Time  Nick       Message
01:47 tcohen     hi
01:47 wahanui    bidet, tcohen
01:49 wizzyrea   hi
04:43 Oak        Guys, new Koha installation I did. Things have changed... w.r.t. Zebra? There is an indexer and there is a commented line in cron.d (old style). Zebra keeps stopping daily.
04:44 Oak        Logs (zebra-error) have a message like "20180724 07:35:23 brightstar-koha-zebra: client (pid 3043) killed by signal 15, stopping"
04:49 Oak        Server is a VM on cloud.
05:20 kivilahtio Oak: a lot of things have changed :D
05:21 kivilahtio Oak: are you doing the now unsupported dev install or using Debian-packages?
05:21 kivilahtio Oak: Or using the Ansible-Koha-Dev ?
05:21 kivilahtio https://github.com/digibib/kohadevbox
05:21 Oak        Debian package :0
05:22 kivilahtio Oak: what does w.r.t mean?
05:22 Oak        with respect to
05:22 kivilahtio ok, thanks
05:25 kivilahtio Oak: migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl -b -a
05:25 kivilahtio seems to work for us
05:25 kivilahtio Oak: 17.05
05:26 kivilahtio Oak: on the hindsight you are prolly speaking of the newest Koha-version...
05:27 kivilahtio Oak: is it restarting or actually dying and not servicing?
05:27 Oak        Just dying randomly
05:28 kivilahtio Oak: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/16723626/what-is-signal-15-received
05:29 kivilahtio Oak: I don't think I can help you with this problem. We have never experienced anything liek that
05:29 kivilahtio It could be that some Koha maintenance command tries to restart it every day. For ex from cron.d
05:29 kivilahtio or cron.daily
05:30 kivilahtio but that is really a hipshot
05:32 kivilahtio If your problem appears daily, cron.daily doesn't havea guaranteed time to run, except that it runs daily, if the server is on.
05:32 kivilahtio Oak: but it should be predictable, if your server is on 24/7
05:32 Oak        Cool, thanks kivilahtio. I'm searching as well.
05:37 kivilahtio Oak: these signals are really difficult matters to debug.
05:37 kivilahtio Oak: One appraoch is to try to intercepts which pid is sending the kill-signal
05:37 kivilahtio https://stackoverflow.com/questions/6296374/how-in-perl-5-can-i-get-the-pid-of-the-process-who-sent-me-a-signal
05:38 Oak        That's a really good tip actually
05:38 Oak        :)
05:38 kivilahtio Oak: but that approach is packed with caveats
05:38 kivilahtio Oak: like the process sending the kill -15 might be gone when you try to figure out more info
05:43 kivilahtio Is there any WIP on Authorities with ElasticSearch
05:54 kivilahtio looks like some. https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19365
05:54 huginn     Bug 19365: major, P5 - low, ---, ere.maijala, ASSIGNED , link_bibs_to_authorities.pl doesn't work with Elasticsearch
06:26 * magnuse  waves
06:38 reiveune   hello
06:38 wahanui    bonjour, reiveune
06:47 alex_a     bonjour
06:47 wahanui    hola, alex_a
07:28 gaetan_B   hello
07:37 gaetan_B   your irc passwords might have been compromised
07:38 gaetan_B   i have received an extorsion email that mentions my irc password (which is weak and only used on irc since the protocol cannot be trusted)
07:38 gaetan_B   time to change your passwords ;)
07:58 cait       good morning #koha
08:17 dersmon    hi everyone
08:18 dersmon    i got disconnected yesterday, so sorry if for asking the same question again: is there a documentation on setting up koha+elasticsearch when installing from github? i only found the devbox and the instructions for configuring an package-installation of koha
08:19 dersmon    and i got another one: how would you go about linking titles using 773 subfield 0 automatically? based for example on the linked item's title
08:36 cait       dersmon: i think there is no script to do the linking right now
08:36 cait       is this for easyanalytics?
08:37 cait       for elasticsearch... i'd refer to the wiki or ask a bit later, when more people are around working actively on elasticsearch
08:40 eythian    cait: can you folks please stop drinking from the Rijn. We're running out of water over here!
08:47 cait       but... it's so hot here!
08:52 dersmon    the linking is just for making it more explicte, otherwise the interface just searches for the linked items title
08:52 cait       i think different fields can be used for linking
08:52 cait       we use $w --> $0
08:52 cait       sorry
08:53 cait       773$w --> 001 (parent)
08:53 cait       i'd catalog a test title first to be sure it works like you want
08:53 cait       $0 is usually only used for authority linking, not between records, but there might be a koha feature there i am not aware of
08:55 dersmon    ok
08:56 dersmon    when using 773$w, the link is still realised by searching the title in $a
08:56 cait       ah, you would need to turn on UseControlnumber
08:56 cait       systempreference
08:56 wahanui    systempreference is set to match the way it was in 3.6.
08:57 cait       but it only works if you are not using EeasyAnalytics... so some decision to make
08:57 cait       i am not sure, but it hink EasyAnalytics might use $9
08:57 cait       @marc 773$0
08:57 huginn     cait: unknown tag 773$0
08:57 cait       @marc 773 9
08:57 huginn     cait: unknown field/subfield combination (773/9)
08:58 cait       @marc 773 0
08:58 huginn     cait: unknown field/subfield combination (773/0)
08:58 cait       $0 §9 are both non-standard, so maybe used by Easyanalytics
09:03 eythian    cait: it's hot enough here that 12 bridges can't be opened to let boats through as the expansion has locked them shut.
09:05 dersmon    the systempreference did the trick, thanks
09:07 cait       eythian: ouch
09:08 cait       eythian: we really need some rain here, where i was this weeekend it rained a lot... but almost none here
09:10 dersmon    where are you eythian?
09:10 eythian    cait: yeah, we're hitting drought. Which for a waterlogged country is quite something.
09:10 eythian    dersmon: Amsterdam
09:10 wahanui    well, Amsterdam is nice.
09:10 eythian    wahanui: it's true
09:10 wahanui    I saw it on Digg!
09:11 eythian    no wahanui, it's true is <reply>\I read it in a book!
09:11 * eythian  glares at wahanui
09:11 eythian    wahanui: it's true is <reply>\I read it in a book!
09:11 wahanui    ...but it's true is <reply>I read it on the internet!|<reply>I saw it on Digg!...
09:11 eythian    no wahanui: it's true is <reply>\I read it in a book!
09:11 eythian    hmm
09:11 eythian    weird
10:05 magnuse    gah! why is a search like /cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?q=historie&limit=branch%3A11225 showing items from more than the selected branch? i have it working on another instance...
10:06 cait       how are you limiting to the branch?
10:07 cait       I think if you only want to see this branches you need more config
10:07 cait       i am not sure it's possible even?
10:07 cait       I guess there are items of the branch you limited to and anothers?
10:13 magnuse    trying to set up multiple opacs for one instance. <input name="limit" value="branch:11225" type="hidden"> is added to the simple search form
10:14 magnuse    hm, yeah, maybe the other instance has no overlap between the collections
11:14 cait       magnuse: not sure if it's possible
11:15 cait       magnuse: hm an idea, not sue if it would work: overwrite the opachidden system preference
11:15 cait       hiding the items from the branch
11:30 magnuse    cait: ooh, that might work!
12:06 Joubu      @later tell Oak about the daily stop of zebra: disable anacron
12:06 huginn     Joubu: The operation succeeded.
12:06 magnuse    cait++ for being a genious!
12:07 kohaputti  What's the procedure of fixing bugs in https://github.com/Koha-Community/Koha/tree/master/api/v1/swagger/paths ? Can I just edit them directly and send a patch or is there some program I need to run to make the changes.
12:07 kohaputti  like do I need to run some formatter or minifier before submitting the patch
12:08 Joubu      kohaputti: https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Getting_involved
12:09 Joubu      from this page you should find whatever you want
12:09 kohaputti  I searched the wiki for openapi validation but not many results
12:09 Joubu      sorry, wrong answer. You wanted something more specific :)
12:11 kohaputti  https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Rest_Api_HowTo – the step 6 on that page could have maybe more information about this
12:12 kohaputti  or step 3.
12:12 Joubu      https://gitlab.com/koha-community/koha-misc4dev/blob/master/koha_schema_to_openapi.pl ?
12:14 kidclamp   Joubu - did you figure out what was giving you troubles on scss?
12:14 kohaputti  I could probably infer the formatting rules from that
12:14 Joubu      kidclamp: there was a bug in the patch, oleonard fixed it
12:15 Joubu      kohaputti: tcohen is the one to ask for
12:15 kohaputti  Joubu, btw, I used to use the nick "Putti" before so you might remember me from ~2 years ago from this channel.
12:15 kohaputti  Joubu, and thanks for the tips
12:15 kidclamp   excellent! one question oleonard - the patches gave me a warning about graident syntax, but file name and line numbers were wrong
12:16 oleonard   kidclamp: That is a mystery to me.
12:17 kidclamp   remove the 'to' from in front of a gradient definition and you should be able to recreate - I don't think it is blocker, seems to be something in autoprefix but I don't know what
12:19 oleonard   kidclamp: I mean to say: I get that too and it has been a mystery to me since forever.
12:39 cait       magnuse: now you got to document that somewhere ;)
12:39 magnuse    hehe, guess i do
13:19 caroline   Hello all!
13:19 wahanui    Hello all! is there a way of linking the authorities in koha? link 550$a to 001 or control no.? linking done by adding 550$0 of the term
13:19 caroline   Oh, I'd forgotten about that
13:19 oleonard   wahanui: forget Hello all!
13:19 wahanui    oleonard, I didn't have anything matching hello all
13:19 oleonard   I had a feeling you'd say that wahanui
13:19 oleonard   Hi caroline
13:20 caroline   Hi oleonard !
13:43 tcohen     hola kohaputti
13:44 kohaputti  tcohen, hey
13:46 kohaputti  tcohen, do you have some tool to format those openapi files? If not, maybe it would be good idea to have one.
13:48 tcohen     jq
13:48 tcohen     you mean a UI for inspecting the API?
13:49 kohaputti  no, but for getting the whitespace right
13:49 kohaputti  like if everybody uses a tool of their liking we end up with all the files being formatted in a different way
14:14 tcohen     kohaputti: if you have something in mind, just let me know
14:15 tcohen     I basically start with koha_schema_to_openapi
14:15 tcohen     then adjust it
14:15 tcohen     koha_schema_to_api uses jq for formatting
14:15 kohaputti  I don't have anything mind yet, but as I start developing koha again maybe I will find some tools. I will let you know then. And thanks for telling your process!
14:20 dersmon    is there a depedency list on what i need installed for using elastic search? i am not installing koha as a package, instead i'm building everything based on a git clone
14:27 oleonard   Koha interface blast from the past: http://www.townx.org/blog/elliot/koha-open-source-library-management-system
14:29 caroline   oh boy! So colourful, it reminds me of OPALS
14:31 oleonard   http://www.asic.upv.es/sta/manuales/alternativas_software_libre/capturas/498-0.jpg
15:23 reiveune   bye
15:31 Nemo_bis   moi kohaputti :)
15:33 huginn     News from kohagit: Bug 20287: (RM follow-up) Restore use C4::Members <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=7248191cee3a7981416253d4035533a39f07cbab>
15:46 caroline   Anybody doing translation is here right now?
15:54 cait       caroline: kind of here
15:54 cait       what's the question?
15:54 wahanui    the question is "What is the meaning of life, the universe and everything?"
15:55 caroline   Hi cait! I was wondering in pref.po, what do I do with something like "acquisitions.pref#AcqCreateItem# This is only the default behavior, and can be changed per-basket." Do I leave acquisitions.pref#AcqCreateItem# ?
15:56 cait       no
15:56 cait       the pref po is a bit different than the others
15:56 cait       for the translation, you cut off the part in the front
15:56 cait       and start with This is...
15:56 cait       they are generated to keep them sorted
15:56 cait       usually the po files are alphabetic which would make it hard to translate the sentences, to the prefix helps you see whch pref and all the *parts* are together
15:57 caroline   ah ok! So if it's just "acquisitions.pref" I write nothing?
15:57 cait       i think so
15:57 cait       it's been a while :)
15:57 cait       but yes, that would be the pattern I think
15:57 caroline   Ok thank you!
16:00 jenkins    Project Koha_Master_U18 build #14: STILL UNSTABLE in 25 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U18/14/
16:03 jenkins    Project Koha_Master_D9 build #514: STILL UNSTABLE in 28 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9/514/
16:11 jenkins    Project Koha_Master_D8 build #15: STILL UNSTABLE in 33 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D8/15/
22:04 caroline   Good night everyone!
22:05 rangi      ooh i notice the tentative schedule is up
22:06 rangi      https://kohacon2018.bywatersolutions.com/schedule.html