Time  Nick           Message
22:03 Luis           Thanks lukeG
21:59 cait           that's the message shown to patrons during an update
21:59 cait           the web installer is available from the staff URL
21:59 cait           Luis: you are looking at the opac, not the staff side
21:47 Luis           anyone know about it, thanks!
21:47 Luis           The Koha online catalog is offline for system maintenance. We'll be back soon! If you have any questions, please contact the site    administrator
21:47 Luis           I'm getting this error when lauch the web installer
21:46 Luis           Hi all
21:25 cait           i am looking a the catealogue permission for the update, so not sure what's up with borrowres?
21:22 huginn         Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11911 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Signed Off , Purchase suggestions can be accessed by all staff members / no specific permission
21:22 cait           Joubu: can you help me with your comment on bug 11911?
19:31 LeeJ           >.<
19:31 LeeJ           whoops..that conflict is on me I think
19:29 tcohen         thanks, and bummer
19:28 Joubu          ha, schedule colision...
19:28 Joubu          tcohen: done
19:26 tcohen         Joubu: you didn't run your magic script?
19:26 wahanui        i guess next meeting is https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Next_IRC_meetings
19:26 tcohen         next meeting?
19:25 kidzen         do i have to go to marc structure ?
19:25 tcohen         hi
19:22 cait           there you can change which fields appear, how they are labelled, etc.
19:22 cait           administration > bibliographic marc frameworks
19:21 cait           the configuration of the frameworks is done in
19:21 kidzen         i see it in the default template
19:21 kidzen         how do i make it visible?
19:19 cait           it's probably just hidden
19:19 cait           you can make it visible
19:17 kidzen         why does 001 Control Number does not appear in Books template
19:17 oleonard       Bye #koha
19:16 Tin_           No results found No results match your search for 'kw,wrdl: dig'.
19:14 Joubu          Tin_: https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Troubleshooting_Zebra
19:13 caroline       Tin_: what is the problem exactly?
19:12 Tin_           Hello is there anyone out there that can help me with not being able to search?
19:11 kidzen         that's fine :)
19:10 Shane-S        kidzen: That software looks nice...wish I had the capacity to justify that...but at most I have 300 labels to print.
19:09 Tin_           Hey LeeJ  Do you have any other suggestions regarind of no search issue?
19:07 cait           :)
19:05 Shane-S        I am just tired of exporting, designing, printing...then adding a single person...manually typing this code to print the same style barcode label, if Koha can do it, might as well just save some steps
19:04 Shane-S        I normally use mail merge on Word and a Free 3 of 9 font and print on sheets of 5160s
19:03 kidzen         incase if you are to print in bulk with a barcode printer
19:01 kidzen         Shance-S: Have you tried barcode & rfid software like "seagull bartender" software?
18:59 Shane-S        Its not THAT big of a deal...I am just too type A and can't let it go :P
18:59 Shane-S        I am tired of making them in Word...since I get the data out of Koha figure why not make Koha do it
18:58 Joubu          to*
18:58 Joubu          You could try asking the list
18:58 Joubu          I have no idea. Luckily I have never played with label layouts ;)
18:57 Shane-S        if I put the text left margin back, my text get cut off
18:56 Shane-S        I have another question with the labels, so I center the text and if I removed the text left margin all my text displays...but then the barcode moves to the left...so the text looks off center relative to the Code 39 barcode...any way to fix that?
18:56 Shane-S        Joubu: That works when shown in the broswer but the code comes out in the PDF.
18:47 Joubu          Shane-S: &bsol;
18:22 Shane-S        nothing I can think of works...ohh well...
18:12 Shane-S        ill try stuff until I find one :)
18:12 Shane-S        nope
18:10 Shane-S        like '','' (double singels)
18:10 Shane-S        maybe I can double single quote it...let me try that
18:09 cait           :(
18:09 cait           sorry, have to pass :
18:09 Shane-S        I can put a period in, I just figure someone knew an escape trick other then \
18:09 cait           hmm
18:09 Shane-S        says see online help...which is where I learned to do 'String'
18:07 cait           i am not sure, does the help say something? if you are on the page itself it has some hints i think
18:07 cait           html probably won't work as it's converted to pdf
18:05 Shane-S        I am making a label layout using strings. 'Property of Library Foo','100 South Street, City, State ZIP'. However the commas trigger fields, I tried escaping with \, is there another way to escape them in the string so they are literal characters or should I use an HTML code?
17:55 LeeJ           enjoy! ^_^
17:55 LeeJ           Freddy_Enrique: I'm glad it works :)
17:55 LeeJ           Freddy_Enrique: yay!
17:52 Freddy_Enrique LeeJ++
17:52 Freddy_Enrique ?
17:52 wahanui        But it also eats babies.
17:52 Freddy_Enrique it works!
17:52 Freddy_Enrique damn typo
17:52 Freddy_Enrique it work!!!!
17:43 LeeJ           I only thought of it because we ran into the same problem here when we first migrated
17:42 LeeJ           okay
17:42 Freddy_Enrique still playing with the options
17:42 LeeJ           Freddy_Enrique: so did that solve your issue?
17:42 LeeJ           *I love having the occasional clever moment
17:42 LeeJ           caroline: ing the occasional clever moment ;)
17:41 caroline       LeeJ ftw! LeeJ++
17:40 Freddy_Enrique damn, so many typos
17:40 * LeeJ         knew he should have taken Spanish in school
17:40 Freddy_Enrique it seems this is the probem...
17:40 Freddy_Enrique them*
17:40 Freddy_Enrique both of the say... depository library
17:40 caroline       Hi Freddy_Enrique!
17:39 Freddy_Enrique Hi Caroline!
17:39 Freddy_Enrique uhm... https://snag.gy/8vxPwr.jpg
17:39 LeeJ           caroline: good to know!
17:39 caroline       (just fyi)
17:39 caroline       Generally, the syspref names aren't translated
17:38 LeeJ           I don't know what the translation would be (if any)..
17:38 LeeJ           Freddy_Enrique: what is the value of your sys pref OpacLocationBranchToDisplay?
17:36 Freddy_Enrique sure
17:36 Freddy_Enrique it using the value of the main branch with the current location ob the book
17:36 LeeJ           one sec
17:36 LeeJ           hmmm
17:35 Freddy_Enrique https://snag.gy/diIpEG.jpg
17:35 LeeJ           hi Freddy_Enrique
17:34 Freddy_Enrique the opac on the other hand...
17:34 Freddy_Enrique but that is the intranet
17:34 Freddy_Enrique this is how it should look: https://snag.gy/ay2UAQ.jpg
17:33 Freddy_Enrique one of my books is going to be on the other branch but, on the opac appears that branch with the LOC value of the main branch
17:30 Freddy_Enrique I have two branches and one of them have some values on LOC
17:30 Freddy_Enrique ive got a problem, hope you can help me
17:29 Freddy_Enrique Good afternoon guys :)
17:18 LeeJ           caroline: Thanks! :D I try
17:18 caroline       good idea! I will try to find other examples where that might be useful
17:17 LeeJ           I think that would be a nifty feature
17:17 caroline       I will see with my colleagues if they can tweak it, if not, I'll just add 59X fields for age group and reading level
17:17 LeeJ           maybe a thought for a bug report! "Enable the ability to pair MARC indicators with authorized values"
17:16 LeeJ           if you could have a choice of which auth value list to use it probably could have worked
17:16 caroline       yeah, ok that's what I figured.
17:16 LeeJ           caroline: so it appears that the auth value is a no-go currently...it seems there's a limitation to one auth value listing only (even if repeated)
17:13 LeeJ           caroline: just confirmed with our cataloger..trying to see if there's something now but it appears you should be able to specify the intent of the field with the indicator
17:05 LeeJ           I think you might be able to make it work..give me a sec
17:05 LeeJ           the subfields!~
17:05 LeeJ           caroline: https://www.oclc.org/bibformats/en/5xx/521.html
17:04 caroline       but I wanted to provide them with pull down for age group and realing level
17:04 LeeJ           WAIT A SEC
17:04 caroline       521 is repeatable, so that's good
17:04 LeeJ           OH OH OH
17:04 caroline       yeah, that's what I figured
17:03 LeeJ           caroline: so basically three 521 fields with different values?
17:03 caroline       I'm trying to map their fields to MARC fields
17:02 caroline       They're not currently using MARC
17:02 caroline       Yeah, but it's in the same record. For example, they have a book called "Toto the magic puppy" (for example, I just made that up), in the book, it's written for 6 years and older, so they would write that in a field, in another field they would write 5-8 (age group) and another field 1 (reading level)
17:01 cait           I guess it all goes in the same subfield?
17:00 cait           maybe with different frameworks
17:00 cait           but you can only have either free text or a pull down for a field
17:00 cait           not sure i get you
17:00 caroline       I have to create 59X fields for age group and reading level?
16:59 caroline       That's not possible, right?
16:59 caroline       MARC Framework question: is there a way with Koha to force 2 fields with the same number but different constraints? I have a collection where they put in the target audience as written in the book, the age group (4 values possible) and the reading level (3 possible values). Those all go in 521, but I wanted to add authorised values for the age group and reading level but leave the target audience as free text
16:53 LeeJ           cait: I think my fix this time around is more elegant instead of my attempted hack job last time :')
16:49 huginn         Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17153 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, ldjamison, Needs Signoff , Logging in during a search navigates to account page instead of back to search results
16:49 LeeJ           it's finally ready for Signoff! Bug 17153
16:49 LeeJ           yayyy
16:35 LeeJ           [off] caroline: I have the same problem now..one of our librarians has been here over 40 years and it's still a daily fight for sure
16:34 caroline       LeeJ: Well, you can't be afraid of computers if you're going to be a librarian, that's for sure (I had older colleagues before and change was hard on them)
16:32 LeeJ           caroline: I've been told it really doesn't hurt coming from a tech background either :)
16:31 LeeJ           caroline: awh shucks
16:19 caroline       I'm sure you know more than some of us in some areas!
16:18 LeeJ           I figured it can't hurt :)
16:18 caroline       go LeeJ!
16:18 * LeeJ         is currently planning to take library school after he finishes his current degree and the paired masters program
16:17 caroline       go library school!
16:17 LeeJ           which kind of hurts because I wouldn't have to pay to take it
16:17 cait           i switched to library school... no regrets :)
16:16 caroline       lolz I can relate! I'm sure if I went back to japan it would come back quickly
16:16 LeeJ           our sister university across town offers Japanese..I just don't have the free time nor the brain capacity to spare :P
16:16 cait           and 3 months later i couldn't read my ownhomework :(
16:16 cait           i feel you... studied it for a year at uni
16:15 caroline       I don't speak it anymore though, it's been 10+ years
16:15 LeeJ           shh wahanui I wasn't talking to you
16:14 wahanui        LeeJ: Vendor no longer supports the product
16:14 LeeJ           well excuseeeeee me :P
16:14 LeeJ           :O
16:14 caroline       I know, I took 3 years of japanese in uni ;)
16:13 LeeJ           (Japanese for thank you)
16:13 LeeJ           :)
16:13 LeeJ           caroline: well tell your git sensi I said arigatogozaimashita
16:13 * caroline     blushes
16:12 cait           i know LeeJ likes the numbers even :)
16:12 cait           caroline++ caroline++ caroline++ caroline++ caroline++
16:12 huginn         cait: Karma for "caroline" has been increased 25 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 25.
16:12 cait           @karma caroline
16:12 caroline       It has been reviewed by my git sensei
16:11 LeeJ           caroline: THAT LOOKS AMAZING
16:11 caroline       LOL!
16:11 LeeJ           caroline++ caroline++ caroline++ caroline++ caroline++ caroline++ caroline++ caroline++ caroline++ caroline++ caroline++ caroline++
16:11 * caroline     is now a 'yellow' belt in git
16:10 caroline       LeeJ: https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Editing_the_Koha_Manual#Advanced_-_Editing_from_local_repository
16:10 cait           shouldn't you get an emai labout it? :)
16:10 LeeJ           oleonard: those sneaky rascals
16:05 oleonard       Hey everyone if you just stealthily add me as a cc on a bug I won't know it unless you tell me
16:05 LeeJ           sweet
16:05 cait           but yep
16:05 cait           c 2 is for 2 commits
16:05 LeeJ           cait: running QA checks uses "qa -c 2 -v 2" right?
16:04 LeeJ           cait: then after looking at that one I need to re-examine my closed stacks configuration now that I have a new perspective on everything
16:03 cait           thx!
16:03 cait           can't ask for more :)
16:03 LeeJ           cait: my bug turned out to be an easy fix because it only affected one page :)
16:03 LeeJ           cait: can't make any promises but I'll take a look :)
16:03 cait           possibly master as well
16:03 cait           it at least happens in 17.11 too
16:02 huginn         Bug 19799: minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , [16.11] Changing language on OPAC redirects back to homepage
16:02 cait           https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19799
16:02 * LeeJ         just remembered he made a "Koha dev" file folder with directions
16:00 LeeJ           righttt
15:59 cait           git bz attach -e bugnumber HEAD
15:59 LeeJ           mhm
15:59 cait           are you using git bz?
15:59 cait           trying to locate the bug right now
15:59 LeeJ           I just have to remember the patch upload process :)
15:59 LeeJ           cait: since I figured out this redirection issue I can take a look at that if you point me in the right direction :)
15:58 LeeJ           cait: not so much :) only to French when looking at translation things
15:58 cait           probably you don't switch away from english very often :)
15:58 cait           broke osmetime around16.11
15:58 LeeJ           cait: never knew that was a thing
15:58 cait           noone has dared to look at it so far, but it's majorly annoying and a regression
15:58 LeeJ           cait: hm?
15:57 cait           we really need to fix the bug where you get thrown to the start page when changing language :(
15:57 huginn         Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20651 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, andrew.isherwood, Signed Off , Improve display of "Toggle full supplier metadata"
15:57 cait           hm that reminds me
15:57 oleonard       Joubu: I got your msg about Bug 20651 but I don't know how to test ILL stuff
15:56 LeeJ           I fixed it using a completely different approach than what was tried back then and it's so beautiful :')
15:55 huginn         Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17153 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, ldjamison, Patch doesn't apply , Logging in during a search navigates to account page instead of back to search results
15:55 LeeJ           cait: remember my Bug 17153?
15:54 cait           congrats :)
15:54 * LeeJ         is crying tears of joy for fixing a bug correctly after putting it off for 2 years
15:50 Joubu          sudo
15:50 Tin_           when I do a sudo koha-zebra --status gps-library it does show it's running
15:49 Tin_           administrator@GPS-Library:~$ koha-zebra --status gps-library Invalid --pidfiles argument: '/var/run/koha/gps-library/' (Directory is not writable) usage: daemon [options] [--] [cmd arg...] options:       -h, --help              - Print a help message then exit       -V, --version           - Print a version message then exit       -v, --verbose[=level]   - Set the verbosity level       -d, --debug[=level]     - Set the debugging level
15:48 Tin_           nothing
15:47 LeeJ           Tin_: try running sudo koha-zebra --start or --restart
15:45 LeeJ           Tin_ ahh
15:44 Tin_           when i type in koha-zebra --status gps-library  is shows zebra is not running for gps-library
15:43 LeeJ           Joubu or kidclamp around?
15:41 oleonard       I only remember the package commands: https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Commands_provided_by_the_Debian_packages#Zebra-related
15:41 Tin_           I've rebooted that VM a few times
15:40 LeeJ           oleonard: do you remember the restart cmd for zebra? can't recall it
15:40 LeeJ           so it appears to be running...it possibly just needs a restart
15:39 Tin_           administrator@GPS-Library:~$ ps aux | grep zebra gps-lib+   956  0.0  0.0  20128   188 ?        S    06:08   0:00 daemon --name=gps-library-koha-zebra --pidfiles=/var/run/koha/gps-library/ --errlog=/var/log/koha/gps-library/zebra-error.log --output=/var/log/koha/gps-library/zebra-output.log --verbose=1 --respawn --delay=30 --user=gps-library-koha.gps-library-koha -- /usr/bin/zebrasrv -v none,fatal,warn -f /etc/koha/sites/gps-library/ko
15:35 Tin_           I click past and it wants to format it
15:34 oleonard       You have to select the channel in order for it to appear here
15:32 LeeJ           if you click Paste it then a link will appear here and we can have a look
15:31 Tin_           just did
15:30 LeeJ           if you can copy that and put it into paste.koha-community.org
15:27 Tin_           ok something appeared on the screen.  What was supose to do?
15:25 LeeJ           my bad
15:25 LeeJ           ps aux | grep zebra
15:25 LeeJ           so just..
15:25 LeeJ           Tin_: whoops...don't include the apostrophe
15:25 oleonard       Makes sense.
15:25 LeeJ           oleonard: FYI..according to perlmonks, a param would be undef if the tag didn't exist in the template...if it exists but has no value it would be an empty string
15:24 Tin_           ok that command brings up a > with a prompt
15:22 LeeJ           Tin_: from terminal try running 'ps aux | grep zebra
15:20 Tin_           Zebra version:  Zebra 2.0.59 (C) 1994-2014, Index Data Zebra is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License, and you are welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under certain conditions. SHA1 ID: c00bfddbf0f3608340d61298acc61dafb167f9b2 Using ICU
15:19 LeeJ           Tin_: under About Koha does it indicate Zebra is running?
15:19 SMay           I just installed the same version and have the same issue. When I reindex zebra and reboot the server, the search features return.
15:19 Tin_           terminal install
15:19 LeeJ           shh wahanui..I wasn't talking to you
15:18 Tin_           no
15:18 wahanui        somebody said package install was easy, if you do it on a supported os
15:18 LeeJ           Tin_: package install?
15:18 Tin_           I just installed ver 17.11
15:17 LeeJ           what version of Koha are you running?
15:17 Tin_           Anything I search for in the catlog always returns.  Say I search cats, No results found No results match your search for 'kw,wrdl: cats'.
15:16 LeeJ           oleonard: hmm..guess it's time for trial and error
15:16 LeeJ           Tin_: what seems to be the trouble?
15:15 oleonard       LeeJ: I don't know
15:15 LeeJ           oleonard: am I correct in thinking if a hidden input field is in a form and there's no value attribute set then in perl it would be considered undef?
15:15 Tin_           Anyone around that can help me with my catalog searching issue?
15:14 oleonard       Yes
15:14 LeeJ           oleonard: around?
14:56 SMay           Interesting...REindexed with the link AND rebooted the Linux server and the search is now working.
14:55 SMay           Will do, thanks.
14:55 oleonard       SMay: Try coming back here at another time when there are more people around to help.
14:54 oleonard       SMay: Don't give up, because your problem is most likely some kind of configuration or procedural problem.
14:53 SMay           Ok, thanks. I tried the reindex from the link and it didn't make a difference. I am rebooting the Linux server and will see if that makes a difference. I will keep digging on the web for a bit longer before washing my hands of it.
14:48 oleonard       All I can think is that the import from "Staged MARC record management" didn't work correctly, but I don't know why that might be.
14:47 SMay           Yes
14:46 oleonard       Did you use the "Staged MARC record management" tool to import the records into the catalog?
14:46 SMay           yes
14:44 oleonard       Did you import those records in the reservoir using the "Stage MARC records for import" tool?
14:43 SMay           When I click on More | Tools then under Catalog select Inventory. I run this with no changes except results to be csv.
14:42 SMay           Is there a way to pull all of hte items in the reservoir into the inventory in one fail swoop versus individually? I have over 4000 items and I do not look forward to bringing them in one at a time.
14:41 oleonard       I don't understand what you mean by "this item appears in the inventory via tools."
14:41 SMay           I am going to try the link you provided and see what happens.
14:41 SMay           I just did another search from within the cataloging module and got 0 results, but it did come back with a biblio in the reservoir, but this item appears in the inventory via tools.
14:40 oleonard       Sorry SMay I don't know what to suggest
14:38 SMay           From the home menu selecting Search the Catalog option below the search field.
14:37 oleonard       Are you doing searches in the catalog module or the cataloging module?
14:36 SMay           I've reindexed and rebuilt Zebra. It will begin working pulling items from our inventory (and items from the net). The next day I do a search for the same item and get no results.
14:35 oleonard       This link shows commands for manually triggering the Zebra indexer: https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Commands_provided_by_the_Debian_packages#koha-rebuild-zebra
14:34 oleonard       Searching is sometimes working?
14:34 oleonard       Failed searches often mean that records haven't been indexed, but my understanding of the packages is that the indexer should automatically work
14:33 SMay           yes
14:33 oleonard       Did you use the package install method?
14:33 SMay           yes
14:32 oleonard       SMay: Did you install Koha yourself?
14:31 SMay           Looking for help with new installation. Point me in the right direction? 2 main issues: searching for titles not always working and importing items.
14:29 LeeJ           hi #koha
14:29 * LeeJ         waves
13:35 huginn         oleonard: Error: I could not find a valid location for: the sun
13:35 oleonard       @wunder the sun
13:28 drojf          too hot to measure
13:27 huginn         drojf: Berlin, Germany ::  :: NoneF/NoneC | Thursday: Partly cloudy. Lows overnight in the upper 60s. Thursday Night: Partly cloudy. Hot. Low 67F. Winds E at 5 to 10 mph.
13:27 drojf          @wunder berlin, germany
13:26 magnuse        overdue messages sent after the loan was returned - anyone else seeing that? (on 17.11.03)
12:45 oleonard       Hi caroline
12:43 caroline       good morning everyone!
12:20 magnuse        someone just "21? i'm aoutta here!"
12:20 magnuse        very sweet
12:18 huginn         oleonard: Athens, OH :: Partly Cloudy :: 71F/22C | Thursday: Partly cloudy with afternoon showers or thunderstorms. High 86F. Winds SW at 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 40%. Thursday Night: Scattered showers and thunderstorms. Low 67F. Winds light and variable. Chance of rain 60%.
12:18 oleonard       @wunder 45701
12:18 oleonard       Short and sweet.
12:17 magnuse        \o/
12:17 huginn         magnuse: Bodo, Norway :: Clear :: 70F/21C | :  :
12:17 magnuse        @wunder bodo, norway
12:16 huginn         Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20844 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Reset a hold when it is missing after allocation
12:16 * oleonard     wonders if Bug 20844 is being sponsored or is simply a wish
12:16 oleonard       Hi cait and josef_moravec
12:15 * cait         waves
11:48 oleonard       Hi #koha
11:33 severine_q     hello #koha !
07:00 huginn         Bug 20836: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, mirko, NEW , debian/control.in cleanup
07:00 huginn         drojf: The operation succeeded.
07:00 drojf          @later tell fridolin see https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20836
06:59 marcelr        hi drojf
06:57 huginn         drojf: The operation succeeded.
06:57 drojf          @later tell fridolin do you use koha-deps and koha-perldeps for biblibre setups? you deploy koha from git, not koha-common packages IIRC?
06:45 drojf          hi marcelr
06:41 marcelr        hi #koha
06:29 huginn         drojf: The operation succeeded.
06:29 drojf          @later tell tcohen no objection to moving the catmandu deps
06:21 drojf          hi #koha