Time  Nick           Message
00:25 Reza           Hi. Good Morning. I upgraded my Koha to 18.05.02.000 and enabled ElasticSearch. Everything works but the Koha search response is much longer than the response from ES. For examle, when I curl directly from ES it takes milliseconds but the same search takes about six seconds using the interface. Do you know what could be the issue?
00:25 Reza           Hi. Good Morning. I upgraded my Koha to 18.05.02.000 and enabled ElasticSearch. Everything works but the Koha search response is much longer than the response from ES. For example, when I curl directly from ES it takes milliseconds but the same search takes about six seconds using the interface. Do you know what could be the issue?
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02:34 rangi          couldnt be bothered with finesse
03:47 BobB           Reza i don't know a lot about ES yet ..
03:47 BobB           in about 5 hours there'll be people here who know more
03:47 Reza           OK. thank you :)
03:49 rangi          Reza: its because elasticsearch just returns a bunch of json
03:49 rangi          in order to do anything with it, we have to create MARC objects for each of the results, then run it through the xslt etc
03:49 Reza           it retuns a single record
03:49 rangi          but not a marc object
03:49 rangi          its JSON
03:49 Reza           yes
03:50 Reza           it is JSON
03:50 rangi          yeah so we have to get the actual data from the database, and create a MARC::Record object from it
03:50 rangi          eventually we might build a client side search, that talks directly to elasticsearch
03:51 Reza           Is there anyway that I could improve the latency till that is in place?
03:51 rangi          but currently it works consistently with zebra, ie, we use the same XSLT files to control the display
03:51 rangi          not really, i'd probably stick with zebra
03:51 Reza           If I use ES can I totally ignore zebra?
03:52 rangi          no
03:52 rangi          because you need zebra for it's z3950 capability
03:52 rangi          if however you never want Koha to act as a z3950 server, you can mostly ignore it. Everything is still indexed in there though anyway, wether you are using ES or not
03:53 Reza           I am running Koha on AWS
03:54 Reza           Lets say if a server dies and a new server is being replaced (auto-scaling) zebra needs to be rebuilt on each server
03:55 Reza           I am not very clear how Koha could follow the high availablity practices. For example, the ES could be used if there are multiple application servers. But how can I have the same setup with zebra?
04:00 rangi          the zebra indexes are files you can make sure you always have more than one copy and copy from there. Or you could investigate where youre latency is coming in from ES, it may be from the db
04:21 Reza           OK. Got it. I guess I could store zebra files on NFS and mount it to multiple app servers
06:34 reiveune       hello
06:42 josef_moravec  good morning #koha
06:51 alex_a         bonjour
06:51 wahanui        hi, alex_a
06:59 fridolin       hi dear community
07:07 josef_moravec  hi alex_a, fridolin
07:07 fridolin       hi josef watsup ?
07:29 * magnuse      waves
08:21 * andreashm    waves
08:53 andreashm      hi cait, I thought you were on vacation!
09:03 cait           i am :)
09:05 tuxayo         cait: then /kick cait :P
09:06 tuxayo         cait: unless you are here just to make jokes and not for doing any work ;)
09:08 * andreashm    hopes it's for the jokes.
09:08 andreashm      So, has your article been linked here cait?
09:08 andreashm      https://www.bsz-bw.de/publikationen/KohaFischerStelzenmuellerABITechnik2018.pdf
09:09 cait           hm?
09:09 andreashm      if, not there it is ^
09:09 cait           ah here = in chat :)
09:09 cait           not yet
09:09 cait           and our article :)
09:09 andreashm      very nice article!
09:09 cait           thank you!
09:12 andreashm      working my way through using google translate and my limited knowledge of German. =)
09:12 tuxayo         cait: the only thing I understand is that there is a disco ball page 7 so it looks cool :P
09:12 cait           and a bread baking automat
09:13 cait           it's a result list from one of the goethe libraires - some of them have 'libraries of things'
09:13 andreashm      =)
09:13 cait           :)
09:13 tuxayo         > bread baking automat
09:14 tuxayo         :D
09:18 cait           and a home planetarium...
10:47 * andreashm    waves again
11:42 marcelr        hi #koha
11:42 marcelr        bug 19799 is available for testing ;)
11:42 huginn         Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19799 normal, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Needs Signoff , Changing language on OPAC redirects back to homepage
11:43 oleonard       Hi #koha
11:43 marcelr        hi oleonard
11:43 wahanui        hi dear loon
11:51 cait           marcelr: do you know if i can set up https on a devbox?
11:51 marcelr        hi cait: probably you should, but you need to contact tomas about that
11:51 marcelr        if you only have http, you wont see tje problem
11:51 marcelr        the
11:52 cait           yeah, that explains
11:52 cait           thx for figuring that out
11:52 marcelr        just sufficiently annoyed this morning :)
11:54 cait           sometimes that works wonders
12:59 caroline       Good morning everyone!
12:59 oleonard       Hi caroline
13:03 jenkins        Project Koha_17.11_D8 build #78: SUCCESS in 35 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_17.11_D8/78/
13:03 jenkins        * gonzalez: Bug 20710: Update MARC21 frameworks to Update 26 (April 2018)
13:03 jenkins        * Jonathan Druart: Bug 21009: Fix max length of inputs on editing/adding items
13:03 jenkins        * Nick Clemens: Bug 19502: Limit pagination to first 10000 results when using ES
13:03 huginn         Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20710 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, bgkriegel, RESOLVED FIXED, Update MARC21 frameworks to Update 26 (April 2018)
13:03 jenkins        * Nick Clemens: Bug 19502: (follow-up) Pass parameters to avoid making templates depend
13:03 jenkins        * julian.maurice: Bug 19502: Retrieve index.max_result_window from ES
13:03 jenkins        * julian.maurice: Bug 19502: Remove debug warn
13:03 jenkins        * julian.maurice: Bug 19502: Add POD for max_result_window
13:03 huginn         Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=21009 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Stable , Max length of inputs on editing/adding items is broken
13:03 huginn         Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19502 normal, P5 - low, ---, nick, Pushed to Stable , Result sets limited to 10000
13:11 cait           fridolin: sandboxes still down :(
13:11 fridolin       cait: sorry our main sysop comes back tomorrow
13:12 cait           ah ok, will try again another day
13:29 * fridolin     in love with jenkins
13:40 tcohen         morning!
13:41 * andreashm    waves
13:42 oleonard       Hello waking-up people
13:46 andreashm      hi oleonard
13:46 wahanui        hi olé onard
13:50 dersmon        hi everyone
13:51 dersmon        i feel like i had that problem once before: when running `perl /usr/share/koha/bin/export_records.pl --record-type=bibs --filename=marc/koha_bibliographic.mrc` everything gets printed to the terminal instead of written into the specified file
13:51 dersmon        what am i missing?
14:20 jenkins        Project Koha_17.11_D8 build #79: SUCCESS in 32 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_17.11_D8/79/
14:20 jenkins        * mirko: Bug 20949: Koha depends on Clone
14:20 jenkins        * mirko: Bug 20949: (follow-up) debian/control
14:20 jenkins        * fridolin.somers: Bug 20953: Prevent several discharge requests on OPAC
14:20 huginn         Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20949 normal, P5 - low, ---, mirko, RESOLVED FIXED, Koha depends on Clone
14:20 jenkins        * Jonathan Druart: Bug 20919: Remove unecessary search calls on the biblio detail page
14:20 jenkins        * m.de.rooy: Bug 14446: Workaround to resolve uninitialized value in goto warning
14:20 huginn         Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20953 normal, P5 - low, ---, fridolin.somers, Pushed to Stable , Discharge can be requested several times on OPAC
14:20 jenkins        * Tomás Cohen Arazi: Bug 21023: Remove warning in t/db_dependent/Circulation/Chargelostitem.t
14:20 jenkins        * techservspec: Bug 20090: Missing script statement for Novelist Select on some record
14:20 jenkins        * Nick Clemens: Bug 20090: (RM follow-up) Add missing paren
14:20 jenkins        * pasi.kallinen: Bug 20332: Allow translating some grouped opac results texts
14:20 jenkins        * oleonard: Bug 20698: Remove obsolete template: transfer-slip.tt
14:20 huginn         Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20919 normal, P4, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Stable , A Zebra query is done for each item when opening a record detail page
14:20 jenkins        * charles.farmer: Bug 21025: Add GetPreparedLetter to Koha::Patron::Discharge
14:20 huginn         Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14446 trivial, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, RESOLVED FIXED, Resolve "Use of uninitialized value in goto" in admin/preferences.pl
14:20 huginn         Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=21023 trivial, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, RESOLVED FIXED, Remove warning in t/db_dependent/Circulation/Chargelostitem.t
14:20 huginn         Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20090 trivial, P5 - low, ---, techservspec, Pushed to Stable , Missing Script Statement for Novelist Select on Some Record Displays in OPAC
14:20 huginn         Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20332 trivial, P5 - low, ---, pasi.kallinen, Pushed to Stable , Untranslatable strings in grouped OPAC results
14:20 huginn         Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20698 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, RESOLVED FIXED, Remove obsolete template: transfer-slip.tt
14:20 huginn         Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=21025 minor, P5 - low, ---, charles.farmer, Pushed to Stable , Koha::Patron::Discharge is missing use C4::Letters
14:38 fridolin       17.11 is now fatter with patches );
14:38 fridolin       ;)
15:05 jenkins        Project Koha_17.11_D8 build #80: SUCCESS in 32 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_17.11_D8/80/
15:05 jenkins        * m.de.rooy: Bug 20900: Add CPL test branch in rollingloans.t
15:05 jenkins        * m.de.rooy: Bug 20900: Add CPL branch in t_Batch.t too
15:05 jenkins        * Nick Clemens: Bug 18822: Better error response
15:05 huginn         Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20900 minor, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Pushed to Stable , Yet another test assumes that CPL is present
15:05 jenkins        * Nick Clemens: Bug 18822: Check if we have MARC::Record and convert if not when using
15:05 huginn         Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18822 normal, P5 - low, ---, nick, Pushed to Stable , Advanced editor - Rancor - searching broken under Elasticsearch
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15:20 oleonard       Too slow this time, oftc anti-spam bot.
15:27 bag            good morning
15:27 wahanui        the only good morning is a dead one
15:28 oleonard       Hi bag
15:28 caroline       Good morning to the west coast!
15:28 * cait         waves :)
15:29 bag            :D
15:42 Freddy_Enrique Hi people!
15:44 caroline       Hello Freddy_Enrique !
15:45 Freddy_Enrique How are things over there caoline :)?
15:45 Freddy_Enrique caroline*
15:46 caroline       As usual :) Lots of work, it not boring! ;)
15:46 caroline       *it's
15:49 Freddy_Enrique Glad to hear it, here a little tired but going foward
15:54 reiveune       bye
16:01 cait           @wunder Konstanz
16:01 huginn         cait: Konstanz, Germany :: Clear :: 92F/33C | Wind Chill: 92F/33C | Heat Index: 92F/33C | Monday: Mainly clear. Lows overnight in the mid 60s. Monday Night: Clear skies. Low 66F. Winds light and variable.
16:11 oleonard       That's too many degrees
16:12 cait           i agre
16:12 cait           e
16:30 caroline       @wunder Montreal
16:30 huginn         caroline: Montreal Acres, MD :: Mostly Cloudy :: 75F/24C | Monday: Partly cloudy with a slight chance of thunderstorms. High 76F. Winds ESE at 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 30%. Monday Night: Showers early, then cloudy overnight. Low 67F. Winds E at 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 40%.
16:30 oleonard       @wunder 45701
16:30 huginn         oleonard: Athens, OH :: Partly Cloudy :: 75F/24C | Monday: Mainly cloudy. A few peeks of sunshine possible. A stray shower or thunderstorm is possible. High 81F. Winds light and variable. Monday Night: Scattered thunderstorms this evening becoming more widespread overnight. Low 66F. Winds light and variable. Chance of rain 80%.
16:30 caroline       lol! trying again
16:31 caroline       @wunder Montreal, QC
16:31 huginn         caroline: Error: I could not find a valid location for: Montreal, QC
16:31 caroline       @wunder Montreal, Canada
16:31 huginn         caroline: Montreal, Quebec :: Clear :: 79F/26C | Monday: Sunny. High 83F. Winds WSW at 5 to 10 mph. Monday Night: Partly cloudy skies. Low 67F. Winds light and variable.
16:31 caroline       cait how did you get the heat index?
16:37 Dyrcona        @wunder 01606
16:37 huginn         Dyrcona: Worcester, MA :: Clear :: 76F/24C | Monday: Sunny to partly cloudy. High 81F. Winds SW at 5 to 10 mph. Monday Night: Partly cloudy skies. Low 64F. Winds SW at 5 to 10 mph.
16:41 cait           oh sorry, didn't see the question
16:41 cait           caroline: not sure, it might just get data from a different source maybe?
16:42 oleonard       Yeah I think that's right.
16:42 caroline       cait: no worries! I was just wondering
16:47 Freddy_Enrique heh....
16:47 Freddy_Enrique @wunder Peru
16:47 huginn         Freddy_Enrique: Error: I got an error searching 'None'. (querynotfound: No cities match your search query)
16:47 Freddy_Enrique XD
16:48 Freddy_Enrique @wunder Perú, Lima
16:48 huginn         Freddy_Enrique: Error: I could not find a valid location for: Perú, Lima
16:51 oleonard       @wunder Lima, Peru
16:51 huginn         oleonard: Lima, Peru :: Rain :: 64F/18C | Wind Chill: 64F/18C | Monday: Generally cloudy. High near 65F. Winds ESE at 5 to 10 mph. Monday Night: Partly cloudy skies. Low 47F. Winds SE at 5 to 10 mph.
16:57 Freddy_Enrique =_=
16:57 Freddy_Enrique Thnks Oleonard
17:08 Freddy_Enrique koha-US has a new home on the web...
17:09 Freddy_Enrique new home? What does it mean? the official site will no longer be availñable?
17:15 oleonard       It is a new web site on a new domain: koha-us.org instead of koha-us.net
17:17 Freddy_Enrique I'd really love to be part of one of those meetings
17:18 Freddy_Enrique how difficult can it be?...
17:43 tcohen         @wunder cordoba, argentina
17:43 huginn         tcohen: Cordoba, Argentina :: Clear :: 59F/15C | Monday: Lots of sunshine. High 64F. Winds ESE at 5 to 10 mph. Monday Night: A clear sky. Low near 35F. Winds light and variable.
18:00 wolverineHd    Hello!
18:00 wolverineHd    Good afternoon everybody from Argentina!
18:01 caroline       Hello!
18:01 tcohen         hola wolverineHd
18:01 wolverineHd    Hola
18:01 wahanui        bidet, wolverineHd
18:02 wolverineHd    Need some help with a basic configuration in koha / Necesito ayuda con una configuración básica de Koha
18:03 wolverineHd    Is this the right place to ask?
18:03 caroline       yep
18:06 wolverineHd    I modified the default worksheet for cataloguing bibliographic resources, then I catalogue a single resource, then I get to the Add Item page
18:06 tcohen         go on
18:06 wolverineHd    And i get something like this [img following link] https://drive.google.com/open?id=1-NHrGV5dMMv7q21vSm7h5Ck08X1nEfAs
18:07 wolverineHd    I've got no place to enter item details
18:07 tcohen         wolverineHd: borraste el campo 042 de la hoja de trabajo?
18:07 tcohen         *942*
18:07 tcohen         y *952*?
18:08 wolverineHd    No tcohen, están ambos ahí...
18:08 wolverineHd    ¿Si uso la hoja de trabajo predeterminada, obtengo resultados distintos a la hora de cargar los item?
18:09 tcohen         tradicionalmente, los items eran codificados en el campo 952, y si bien ya no van alli, las hojas de trabajo los tratan ahi
18:09 tcohen         dependiendo de la hoja de trabajo, y la configuracion para el 952, lo que muestra (o no)
18:10 tcohen         quizas estan pero los ocultaste?
18:10 tcohen         es lo unico que cambiaste?
18:11 wolverineHd    No, la cambié bastante...
18:11 wolverineHd    Ahora me fijo si quedaron ocultas
18:11 tcohen         que estas tratando de hacer?
18:12 tcohen         porque ademas de los subcampos, esta el mapeo a la tabla items
18:12 tcohen         son varias piezas que tenes que modificar juntas
18:14 wolverineHd    Lo que quise hacer era armar una hoja de trabajo más cómoda para catalogar los recursos de esta biblioteca en la que trabajo, implementando koha desde cero.
18:14 wolverineHd    Es una biblioteca escolar.
18:16 wolverineHd    https://drive.google.com/open?id=1EoqNOdfi2zbHgH0C3SDFujHLnwfzVbsj
18:17 wolverineHd    Esos son los campos del 952, vinculados, creo con la tabla items...
18:34 tcohen         cambiaste algo en los templates de Koha?
18:44 Joubu          algo en los logs?
18:52 wolverineHd    No. Estoy cargando uno a través de z39.50 a ver si al final tampoco me deja ver los item
18:54 Freddy_Enrique tradicionalmente? wait wait wait... Si ya no es el campo 952, que campo se utiliza ahora para modificar los items?
18:54 Freddy_Enrique WolverineHd, que tal. Por casualidad tu hiciste la implementacion?
18:55 wolverineHd    Sí, la hice yo.
18:55 wolverineHd    Ahora haciendo una importación arribé sin problemas a la pantalla de carga del item
18:56 wolverineHd    Evidentemente me mandé alguna macana con la hoja de trabajo
18:56 Freddy_Enrique La hoja predeterminada no se usa por recomendacion. Lo que se hace es exportarla, e importarla nuevamente con otro nombre
18:58 Freddy_Enrique Ahora... muy importante aun es no modificar esa hoja predeterminada. Ya que de hacerlo puedes tener problemas; esa hoja no se toca
19:02 Freddy_Enrique BTW guys... is it possible to enable the https only by using the koha-create --letsencrypt?
19:03 Freddy_Enrique I tried, but wasnt successful. Maybe I'm not using the right command... Or perhaps there's something else to it
19:05 wolverineHd    Sí, ¡claro! Muchas gracias
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20:37 disi           I thought you guys might be interested in this blog by freenode staff member Bryan 'kloeri' Ostergaard https://bryanostergaard.com/
20:37 disi           or maybe this blog by freenode staff member Matthew 'mst' Trout https://MattSTrout.com/
20:37 disi           Read what IRC investigative journalists have uncovered on the freenode pedophilia scandal https://encyclopediadramatica.rs/Freenodegate
20:42 newtmewt       With our IRC ad service you can reach a global audience of entrepreneurs and fentanyl addicts with extraordinary engagement rates! https://williampitcock.com/
20:42 newtmewt       I thought you guys might be interested in this blog by freenode staff member Bryan 'kloeri' Ostergaard https://bryanostergaard.com/
20:42 newtmewt       or maybe this blog by freenode staff member Matthew 'mst' Trout https://MattSTrout.com/
20:42 newtmewt       Read what IRC investigative journalists have uncovered on the freenode pedophilia scandal https://encyclopediadramatica.rs/Freenodegate
20:57 rangi          morning
20:57 rangi          so many spammers these days
20:58 cait           yeah
20:58 cait           morning rangi
20:59 caroline       hello people from the future!
20:59 bag            morning
20:59 bag            whoops meant morning rangi
20:59 rangi          :)
21:20 Joubu          yeah, we should clean the logs at some point...
21:21 rangi          yep
21:21 rangi          ill put it on my list
21:22 * cait         waves
21:27 cait           @wunder Konstanz
21:28 huginn         cait: Konstanz, Germany :: Clear :: 75F/24C | Wind Chill: 75F/24C | Monday: Clear. Lows overnight in the mid 60s. Monday Night: Clear skies. Low 66F. Winds light and variable.
21:28 cait           24.... close to midnight
21:28 cait           *sigh*
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21:42 Ceber          I thought you guys might be interested in this blog by freenode staff member Bryan 'kloeri' Ostergaard https://bryanostergaard.com/
21:42 Ceber          or maybe this blog by freenode staff member Matthew 'mst' Trout https://MattSTrout.com/
21:42 Ceber          Read what IRC investigative journalists have uncovered on the freenode pedophilia scandal https://encyclopediadramatica.rs/Freenodegate
22:00 caroline       ttyl everybody!
22:27 simon_-_       With our IRC ad service you can reach a global audience of entrepreneurs and fentanyl addicts with extraordinary engagement rates! https://williampitcock.com/
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22:28 simon_-_       Read what IRC investigative journalists have uncovered on the freenode pedophilia scandal https://encyclopediadramatica.rs/Freenodegate