.. I remember.. yeah.. I had the same funny feeling about CurrencyFormat and DecimalSeparators.. 07:47 marcelr ashimema++ 07:47 ashimema I'll get myself back up to speed on it this morning 07:47 ashimema oh.. that one hasn't made it to my list.. but I do remember having a very brief look already 07:46 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12310 major, P5 - low, ---, victor.grousset, Failed QA , Decimal separators issues in patrons payments/fines 07:46 tuxayo ashimema bug 12310 07:45 ashimema it may already be on my list, but I could bump it up a bit today.. 07:45 ashimema which currency one marcelr 07:40 tuxayo marcelr: thanks for your help :) 07:39 marcelr tuxayo: i asked for other qaers and katrin too, but nobody had time apparently sofar 07:21 tuxayo *window 07:21 tuxayo marcelr: it's been since end fo august that I want to take the time to address everything. And I still can't get rid of enough other bad problems to solve before getting to this one. So I'm worried to miss the 18.11 windows 07:05 marcelr still no response on the currency formats? 07:04 tuxayo hi marcelr ! o/ 07:04 marcelr o/ 07:04 tuxayo hi #koha o/ 07:02 marcelr hi #koha 06:34 reiveune hello 06:25 alex_a bonjour 04:20 mtompset Have a great day (24 hour period), #koha CrispyBran wizzyrea 02:20 wizzyrea more "make this fancy thing do a dance on my whatever page" 02:19 wizzyrea naw, we always at least try to get new functionality in 02:14 mtompset because rebasing is a female dog in heat! 02:14 mtompset Hopefully not actual full-blown new functionality. 02:14 wizzyrea yeah stuff that is special to that library, and not generalisable 02:13 mtompset Plugins? Reports? 02:13 mtompset That sucks. 02:13 mtompset can't go upstream? :( 02:13 wizzyrea stuff that can't go upstream :( 02:12 wizzyrea mostly client work really 02:12 wizzyrea hm. 02:12 mtompset Thank you. What fun stuff have you been working on lately? 01:59 wizzyrea thank you I hope you can avoid the worst of it this winter 01:41 mtompset (the get sick when I don't want to, and it cycles because ear throat and nose just had to be connected, arg) 01:40 mtompset It's fall here, and it's started up for me too. 01:40 mtompset Hope you feel better with the flu/cold thing. 01:39 mtompset Guess I'm not as loveable as I hoped. :) 01:39 mtompset But a heads up would have been nice. :) 01:39 wizzyrea ah right 01:39 mtompset So, I don't really have regular meetings and the like with them. 01:38 mtompset wizzyrea, well, we are remote. 01:38 wizzyrea oh neat 01:38 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14385 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Needs Signoff , Extend OpacHiddenItems to allow specifying exempt borrower categories 01:38 wizzyrea awkward 01:38 mtompset Going to be skyping about bug 14385, etc. 01:38 mtompset I need to be awake and chipper for tomorrow. My colleagues went to KohaCon without telling me. :P 01:37 wizzyrea no, family obligations :( 01:37 wizzyrea was actually non-functional for a week and some change, mostly functional this week but still holding my own sort of hack fest. 01:37 mtompset You didn't go to KohaCon? 01:37 wizzyrea early spring flu/cold thing it's pants. 01:36 wizzyrea oy yes :) 01:36 mtompset Greetings, wizzyrea. You still coughing now? :) 01:36 huginn` mtompset: CrispyBran was last seen in #koha 7 hours, 49 minutes, and 42 seconds ago: <CrispyBran> I've been a pest to tcohen lately. Trying to get zebra fixed in kohadevbox. Anyone have ideas? We tried creating a new instance and copying the koha-conf.xml file and updating the info, but no luck. 01:36 mtompset @seen CrispyBran