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23:24 mtompset Greetings, wizzycray rangi. :)
22:45 wahanui hello, wizzycray
22:45 wizzycray hi
22:23 caroline_ bye everyone!
22:21 huginn` caroline_: The operation succeeded.
22:21 caroline_ @later tell kellym Check https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Editing_the_Koha_Manual#Normal_-_Adding_screenshots_with_gitlab let me know if you have questions
21:05 andreashm thanks, you too
21:03 cait1 sleep well!
21:02 * andreashm gotta go to. time for bed
21:02 andreashm cait1: yes I saw. I'll reply soon!
21:02 rangi ok, i gotta go, see you all in a few days!
21:01 cait1 andreashm: sent you an email earlier (the only thing i did so far for slides...)
21:01 rangi it's quite hard to get in NZ though
21:01 rangi I got a taste for salty licorice from visiting the Netherlands in 1998
21:01 rangi cool
21:00 andreashm there are
21:00 andreashm there's similar here. liquorice ones too.
21:00 rangi :)
21:00 andreashm rangi: I had some when I was in the u.s. this summer
20:59 andreashm cait1: yeah, I can pay extra for one
20:59 rangi https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swedish_Fish
20:59 cait1 andreashm: could you add a bag online maybe? probably got to pay extra i guess
20:59 rangi they have (in america) Swedish Fish
20:59 rangi :)
20:59 andreashm rangi: similar to the finish. but more tasty! =)
20:59 cait1 we got a cheaper airline... i am not sure we will get fed without paying, but at least 23 kg
20:59 rangi hopefully I can rectify that next year ;)
20:58 rangi i unfortunately don't know much about Swedish candy
20:58 andreashm cait1: yeah, not great.
20:58 cait1 no check in .... ugh
20:58 rangi yay!
20:58 andreashm but I'll make room for something. maybe some salt liquorice for rangi. =)
20:57 andreashm thank you for that, tendered travel agency
20:56 * andreashm got booked on a ticket without check-in bagage!
20:55 rangi (not really, but I could :))
20:54 rangi 1 for clothes 1 for candy
20:54 rangi i get 2 bags at 23kg
20:54 * cait1 hopes she still can pack some clothes
20:50 rangi cool!
20:50 * andreashm will bring something
20:50 rangi im hoping someone from finland will bring salmiakki again
20:50 andreashm nice
20:49 rangi usually the hackfest
20:49 andreashm so I heard whispers of an international sweets/snacks-table at the con (or was it the hackfest)?
20:48 cait1 :)
20:48 rangi heh
20:48 andreashm cait1: finally it all makes sense. =)
20:47 cait1 yeah, you just get to work at 10 pm... lazy
20:47 cait1 how else i am supposed to get everything done?
20:47 rangi the timezone diffs make working on it hard
20:47 * cait1 waves
20:47 andreashm double-cait?
20:47 rangi sorta :) the one im doing by myself is getting there, but the one cait and I are doing together we probably won't get done until we are there
20:47 * cait1 grumps and hides
20:46 andreashm and you?
20:46 andreashm rangi: well, I've started at least. =)
20:43 rangi andreashm: how's the presentation writing going?
20:33 cait morning rangi
20:26 andreashm and caroline_
20:26 andreashm hi rangi
20:26 caroline_ hi andreashm!
20:26 rangi hi andreashm
20:26 * andreashm waves
20:18 caroline_ good morning rangi!
20:18 rangi morning
19:00 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=21281 blocker, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Label Template - Creation not working
19:00 mtompset Anyone care to sign off bug 21281?
19:00 caroline_ here indoors 24C, wind chill (aka AC) 16C
19:00 mtompset I stay indoors. No biggie for me... well, maybe this afternoon when I walk around a parking lot for exercise.
18:59 mtompset That's much nicer weather, cait.
18:59 caroline_ heat index 34C mtompset I feel for you
18:59 oleonard Bye #koha
18:59 huginn` cait: Konstanz, Germany :: Clear :: 69F/21C | Wind Chill: 69F/21C | Wednesday: Mainly clear. Lows overnight in the upper 50s. Wednesday Night: A few passing clouds. Low 57F. Winds light and variable.
18:59 cait @wunder Konstanz
18:58 huginn` mtompset: Orangeville, Ontario :: Clear :: 87F/30C | Heat Index: 92F/33C | Wednesday: Partly cloudy. A stray shower or thunderstorm is possible. High 87F. Winds SW at 10 to 20 mph. Wednesday Night: Partly cloudy this evening with more clouds for overnight. A stray shower or thunderstorm is possible. Low 61F. Winds WNW at 10 to 15 mph.
18:58 mtompset @wunder orangeville
18:58 huginn` mtompset: Brampton, Ontario :: Partly Cloudy :: 86F/30C | Heat Index: 93F/34C | Wednesday: Partly cloudy. A stray shower or thunderstorm is possible. High near 90F. Winds SW at 10 to 20 mph. Wednesday Night: Partly cloudy skies. A stray shower or thunderstorm is possible. Low 66F. Winds WNW at 10 to 15 mph.
18:58 mtompset @wunder brampton
18:58 cait same, even a bit more in weather report here
18:58 cait colder than i thought it would be
18:58 caroline_ I saw that it would be around 20-25 next week when I checked
18:58 cait eeek yah
18:57 caroline_ ooh 10C that's cold!
18:57 huginn` cait: Portland, OR :: Clear :: 50F/10C | Wednesday: Sunny. High 89F. Winds light and variable. Wednesday Night: A clear sky. Low near 55F. Winds light and variable.
18:57 cait @wunder portland
18:54 edveal Yes and now I am getting this: [FAIL] Error: Indexer already running for kohadev: failed!
18:52 mtompset so you did a vagrant up and a vagrant ssh... and then you type that command and get command not found?
18:48 edveal No I am just getting command not found.
18:46 mtompset Because I found my koha-conf.xml busted when I tried to get my stretch kohadevbox up this morning.
18:46 mtompset I wonder, edveal, did you see some warnings about _CAPS_THINGS_ when you attempt a reindex?
18:31 edveal do I run that from in kohadevbox or koha?
18:31 * oleonard turns off the porch light
18:30 kidclamp though this trip I am flying
18:30 kidclamp I will do that when I drive to Portland
18:29 oleonard kidclamp: When you're driving to Portland can you swing by Ohio and pick me up?
18:28 kidclamp good point, if ES may just need a full reindex
18:28 cait but probably what kidclamp said :)
18:28 cait are you using zebra or elasticserach?
18:27 kidclamp sudo koha-indexer --start kohadev
18:27 edveal I have a kohadevbox question, is there anyone that can help me. tcohen, helped me get it set up again but the indexer is not running. I have added things to the catalog but nothing is coming up in search results.
18:14 cait but better not try
18:13 cait i mean making him angry
18:09 ashimema poor joubu
18:06 cait I am not sur eif htat's really possible
18:05 cait heh
18:04 caroline_ Joubu = iron fist in a velvet glove?
18:04 * oleonard nods sagely
18:04 kidclamp I am not a fool, I don't want an angry Joubu
18:03 oleonard But not completely unafraid.
18:03 kidclamp I am much less afraid of Joubu than I used to be
18:02 cait an dusually reminds me that i talk too much here
18:02 caroline_ kidclamp: hopefully, Joubu is not too tough with disobeying colleagues ;)
18:02 cait caroline_: irc.koha-community.org hast the links )
18:02 cait i think he might have to run the script manually? not sure
18:00 cait thd++
18:00 kidclamp they do usually go right up, probably it means I didn't obey Joubu's direction caroline_
18:00 * thd disappears to do errands for his neighbour
17:59 thd They had some terrible formatting along with many spelling errors but I transformed it for KohaCon20 to be neat and readable.
17:59 caroline_ Is it normal that the minutes from this morning's meeting are not on the wiki yet? Does it take a couple of days to get on there?
17:57 caroline_ right
17:57 thd We would have needed a current discussion for how to count prioritised votes for more than two choices in the absence of an outright majority.
17:56 thd Even if the poll had not started but the proposal was still late it would have been too problematic to add.
17:55 caroline_ perfect. I wouldn't have added it to the poll anyways since it has already been going on for several week and ~300 ppl have already answered
17:54 thd https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/KohaCon20_Proposals
17:54 thd https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/KohaCon20_Proposals#Proposals_Period
17:54 thd Yes, International Islamic University, Islamabad, Pakistan. I corrected and moved the proposal to KohaCon20 Proposals.
17:53 caroline_ +1
17:53 kidclamp yes caroline_
17:46 thd kidclamp: Their second contact has a nonworking email address listed.
17:46 caroline_ LeeJ emailed me about the pakistani proposal, is this what you're talking about?
17:45 oleonard Hi caroline_
17:45 caroline_ Hi everybody!
17:45 kidclamp sure, send it my way
17:45 thd kidclamp: I moved the late proposal from KohaCon19 Proposals to KohaCon20 Proposals, however, they are not likely to receive my email because outlook.com is liable to classify messages from my mail server as junk because I do not have the expected anti-spam security configuration for my mail server mx records. I would like you to forward my message if you would please.
17:38 mtompset cut and paste and tweaked some lines into my koha-conf.xml to fix it. :)
17:38 mtompset Has anyone done a vagrant destroy; vagrant up lately? I believe the koha-conf.xml file is not correctly rewritten busting reindexing (if you haven't switched to elasticsearch?) when you reset_all.
17:36 oleonard Cool.
17:35 kidclamp yes oleonard and it worked for me now
17:30 Shane-S tuxayo: ty, I will advise her on that and then maybe I just manually run that script at the end of a school year. We have had a few people leave and come back after a year, but most are within a year that they come back.
17:23 tuxayo Shane-S Expire and use in a cronjob `misc/cronjobs/delete_patrons.pl` with the right params to remove the patrons expired since one year for example.
17:23 tuxayo > I would guess the best method is to expire them instead of delete the patron?
17:21 tuxayo There is a lot of hope that everything is still there
17:21 tuxayo But you have to check that the checkout history isn't deleted on cascade...
17:20 tuxayo This table should still have everything.
17:20 tuxayo Shane-S: The deletedborrowers http://schema.koha-community.org/17_11/tables/deletedborrowers.html
17:17 Shane-S I would guess the best method is to expire them instead of delete the patron?
17:14 Shane-S is there a way to restore deleted patrons or even see a listing of removed patrons? My librarian likes to remove people immediately...but a couple came back...would like to keep their checkout history if possible vs making a new patron
16:25 mtompset The whole zebra reset_all stuff is noisy busted in the kohadevbox. :(
16:25 huginn` mtompset: tcohen was last seen in #koha 2 days, 0 hours, 59 minutes, and 39 seconds ago: <tcohen> tuxayo: I think so
16:25 mtompset @seen tcohen
16:17 huginn` Bug 20217: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Failed QA , Make header's catalog search menu into a split button
16:17 oleonard kidclamp: Did this comment? https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20217#c16
15:52 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20600 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, andrew.isherwood, Needs Signoff , Provide the ability for users to filter ILL requests
15:52 andrew_ oleonard: I've now rebased Bug 20600, so it will hopefully apply now!
15:43 huginn` Bug 16219: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, nick, Needs Signoff , Runreport.pl should allow sql paramters to be passed on the command line.
15:43 kidclamp https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=16219
15:09 ashimema nice
15:09 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=21317 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Format long lists under Koha Team tab as columns
15:08 oleonard Speaking of the About page: Bug 21317
14:26 andrew_ Roger, thanks
14:25 ashimema yup
14:25 ashimema yuo
14:23 andrew_ So if I'm rebasing, should I just skip the conflicting patch for staff-global.css and copy the changes into staff-global.scss?
14:22 ashimema it's pretty manual though andrew_ .. as the css is no minified git really won't help you much
14:22 ashimema :)
14:21 oleonard Sounds right to me ashimema
14:20 ashimema but.. I'm awaiting feedback on that aproach from oleonard ;)
14:20 * ashimema has been extracting css changes, converting them to scss and adding them into the .scss file
14:20 oleonard Make changes to staff-global.scss only. RM will commit compiled staff-global.css
14:19 andrew_ What's the procedure now for rebasing on top of the new staff-global.css?
14:16 andrew_ oleonard: Ah, I'm not surprised, it was a while ago. I'll do that now, thanks for highlighting that :)
14:15 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20600 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, andrew.isherwood, Signed Off , Provide the ability for users to filter ILL requests
14:15 oleonard andrew_: Unfortunately Bug 20600 needs a rebase
14:08 andrew_ oleonard: I'm wondering if it's something to do with the way the KohaTable object is being instantiated that's different to all the other occurrences
14:07 andrew_ oleonard: It looks like it was implemented that way, rather than being changed as a fix
14:05 andrew_ oleonard: This is the only example I could find https://github.com/PTFS-Europe/koha/blob/ver17_11_08/koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/circ/view_holdsqueue.tt#L27
14:01 oleonard I've never seen this problem before. Have you seen a place in existing 17.11.x code which requires this fix?
14:01 andrew_ oleonard: I'm very confused, if you can't already tell
14:00 andrew_ oleonard: And when it's backported to 17.11, the api() requirement still exists maybe?
13:59 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20600 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, andrew.isherwood, Signed Off , Provide the ability for users to filter ILL requests
13:59 andrew_ oleonard: I'm just looking at the versions in use where I'm seeing problems and it's 17.11.08.000, so I'm wondering if I've got it the wrong way round. The requirement for .api() is a legacy thing that I didn't encounter when I developed for Bug 20600 on master
13:58 andrew_ oleonard: Oh, actually...
13:58 andrew_ oleonard: https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/attachment.cgi?id=77697&action=diff
13:57 andrew_ oleonard: This patch, which was done by you coincidentally. Every instance of "table." needs replacing with "table.api()."
13:56 oleonard andrew_: Do you have an example in existing code?
13:54 huginn` Bug 19417: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, nick, Failed QA , Improve display of errors from background job during stage for import
13:54 kidclamp mtompset: this patch can help you see what the error is too: https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19417
13:54 andrew_ oleonard: I'm just trying to get my head around when it changed and how#
13:53 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20600 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, andrew.isherwood, Signed Off , Provide the ability for users to filter ILL requests
13:53 andrew_ oleonard: I've been seeing it with ILL, I've been addressing some problems for customers. It's specifically being used in bug 20600, when I developed that it all worked fine, but I'm now seeing it breaking and me having to start using table.api().whatever
13:52 kidclamp mtompset: that line means the file is excluded from plack - so any errors should be in the intranet-error.log
13:51 oleonard andrew_: Where are you seeing the problem?
13:51 oleonard No problem. I had to have a stern talk with jenkins too.
13:51 andrew_ oleonard: Apologies for gatecrashing the meeting, I knew it was on, brain fade!
13:50 andrew_ oleonard: Yep, one moment...
13:50 oleonard andrew_: Still around?
13:49 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20300 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Import authorities data fail in module Stage MARC record for import
13:49 mtompset Is anyone familiar with bug 20300?
13:49 mtompset And now that the meeting is over...
13:49 ashimema kidclamp++
13:49 oleonard kidclamp++
13:48 calire kidclamp++
13:48 kidclamp Thanks all!
13:48 huginn` Log: http://meetings.koha-community.org/2018/general_irc_meeting_5_september_2018.2018-09-05-13.01.log.html
13:48 huginn` Minutes (text): http://meetings.koha-community.org/2018/general_irc_meeting_5_september_2018.2018-09-05-13.01.txt
13:48 huginn` Minutes: http://meetings.koha-community.org/2018/general_irc_meeting_5_september_2018.2018-09-05-13.01.html
13:48 huginn` Meeting ended Wed Sep 5 13:48:21 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)
13:48 kidclamp #endmeeting
13:48 cait kidclamp++
13:48 kidclamp #info Next meeting: 3 October 2018, 20 UTC
13:47 cait we had discussed several dates yesterday
13:47 cait it's 2 October 2018, 21:00 UTC - all good
13:47 kidclamp i don't see it on calendar (yet anyways)
13:47 cait sec
13:46 cait hm maybe check if the docs meeting is there
13:46 kidclamp October 3rd, 20 UTC?
13:46 kidclamp #topic Next meeting
13:46 kidclamp Anyone else have topics before we set next meeting?
13:46 cait all from me now thx!
13:45 kidclamp #action thd will contact International Islamic University about moving their kohacon bid to 2020 as it was submitted after voting phase began
13:45 cait thd++
13:45 thd Yes
13:45 cait then i won't touch it
13:45 ashimema thanks
13:45 cait thd will you undo the changes to 19 when done?
13:44 ashimema yeah.. go for the thd
13:44 cait thx thd
13:44 ashimema 'Islamic University Islamabad Pakistan'
13:44 kidclamp thanks thd
13:44 thd I can create a new wiki page for 2020 and ask them to contribute their.
13:44 ashimema ah yes.. it's merged into the heading
13:44 cait addresses
13:44 cait there is email addresse
13:44 ashimema not even sure I can actually work out who they are
13:43 cait i can undo the wiki change i think
13:43 mtompset We were already in voting phase... restore old page, put them up on KohaCon2020 page, and then ask them if they are willing to do it for 2020.
13:43 cait i really have my hands full, would someone be willing to send an email maybe?
13:43 cait yeah it looks like they accidentally added to the header row
13:42 marcelr restore older one?
13:42 marcelr yeah
13:42 ashimema that page looks messed up to me now
13:42 ashimema ooh
13:42 cait how should we handle it? undo and move to a new page? but can't assume they want to bid for 2020 too
13:42 cait it's too late as we already are in voting phase
13:42 cait https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/KohaCon19_Proposals
13:42 cait I just noticed that we had another bid added for KohaCon19
13:41 cait thx
13:41 kidclamp move on cait ;-)
13:41 kidclamp #info Agreed to add BULAC to special thanks and begin adding entities that sponsor devs to teh 'Contributing' section
13:40 cait for kohacon
13:40 cait could be a good academy task too
13:40 kidclamp Whose job to add to Contributing? RM? We can figure that later, or just allow those who care to do so
13:40 cait moving on? i got something about kohacon
13:40 * cait dreams of empty queues sometimes
13:39 cait so ewe can move on with that bug, all I want :D
13:39 cait ok
13:39 ashimema yup.. throw them in
13:39 cait ok, so special thank for bulac and add sponsored by at least to contributing?
13:39 mtompset Then, why are we even discussing this? It should be a +1 obviously.
13:39 kidclamp they did extensive testing are using in production and sponsored biblibre mtompset
13:39 cait financial side i can't tell
13:39 jenkins Project Koha_18.05_U18 build #54: SUCCESS in 41 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_18.05_U18/54/
13:39 cait they've tested a lot and are users... so no objection from me
13:38 ashimema +1
13:38 mtompset If so, yes.
13:38 calire +1
13:38 kidclamp :-b
13:38 thd +1
13:38 mtompset pushed for it, that is.
13:38 marcelr its just 20 mins kidclamp
13:38 mtompset Were they the ones that pushed it?
13:38 kidclamp but I don't want to have this conversation every time we want to add someone :-)
13:38 marcelr no objection to thank somebody
13:37 cait updates for the about page
13:37 kidclamp +1
13:37 cait are we ok with adding BULAC at least? to special thanks for elastic etc
13:37 mtompset on what exactly again?
13:37 marcelr :)
13:37 cait so do we have a decision?
13:36 mtompset Does that make you feel old now, ashimema? ;)
13:36 huginn` Current chairs: cait kidclamp
13:36 kidclamp #chair cait
13:36 cait ashimema: ... right. looking at 17.11 *hides*
13:36 cait i think just the name still, we are not good with updating stuff
13:36 ashimema April 16th 2018 is the last entry I see in the timeline
13:36 cait relaly hard to keep updated
13:36 cait oftn it might be a bug fix that is sponsored
13:35 ashimema huh
13:35 cait you are welcome?
13:35 cait lol
13:35 cait oh
13:35 cait ?
13:35 cait the last entry in timeline is dec 2017... it needs more work
13:35 kidclamp "Kidclamp thanks cait for touring german castle"
13:34 ashimema blimey
13:34 ashimema wow.. there's been 200 new devs since I joined the effort
13:34 kidclamp would allow for low level thanks
13:34 kidclamp so wiki would be more of a fun page
13:34 thd Sponsorship could also be added to attribution comments in file headers, although, the audience who would see those is small.
13:34 kidclamp Sure, I don't like the idea of having to judge who gets what special thanks
13:34 cait it's nto a good place, because of dates and all
13:33 ashimema I'd prefer to see what feature was sponsored in the timeline myself.. rather than 'first feature'.. anywho.. that's just another piece of fun to add
13:33 cait i think keep it out of timeline
13:33 mtompset But we could have another sponsored-by timeline?
13:32 mtompset kidclamp, the problem with the wiki idea is that it is open to more abuse. There are parties which may add themselves for every single bug patch they submit.
13:32 cait so we can ignore that
13:32 cait i think the sponsoring int he timeline is not happening anyway
13:32 ashimema indeed
13:32 kidclamp the overhead cost is low for adding
13:31 cait i like that the abotu page gets qa
13:31 cait not for the wiki idea either
13:31 kidclamp devs get in for any patch, any sponsorship can go in
13:31 mtompset oleonard, true. Though, counting the number of sponsored-by bugs for a given sponsor doesn't require judgments.
13:31 kidclamp would it not just be the first?
13:30 oleonard I think "sponsored by" in the timeline doesn't make sense now that we're putting "sponsored by" in bugzilla -- we get into judgement about what is a big enough sponsorship to put in the timeline
13:30 * ashimema wonders how the 'Translations' tab is kept up to date whilst we're talking this stuff
13:30 mtompset Sorry for not being clear. :)
13:29 * ashimema has caught up
13:29 ashimema oh.. did you mean the wiki link?
13:29 mtompset the wiki idea, that is.
13:29 ashimema why so mtompset?
13:29 mtompset -- Hmmm.... I'm not really for that.
13:29 kidclamp I like adding sponsored by tot he timeline, someone will need to script or be patient to make it retroactive
13:28 ashimema what about sponsored features in the timeline.. should that be covered in such a decision?
13:28 kidclamp maybe link to a wiki page "Special thanks" and anyone who wants can go crazy there
13:28 cait i think if someone wants to have what they sponsored it's ok, but often it would be too hard to track
13:28 mtompset Yes, probably is too hard.
13:28 cait too hard
13:27 cait leave companies at the bottom
13:27 mtompset Perhaps monetary/hardware vs. software changes?
13:27 cait add libraries from contributing to top
13:27 cait add sponsored-by libraries to the top from release notes
13:27 cait ok so we have
13:26 ashimema Yeah.. that could work for me
13:26 cait most of the contributing are companies
13:26 ashimema indeed
13:26 cait and leave the companies below
13:26 cait move the libraries up
13:26 ashimema just seems odd the ones that are in there.. the OPAC star ratings sponsorship one for example.. that seems a relatively small contribution to warrant an up the top mention.. maybe I'm just being a bit harsh
13:26 cait i think i see a schema
13:26 cait hm oh
13:26 cait maybe we just move up the instiuttions and merge?
13:26 oleonard Yeah, and brings ongoing maintenance of a different kind
13:26 cait it's a bit of a possible mine field
13:25 cait hard to measure that something
13:25 ashimema I dunno.. I'd say 'Special' has a place for regularly sponsors/contributors over a certain level or something?
13:25 thd I prefer something like "initial work sponsored by".
13:25 andrew_ Doh, of course, sorry
13:24 oleonard andrew_: IRC meeting now
13:24 oleonard Maybe we should have only HLT under special and move other orgs under "Contributing companies"
13:24 andrew_ Hey all. Can anyone explain why calls to KohaTable that previously worked, now need a .api() call preceding them? For example, something like: var table = KohaTable('#selector', {...}; table.search('')..... would have worked fine, but now it needs .api() between table & search, i.e. table.api().search('').... I've tried to track back the relevant change, but failed :(
13:23 cait i thnk without the early adopters we wouldn't be here now
13:23 thd What counts as "special" and why do we need a distinction between "special" and "additional"?
13:23 ashimema it would be nice to have it in there though cait :)
13:23 cait hlt? sure
13:23 ashimema not sure I like the 'Special thanks' section to be honest... are those contributor still more special than any other contributors?
13:23 cait ashimema: i don't think it did - only for big stuff at the beginning, but not continuiously (timeline)
13:22 oleonard I wonder though what to do with "special thanks" and "additional thanks"
13:22 cait +1
13:22 ashimema would be nice to get that up to date with appropriate features and their sponsorship in my opinion.
13:22 oleonard I think using "sponsored by" in the future to add to "Contributing companies and institutions" is a good idea
13:21 ashimema not seeing any mentions since 2009 though
13:21 ashimema sponsored by used to go into the timeline..
13:21 tuxayo New tab?
13:20 ashimema totally agree we should add them
13:20 cait recognition is about the only thing the community can offer
13:20 cait maybe a little messy, but i think important
13:20 cait one ideas was to add all the libraries from the release notes that used the sponsored-by line
13:19 ashimema been ages since I've properly looked at it.
13:19 ashimema that page is a bit of a mess..
13:19 jenkins Project Koha_18.05_D9 build #56: FIXED in 25 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_18.05_D9/56/
13:19 jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
13:19 cait so the question was mostly about how we want to handle instiutions and where they shoudl go
13:19 cait then the release teams, the devs, then contributing companies and institutions and additional thanks
13:18 cait we've got a special thanks at the very top
13:18 cait we add new devs, but not libraries
13:18 cait at themoment we have different sections on the page
13:18 jenkins Project Koha_18.05_D8 build #56: SUCCESS in 22 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_18.05_D8/56/
13:18 cait there was a request from bulac to be added to the about page that led to some dicussion
13:17 cait that was me
13:17 kidclamp #topic Updates for the About page
13:17 kidclamp moving on :-)
13:16 ashimema lead by example aye :S
13:16 ashimema I knew what I was getting into when I started QAin'g them ;)
13:15 kidclamp poor ashimema has to deal with all the rebases for backports :-)
13:15 oleonard Idea: new Koha Academy, 100% rebasing.
13:15 ashimema poor oleonard.. but you'd prefer it this way than the other ;)
13:15 kidclamp #info Stable branches are good, master is coming along, please see majors and prepare patches before kohacon
13:15 * calire prepares for sign-offs
13:14 oleonard Oh my god the rebases.
13:14 kidclamp thanks to all, I am excited for this release :-)
13:14 ashimema (and bag)
13:14 cait yes, rebase, update test plans, etc.
13:14 kidclamp the SCSS and XSS patches mean many rebases and we are slowly cleaning up issues caused by those
13:14 ashimema SR is moving forward nicely now.. thanks tcohen
13:14 kidclamp yes, everyone should get things setup for fast movement at kohacon
13:13 * ashimema is also happy he didn't fall off his bike (into a canal or otherwise) whilst irc'ing on his bike.
13:13 kidclamp pushing ES work along, would still like to see Mana and Stock Rotation move forward
13:13 cait my theory is that it will fill quickly at the hackfet, recommend the qa team to clean up too :)
13:13 kidclamp there are several majors /critical/blockers that could use attention
13:13 ashimema lol
13:13 kidclamp I am getting the queue as clean as possible before Kohacon
13:12 ashimema that's it from me
13:12 * oleonard thanks ashimema for not dying in a terrible IRC-related road accident
13:12 cait #info Katrin Fischer, BSZ
13:12 kidclamp ashimema++
13:11 * ashimema thanks kidclamp for covering the final release bits in his absence last week
13:11 ashimema all good here.. just catching up after a weeks leave.
13:11 mtompset #info Mark Tompsett
13:10 wahanui somebody said ashimema was RMaint for 18.05 ?
13:10 kidclamp ashimema?
13:10 kidclamp Frido said all things are happy for him
13:10 kidclamp #topic Update on releases
13:09 ashimema phew
13:09 kidclamp :-)
13:09 kidclamp no ashimema , just distracted
13:09 kidclamp #link https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Kohacon18/Social kohacon social info
13:09 marcelr #info Marcel de Rooy
13:09 * ashimema wonders if his irc connection has gone bad again
13:08 ashimema :(
13:07 oleonard \o\ \o/ /o/
13:06 calire \o/
13:06 kidclamp anyone else :-)
13:06 kidclamp KohaCon! It is soon! Huzzah!
13:05 kidclamp #topic Announcements
13:05 kidclamp #link https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/General_IRC_meeting_5_September_2018 Agenda
13:04 ashimema #info Martin Renvoize, PTFS Europe, UK
13:04 oleonard #info Owen Leonard, Athens County Public Libraries, USA
13:03 thd #info Thomas Dukleth, Agogme, New York City
13:03 calire #info Claire Gravely, BSZ
13:02 cc_ #info Colin Campbell, PTFS Europe
13:02 kidclamp #info Nick Clemens, ByWater Solutions
13:01 kidclamp #topic Introductions
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13:01 kidclamp #startmeeting General IRC meeting 5 September 2018
13:01 kidclamp meeting time!
12:58 ashimema lol
12:50 oleonard Oh good you can catch me up on Star Trek Discovery
12:49 fridolin I have trained my english with Netflix, I'm ready guys ;)
12:48 fridolin XD i bring my brown hat indeed
12:48 * oleonard imagines fridolin polishing his stainless steel shock-proof hat box
12:45 fridolin nothing special concerning RMaint :D
12:45 fridolin kidclamp: hi, I'm preparing my trip so I will not be at meeting today.
12:44 magnuse tee hee
12:36 oleonard In the Hackfest description it says "There will be plenty of breaks for coffee, snacks and mingling" and I read it at first as "coffee, snacks and snuggling." I may be getting a little TOO excited for KohaCon.
12:28 oleonard I had a dream last night that I got to Portland and rangi reminded me that I'd signed up to do a presentation
12:28 wahanui hi oleopard
12:28 kidclamp hi oleonard
12:25 wahanui hi oleopard
12:25 marcelr hi oleonard
12:25 oleonard Hi marcelr and kidclamp
12:19 marcelr o/
12:19 kidclamp hi marcelr
12:17 marcelr hi #koha
11:33 wahanui :)
11:33 eythian wahanui: good bot
11:30 wahanui hi oleopard
11:30 calire hi oleonard
11:29 oleonard Hi all
10:43 jenkins Project Koha_18.05_U18 build #53: SUCCESS in 41 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_18.05_U18/53/
10:39 Evidox I also tried using a live CD but it didn't work
10:39 Evidox i couldnt do the dump as the hard disk had crashed and therefore not bootable
10:33 eythian (unless things have changed since I last looked at it.)
10:33 eythian Evidox: if you have a database dump, you shouldn't need to run the web installer.
10:28 Evidox DBIx::Class::Storage::DBI::_dbh_execute(): Table 'koha_library.search_field' doesn't exist at /usr/share/koha/lib/Koha/Objects.pm line 110.
10:26 Evidox I was able to recover it but while running Web installer. It returned an error like this:
10:26 Evidox My client's hard disk crashed and they had never made backups, therefore there is no database dump available. My option was to copy from MySQL files of the crashed disk and paste in the new one.
10:24 jenkins Project Koha_18.05_D9 build #55: UNSTABLE in 25 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_18.05_D9/55/
10:24 Evidox I have a problem with koha database recovery.
10:23 jenkins Project Koha_18.05_D8 build #55: SUCCESS in 21 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_18.05_D8/55/
08:53 jenkins Project Koha_18.05_U18 build #52: SUCCESS in 41 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_18.05_U18/52/
08:38 jenkins Project Koha_18.05_D9 build #54: SUCCESS in 29 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_18.05_D9/54/
08:36 jenkins Project Koha_18.05_D8 build #54: SUCCESS in 25 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_18.05_D8/54/
07:57 paxed cait: basically, i changed the pending orders table to work like the member search - show nothing, until you search, do the search on server side
07:57 cait meeting - bbl
07:56 andreashm possibly.
07:51 cait maybe file it under rest api - could be adate inclusive/exclusive thing somewhere
07:49 andreashm (this is a very minor issue, but still)
07:48 andreashm place, not plöace
07:48 andreashm wondering if this is a bug, or done on purpose? or if we missed something. =)
07:48 andreashm it's possible to plöace a hold with expirydate = the same date the hold is placed from the staff interface, but not through the api.
07:47 andreashm cait: prefs seem ok
07:43 cait there is the pref and the category type setting
07:42 cait andreashm: not aware, sorry. could it be your configuration for expired patrons changed?
07:40 * andreashm digs into Bugzilla
07:37 andreashm any changes to the api (hold endpoint), or place reserves?
07:36 andreashm using the rest endpoint, with 16.05 it was ok to place a hold where the patrons expiry was the same date, now with 17.11 it doesn't work.
07:36 andreashm anyone know if the code for placing a hold where a patrons expirydate is today, has changed recently? (we noticed a change upgrading to 17.11)
07:30 cait lately they target tickets with print/printer and leave spammy comments with bad links
07:30 * cait grumps about bugzilla spammers
07:27 andreashm and hi #koha
07:26 andreashm hi cait
07:25 cait morning all
07:25 cait paxed: understandable
07:23 * andreashm waves
07:17 Evidox Hello, I havev an issue with recovering koha database from mysql folder as my client's server hard disk crashed. They had not made any backups since the use of Koha ILS. So my option was to recover database from MySQL database files (copy from old to new installation). But the problem i am having is that on loading the staff client interface, the web installation restarts and after selecting defaults, i get a Software Error like this: DBIx::Class::Storage::
07:13 paxed cait: looks like our main acq person wants my improvements asap
06:55 alex_a bonjour
06:32 calire hey magnuse
06:31 magnuse \o/
06:18 ashimema anyone know if there live streaming planned for kohacon?
06:11 * ashimema wonders why we don't just use camel_case names for images in the manual.. there's no need for a complicated numerical categorisation scheme..
06:06 calire hi fridolin
06:06 fridolin hi there
06:05 paxed well, that seems to work. just need some polish, and actual user testing.
06:04 ashimema oops
06:04 ashimema ooh.. I forgot about the documentation meeting..
06:04 calire hi ashimema
06:04 ashimema Mornin' #koha
05:46 cait nice
05:45 paxed cait: i'm working on making the acq parcel.pl page load the pending table dynamically on search
05:32 calire hi #koha
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