Time Nick Message 18:59 oleonard Bye all 18:16 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7547 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , printing a sorted cart 18:16 oleonard Bug 7547, better late than never. 17:59 oleonard Hm, when did we get column visibility on opac-details.pl? I just noticed it. 17:52 cait i can help 17:52 cait ashimema: did you figure out how ot add images? 17:45 eythian whoever wahanui's caretaker is these days can modify the database. 17:43 wahanui eythian: sorry... 17:43 eythian wahanui: you heard me 17:43 wahanui eythian: what? 17:43 eythian wahanui has never really had it all together 17:42 wahanui oleonard: sorry... 17:42 oleonard wahanui broke us. 17:42 cait we broke wahanui 17:41 eythian I don't think it's possible 17:41 eythian hmm 17:40 wahanui That doesn't contain '!', eythian 17:40 eythian wahanui: hello all! =~ s/!/#/ 17:40 eythian hello all! =~ s/!/#/ 17:39 eythian It might be impossible 17:38 caroline https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uyV0IVItlM4 17:38 eythian I need my computer for this 17:38 wahanui eythian, I didn't have anything matching hello all\ 17:38 eythian wahanui: forget hello all\! 17:37 caroline you guys remind me of a scene in "IT Crowd" where the boss constantly yell "hello computer" at his computer 17:36 cait well, 154 days until next koha release... no time to rest! 17:36 cait eythian: ? 17:36 wahanui cait, I didn't have anything matching reply hello all 17:36 cait wahanui forget reply hello all 17:36 wahanui cait, I didn't have anything matching reply it has been said o all! is there a way of linking the authorities in koha? link 550$a to 001 or control no.? linking done by adding 550$0 of the term 17:36 cait wahanui forget reply it has been said that hello all! is there a way of linking the authorities in koha? link 550$a to 001 or control no.? linking done by adding 550$0 of the term 17:35 cait forget reply hello all! 17:33 oleonard hello all!!! 17:33 caroline guys, I'll just not greet with "hello all", don't agonize over wahanui 17:30 wahanui Joubu, I didn't have anything matching 'hello all!' 17:30 Joubu wahanui: forget 'hello all!' 17:30 wahanui rumour has it stupid bot is :( 17:30 Joubu wahanui: stupid bot 17:30 wahanui Joubu, I didn't have anything matching hello all 17:30 Joubu wahanui: forget hello all! 17:30 wahanui it has been said that hello all! is there a way of linking the authorities in koha? link 550$a to 001 or control no.? linking done by adding 550$0 of the term 17:30 Joubu wahanui: hello all!? 17:30 wahanui joubu: i haven't a clue 17:30 Joubu wahanui: hello all? 17:30 wahanui Joubu, I didn't have anything matching "hello all!" 17:30 Joubu wahanui: forget "hello all!" 17:30 wahanui Joubu, I didn't have anything matching hello all 17:30 Joubu wahanui: forget hello all 17:29 Joubu forget hello all 17:29 oleonard It's forever. 17:28 wahanui oleonard, I didn't have anything matching hello all\ 17:28 oleonard wahanui: Forget hello all\! 17:28 wahanui oleonard, I didn't have anything matching hello all 17:28 oleonard wahanui: Forget hello all! 17:22 caroline um? 17:21 wahanui hello all! is there a way of linking the authorities in koha? link 550$a to 001 or control no.? linking done by adding 550$0 of the term 17:21 caroline hello all! 16:02 barton there we go. 16:02 wahanui https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Glossary 16:02 barton glossary? 16:02 barton glossary is <reply> https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Glossary 16:01 wahanui barton: I forgot glossary 16:01 barton forget glossary 16:01 wahanui i heard glossary was https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Glossary 16:01 barton glossary? 16:01 barton glossary is https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Glossary 16:00 oleonard cool, barton, thanks 15:50 ashimema so there's no real reason not to just use the ..image directive directly? 15:50 barton hey all, Bywater keeps a glossary of koha related terms, I figured that it would probably be useful for the community, so I put it here: https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Glossary 15:49 ashimema I imagine so 15:48 ashimema mmm 15:48 ashimema thanks for the hint anyways 15:48 Joubu I guess it comes from the migration from docbook 15:48 ashimema wow.. so we map an image1234 to a full path.. 15:48 Joubu yes, it's not perfect. We should use meaningful codes to use from .rst 15:47 ashimema ok 15:46 ashimema mm.. 15:45 Joubu ashimema: images are listed in source/images.rst 15:44 Joubu do you have a specific question? 15:39 ashimema confused.. how are the images working in the manual 15:33 ashimema cheers cait1 15:31 Rokoh thank's oleonard i keep searching in manual and forums :) 15:30 cait1 bye #koha 15:30 cait1 maybe talk to Leej when he is back? I think he will be back beginning of July 15:29 cait1 and docs team has a taiga 15:29 cait1 ashimema: we use keyword: manual or documentation i think 15:29 ashimema this'll be the third one I've added to a comment in a bug.. comments are lost too easily ;) 15:28 ashimema who should I ask about getting a field added to bugzilla.. I think it would be great to have a 'koha-manual update request' field to add a link to the associated gitlab koha-manual merge request for bugs 15:27 oleonard Sorry Rokoh I guess there's no one around who knows about that 15:13 Rokoh Hi everybody i'm new koha i made recently an installation on my lab server and i have difficulty with LDAP authentification with an Active Directory on 2008 server, someone already do that ? or have a conf file for check my conf please 15:04 lavamind tcohen: if you want to discuss my project with Koha, I'm available 15:01 reiveune bye 14:43 matts hi tcohen 14:42 tcohen hi matts 14:26 cait they have a shiny university library 14:26 cait ah nice :) 14:26 matts Lovely city 14:26 matts cait, not far from my place, Freiburg im Breisgau, Baden-Württemberg. 14:25 eythian Not me, I'm going to Koeln. 14:25 cait and who si visiting me? 14:25 cait :) 14:25 eythian oh yeah, I'm going next month too. 14:25 cait thx for checking, wonder how i'd missed that - brain is overheating 14:24 cait ah cool, where to? 14:24 * matts gotta practice his german. Going to Germany this week-end 14:23 matts cait, ok, it was missing, I'll add it and we're good to go ! 14:21 cait Bestellungen 14:20 matts cait, got it. How would you translate "Orders" ? 14:09 cait it feels a lot warmer 14:09 huginn` oleonard: Athens, OH :: Overcast :: 71F/22C | Thursday: Cloudy early, then thunderstorms developing this afternoon. High 77F. Winds light and variable. Chance of rain 100%. Thursday Night: Thunderstorms likely this evening. Then the chance of scattered thunderstorms overnight. Low 67F. Winds light and variable. Chance of rain 100%. 14:09 oleonard @wunder 45701 14:09 huginn` cait: Konstanz, Germany :: Clear :: 84F/29C | Wind Chill: 84F/29C | Heat Index: 84F/29C | Thursday: Mainly cloudy. A few peeks of sunshine possible. High near 85F. Winds NW at 10 to 20 mph. Thursday Night: Evening clouds will give way to clearing overnight. Low 49F. Winds N at 10 to 15 mph. 14:09 cait @wunder Konstanz 14:06 cait matts: sent! 14:00 cait then... 13:58 cait ok, doing that, thatn committing :) 13:58 matts you can create all the mo. Won't hurt. 13:57 cait that would be really nice 13:57 matts cait, I can check for you and ping if something went wrong 13:57 cait shoudl i create all .mo? even for the files where no strings changed? 13:57 cait just hoping it will work 13:57 cait i can#t test - my dev coral is broken 13:57 matts did you restart apache/php ? Some translation cache occurs. 13:57 cait in our coral 3 all tabs are untranslated 13:56 cait yeah, but it isn't picked up 13:56 matts msgstr "Erwerbung" 13:56 matts msgid "Acquisitions" 13:56 matts see line 1117 13:56 cait 3 beta 13:56 cait in our system they are all in English with the current files 13:56 cait hm odd 13:55 matts cait, that's because the others are already picked-up by gettext and translated before in the file. 13:55 cait for example looking for 'aquisitions 13:55 cait ah i see some, but not all 13:54 matts :) 13:54 matts oops, i meant "right" 13:54 cait *hides* 13:54 matts RIGHT 13:54 cait resources, right? 13:54 cait checking now 13:54 matts see lines 3734 to 3744 13:53 cait poedit didn't find them 13:53 cait hmm strange 13:53 matts cait, yes, I added the missing msgid at the end of the file 13:53 cait you said the file woudl be amended or something? 13:53 cait just the tab thing unclear now 13:51 cait ok, will take a look at the file 13:51 matts cait, % should be escaped as %% for gettext. I think this is reason why poedit complains. 13:49 cait only had a very few strings in resources and usage (which is nice, but wondering) 13:49 cait should they be in resources? 13:49 cait also not seeing the tab descriptions 13:49 cait strange 13:49 matts cait, poedit didn't yell at me when editing the FR file. 13:47 cait matts: % over must be a number. give me an error in poedit because of the % - any advice? 13:41 cait should hopefully not take too long :) 13:41 cait ok, working on it now 13:41 matts cait, perfectly fine, yes 13:41 matts hi oleonard :) 13:41 cait i think i can't push to github - is a patch file ok? 13:41 * oleonard waves to matts 13:41 cait :) 13:41 matts cait, around indeed 13:40 cait matts around? 13:36 cait and the diff view 13:36 cait love staged import 13:36 cait koha++ 13:36 cait :) 13:34 kidclamp thanks oleonard 13:21 oleonard \\o \o\ \o/ /o/ o// 13:20 tcohen \o/ 13:15 * oleonard fires up his PowerPoint, unfolds his tri-fold display, cues the dance troupe 13:12 kidclamp :-b 13:12 kidclamp hmm? what? no, I have never heard of this 13:11 oleonard ;) 13:11 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19474 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Passed QA , Convert staff client CSS to SCSS 13:11 oleonard Oh hi kidclamp have you heard the good news about bug 19474? 13:05 gaetan_B re 13:05 gaetan_B hello 12:51 cait good morning tcohen 12:50 tcohen morning 12:35 oleonard Hi all 12:30 tuxayo Joubu :D 12:24 Joubu tuxayo: it's on my list 12:19 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15395 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Signed Off , Internationalization: plural forms, context, and more 12:19 tuxayo Can a QAer check bug 15395 and tell what is the next step to move it forward? I would be happy to help there instead of working on issues that are caused by the current translation system. 12:16 ashimema though that rapidly grows the method names 12:16 ashimema true.. suppose all methods like that could be prepended with `filter_by_` or something along those lines 12:14 Joubu ashimema: ->last_seen(DateTime) reads like a setter, not a filter 12:14 Joubu hi #koha 12:10 ashimema cheers :) 12:09 kidclamp https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Coding_Guidelines#PERL16:_Hashrefs_should_be_used_as_arguments 12:09 ashimema we encourage hashref generally now don't we 12:09 kidclamp I think we prefer hashrefs 12:08 ashimema do we already have any coding guidlines on that.. the whole fat array vs hashref as params? 12:08 kidclamp indeed 12:08 ashimema for clarity 12:08 ashimema in which case you'd want it as a hashref rather than fat array too 12:07 ashimema that could be easy enough to include 12:07 ashimema oh.. I hadn't even thought about that combination.. cool 12:07 kidclamp khall^ 12:07 kidclamp but kidclamp is not always right 12:07 kidclamp the latter I think, because I want to do last_issued({after => $yore, before => $recent}); 12:05 * ashimema likes to promote internal api discussion 12:04 ashimema `->issued_since(DateTime)` and `not_issued_since(DateTime)` methods or `->last_issued(since => DateTime)` and `last_issued(before => DateTime)` 12:02 ashimema next question 11:58 * fridolin in the hot summer of Marseille 11:58 fridolin hi thre 11:41 ashimema that'salready all of subs that do very nearly the same thing 11:40 ashimema else people will end up nearly duplicating allot of routines.. for example `search_patrons_for_delete`, `search_patrons_for_anonymize`, `search_patrons_for_category_change`.. 11:39 ashimema I reckon the final option I came up with makes the most sense from a DRY perspective 11:36 ashimema as chaining means invoking DBIx::Classes merge functions 11:36 ashimema hmm.. suppose the params might be very slightly more performant 11:36 ashimema nope 11:35 kidclamp is there any perf bonus either way? 11:35 kidclamp I think I like params better, but chaining may be easier to read (until it becomes a long chain) 11:35 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11983 normal, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, NEW , code to select patrons to purge needs to be centralized 11:34 ashimema I'll submit some alternatives on bug 11983 11:34 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17168 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, nick, Signed Off , Add a command line script for updating patron category based on status 11:34 ashimema it sorta relates to my comments on bug 17168 11:33 ashimema where ->filter_for_x internally just chained 11:32 ashimema you could even have both sets 11:32 ashimema or `->last_seen(DateTime)->expired_befor(DateTime);` 11:32 ashimema where last_seen and expired_before are both optional 11:31 ashimema example `->filter_for_x({last_seen => DateTime, expired_before => DateTime});` 11:31 kidclamp can you give an example? 11:30 ashimema this is in relation to Koha::Objects.. 11:30 ashimema do you guys think it's simpler to understand chaining search methods or having more parameters in a single method? 11:28 ashimema OK.. want some thoughts devs 10:18 ashimema lol 10:13 kidclamp let's devote the first day of hackfest this year to building time turners 10:12 ashimema but never had the time to devote to it. 10:12 ashimema I've been promising an Auth overhaul for years 10:12 ashimema haha 10:12 kidclamp it needs an overhaul , but I don't want to touch Auth, I have enough Acq patches to keep me happy 10:11 ashimema ldap flows are evil 10:11 ashimema yeah.. me too after running around in circles numerious times the other day 10:10 kidclamp yes, we found that out a while back, we define user and pass even when not used now 10:09 ashimema the logic in that module is really really hard to follow 10:09 ashimema but.. if you don't set user and password.. you end up doing an anon bind then search which is completely different logic and a such often completely fail auth 10:08 ashimema did you know if you set 'auth_by_bind' and also 'user' and 'password' that the user and password login is never used now. 10:07 ashimema I had some real fun testing it after an upgrade for a customer a few days ago 10:07 ashimema there's some crazy logic in LDAP now btw.. 10:07 ashimema :) 10:06 kidclamp testing it now 10:05 ashimema :) 10:05 ashimema I've just marked yours as a dupe as I've posted a patch to the other one 10:05 ashimema so I don't blame you for missing it ;) 10:05 ashimema well until just now the title of my bug is entirely different 10:04 kidclamp :-) your number is lower, so I think the mistake is mine 10:03 ashimema I just renamed the original bug to almost match yours so we didn't end up with a dupe.. but neglected to check whether one had happend in the interim 10:03 ashimema lol 10:02 ashimema when did it apepar 10:02 ashimema I hadn't seen that one.. 10:02 ashimema oh.. yes 09:51 huginn` Bug 20943: normal, P5 - low, ---, nick, NEW , Cannot enable shibboleth and LDAP at the same time 09:51 kidclamp ahsimema: same thing? https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20943 09:40 tuxayo bywater++ 09:29 cait congrats bywater! https://librarytechnology.org/pr/23559 09:29 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8937 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Translation process removes CDATA in HTML 09:29 tuxayo Does anyone know if it's possible to the touch to the translation system without blowing everything up? ^^" (to prevent it from eating CDATA section in HTML/XML) bug 8937 09:27 tuxayo Hi #koha o/ :) 07:40 ashimema i.e. make sure you have 'ticket' but don't have $password present 07:40 ashimema seems we now don't fallback through each available mechanism the same way we used to.. the fix for shib was simple enough.. I 'think' it's likely the same thing for CAS 07:39 ashimema I'm not entirely sure how/when the regression came in... but it's a combination of how LDAP now returns and the explicit local fallback logic 07:38 matts Sure, I'll have a look at it. 07:37 ashimema if your interested matts 07:37 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20879 major, P1 - high, ---, martin.renvoize, NEW , Shibboleth matchpoint no longer works after upgrade to 17.11 07:37 ashimema bug 20879 07:37 gaetan_B hello 07:36 ashimema I just had an interesting regression come to light and I think it'll affect CAS too 07:36 ashimema had a feeling not 07:36 matts Hmm, don't think we have used this combination. 07:35 ashimema anyone using CAS authentication along with LDAP as a fallback in combination? 07:35 matts hi 07:34 huginn` ashimema: matts was last seen in #koha 2 weeks, 1 day, 23 hours, 2 minutes, and 59 seconds ago: <matts> ^^ 07:34 ashimema @seen matts 07:17 huginn` cait: The operation succeeded. 07:17 cait @later tell Joubu we had problems in patron search with following characters: non-printable, double quotes, backslash, and \x11 according to the migration scripts that we adapted with each problem found 06:52 ashimema Good Morning #koha 06:39 alex_a bonjour 06:38 reiveune hello