Time  Nick        Message
00:00 * Francesca waves
06:32 reiveune    hello
06:48 fridolin    hi there
06:58 alex_a      bonjour
07:27 gaetan_B    hello
07:30 clrh        hello koha
08:35 * andreashm waves
09:04 ashimema    mornin' koha
09:10 andreashm   hey ashimema
09:10 wahanui     ashimema is on qa now .)
09:27 AndrewIsh   Hey all. Does anyone know if there is a recognised Koha objects way of testing whether an object has a given accessor or whether the schema has a given column. I'm making some changes to one the ILL backends but want to make sure that it doesn't break for users who don't have the ILL core enhancement I'm working on.
09:58 * cait      waves
11:32 oleonard    Hi all
11:46 Dyrcona     identify Kk@78jkl
11:47 Dyrcona     OOps!
11:49 * oleonard  steals Dyrcona's identity
11:53 Dyrcona     heh. I'm trying to remember how to change it. Then, think I'll see about setting up auth with a cert. :)
11:55 Dyrcona     Trouble is, you can't ask for help from NickServ in an IM context, you have to do it from a channel.
12:17 oleonard    Thinking about an update to the preferences interface: https://zivotdesign.com/p/#1/15269050214857
12:29 Dyrcona     meh. Pidgin can't do certfp and there are no readily available plugins.
12:30 Dyrcona     Guess that's something I'll have to work on in my not-so-copious free time. :)
12:34 ashimema    subtle but nice change oleonard
12:40 * LeeJ      waves
12:40 LeeJ        hi #koha
12:44 oleonard    Hi LeeJ
12:44 LeeJ        hiya oleonard :)
12:49 * cait      waves
12:50 cait        oleonard: looks nice
12:50 cait        just a thought
12:50 cait        would it be possible to mark the ones you changed on a page?
12:50 cait        you see when you save, but it might be nice to have them stand out while editing
12:51 oleonard    Yeah that's a good idea
12:58 * LeeJ      waves to cait
12:58 * cait      waves to LeeJ
13:20 LeeJ        cait: working on finishing the new features now :)
13:21 LeeJ        cait: I think for CAS single logout I'm just adding it to the description of the syspref..can't think of anywhere else that would be a better location
13:33 tcohen      morning
13:37 LeeJ        morning tcohen
13:37 LeeJ        #endmeeting
13:37 tcohen      :/
13:37 tcohen      heheh
13:37 LeeJ        :)
13:39 cait        LeeJ: we don't have a CAS chapter yet so that makes sense :) thx!
13:40 LeeJ        tcohen: I'm working on adding the REST api new features to the 18.05 docs...any preference as to how they get formatted? :)
13:40 LeeJ        cait: sure! My goal for 18.11 is to have everything broken up as necessary :)
13:41 LeeJ        cait: didn't we used to have a REST section..? it appears to be gone..
13:42 cait        yes
13:42 cait        tcohen never answered my question on updating it
13:42 cait        it was not about Koha's REST
13:42 LeeJ        ooh
13:42 cait        it was about a Biblibre development way back
13:42 * LeeJ      shakes fist at tcohen
13:42 cait        hehe
13:42 cait        separate program
13:42 LeeJ        ah
13:42 cait        like an extension you could use with Koha, but I don't think that's around stil
13:42 cait        so i rmeoved it
13:43 LeeJ        ugh..so I have to re-add a REST section?
13:43 LeeJ        :D
13:44 LeeJ        or I can just skim from the 17.11 section
13:44 LeeJ        still going to wait for tcohen to reply though ;)
13:45 cait        i might have just left him a later
13:45 cait        LeeJ: it was in web services before
13:45 LeeJ        cait: well I left him a now-er :)
13:45 cait        easy to add back
13:45 tcohen      hey, what about the API
13:46 LeeJ        tcohen: look back from 09:41:47 down
13:46 tcohen      rangi: HAPPY BIRTHDAY!
13:46 LeeJ        tcohen: basically I'm working on the new REST features and cait and I need some direction
13:47 LeeJ        @later tell rangi Happy Birthday!
13:47 huginn      LeeJ: The operation succeeded.
13:48 cait        tcohen: that's what i killed from the manual https://gitlab.com/koha-community-devs-users/kohadocs/commit/c126e5293ebabadb37275cc0706b5f77b279444a#5e034dca71b2080b3b2fa3a67c2e76c50c226e13_63_46
13:48 LeeJ        tcohen: we had a REST section in the 17.11 doc but cait decided to remove it..should I re-add it back in as-is then add the new features? or do you have an idea how to change it?
13:48 cait        no current link and old versions, i think we need to start fresh for Koha's REST
13:49 cait        no ont as is
13:49 cait        it's describing a totally different thing
13:49 cait        the information is wrong
13:49 LeeJ        cait: understood :)
13:49 cait        you can reuse the spot and heading :P
13:52 tcohen      we should stop calling it REST
13:52 tcohen      and name it the API
13:52 LeeJ        tcohen: so Koha API?
13:52 tcohen      ashimema: what do you think?
13:52 cait        i tihnk REST should still appear in descriptions
13:52 cait        it's what people search for
13:53 cait        but not against giving it a 'name'
13:53 Joubu       Koha's REST API
13:53 oleonard    I think we should name it KAPI the HAPI API
13:53 tcohen      ok
13:54 tcohen      hola Joubu
13:54 Joubu       o/
13:54 tcohen      will you be in Buenos Aires next w-e?
13:55 tcohen      I'm planning a family trip to test the car
13:55 Joubu       maybe, not sure yet
13:55 tcohen      ok
13:55 tcohen      I'll keep you informed
13:55 tcohen      we might want to go temaiken
13:55 LeeJ        oleonard: I like it lol
13:57 cait        brb - making late lunch
14:00 tcohen      alex_a: around?
14:00 alex_a      tcohen, yep
14:00 oleonard    khall around?
14:01 * ashimema  reads back
14:01 tcohen      alex_a: have you seen https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Patrons_account_lines_endpoint_RFC
14:02 alex_a      tcohen, any developments since last week?
14:04 huginn      News from kohagit: Revert "Bug 20073: Move Elasticsearch configs to yaml files and improve the default... <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=cff62796ea9fc227c24fec8f8f3f153a715796ef>
14:04 huginn      News from kohagit: Revert "Bug 20073: Remove perlcritic error" <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e1a95094e731f3816ff862fe22c317006f0f73ff>
14:04 huginn      News from kohagit: Bug 20792: (bug 18789 follow-up) Fix patron edit page if TranslateNotices is set <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b2f5371b019b1c3d9b3e926aef2592c3e764ae46>
14:04 ashimema    Is there not a Koha API's chapter in the manual then?
14:04 ashimema    which include /svc, ils-di and others?
14:05 Joubu       LeeJ: FYI 20073 has been reverted and won't be part of 18.05
14:06 tcohen      alex_a: only the RFC
14:06 tcohen      but I made changes to it
14:06 ashimema    hmm.. I was thinking of 'Other API's and Protocols'.. but that's a horrible chapter
14:06 LeeJ        so tcohen: what direction should I go with the API? trying to get as much done as I can today
14:06 LeeJ        ashimema: I'm sure we've had worse names ;)
14:06 LeeJ        thanks Joubu!
14:06 tcohen      I think we should officially add something like https://api.koha-community.org
14:06 ashimema    haha.. I'm sure we have ;)
14:06 tcohen      and publish the spec in there
14:07 tcohen      and add an intro to the docs, and point there
14:07 ashimema    is ils-di not in the manual at all to date.. I can't see it
14:07 ashimema    I agree tcohen
14:07 LeeJ        tcohen: so you're thinking keep it removed from the docs and the docs would just have a link to the URL?
14:07 LeeJ        ashimema: I don't think so..? not familiar with what it is/does to be perfectly honest
14:07 ashimema    I do think there should be mention of it in the manual though.. with a link to a versioned api doc page that allows download of the spec file pertaining to your koha version
14:08 tcohen      the docs should have a description of the REST api
14:08 tcohen      and a link
14:08 ashimema    (or that says where to find it in your own setup)
14:08 ashimema    ah.. ils-di is another api that exists in Koha
14:08 ashimema    https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/APIs_and_protocols_supported_by_Koha#ILS-DI
14:08 LeeJ        tcohen: I'm perfectly fine with that..just give me a link and what description you want and I'll get it right in
14:08 ashimema    self documenting
14:09 ashimema    much like the rest api will be/is?
14:09 tcohen      the problem with that self-documenting approach
14:09 Joubu       LeeJ: new version of Taiga, we can now assign a task to several people!
14:09 tcohen      is that the only way to access that documentation is enabling the service
14:09 LeeJ        Joubu: :D THAT'S AMAZING
14:09 LeeJ        Joubu: I'm still waiting on the day that we get to sort tasks >_>
14:10 ashimema    mm.. that's true.. I hadn't thought about that tcohen
14:10 LeeJ        then seems like a web link might be better tcohen ashimema
14:10 cait        ashimema: there is also a web services chapter and contribs very welcome
14:11 LeeJ        ashimema: yes...VERY welcome ;)
14:11 LeeJ        tcohen ashimema so is this something we are able to get done for the release tomorrow?
14:12 * ashimema  currently has his head deep in aquisitions for a customer but is certainly intending on doing some doc sprints when time permits
14:12 ashimema    does anyone else find the sphinx search a bit lacking
14:12 LeeJ        it's appreciated ashimema :)
14:12 ashimema    searching for ils-di yiedls nothing.. yet going direct to the Web Services section it's plainly there.
14:12 ashimema    very odd
14:13 LeeJ        where are you looking exactly? have a link?
14:14 ashimema    https://koha-community.org/manual/18.05/en/html/systempreferences.html#ils-di
14:15 cait        hm
14:15 cait        maybe it's a problem witht he sphinx version again
14:15 cait        that shoudl work
14:15 LeeJ        I'll take a look in a sec..
14:15 cait        back to cooking
14:18 ashimema    :)
14:25 LeeJ        ashimema: working on a client problem right now..will look at searching issue as soon as I'm done :)
14:29 tcohen      @later tell drojf are the package issues solvable for tomorrow's release?
14:29 huginn      tcohen: The operation succeeded.
14:38 cait        tcohen: i'd email him
14:39 tcohen      Joubu: we should've bundled HTTP::OAI in the Koha source tree
14:40 Joubu       I emailed him this morning
14:40 Joubu       we sh
14:40 Joubu       we s
14:40 Joubu       erk... keyboard issues apparently
14:40 Joubu       [off] we should have dealt with that before ;) and not wait one week before the release
14:41 Joubu       [off] and... "should" is a verb/tense we use a bit too much
14:41 * Joubu     suggests wahanui a new jar for "should"
14:42 Guest3141   Project Koha_Master_D8 build #490: SUCCESS in 33 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D8/490/
14:42 Guest3141   * Jonathan Druart: Bug 20792: (bug 18789 follow-up) Fix patron edit page if
14:42 Guest3141   * Jonathan Druart: Revert "Bug 20073: Remove perlcritic error"
14:42 Guest3141   * Jonathan Druart: Revert "Bug 20073: Move Elasticsearch configs to yaml files and improve
14:42 huginn      Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20792 blocker, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Can't go to patron record with TranslateNotices active
14:42 huginn      Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18789 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, RESOLVED FIXED, Send a Koha::Patron object to the templates
14:42 huginn      Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20073 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, ere.maijala, Signed Off , Move Elasticsearch settings to configuration files
14:42 Joubu       Thanks jenkins
14:43 Joubu       it was not the moment for a random failure :)
14:49 LeeJ        tcohen Joubu what should we do about the API for the release...are we going with adding a new URL to house the API spec and just link to it in the doc?
14:53 tcohen      LeeJ: I've sent an email to Chris (rangi) requesting an api.koha-community.org DNS entry
14:53 tcohen      and will put the current (tiny) spec in there
14:54 LeeJ        tcohen: thankssssss :D
14:54 ashimema    :)
14:54 tcohen      so, we need a small text to put in there
14:54 tcohen      on the docs
14:54 tcohen      I'm not a native speaker, so other please step in
14:54 mveron      Hi again #koha
14:55 LeeJ        tcohen: well since you are one of the few who know the API best, want to write something up and I'll be more than happy to "English-ize" it? :)
14:55 LeeJ        hi mveron long time no see
14:55 mveron      Yes, sorry, I could not take much time for Koha in recent months...
14:56 LeeJ        mveron: well welcome back :)
14:56 tcohen      mveron: nice to see you around!
14:56 mveron      I' d like to upload at least de-CH translations, but I have troubles
14:56 mveron      It says something like X-Pooltle-Path Header missing
14:57 mveron      e.g. "X-Pootle-Path Header fehlt in Datei 'de-CH-staff-prog.po' "
14:57 LeeJ        tcohen: so as far as the REST API bugs I created tasks for I can close them since that will all be included in the api subdomain?
14:57 cait        mveron: did you download them from Pootle?
14:58 mveron      cait: yes, German version, then renamed files, then replace stuff, then upload
14:58 cait        i haven't uploaded a file with the new pootle :(
14:58 Joubu       tcohen: why put the doc on api.k-c.org instead of the wiki?
14:58 tcohen      we still need the introductory paragrpah
14:58 tcohen      because it is used
14:58 cait        hm did you take a look at the beginning of the file where the headers are?
14:58 tcohen      and also, because its an HTML?
14:58 cait        tcohen: were you thinking about one of those prtty automated docs?
14:59 cait        something like perldoc.koha-community.org
14:59 tcohen      yes, I was thinking of swaggerui
14:59 tcohen      until we figure something better
14:59 cait        so we could still have general docs in wiki/manual, but have the endpoints auto-documented
15:00 LeeJ        just let me know what I'm adding to the manual :)
15:01 mveron      Cait: Hmm, what to do... I always did it via download of de-DE, then change stuff, then uplaod as de-CH...
15:01 reiveune    bye
15:01 cait        what do the files read at the top?
15:01 cait        maybe pootle complains because of a mismatch of information
15:01 cait        they might still refer to de-DE or something
15:02 mveron      msgid ""
15:02 mveron      msgstr ""
15:02 mveron      "Project-Id-Version: German Koha Translation\n"
15:02 mveron      "POT-Creation-Date: 2018-05-10 00:42-0300\n"
15:02 mveron      "PO-Revision-Date: 2018-05-21 16:44+0200\n"
15:02 mveron      "Last-Translator: mveron <veron@veron.ch>\n"
15:02 mveron      "Language-Team: \n"
15:02 mveron      "Language: de\n"
15:02 mveron      "MIME-Version: 1.0\n"
15:02 mveron      "Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8\n"
15:02 mveron      "Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit\n"
15:02 mveron      "Plural-Forms: nplurals=2; plural=(n != 1);\n"
15:02 mveron      "X-Generator: Poedit 2.0.7\n"
15:02 mveron      "X-Poedit-SourceCharset: utf-8\n"
15:02 mveron      "X-POOTLE-MTIME: 1526629301.441663\n"
15:02 cait        hm no x-Pootle-path
15:02 mveron      cait: Neither in de-DE...
15:02 cait        you could try emailing bernardo
15:03 cait        https://github.com/translate/pootle/issues/6570
15:03 cait        that is your error
15:03 mveron      Oh, I will have a look...
15:05 cait        no solution ther,e just they telling that the path is neded
15:05 cait        but i have no idea what needs to be put there
15:05 LeeJ        Joubu and/or tcohen am I correct that Bug 20402 would also be documented within the spec (wherever it ends up residing)? or should I add it to the manual somewhere?
15:05 huginn      Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20402 new feature, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Pushed to Master , OAuth2 client credentials grant for REST API
15:06 cait        LeeJ: it would not be in the automated docs i think
15:06 cait        too Koha specific
15:07 LeeJ        cait: then where to put it? :)
15:08 cait        maybe back in web services?
15:19 LeeJ        so I'm trying to correctly word the client credentials grant...someone care to give a laymens synopsis? :)
15:24 tcohen      LeeJ: the OAuth2-related tokens are documented, yes
15:25 tcohen      we would need to explicitly document it in the docs
15:26 LeeJ        tcohen: thanks for clarification :) now I'm just trying to decypher how to describe it since I'm not familiarized with how it interacts with koha yet :)
15:27 tcohen      LeeJ: let me that part of the docs
15:27 tcohen      I'll sketch something
15:27 tcohen      then we ask ashimema to add there
15:27 tcohen      and you polish it
15:27 tcohen      ok?
15:27 tcohen      about REST API and the implemented OAuth2 grants
15:28 tcohen      agreed?
15:33 LeeJ        tcohen: thank you very much :)
15:38 LeeJ        cait: what am I doing wrong for external links? :( I'm trying to use the format...
15:38 LeeJ        `link text<url here>`_.
15:38 LeeJ        but it's not displaying correctly..thoughts?
15:40 LeeJ        nevermind..just realized I'll just use the URL itself
15:42 cait        i did tht in another part
15:42 cait        otherwise i tihnk put a space before <
15:42 cait        maybe
15:42 cait        oh
15:42 cait        and probably something like :ref:?
15:42 cait        not sure
15:52 LeeJ        cait: I'll just keep it consistent with the wiki link in intro.rst :)
16:14 LeeJ        tcohen: fyi..here is a list of bugs that I have tasks created for in taiga for REST...20568, 20402, and any here that start with task # - REST api (didn't want to flood chat with numbers) https://tree.taiga.io/project/ldjamison-kohadocs-1805/us/7
16:14 * ashimema  is happy to take a look.. sorry.. as ever it's uber busy but I will fit this in.
16:15 tcohen      LeeJ: excellent job!
16:21 LeeJ        thank you both ashimema tcohen :)
16:21 LeeJ        I find this kind of organization much easier to manage
16:22 LeeJ        I'll make a new status of 'On Hold' to assign to the rest tasks until either of you tell me to do something with them :)
16:23 tcohen      LeeJ: I see things relating to REST but they are basically descriptions for the release notes?
16:24 tcohen      let me put it in a different way
16:24 tcohen      where do I write that description of the REST API?
16:25 LeeJ        tcohen: I just made a new task :) https://tree.taiga.io/project/ldjamison-kohadocs-1805/task/441
16:26 LeeJ        tcohen: and yeah, I create a separate task for each bug from the release notes
16:27 pastebot    "tcohen" at 172.22.66.9 pasted "testing MARC records can be deserialized" (42 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/56
16:31 tcohen      LeeJ: great, that way you don't miss anything, good thought
16:31 LeeJ        tcohen: thanks! so far we've found it to be extremely efficient
16:32 tcohen      LeeJ: can you add me to the team?
16:32 tcohen      so I can assign to myself
16:32 LeeJ        sure!
16:33 LeeJ        tcohen: done!
16:34 LeeJ        tcohen: it took me a minute because I kept trying to search for you by typing "Th" haha
16:34 tcohen      thx
16:34 tcohen      will work on that after lunch!
16:34 LeeJ        tcohen: thank you! :D
16:34 LeeJ        a friend is visiting me from out of state shortly so after she leaves I'll try to finish as much as I can
16:40 LeeJ        Joubu: how long after tomorrow's release will you wait until you start pushing to master for 18.11? Just curious to know my window before continuing :)
16:48 Joubu       I do not think 18.05 will be released tomorrow, maybe more wednesday. 18.05 will then be branched and kidclamp will start pushing to master whenever he wants. Anyway you can update the manual even when 18.05 is released :)
16:56 LeeJ        Joubu: okay...I just like having timelines and so on :)
17:34 cait        oleonard++
17:34 cait        bgkriegel++
17:39 cait        kidclamp++ :)
17:41 oleonard    cait++
17:41 oleonard    Joubu++
17:41 oleonard    tcohen++
17:41 oleonard    LeeJ++
18:02 cait        :)
18:02 cait        karma party
18:02 wahanui     party has karma of 4
18:02 cait        party++
18:12 LeeJ        karma LeeJ
18:12 wahanui     leej has karma of 77
18:12 LeeJ        :O
18:13 LeeJ        karma cait
18:13 wahanui     cait has karma of 995
18:13 LeeJ        O.O
18:22 cait        *hides*
18:23 cait        LeeJ++
18:31 LeeJ        cait++
18:31 LeeJ        cait++
18:31 LeeJ        cait++
18:31 LeeJ        cait++
18:31 LeeJ        cait++
18:31 LeeJ        karma cait
18:31 wahanui     cait has karma of 1000
18:31 LeeJ        :D
18:31 LeeJ        I like even numbers :)
18:32 * cait      explodes
18:32 cait        LeeJ++ LeeJ++
18:32 cait        karma LeeJ
18:32 wahanui     leej has karma of 79
18:32 cait        LeeJ++
18:32 cait        fixed
18:32 LeeJ        :D
18:59 oleonard    Bye #koha
19:44 LeeJ        is there any list (brief or extensive) of what modules use DataTables for documenting Bug 18791?
19:44 huginn      Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18791 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, RESOLVED FIXED, Add the ability for librarians to easily copy, download or print DataTables based tables in Koha
19:53 LeeJ        @later tell cait I'm creating an epic for 18.11 and starting a missing sections, etc. for it
19:53 huginn      LeeJ: The operation succeeded.
19:53 rangi       morning
19:53 rangi       ill try do the dns stuff shortly
19:54 rangi       LeeJ: thanks :)
19:54 LeeJ        thank you rangi..I've been pestering tcohen all day because I'm trying to get the taiga tasks closed :)
20:06 cait        morning rangi
20:16 rangi       hey cait
20:36 LeeJ        so much clean up for 18.11 >.<
20:37 rangi       for the manual?
20:37 rangi       (doing that dns now)
20:40 LeeJ        rangiL te
20:40 LeeJ        wow..
20:40 LeeJ        rangi: ye
20:40 LeeJ        *yes
20:40 * LeeJ      apprently cannot type
20:41 LeeJ        rangi: the more I go through it the more sections I notice are missing
20:43 rangi       *nod* lots out of date too, I think we need to do a big recruitment drive
20:43 rangi       its way too much for only a few people
20:43 rangi       ok api is a cname to bugs.koha-community.org
20:44 rangi       so i can set up a site there, is it just for static html
20:44 rangi       ?
20:44 alexbuckley alexbuckley, changeme
20:44 rangi       heh
20:46 cait        rangi: tcohen said he was thinking about something earlier, sec
20:46 cait        swaggerui
20:46 LeeJ        rangi: yes..tcohen would be the one to check with since it was his idea :)
20:47 rangi       tcohen: are you about?
20:47 cait        https://github.com/swagger-api/swagger-ui - might be static
20:47 cait        js
20:47 rangi       k ill make a static site for now
20:47 rangi       and he can put the files in
20:49 LeeJ        you're the best rangi :)
20:51 LeeJ        cait rangi I think I'm going to make the executive decision to hold off on adding some of the 18.05 enhancements until we can update/correct/add the necessary sections
20:52 cait        hm?
20:52 cait        can you give an example?
20:52 cait        rangi++ (really the best)
20:52 LeeJ        I've already created an 18.11 epic in Taiga so I'll try to move the necessary user stories/tasks under 18.11
20:52 LeeJ        cait: one sec..
20:53 LeeJ        cait: like this https://tree.taiga.io/project/ldjamison-kohadocs-1805/task/168
20:53 LeeJ        since there's no separate fines section
20:53 LeeJ        which is unnerving..
20:53 LeeJ        I think it's silly to pop the info in somewhere under circ randomly
20:54 cait        huh
20:54 cait        there is nothing for paying fines?
20:54 cait        i think it's in patrons probably
20:54 cait        but the search was behaving odd earlier alrady
20:55 LeeJ        cait: right
20:55 cait        https://koha-community.org/manual/18.05/en/html/patrons.html?highlight=fines#fines
20:55 LeeJ        cait: my thought is for us to make it so the table of contents can display each sub section if that makes sense
20:55 cait        it's here
20:55 LeeJ        like..you can do a find from table of contents and locate Fines
20:56 cait        it would be gigantic
20:56 LeeJ        hm true
20:56 cait        but i wonder if every patron permission needs to be in the toc...
20:56 rangi       http://api.koha-community.org/
20:56 cait        generally the structure still needs work
20:56 cait        maybe another template could work better too
20:56 LeeJ        cait: exactly..which is why I think it's best for us to re-think the layout for 18.11
20:56 LeeJ        that will be the big project
20:57 cait        i kinda hate by now that the search form is at the end of the toc
20:57 cait        it would be nice to have it always on top
20:57 LeeJ        agreed
20:57 rangi       @later tell tcohen you can put the files up for api docs in the same was as uploading for a release except /home/uploads/api instead of /home/uploads/files
20:57 huginn      rangi: The operation succeeded.
20:58 cait        i am ont sure how we can experiment with templates best
20:58 LeeJ        rangi: tcohen is helping me write the API section of the manual
21:03 rangi       hi Francesca and kellym
21:03 kellym      hi
21:03 wahanui     bonjour, kellym
21:03 Francesca   hey
21:04 Francesca   did you have a nice birthday @rangi?
21:05 rangi       LeeJ: cool, its now on https too all ready to have files uploaded
21:05 rangi       Francesca: yes thanks
21:05 LeeJ        rangi: sweet!
21:05 LeeJ        even if it kills me the manual will be corrected by 18.11 ;)
21:06 rangi       yay!!
21:06 cait        LeeJ: not worth losing your life over it
21:07 cait        but i like your dedication :)
21:07 LeeJ        cait: hah
21:07 LeeJ        well I'm out for the night..see you all tomorrow