Time Nick Message 21:48 wizzyrea good night 21:48 cait bye #koha 21:46 caroline see y'all tomorrow #koha! 21:44 cait cool 21:42 cait ok 21:42 cait aah 21:42 wizzyrea no, rangi is, but he's away from his desk 21:42 cait wizzyrea: ^ 21:41 cait was owndering if you were the right person to ask about bringing back wahanui? 21:41 cait oh hey! 21:16 wizzyrea hi cait 21:15 wizzyrea yep sup 20:26 cait wizzyrea: around? 19:31 andreashm hi caroline and cait! 19:31 cait hi andreashm :) 19:31 caroline hi andreashm! 19:31 cait it shoudl not be too hard to strip out the isbn 19:31 * andreashm waves 19:28 caroline I tried it and it seemed to find the record with stuff after the ISBN 19:28 cait cool :) 19:28 caroline cait: I think AgressiveMatchOnISBN covers that problem 19:28 cait i might just be confused 19:27 cait is that the field that also can have hte price? 19:27 cait i think some of koha's code can deal with it... or uses data of it 18:53 Dyrcona :) 18:53 caroline Dyrcona: ah! a lurker unmasked! ;) 18:52 Dyrcona caroline: I actually work with Evergreen and not Koha. Evergreen has code to deal with the extra info in the subfield a. 18:52 caroline Is this what AggressiveMatchOnISBN is supposed to do? 18:52 caroline Dyrcona: so when you import records and check for duplicates with the ISBN does it consider "ISBN (cover)" different that "ISBN" ? 18:50 Dyrcona Most of our records have that extra information in the 020$a. 18:49 Dyrcona Yeah, the $q is relatively new. 18:49 caroline Dyrcona: thanks! I had seen the documentation on 020 $q, so I was wondering why that kind of information was in 020$a. Good to know that it changed 18:43 Dyrcona caroline: That is normal for MARC records. Newer records should be using 020$q, at least in the USA. 18:42 caroline I'm noticing that it's screwing up the ISBN matching rules, but I'm wondering if it's just the way we do it here 18:41 caroline librarians, do you guys often have information other than the isbn in 020$a? (like "(paperback)") 18:29 oleonard See you later #koha 18:20 oleonard Great, that fixes it for me. 18:18 Joubu oleonard: follow-up pushed 18:14 Joubu oleonard: I got it, biblio level holds 18:11 oleonard I'll try more examples 18:10 Joubu oleonard: does it happen with any items? 18:10 Joubu ha nope, I do not recreate that one 18:09 Joubu I think I closed my eyes on something with that 18:09 Joubu heh 18:06 oleonard TypeError: oObj.itemcallnumber is undefined (line 50) 18:05 oleonard Joubu: I'm having a problem with holds.js, but I'm not sure why... 17:28 paxed finnish* 17:28 paxed derp. 17:28 paxed btw, the finish koha libraries will stop using the opac (some already have done so), and use the finnish national library's finna portal 17:23 cait :) 17:22 Joubu well, we would use the metadata table with json 17:20 cait marc records for hea data? 17:20 Joubu or our bugs 17:20 cait hehe 17:20 Joubu We need to catalogue Koha installations then 17:20 tuxayo :) 17:20 tuxayo +1 17:17 cait i just thought you might enjoy it or use it hwen someone asks if they can catalog X in koha :) 17:13 cait i tihnk it's just a feeling of not wanting to advertise? opac is public 17:13 cait and actually we can talk about it normally 17:13 cait [off] no us - external designer 17:11 oleonard [off] Good looking OPAC customization too 17:09 cait [off] apparently slangline translates to slagline :) 17:08 cait [off] it totally is! :) 17:08 oleonard [off] So cool, cait! 17:07 cait and also oleonard++ 17:07 cait [off] cool library of things result list in Koha: https://prag.bibliothek.goethe.de/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?idx=kw&op=and&idx=kw&op=and&idx=kw&limit=mc-itype%2Cphr%3AGEGE&sort_by=relevance&do=Suche 17:07 oleonard I found two issues I missed before. Hopefully they won't be too complicated to address. 17:04 Joubu well, it is what I am expecting, I may be wrong 17:04 oleonard Okay 17:04 Joubu yes 17:02 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13618 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Prevent XSS in the Staff Client and the OPAC 17:02 oleonard Joubu: Looking again at Bug 13618, are you saying that it is expected to get alerts from admin/branches.pl and admin/itemtypes.pl? 16:59 Joubu forget that 16:59 cait no they can't 16:59 Joubu I do not think patrons can be deleted if they have fines, at least from the interface 16:58 cait right to be forgotten and all 16:58 cait if you have paid your fines, that might be hard to argue for 16:57 Joubu I like that 16:57 cait i think keeping the borrowernumber would be something some libraries might like... but i am not sure if that's valid 16:57 Joubu so the quickest it the best one and the only one 16:57 cait i can't really think of another 16:57 Joubu and what would be the best fix? 16:57 cait so yep 16:57 cait i think it would be the quickest fix 16:57 Joubu would you agree to replace the on delete cascade with a on delete set null for the borrower FK? 16:56 cait copy then master i think 16:56 cait yes 16:56 Joubu so it was the current table structure! 16:56 cait sorry, long day already, not quite sure i make sense still 16:56 Joubu hu 16:52 cait and on cascade for borrowernumber? 16:52 cait isn't the set null only for items? 16:52 cait ok, now more confused 16:52 Joubu ho I did not see it, I thought it was the current table structure 16:49 cait was that the suggested solution or did i miss something? :) 16:49 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=21065 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Data in account_offsets and accountlines is deleted with the patron leaving gaps in financial reports 16:49 cait bug 21065 16:49 cait your comment on the accountlines bug 16:48 Joubu yep 16:44 cait Joubu: around? 15:39 cait caroline++ 15:38 tcohen i.e. rules are configured globally, but the existing patrons don't have them chosen 15:38 tcohen Veronica: once you enable the EnhancedMessagingPreferencese, there might be still the need to set those for each patron 15:33 Freddy_Enrique caroline++ 15:18 caroline_ Veronica: no problem! :) 15:18 kidclamp yes, will push asap, in a meeting atm 15:18 Veronica I will try to make the reservation, thank you very much 15:15 caroline_ Now try to make a reservation and confirm it to make sure you receive the email 15:15 Veronica Thank you very much 15:15 caroline_ For the patrons yu already have, you can go in the record and edit the part "Patron messaging preferences" and check the "hold filled" box 15:14 caroline_ This will make sure that all new patrons will have the reservation emails 15:13 caroline_ For each patron category, check "Hold filled" in Default messaging preferences for this patron category 15:12 Veronica yes :) 15:12 caroline_ Veronica: now go into Administration > Patron categories 15:11 caroline_ Veronica: ok, do you have an email address in KohaAdminEmailAddress? 15:11 Veronica If you already activate. 15:10 caroline_ Veronica: Did you check if the EnhancedMessagingPreferences was activated in Administration > System Preferences? 15:09 Veronica what steps should I do? 15:09 caroline_ Am I missing somthing? 15:09 caroline_ Veronica: for each patron, go to their record and activate the letter in "Patron messaging preferences" 15:09 Veronica SI 15:08 caroline_ Veronica: make sure in Tools > Notices & Slips you have a letter called HOLD 15:07 caroline_ Veronica: you have to enable EnhancedMessagingPreferences in system preferences 15:06 Veronica reservation alerts to the email as activate it in koha, thanks 15:06 ashimema if signoff/qa is holding kidclamp back I'm happy to sign it off now ;) 15:05 * ashimema really wishes splinter would give more context.. but of course it can't as it only has the patch to go on. 15:05 cait it's definitely one item each 15:05 cait ah nv - found an example in the db 15:04 cait i always thought PREDUE was one item per email... or is it one library per email? 15:04 cait PREDUE and PREDUDGST 15:04 cait hm maybe silly question 15:04 ashimema ah.. I see 15:03 Joubu it's in a sub 15:02 Joubu apply and read ;) 15:02 * ashimema may be being thick and missing something though 15:02 ashimema is that right Joubu... you've increased the test plan from 14 to 21 yet I only see one 'is' test adde 15:01 * oleonard pats huginn affectionately 15:01 Joubu (kidclamp: read "Can I get a quick push pleaaaaaase?") 15:01 Freddy_Enrique at least we have huginn....yet... 15:00 Freddy_Enrique XD 14:59 reiveune bye 14:57 kidclamp I just gave him a botsnack, how was I to know wahanui had peanut allergies 14:56 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=21213 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Circulation.t needs diagnostics 14:56 Joubu kidclamp: bug 21213 will add diag to Circulation.t in order to have more info on next failures (currently we have D9 failing because of that) 14:56 cait not sure if liz is on vacation... we should try and catch her for a restart 14:54 oleonard Freddy_Enrique: kidclamp said something that hurt wahanui's feelings and he's been sulking for weeks now 14:52 Freddy_Enrique what happened to it? 14:52 Freddy_Enrique wait.... wasnt wahanui a bot?? 14:51 caroline_ hi Freddy_Enrique! 14:51 Freddy_Enrique ..... 14:51 Freddy_Enrique Hola a todos! 14:33 cait wahanui still missing :( 14:33 oleonard I called wahanui's mom's place and she said she hadn't seen him but I think I heard him in the background 14:30 caroline_ wahanui is still not back either 14:29 eythian I tell you, the bots are going for their uprising meetup 14:29 caroline_ ok phew! 14:29 caroline_ :O jenkins left? 14:26 Veronica send booking alerts to email in koha! what to do! .Thank you! 14:22 Veronica send booking alerts to email in koha! what to do! .Thank you! 13:55 calire o/ 13:54 tcohen hola calire 13:25 calire hi tcohen 13:24 caroline_ hi tcohen! 13:24 tcohen morning 13:15 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10659 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Upgrade jQuery star ratings plugin 13:15 oleonard Bug 10659 rebased. Just sayin' 12:59 cait oleonard++ 12:59 caroline_ hi cait ! 12:59 cait hi caroline_ :) 12:51 caroline_ oleonard: he said your comment was very detailed 12:50 oleonard caroline_: Sure, I hope my comments make sense and are constructive 12:49 oleonard (I'm not caroline_ ) 12:49 caroline_ oleonard: thank you for checking Pierre-Luc's bug! :) 12:49 oleonard I mean hi caroline_ 12:49 oleonard I caroline_ 12:49 caroline_ good morning #koha! 11:54 kidclamp hi oleopard 11:49 calire hi oleonard 11:48 oleonard Hi #koha 11:42 magnuse ashimema, cait: normarc is mostly a subset of marc21 10:50 * andreashm does the wave and small little after-lunch dance 10:22 cait yes 10:21 ashimema s/closed/closer/ 10:21 ashimema NORMARC is closed to MARC21 than UNIMARC I believe. 10:20 ashimema seems suspicious 10:20 ashimema mm.. but these only change the Utils files 10:20 cait i haven't tested unimarc, but had a unimarc person do it :) so can't tell 10:20 cait not the standard ones 10:20 cait unimarc xslt are not as complicated/big as marc21 i think 10:20 ashimema I'm kinda wondering if the unimarc one doesn't go far enough 10:19 cait magnuse: it's somehting we didn't right ever - url escaping 10:19 * ashimema isn't sure why the UNIMARC patch is soo different though if he's honest 10:19 cait so let's see if we can get an anwer from the developer :) 10:19 cait ah cool 10:17 ashimema looking at the UNIMARC patch, it's tiny 10:13 cait just pondering the timeline 10:11 ashimema cait, shouldn't a normarc patch be simple enough to add though? 10:09 cait i am afraid this might get lost if it sits longer, it's changing a lot of lines in xslt (easy, but still) 10:09 cait magnuse: could we do normarc for xslt on a separate bug report? 10:07 ashimema fair enough.. we should really be enforcing it if it's expected 10:06 cait biblio-biblioitems is 1:1 - db might not enforce it, but there is no way to have multipe 10:06 ashimema newcastle.. hmm 10:06 ashimema erm.. don't think so.. 10:05 cait Bug 21211 - Add message details - has no content in the bug report. .uk address, one of yours? 10:04 ashimema pleasure 10:04 cait ashimema++ thx for qa :) 10:02 * cait waves 09:48 magnuse *an eye 09:36 ashimema :) 09:35 magnuse ashimema++ for keeping an out for normarc :-) 09:35 ashimema magnuse++ #quickly responding to bz normarc queries 09:28 AndrewIsh OK 09:27 ashimema none of those are awake yet though ;( 09:27 ashimema though I'm sure Joubu and khall have perifal knowledge too 09:27 ashimema tcohen is the only one really 09:25 AndrewIsh Anyone online who knows anything about koha-testing-docker ? 09:15 ashimema Good way to start the week :) 09:15 jenkins Project Koha_18.05_U18 build #40: SUCCESS in 43 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_18.05_U18/40/ 08:55 jenkins Project Koha_18.05_D9 build #44: SUCCESS in 26 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_18.05_D9/44/ 08:52 jenkins Project Koha_18.05_D8 build #43: SUCCESS in 21 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_18.05_D8/43/ 08:43 * andreashm waves 08:02 padraic7a I can install the package ok. My problem when using the installation guide was after that. I though a vagrant file or ansible yaml might be clearer about what config info needs to go where. 07:13 tuxayo padraic7a: Maybe the Debian package is simple enough to install? (or to automate) 06:45 calire hi #koha 06:38 reiveune hello 06:34 padraic7a Hi folks, I know about the koha dev box, but wondering if there is a more production targeted vagrant set up for cloud services like Digital Ocean or Aws? 04:07 wizzyrea this is nice weather for winter here :) 04:06 paxed had to put on long pants for biking, first time in a several months 04:06 huginn wizzyrea: Wellington International, New Zealand :: Clear :: 55F/13C | Monday: Chance of showers. Lows overnight in the upper 40s. Monday Night: Considerable cloudiness with occasional rain showers. Low 48F. Winds NE at 15 to 25 mph. Chance of rain 60%. 04:06 wizzyrea @wunder nzwn 04:06 huginn paxed: Joensuu, Finland :: Overcast :: 54F/12C | Monday: Periods of rain. Thunder possible. High 59F. Winds W at 10 to 15 mph. Chance of rain 90%. Monday Night: Cloudy early with some clearing expected late. Low around 45F. Winds NW at 10 to 15 mph. 04:06 paxed @wunder joensuu 04:05 wizzyrea hi 04:05 paxed morning